Frankenstein Fun Thread Let it all Rip!
12-14-2014, 09:07 AM
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Frankenstein Fun Thread Let it all Rip!
Since we all seem to love "bashing and crashing" and tend to get involved in peoples BUILD THREADS doing it.....
LETS DO IT HERE
Keep it within the rules of Etiquette...no personal attacks....etc...
I'll start out
Dyno Queen ***** REW Turbo builds are still low powered crap compared to Turbo 1200whp 2JZ Supras and Twin Turbo Viper builds
LETS DO IT HERE
Keep it within the rules of Etiquette...no personal attacks....etc...
I'll start out
Dyno Queen ***** REW Turbo builds are still low powered crap compared to Turbo 1200whp 2JZ Supras and Twin Turbo Viper builds
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12-15-2014, 06:52 PM
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Then u can't love rotors very much then hey.
I can't believe how many peeps be buying a beautiful handling car and fking it with a piston!!
Turbo 13b is the best option, or if u want REAL *****, a 3-4rotor. Simple. Surprises me how many piston conversions are on this forum/ sacrilege to do that to a mazda rx8.
I can't believe how many peeps be buying a beautiful handling car and fking it with a piston!!
Turbo 13b is the best option, or if u want REAL *****, a 3-4rotor. Simple. Surprises me how many piston conversions are on this forum/ sacrilege to do that to a mazda rx8.
12-15-2014, 09:53 PM
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too bad this forum isn't exactly a safe haven for shenanigans... I love my turbo renny. especially after this past weekend. The only concern i have is with longevity. I figure I'll go a round with a fresh engine before calling it quits to go n/a 20b. I'm just not looking forward to spending that much money 
12-15-2014, 10:43 PM
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Runs a 12.7 on drag radials and thinks he has a fast car. Real Major horsepower? Time to come back to Earth fella, bone stock Camaros have 100 HP+ on you and run low 12's. Quick yes, fast no. Let's not get carried away.
12-16-2014, 08:05 AM
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Man the butt hurt is strong with you!
Your love for the renesis has blinded you from reality.
Yep, my car is quick, NEVER said it was fast.
Simple fact is if you wanna stay rotary and want real major horsepower you go REW.
But you can believe what ever you want.
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12-16-2014, 09:10 AM
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I'm just saying....why don't you two line em up!
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12-16-2014, 09:45 AM
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Good try,
Man the butt hurt is strong with you!
Your love for the renesis has blinded you from reality.
Yep, my car is quick, NEVER said it was fast.
Simple fact is if you wanna stay rotary and want real major horsepower you go REW.
But you can believe what ever you want.
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Man the butt hurt is strong with you!
Your love for the renesis has blinded you from reality.
Yep, my car is quick, NEVER said it was fast.
Simple fact is if you wanna stay rotary and want real major horsepower you go REW.
But you can believe what ever you want.
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You said, "Real Major Horsepower" not me. If you think 400-450WHP is "Real major Horsepower" then you live in lala land. And if anything it is you who are blind, I am well aware of what the Renny can and can't do. And I am aware of what the REW can and can't do. I understand the swap, it makes sense. But getting on that high horse as if the REW swap cars are all beasts is just silly. If I wanted a dyno queen I would own one.
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12-16-2014, 12:06 PM
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You said, "Real Major Horsepower" not me. If you think 400-450WHP is "Real major Horsepower" then you live in lala land. And if anything it is you who are blind, I am well aware of what the Renny can and can't do. And I am aware of what the REW can and can't do. I understand the swap, it makes sense. But getting on that high horse as if the REW swap cars are all beasts is just silly. If I wanted a dyno queen I would own one.
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12-16-2014, 04:03 PM
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I agree with scott except I still think the renesis is capable of making 400-450whp. I think it just takes the right combination. What is it? I haven't quite figured it out yet.
I'm still sitting over here thinking the price of the REW swap might not be warranted for those who don't go over 500whp or those who don't track their cars. That's territory that I haven't heard of on the renesis. The REW has so much more time on the market and the R&D phase is pretty much over. There are multiple formulas on the table for big power on the REW. Just choose one
I'm still sitting over here thinking the price of the REW swap might not be warranted for those who don't go over 500whp or those who don't track their cars. That's territory that I haven't heard of on the renesis. The REW has so much more time on the market and the R&D phase is pretty much over. There are multiple formulas on the table for big power on the REW. Just choose one
12-16-2014, 04:25 PM
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I moved the deleted posts from the other thread into this one. It took some jumbling to get Dannobre's post to the top to introduce the thread, but everything is intact 
Have fun!
Have fun!
12-16-2014, 05:31 PM
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Power potential means dick if you can't put it to the ground. AKA Dyno queens. 400WHp is plenty for most and an REW can easily attain that. But Major HP? Not even close. More reliable though? Maybe, but that depends on a lot of things being done right and it was designed to be boosted so why people are surprised when a high compression Renesis engine doesn't love boost is something I will never understand. But an REW making Major HP? Nope. Show me an all around fast REW swapped street RX-8 and I will have a different view. But so far I have seen little in that aspect and was expecting more honestly from the few I have seen. Great swaps and I have seen some shops doing great work but I have also driven some quick Renny well built powered cars too. But all that matters is if the owner feels it was worth the time and effort. In most peoples case it is more about the fun of the build and I can appreciate that, I have researched and considered the swap and others myself.
Saying the Renesis sucks is just ignorance, the Renesis is a great engine and has yet to reach it's potential. Sure it has it's faults, every engine does and it was never meant to be boosted. The only FD owner I have ever know who has not rebuilt their engine is a new FD owner. Passing the REW off as reliable is laughable.
Personally I am excited to see the S2 guys that getting boosted as well as people trying things with the S1 engine. I just think it takes the right recipe. Most Renesis FI builds are not well done honestly, at least not the majority of the ones I have seen in person. And the fact that people will spend 10k+ on going FI and then bitch out on spending cash to get a good solid tuner working on their car will always amaze me. But that will change I think as they become cheaper to mod.
We shall see what 1/4 mile times us locals with our sucky Renesis post this season. But plenty of turbo Renny's have hit close to the 13.0 mark so I think 12.7's in the 1/4 without drag radials is easily attainable in a turbo Renny and probably on a much smaller turbo with much less boost.
Saying the Renesis sucks is just ignorance, the Renesis is a great engine and has yet to reach it's potential. Sure it has it's faults, every engine does and it was never meant to be boosted. The only FD owner I have ever know who has not rebuilt their engine is a new FD owner. Passing the REW off as reliable is laughable.
Personally I am excited to see the S2 guys that getting boosted as well as people trying things with the S1 engine. I just think it takes the right recipe. Most Renesis FI builds are not well done honestly, at least not the majority of the ones I have seen in person. And the fact that people will spend 10k+ on going FI and then bitch out on spending cash to get a good solid tuner working on their car will always amaze me. But that will change I think as they become cheaper to mod.
We shall see what 1/4 mile times us locals with our sucky Renesis post this season. But plenty of turbo Renny's have hit close to the 13.0 mark so I think 12.7's in the 1/4 without drag radials is easily attainable in a turbo Renny and probably on a much smaller turbo with much less boost.
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12-16-2014, 05:51 PM
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Sorry did you say an REW can't make major horsepower? Is 600+ not enough? There are nice street FD's making that kind of power. And there are drag cars making 1000+ so I'm not really sure where that's coming from.
Who said the REW was reliable? All that's been said is that it's MORE reliable than a Renesis when you start making power.
I think you love the Renesis too much to realize that there's not going to be some magic breakthrough that allows them to reach the same potential as an REW.
Who said the REW was reliable? All that's been said is that it's MORE reliable than a Renesis when you start making power.
I think you love the Renesis too much to realize that there's not going to be some magic breakthrough that allows them to reach the same potential as an REW.
12-16-2014, 05:58 PM
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Ill hop in the ring. Rotaries have no business in street cars. Yes their specific output cannt be beat but they are the automotive equivalent to a firecracker. Bang!!!! Over. Anyway the rx8 is a terrific chassis and i love how the rotary guys have given the RX8 such a wimpy reputation that a real motoris all thats needed to turn some heads and break some hearts.
12-16-2014, 06:05 PM
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Actually, I disagree completely.
I am choosing a 2.0L piston engine for my track car and a Renesis for my street car. The piston engine can be easily tuned to meet classing power limits, the Renesis can not, and for sedate highway cruising, the Renesis is far more enjoyable with much less stuff to go wrong. I'm always in a panic that my MSM's engine is failing, and I was never concerned in the least about the Renesis in my RX-8. The Renesis was by far the more reliable engine for me.
Even if you go to big power street cars, frankly, they aren't enjoyable enough. I'm sitting around 9.5:1 p/w on my MSM and not only do I rarely find a reason to use full throttle, any enjoyment of using it is very short lived and highly illegal. There is more stress than enjoyment to using a fast street car, and if you aren't using it, why bother?
I am choosing a 2.0L piston engine for my track car and a Renesis for my street car. The piston engine can be easily tuned to meet classing power limits, the Renesis can not, and for sedate highway cruising, the Renesis is far more enjoyable with much less stuff to go wrong. I'm always in a panic that my MSM's engine is failing, and I was never concerned in the least about the Renesis in my RX-8. The Renesis was by far the more reliable engine for me.
Even if you go to big power street cars, frankly, they aren't enjoyable enough. I'm sitting around 9.5:1 p/w on my MSM and not only do I rarely find a reason to use full throttle, any enjoyment of using it is very short lived and highly illegal. There is more stress than enjoyment to using a fast street car, and if you aren't using it, why bother?
12-16-2014, 06:17 PM
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Actually, I disagree completely.
I am choosing a 2.0L piston engine for my track car and a Renesis for my street car. The piston engine can be easily tuned to meet classing power limits, the Renesis can not, and for sedate highway cruising, the Renesis is far more enjoyable with much less stuff to go wrong. I'm always in a panic that my MSM's engine is failing, and I was never concerned in the least about the Renesis in my RX-8. The Renesis was by far the more reliable engine for me.
Even if you go to big power street cars, frankly, they aren't enjoyable enough. I'm sitting around 9.5:1 p/w on my MSM and not only do I rarely find a reason to use full throttle, any enjoyment of using it is very short lived and highly illegal. There is more stress than enjoyment to using a fast street car, and if you aren't using it, why bother?
I am choosing a 2.0L piston engine for my track car and a Renesis for my street car. The piston engine can be easily tuned to meet classing power limits, the Renesis can not, and for sedate highway cruising, the Renesis is far more enjoyable with much less stuff to go wrong. I'm always in a panic that my MSM's engine is failing, and I was never concerned in the least about the Renesis in my RX-8. The Renesis was by far the more reliable engine for me.
Even if you go to big power street cars, frankly, they aren't enjoyable enough. I'm sitting around 9.5:1 p/w on my MSM and not only do I rarely find a reason to use full throttle, any enjoyment of using it is very short lived and highly illegal. There is more stress than enjoyment to using a fast street car, and if you aren't using it, why bother?
Maybe it's because a track car gets beat on constantly is why you're more worried? Although the Renesis has less things to go wrong, the probability of them going wrong vs. most other engines is much higher. There's no denying that.