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Old 11-16-2016, 07:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Charles R. Hill
I would check the ignition system by attaching an inductive timing light to each spark plug wire while the engine is running and observing the nature of the strobe light at idle, at 4K RPMs, and while revving to redline. In all cases the strobe should flash brightly and steadily. This test works on OEM and aftermarket coils and only conclusively demonstrates there to possibly be a problem with the coils, the wires, the harness, the spark plugs, or the PCM and each potential must be subsequently further tested/verified.
Ok thank you. I will definitely try it
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Popping in the exhaust would be extra fuel, so possibly ignition failure. Not saying it's not the fuel pump, but a fuel pump problem would not result in extra fuel.
It was the pump.
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Originally Posted by 9krpmrx8
Okay, when you say you had the cat checked, how exactly was it checked?
They cut it open checked it and welded it back
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They cut it open checked it and welded it back

What? Are you kidding me? That's not how to test a cat.....
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That is strange.
Maybe they cut the pipe to look into it?
If they cut it open, I would think that would ruin it.
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Odd. I've got popping but no codes. As far as ignition goes, BHR koolaid. Not to detract from the post. But I should say my popping is between shifts? Or between rapid acceleration and then letting off the gas. Or it might be this giant *** exhaust I've got on here.
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Originally Posted by CelestialGryphon
Odd. I've got popping but no codes. As far as ignition goes, BHR koolaid. Not to detract from the post. But I should say my popping is between shifts? Or between rapid acceleration and then letting off the gas. Or it might be this giant *** exhaust I've got on here.
I think you're ok.
My popping was while trying to give it gas, not letting off.
You're probably shooting flame.
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And yes, we should stop hijacking OP's thread.
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Originally Posted by 9krpmrx8
What? Are you kidding me? That's not how to test a cat.....
They cut the pipe and looked into it. Then ran tests to make sure it was flowing right
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That is not how you do a cat efficiency test and a much harder way of "testing" a cat. But this kind if thing is why no one touches my car but me.

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I'll look into it Charles, sorry for threadjacking. As so far, we used the gaskets we got from you and the ones we got from HKS.
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(Not gonna threadjack!) OP, anything new to report? I'm still in shock over the "Cut it open" aspect of this.
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Just changed coils, wires, plugs

Originally Posted by BigCajun
Do you have the actual codes?
I've been on this forum nearly 4 years,
I've read about problems nearly every day since then, and I don't think I've ever heard of a recurring CEL that was a ghost in the machine.
Your's would be the first.

If your coils, wires, and plugs have not been changed in 30k miles, then it should be done.
If you have had CELs popping up for an extended time, and it is misfires, your cat could be damaged.

The ignition components can be replaced, but if the cat is damaged, it can cause misfires as a result.
It should be dropped and visually inspected.

Misfires kill cats, bad cats kill engines.

In your first post you said you value our feedback, but you insist your mechanic is right.
If we're right, changing the ignition will cost a couple hundred bucks, and maybe if your cat isn't already bad, that will solve your problem.

If your mechanic is wrong, it'll cost you a couple of thousand at best.

Your call.
so I just got my coils, wires, and plugs changed and it is still reading a misfire. Cat is fine. So idk what the problem is
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Originally Posted by Charles R. Hill
I would check the ignition system by attaching an inductive timing light to each spark plug wire while the engine is running and observing the nature of the strobe light at idle, at 4K RPMs, and while revving to redline. In all cases the strobe should flash brightly and steadily. This test works on OEM and aftermarket coils and only conclusively demonstrates there to possibly be a problem with the coils, the wires, the harness, the spark plugs, or the PCM and each potential must be subsequently further tested/verified.
I just got new plugs, wires, and coils and nothing has changed. Its still reading a misfire code.
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So tell me again why you think the cat "is fine"? Until you/they actually diagnose the problem, they are just diagnosing by parts replacement. I'd find a competent mechanic.
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Still have not found out what codes are indicating misfires.
This is an important piece of information.
"It's still misfiring" is insufficient.
Come back with a code and quit wasting everyone's time.



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