kickerfox

I know of that engine as well as the VQ30 and VQ35, also good engines. The VQ30 would be easy to find from the Maxima. I have an SR20 sitting in the garage with a set of DET rods and squirters. It was intended to be built to replace the engine in my Sentra but I sold the car. SRS?

Slidin8

If you want a good v6, you have the VQ30DETT, more power than that piece of **** Isuzu engine.

You can get good horsepower and great torque from them. Would be my choice

If you have heaps of money though, why not get the supercharged 3.2 v6 out of the C32 AMG?

kickerfox

I've tried to find more info about the VQ30DETT but it looks like there may be a few versions of it? Please explain why the Isuzu engine is a piece of ****. Or is that opinion based off Isuzu's stigmata? Other then maybe a forged crank, it's hard to tell any differences between it and the VQ30 without more photos. Trust me, when I thought about an Isuzu engine I had my doubts but after seeing photos of the internals and seeing features of the engine, my opinion changed. Unfortunatly it's cast crankshaft has me worried. It's a great engine otherwise.

Money isn't endless.

Here's one pic of a VQ30DETT iron block from this page --> Engine Tech, Building the Nissan VG30DETT part 1

In the second photo, it looks like a 2pc aluminum block. That sump could cause clearance problems. From here --> altimaxima.org.au :: altimas and maximas australia & new zealand • View topic - Nissan Skyline ER34: VQ30DETT

Third photo is the Isuzu bottom end. 6 bolt mains with a main girdle containing the oil rail. You can't tell me that's not strong. There's 24 bolts in total to hold 4 main caps.

Slidin8

lack of aftermarket support and cast crankshaft

just because it looks strong, doesn't necessarily mean it is

kickerfox

I hear ya. I mentioned the crank being a concern but the truck guys are running 10psi non-intercooled on stock internals with the supercharger kits. I'm sure detonation would shatter it like fine china (pun intended). The intake ports are HUGE. The camtrain makes for a nice symmetrical footprint. I dunno what else it is about this engine that intrigues me. At this point I may just have sympathy for it. lol It does have a 75deg V which could help with hood clearance issues and leave me more room for a custom intake. As far as aftermarket support. 1UZ-FE H-beams can be machined to fit it. I think there's a BWM rod that also fits. M10 and M88 whatever those are. 146mm rod. The BE on the BWM is 5mm too small though.

EDIT- Just dawned on me. The 3.5L has a stroked crank and piston pin is 4.0132" higher to compensate. The rods are the same part number. A 3.2L standard crank with a 150mm rod on the 3.5L piston should put the deck height at .0132" lower then normal. That's fine. In that case, Mitsubishi 4G63 uses a 150mm rod. I wonder what the BE and pin size is. How does a short rod vs. longer rod play into engine performance/rpm?

kickerfox

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WDfazp0u4CA

In case anyone wanted to know what this engine sounds like bouncing off the rev limit. Not exactly the smoothest sounding engine on the planet that's for sure.

Slidin8

Unoriginalusername

What engine was in the crossfire srt6? Front engine, rwd, compact and potent. Sounded great to drive and some decent aftermarket options

Dyno. This would be nice
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=iW4EeRX...eature=related

kickerfox

AMG M112 E32 215hp na, 330hp supercharged. (according to wiki)

Slidin8 - I'm suprised to get that reaction out of you. lol Here's another dyno run of that engine doing 606.8kw (813.7hp). There has to be SOME strength to it to be pushing those kinds of numbers even if it is custom built. The smoke at the end was stated to be an injector o-ring failure. I emailed the builder. I'm wondering what internals they used. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c5tE55DAFKo

Slidin8

Your numbers are slightly off,

M112 E32 N/A 224hp 232 ft/lbs

M112 E32 S/C 354hp 332ft/lbs (14.5psi)

on paper, your isuzu engine has more power, but this is a better engine. plus its forged

I drive a C320 often, and it pulls ******* hard and is so smooth

kickerfox

I blame wiki. If the yard is open tomorrow I'll be taking measurements of the two DOHC versions of Isuzu v6. It seems like a somewhat large motor. I'm hoping the 75deg V it has will help bring those fat heads down a bit.

The availability of it is very good. '92-04 in all. '92-97 was the shorter decked block with the big intake ports. I'm sure they would bolt on the tall deck block (same head gaskets) but I'd need a different timing belt. Add the 3.5L stroked crank and hodge-podge some frankenstein engine.

9krpmrx8

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This swap will never happen.

Mawnee

Hmm... I'll take that bet, I'll say it will happen. But its going to look like ***, run like ***(if at all) and never make anywhere near the power he is dreaming of. I see this ending up like the blue carb'd 350 car.

olddragger

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how about the Shortstar LX5? Same Bell housing bolt pattern.
It also sounds really good once it is worked on a little

9krpmrx8

iTrader: (46)

I'll bet you a Z06 for a turbocharged 8

TeamRX8

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some people have nothing better to do than to waste time and money, remember the Starquest/Renesis clusterf-ck? ... https://www.rx8club.com/se-sale-want...things-238222/

kickerfox

This is how my budjet turbo mx-5 turned out. Nothing was part of a kit. It's all hand made except for the turbo manifold. Note the Toyota coil-over-plugs. This was the first Miata to have that conversion done (I developed it) and it ran sequential ign with per-cylinder trims. FMIC was from an EVO. Even the turbo itself was a Saab 900 T3 turbine with an IH T4 compressor from the truck stop. It ran speed density using an '89 GM MAP sensor. A good eye will see it. (rightside firewall). Clutch was an MX-6 disk under a Greddy PP (more contact area then MX-5).

I don't have problems getting things done and getting them done cheap and reliable as well. That MX-5 had 162k on it before I boosted it. It was my first turbo build and my first time using standalone management and ran my own DIY street tune. I ran 15psi on that old engine and never blew it up over 4 years. I must have SOME ability here, no?

9krpmrx8

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That's a nice setup. How did you keep water out of the air filter?

kickerfox

I never had a problem with it getting wet. I didn't plan my drives during storms but I've been caught in the rain many times. FYI that dropped my intake temps by a great amount. Maybe 10~20c? It's been awhile but it was a huge improvement.

Unoriginalusername

Best quote ever (if your mind is impure)

9krpmrx8

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, cool, looks like it would get wet but if not then that is a good spot for the filter.

olddragger

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Nice and neat--great job implementing the Toyota coils.
Just a note--. The windshield is fragile to firewall pressure/movement!

kickerfox

I didn't get to the yards today but I had a chance to call and verify that they did have the engine.

Pics of a supercharged Isuzu 3.5L v6 turning a huge prop. Rated at 350hp (9.1:1cr 3.5L). Someone has faith in that engine. Complete engine (dry) including reduction and supercharger = 352.74lb(160kg). Prop reduction weight = 66.14lb (30KG). Difference = 286.6lb(130kg). So Isuzu 3.5L v6 engine+SC=286.6lb for 350hp. Not too bad. I will assume that's with the alternator and starter to be sold as a complete engine for aircraft use. Anyone here flying customs who can verify?

bse50

An airplane engine has to turn at constant rpm, they don't care about the powerband at all...
A car on the other hand...

9krpmrx8

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I am sure as hell not getting in a plane powered by an Isuzu engine. Or one powered by a rotary for that matter,