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Can anyone recommend a decent job search site besides Monster or CareerBuilder? I've been using those sites for months but keep finding that they're either out of date or that the jobs being listed are by staffing companies. All I want is to find a job through a company that's hiring, not have to go through some shady company that controls the whole process.
I hate searching for a new job. It's nerve-wracking enough trying find something normally, and with all these damn staffing services posting it makes it twice as hard to tell what's legit and what's not. And it's driving me ******* nuts!
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Ronin, what type of job are you looking for? There are some sites that are industry-specific. Also, are you looking for a career-type job or something p/t or something f/t but that will pay the bills for now...? And what is your experience level for you field. I used to be a legal recruiter, and my parent company had recruiters in just about every field. You may be able to work with one.
id say definitely go with some sort of head hunter (although im not sure if they find you or vice versa)
I have no problem with going through a head hunter. The problem is finding one that is good and reputable. I get calls from "head hunters" all the time who are willing to find me a job for the low, low price of $$$.
I have no problem with going through a head hunter. The problem is finding one that is good and reputable. I get calls from "head hunters" all the time who are willing to find me a job for the low, low price of $$$.
I shouldn't have to pay to get a job.
First of all, we like to be called recruiters, not head hunters. We're not bounty killers.
Second of all, you're right, you shouldn't have to pay to get a job. A legitimate RECRUITER (or search consultant, as they sometimes like to be called) makes commission off your salary, which the employer pays, not you.
Don't mind their location; a recruiter's job is done almost entirely over the phone, so they don't have to be in the same locale as your geographical target area. Also, it is not recommended that you contact several recruiters to work for you, unless you have each one calling for specific geographical areas. Otherwise, a) they won't work as hard for you, and b) you will get a lot of overlap and it will make you look desperate when more than one recruiter calls to pitch you to the same client.
First of all, we like to be called recruiters, not head hunters. We're not bounty killers.
Second of all, you're right, you shouldn't have to pay to get a job. A legitimate RECRUITER (or search consultant, as they sometimes like to be called) makes commission off your salary, which the employer pays, not you.
Don't mind their location; a recruiter's job is done almost entirely over the phone, so they don't have to be in the same locale as your geographical target area. Also, it is not recommended that you contact several recruiters to work for you, unless you have each one calling for specific geographical areas. Otherwise, a) they won't work as hard for you, and b) you will get a lot of overlap and it will make you look desperate when more than one recruiter calls to pitch you to the same client.
Easiest way to get a job is to call a relative or an "aquantance (that owes you favors, or is a relative of someone that owes you favors" and demand a high paying job with little actual working involved.
As a person who has been looking for a job and as an emplyer I prefer Headhunters to web-based job sites.
Most headhunters don't charge the person looking for the job only the company that hires you so there isn't a downside to it.
The other approach that worked for me is to contact an executive directly for a company you want to work for. Its really not that hard to find out the ley contacts iona company. I'm sure that in the US they have the same type of books available in the publis library that we have here. They are books that have the "key contact" info for businesses....they are updated yearly.
Easiest way to get a job is to call a relative or an "aquantance (that owes you favors, or is a relative of someone that owes you favors" and demand a high paying job with little actual working involved.
Believe me if I could I would. Everyone I know that is in IT right now either is looking for something else, or they're waiting to get laid off. I really hate the job search process. It's one of the rare times when I am on edge because I don't feel as if I'm in control of the situation.
In my adult life, I have never gotten a job offer by posting my resume, going for a job interview, and wowing my prospective employer. Instead, every job I've worked has been because someone who knew me recommended me for the job.
My friend just talked to me yesterday about some weird new advertising method which is referral/internet based and you get paid for it. It's interesting. It sounds like a BJ's membership deal crossed by a pyramid scheme. I'm not sure what to think about it.
My neighbor is in IT, when he got laid off he went through a temporary service that contracted him to other companies. He made a fair amount more than his previous salary (because he didn't get benefits) but he worked on one year contracts. The Temp agency billed his time and cut him checks. A lot of harder to get into companies hire temps and if they are doing a good job as there contract ends, they get hired. My neighbor got in with Vanguard outside of Phila this way.
If you go this route, make sure it is a reputable firm and find out where they place folks on contracts. If they have high profile placements, like the pharm companies, insurance, mutual funds, etc. it can be an excellent way in the door. At the same time it also allows you to figure out if it is a company that you want to work for as well.
My neighbor is in IT, when he got laid off he went through a temporary service that contracted him to other companies. He made a fair amount more than his previous salary (because he didn't get benefits) but he worked on one year contracts. The Temp agency billed his time and cut him checks. A lot of harder to get into companies hire temps and if they are doing a good job as there contract ends, they get hired. My neighbor got in with Vanguard outside of Phila this way.
If you go this route, make sure it is a reputable firm and find out where they place folks on contracts. If they have high profile placements, like the pharm companies, insurance, mutual funds, etc. it can be an excellent way in the door. At the same time it also allows you to figure out if it is a company that you want to work for as well.
I wouldn't mind working as a temp provided it was a reputable company. Benefits aren't a problem because I can always get on my wife's plan. Do you know the name of the temp service your neighbor went through?
On the subject of Vanguard, I worked for them as a contractor years ago. When I left the company I was working for, the bubble had just burst and Vanguard stopped buying PC equipment. I tried to get into their IT department, but the freeze effected hiring, too. I would have jumped at a chance to work for Vanguard. They've got their **** together when it comes to running their business and they treat their employees well (at least they did back then).
My neighbor did the same thing, went on his wife's benefits while he temped. Can't recall the company that he temped through (I recall it was one that specialized in IT). I'll talk with him and PM you when I find out.
From talking with him, Vanguard still is a pretty good place to work, of course with the economy down things are a bit tighter so there are a few more pressure, clearly they can't be as rewarding to employees when the economy hits the funds they manage (it wouldn't look too good to investors).
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