TheTick

9-k Rever

If you could bring yours in and complain about the bad mileage also it would help to validate our case with more people on board. They have been really nice to me the whole time a cap. They so far have fixed or at least looked into any issues that I have. I also need to tell them on monday when I bring it in that it pulls to the right when I brake. I noticed that if in mid brake I turn off the DSC it stops pulling. I don't want to get rid of my 8 and if I had to lemon law it I would just get another one Any of you know where I can find info on the VA lemon law so I know what to document exactly?

Thanks

9-K Rever

Tick,

No problem. I will make an appointment on Monday. I will try to get in in on the 23rd cuz I am takeing off from work starting from then and I will have the free time.

Per the VA lemon law, you have to take the dealer for the same issure 3 times, and they have to been given ample oppurtunity to fix it. So, if its random issues the dealer has the oppurtunity to fix them, if they persist then you can file a claim for the lemmon law. My friend is going through this with Mitsubishi for his Evolution 8. Mitsubishi denied his claim though.

Here is a link to an artical that might help.

http://library.lp.findlaw.com/articl...sumerlaw_1_101

9-K Rever

Did you take your car in?? Anyword? I have been swamped at work and I haven't had time to take mine in.

But, I have to say besides the gas issue my 8 has been issue free. My car doesn't even eat that much oil anymore since the last change. Its actuly scarey..I was used to it sucking down oil..but since CAP MAZ put 5W-30 in it the seals seam to hold that better than the 5W-20.

9-K Rever

TheTick

I brought it in but no word on the mileage. The mechanic said he has to take the transmission out when he fixes my clutch. I guess to check for damage. I wont get it back until after christmas. The mechanic told me someone else brought their car in on Monday for poor gas mileage so I though it was you. This means that if you take yours in that will be three people in this area

TheTick

What octane and what filling station do you all use for your 8? Then what is your average MPH?

91 octane shell gas
13 MPG city
15 MPG hwy

9-K Rever

93 Octane all the time.

I know the car can run on 91, but I have only put 93 in it. That is closer to the higher octane gas in Japan.

I am not picky with who's gas I use. Mostly WAWA cuz its so cheap there. But, I realy don't care about who's gas goes in my car. It depends on wich station is closer.

But, I have only run 93 octane in my 8.

I will bring it in when I have the time. I thought I could do it this week, but its not looking like I will be able to.

But, I have to say, I am with you. Even if my 8 had problems I would stick with it. I love the car. Its my first rotary and it has easily become my favorite car.

9-K Rever

TheTick

There seems to be a school of thought that the 87 octane will make your 8 run better. I will try out the 87 octane if and when I get my car back.

Elara

For what it's worth, I've been running the Exxon 93 octane ever since I got the car, and I do get the EPA's gas mileage. Usually around 18-20mpg in mixed driving. Except when I'm thrashing the poor car, which I find myself doing more and more as of late.

You have to remember that the EPA's mileage is not based on any kind of realistic test, and pretty much all cars are going to get less than the stated mpg. And Mazda did not make the MPG claim- they are not allowed to make any of their own claims due to outdated government rules and regulations.

Anyway, Wingnut, if you around, I saw you at lunch at the corner across from the Exxon in Innsbrook. I wasn't in my 8, though- rather a slate gray Kia Sportage with a friend.

TheTick

I agree that there are variences with the posted mileage but 13 MPG vs 18MPG and 15 vs 25 is way too much varience. Normally the EPA estimates are lower than the actually. My Maxima used to get 3 MPG more than what they stated and my CRV does 5MPG better. I am just dissapointed and I think this is just something that Mazada should look into. There are a lot of people on this forum complaing of the exact same mileage problem yet there are some who either meet or exceede the posted MPG rating. : )

9-K Rever

DONT DO THAT! Nothing less then 91.

You will get engine knock at the least. Worse thing that can happen is your engine could PING. If you don't know what PING is you can look it up. Its bad stuff...there is also the fear of DETONATION.

Detonation in a ROTARY CAN HAPPEN. You can snap the ECENTRIC SHAFT and dent a rotar against the rotar houseing.

VERY BAD.

Don't listen to the forum on that, cuz you don't know if what they say is true. Your owners manual says no less than 91 Octane and your warranty does not cover improper fuel or fluid.

The RENISIS HAS A COMPRESION RATIO OF 10:1 THUS THE NEED FOR HIGH OCTANE GAS.

9-K Rever

TheTick

Thanks for the info I will stick with the 91 gas and my poor gas mileage. Even with the crappy mileage I love how this car looks, feels, and drives. : )

TheTick

I thought the Richmond 8 owners were all supposed to be getting together! If so let me know whne so I can jump in. : )

9-K Rever

I have been trying to get every one together for months now hence the beguinning of this thread!

TheTick

I'm in! You can use my AIM to setup a date or whatever if you want. I am usually on AIM at night after work : )

TheTick

This is the link that talks about the 87 octane gas but I will take your advice because I don't want to void my warrenty especially with all the problems I have had with my car so far.

https://www.rx8club.com/rx-8-discussion-3/87-octane-answer-idle-9314/

9-K Rever

Yeah Tick...I am still waiting for some flames...they don't know what they are talking about.

Keep high octane in the car. Not every body on this forum knows what they are talking about.

I feel that I will be deffending this post later.

But, I will do it with proof and back up.

I sent a few members on the Richmond forum my number, and I haven't heard from them. I like to think I am a very personable and nice guy. Those who have my number call. We can talk rotars and cars.

9-K Rever

9-K Rever

If any one on the Richmond forum wants to catch a beer tonite I am down.

We can make a qick run to HOPS.

9-K Rever

TheTick

sounds good to me let me know when. i wont have my 8 with me but i will be thinking about her. Let me know what time you want to meet up and how I can recognize you : )

xr8tee

Hey....I've been missing for a while.....that was my 8 in CAP on Monday....they replaced the gas cap which got rid of the engine light (though they tried to say it was caused by the after-market wheels with no sensors). I had them look into the poor gas mileage and what they said was...."checked for codes, found no codes; checked ESI, no info; checked for PCM updates, none available at this time"....they gave me an EPA pamphlet on gas mileage issues and ask me to monitor and record my next two fill-ups and mileage. I'll be doing that and I'll keep you guys informed....for the record I am thrilled with the car, I've had no problems, but for some reason the gas consumption seems to be getting worse...from an average of just about 18 hi'way when I first bought it to just under 14 now. Oil has not been a problem, I've added a quart only twice, at around 1800 and just this week at 3400.

xr8tee

Hey Elara.....take it ez...you almost blew me over as you whizzed down *** Road around 8:30 this morning....I had just crossed over your lane in my '76 280Z when you blew by me....

I am seeing so many 8s around Richmond now my head's constantly spinning....sorry I'm missing tonite's gettogether.

TheTick

Thanks for the info xr8tee! I was wondering who had there car in there for the bad mileage besides me : ) Also I just got back from Hops with 9k Rever and he did indeed buy the beer! Thanks a lot Rever. Xr8tee they told me the exact thing when I complained about the MPG and gave me that stupid pamphlet. : )

Elara

Whoops. Sorry. Was running late, had to drop a book off at the library, got cut off on 64 by a van...wasn't doing so hot this morning....where on ***?

9-K Rever

Thanks for showing up Tick! Elara did a sneak drive by while we were drinking.

I just made it back down town. I always love the drive from the west end down here. Lots of free highway and I can let my rotars spin and and spin.

Sounds like you drive like me Elara! What does your plate say so I know if you try to buzz by me.

9-K Rever

Elara

ELARAS 8



And no, before anyone else asks, Elara isn't my real name, it's what I go by on the internet.

9-K Rever

Didn't think it was your real name. Did you think my mom named me 9-K Rever??

Hehehehe!