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I don't know... That's a pretty tall order. That would be <sliding abicus beads furiously> 1mph per second acceleration! My god! Do they think Mazda can work miricles?!?
I like this part a lot too: "because of the unique design of the powerplant (it has no cylinders and the engine 'block' actually rotates inside a metal shell) it means that up to 250 bhp can be squeezed from the engine. " The block rotates inside a metal shell? Up to 250 hp?!? They researched this this one hard... ly.
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Judging by the quality of the rest of the article's misinformation, I'd say they didn't do a lot of research, and the person responsible for editing and/or writing the article doesn't know much about cars.
So at the rate of acceleration given here, what would the 1/4 mile time be? :D
The WRX has only 227hp, 217lb/ft of torque, and it weighs 3100lbs. But yeah, it has AWD, which is good off the line, but kinda bad for all out acceleration, as you can't spin the tires.
The RX-8 will have more horsepower, less weight, and most likely shorter gears, along with the RWD factor.
The WRX has been tested at 5.4 by Car and Driver. What says the RX-8 won't beat that?
Road & Track did a "first drive" of the yellow pre-production RX-8, and gives an estimated performance of 0-60 in 6.0 seconds, with the quater mile coming in 14.5 seconds.
This seems reasonable. The engine isn't a torque monster, so I don't think we'll see sub-6 second 0-60 times. 6 secs is fast enough for me.
Also, that is a fairly old article (Oct.2001), but that was a very lame attempt to explain how a rotary engine functions differently from a piston engine.
The article also tried to explain how the side sills were reinforced to improve side impact protection, but I remember reading in R&T or C&D that there are also vertical beams in the rear doors to help with that. Am I mistaken on that point?
The final release is still so far away that there could be several changes to the structure and design of this car, but I hope it won't be detrimental to the car's purpose or performance.
Everyone keeps asking about a release date, but what about the factory tooling date. It is at this point where I think the production version will be finalized.
those bars have nothing to do with the rotary engine, but yeah, they're there. It's how the car acheives the rigidity of having a b-pillar, even though it looks like there isn't one there.
If you look closely at the R&T pics, you'll see that the mule car still does not yet have an upper latch for the door to bolt to. At that point, there was still some work to do. Also the article stated that 'computer simulations' indicated safety performance from the pill-less chassis, perhaps there's some real world numbers required some alterations...
Back to the original topic, knowing manufacturers marketing, the RX-8's time will be exactly 5.9 seconds. For example, Mini states it's Cooper S does 0-60 in 6.9 seconds although the same company states that it's lighter european counterpart does it in 7.4 seconds which is much more realistic (the base Acura RSX gets mid 7s with almost identical power-to-weight ratio to the Cooper S). Wonder how the North American version Mini managed to shave off .5 seconds?
If we're talking about Nissans, their cars have been going slower than the claimed factory acceleration times.
For everyone else, most of the time the car mags can get a faster time. I believe Car and Driver clocked the RSX Type S at 6.1 seconds, while I bet we'd be lucky to hit it in under 7 without really beatin the snot outta the clutch.
If Mazda says around 6.0 seconds, it wouldn't surprise me at all to see a mag get it in 5.5 seconds or less. Not bad, even if 6.0, that's still plenty fast for me :D
well for one R&T didnt really test the car - they were not allowed to bring any measuring eq... so them saying 6 sec to 60 doesnt have to be correct... although it seems like a nice round number that marketing execs wont like too much... so as fritz already said it will most likely be at least 5.9444 ;-)
as to Mini speed difference between Europe and USA - its prolly the difference between USA measurements taken for 0-60 while Europeans measure 0-62, and its quite common actually, I am sure some of it might be marketing ploy but at the same time 0.5 sec diff is not that strange
Another reason for the difference with the Mini - in Europe they supposedly test with more weight in the car - 2 passengers I think plus some other things I can't remember. There are some discussions about this on the Mini forums like mini2.com.
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I think that Mazda learned its lesson when they misreported the Miata's hp rating last year. I'm sure when we see the final numbers they will be accurate. That said, we won't know those numbers until just before it is released. The 350z's numbers haven't even been officially released yet (due out on July 3rd). Also 0-60 time depends on many factors including: driver, altitude, air temp, road temp, humidity, air pressure, and tire pressure. These factors can easily cost half a second so its not unusual to see a spectum of test results.
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Styjan made some great points. European cars are fitted with different tires (usually better ones), and actually measure the quarter mile in 400 meters (is that the same?), plus it's 0-100km which is roughly 0-62mph.
i hope the car will be around 5.5 to 60..because the 3rd generation rx-7 is around there i have seen as low as 5.1..so i hope the rx-8 will at least be that fast.
no, seriously i don't see any reason why the rx-8 would be any slower than 6.0 secs. What reasoning would cause it to be greater than that? I can see the 1/4 mile being slower than the rx-7 because of th lack of turbos, but the 8 has a flatter torque curve because of the absence of the turbos. So why wouldn't it be faster to 60 than 6 secs?
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