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so i might be ONE of the many younger users of this,
im 15, and turning 16 in july (far away but i need to be sure on a car i like now! no second guessing for me!)
but this would be my first car if i were to get it, and if i get the stickshift i can learn fast i know all the basics already!
but i need opinions! is this a good first car or should i go a different route?
btw, im a guy. hahaha
thanks!
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That being said, and I don't know if this is how insurance works, but -- If you do get this car and I see my insurance go up due to profiled statistics of owners of RX-8's, I will find you.
No, the Rx8 is probably not the best idea for you. The amount of money you'd be paying alone for insurance would probably be more than I pay for 2 car payments and insuring 4 vehicles lol. There are 18-21 year olds here paying something like 500 a month for their 8, never mind the car payment.
Assuming money is not even an issue for you, you'd do better to actually learn to drive before you get a nicer car. Lets say that you're a damn good driver for your age and don't do anything stupid. If you attend a high school, there is a good chance that the majority of people you park next to can't even pull out of a parking space without smashing into something (like your nice shiny new car).
I cannot even begin to tell you how many times my old Golf got dinged up by the morons driving around in the school lots back when I was in high school.
Get a cheap beater car, learn to drive stick on something that won't cost thousands of dollars to fix/insure/maintain. Get better at driving, wait a few years and when you are ready for it, get a nicer car.
I had a Lamborghini LP-550-2 Gallardo Balboni as a first car. I totaled it and got an RX8. I'm 14 btw.
^^^ lol...
For the record im 17... I was fortunate enough to be given a Automatic RX-8 as my first car. I modded it and drove it for a year and a half then recently sold it and bought my manual 8. I had to stick with the auto and couldn't sell it, so finally getting a manual is a world of relief being such a rotorhead and a obsessive car guy, it killed me not getting a manual at 16, but I endured it (lol) and my dream finally came true...
Meaning: Get an 8 if you want one, i fell in love with it and have been obsessed with it since the day i turned 16, granted the manual is a world a difference but just make sure you know how to drive it before you get a manual. I, having read and been interested in cars since i was 10 basically stepped right in and got the hang of it and grasped it, I was a born natural. Granted I learned how to drive a manual in a Ford Ranger but still, learn the basics of a manual in a P.O.S. car first then step into the 8, you dont want to toast the tranny. I have a friend, i suppose..., that got a manual 8 recently and has ruined his tranny in 800 miles, dont be like him... if you're going to get a manual respect it and learn how to drive it. Most of all take care of whatever car you get, and RESPECT it, the 8 might not accelerate "fast" but it can still kill you. Good luck
like some pointed out you should learn on a different car the parts for this thing are a bitch to find cheap, take it from a 17 year old that had to put his back together from a salvage yard
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let me go ahead and sub in for dozer and renesis Dozer: down a ******' 40oz and dump some sprinkles on a b1tch! Renesis: blah blah blah blah - JDM SHIT - blah blah blah blah - don't be a fanboi, newfag - blah blah blah - atleast you don't drive a camry...
i got my 8 when i was 18, high insurance rates/car payments/gas. im not exactly from a wealthy family, but hey, im not turning down getting an 8 versus a beater to drive around. i did however, drive a 97" Pathfinder since i was 15 1/2 till i was 18 so i knew how to react in tough situations, and have had some driving experience before i was in control of a sports car.
i did have my first accident in the pathfinder too! i wasnt at fault though, a TC decided to make a left turn in an intersection without looking for on-coming cars.
also, i did learn how to drive stick on the 8. the day at the dealership was embarrassing, because i got a 30-min lesson on how to drive MT before i took it home. but, hey, 30 min of embarresment is better than a lifetime of AT, in a sports car. not to mention the parts aren't cheap either. thats why i have a job now, for all the replacement parts i need / mods.
this car is high maintenance [than the average "toyota"] so be prepared to baby it. also, when it comes to owning a car like this, you will have your share of close calls or stupid maneuvers. trust me it will happen! everyone says they are a good driver, but sometimes you dont think logically when you drive, especially when there can be many distractions.
here are some things to remember
-if you can afford it financially, then go for it.
-but, if you dont have the experience to handle "suprise" down the road, then you might want to consider waiting a bit, and buy the 8 in a couple years, or when your at least 17/18 so you can get a couple years under your belt.
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Take my advice, buy a faster car before you get the RX8. Go get yourself a Viper SRT-10 or hell, even a ZR-1. Turn all nanny controls off too. Daily drive it in the rain and snow. Once you are ready to step down to an RX-8, it'll be childs play.
Trust me, this is coming from an ex RWD Lamborghini Gallardo LP-550-2 Balboni owner.
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"glory hole of fields... glory hole of fields" haha wtf??
isn't a glory hole where a ***** pops out at you from a hole in the wall?
i've owned a lot of cars, and imo the 8 is perfect for you.
-looks nice
-decent performance
-well documented maintenance on this site... if you learn to take care of this car, you will be set for life. cars change, but the basics dont change that drastically. the RX-8 REQUIRES proper maintenance, so this will be an awesome car to learn what it means to be responsible and take care of a nice piece of machinery
-focus on the maintenance first, then upgrades later
-please, be careful with her. no drinking/driving or texting/driving :D
-also if you can get involved in a local race club, you will enjoy it even more. learn from them
if you stay out of trouble with it, your insurance might be high at first, but will not increase. also, most insurance companies will give a good discount, like 10% if you submit proof of good grades
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If you can earn the money to buy the 8 and also afford to pay for the insurance, yourself, and afford to make the repairs, then go for it - it's your money, you can do what you want..
If your parents are paying for the car and the insurance, I propose that for the first year (at least) while you learn how to drive, you drive an old VW Bug - they are very easy to work on, you can gap the spark plugs with a credit card and you can tune the engine by ear - It won't go very fast, so you will have less speed to kill yourself with ,and it is too cramped for you to comfortably make love to your girl! You can do a lot of mods, and this will keep you out of trouble!
But, if you happen to be an engineering freak, know what a Wankel engine is, and have already put in your college application to MIT or Carniege M., and your parents are willing to support your expensive hobbies and maybe even join you in them - than go for the 8.
If you are investing, and plan to keep the car until you are old enough to buy something better, I suggest a Mazerati, or a Farrari, and get some experience on the track. I would suggest a used beat up one.
If you are simply in love with the looks - get a good piston engine frame and a kit, and a couple of friends and have fun.
Since you are in Texas - you might consider a truck - this will teach you stick, it has a harder body and is hard to damage and will survive a crash or two, or three. But better still, get a Honda Civic - if you wreck that, no one will care, and they might even be glad you did it!
Hey, we were all there once. I bent a steering rod and dented a steel wheel while doing donuts in an automatic Galant
Honestly... the better first car would be a late 80's RX-7. Still RWD, still fast enough to get you in trouble, still teaches you everything you need/want to know about car maintenance and it costs so much less that when you're ready to buy an 8, you can buy one in much better shape than if you were to buy one now for $10-14k.
It will also make you a better driver. If you get involved in racing locally (AutoX is probably the best place to start), learning on a non-ABS car is going to make you a far superior driver once you get into an ABS car.
An early 90's Miata works just as well, but if your Mom is anything like mine, she'll call it a death trap and use her Executive Veto power
well, i know i wont crash it well not know, but im a pretty dang good driver i already am pretty much an expert at my dads piece of **** avalon.
Do not get an RX-8 if that is your attitude. The 8 was my first car after driving my parent's car around for quite a while. That said, I made sure to be ridiculously safe and assumed something could go wrong. The fact that you're that cocky just indicates you're more likely to be one of those statistics for teen drivers getting in wrecks.
Take my advice, buy a faster car before you get the RX8. Go get yourself a Viper SRT-10 or hell, even a ZR-1. Turn all nanny controls off too. Daily drive it in the rain and snow. Once you are ready to step down to an RX-8, it'll be childs play.
Trust me, this is coming from an ex RWD Lamborghini Gallardo LP-550-2 Balboni owner.
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well, i know i wont crash it well not know, but im a pretty dang good driver i already am pretty much an expert at my dads piece of **** avalon.
Ah, youth - it must be nice to contemplate owning a car that is better than your Dad's.
I bet your dad would enjoy an 8.
Why don't you buy him one?
He seems to be kind enough to allow you to drive his car, even below the legal age - and he would be experienced enough to appreciate the way an 8 handles and the feel of the machine at high or low speeds...
So, do you change the oil in the Avalon? Detail it? Check the tire pressure and water? Wax it and dress the tires? If you are doing this for the car you actually have, and are treating your Dad's car with respect, then I am sure you will do well with an 8!
But if you just treat iyour Dad's car, and probably your Dad, like manure, then you are much much too young to own any car, much less one that is a peice of jewelry!
Hey, im just like him, im thinking of getting a 8 also but im 17 and this will be my second car. I currently drive a beater 96 ford explorer with really bad tranny problems but it gets me to school. im getting a new car when i become a senior
Hey, im just like him, im thinking of getting a 8 also but im 17 and this will be my second car. I currently drive a beater 96 ford explorer with really bad tranny problems but it gets me to school. im getting a new car when i become a senior
well then this applies to you too
I remember when I turned 16 and hearing all of my friends saying they were good drivers... I smirked and laughed, how exactly can you be a good driver and you havent even drived a year, this includes me as well. I always admited I cant be a good driver only driving for a year or more, but a familiar Car&Driver article said the same thing I said. Noone can be a good driver until you've had experience and time under you're belt. Even professional drivers learn something new from driving. just a few words of advice...
Im not a "good" driver, but I know I try and practice to be the best I can be
Most people consider themselves to be above average in driving skill. For obvious reasons, that really doesn't work out in reality. So obviously a lot of people who think they are better than average are, in fact, below average.