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I would say that small cars in "in" right now because people have been tricked into think a small car = better mileage. So many companies are building smaller cars. Fit, Cube, Yaris, 206, Versa, 3, 2, 1 series etc.....
"The ultimate Mazda in our minds is rotary powered; as a company, we have no intention of abandoning that valuable asset." -- Franz von Holzhausen (Mazda Chief Designer)
The MS3 and new STi hatch are great performing cars with amazing utility. What's not to like? In a perfect world we'd all have 2 door sports cars but people have kids, and pets, and all the other stuff. True story.
The STI changed their body style for rally purposes. They needed to do something that gave them more control through the twistys.
Please don't go camparing a "Rice Rocket" to the STI or MS3.
On a side note, I agree with SleepeR, 2.5RS is the best model and from what I have driven the most fun to drive too. Acutally the 2.5RS with a 22b body is FTW
The STI changed their body style for rally purposes. They needed to do something that gave them more control through the twistys...
So true! I must admit, even as an Evo owner, I absolutely love the fact that the desire for continued success in WRC is actually driving Subaru STi development. This video is the reason (err two reasons really) that Subaru is running a hatch in WRC going forward...
i wish i could afford the ms3 as a second car (i wouldn't mind it as my main car, i just can't part with the 8!!) - speed, handling, plus all that room?! call it a grocery getter if you want, but i'd love to be able to fold the back seats down, throw a bunch of stuff in the back (without piecing it in there like a puzzle) and still pass most cars on the on-ramp. great package overall.
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RB Sways F&R | Tein S Springs | Konis (@50%) | AFE SS | Revi Intake + Duct | Tinted Windows & Taillights | LED Brakelight | Authentic MS Front + MS Sides | Fabulous Rear | Lebren LED Rear Fog | Rota P45R + Dunlop Star Specs | RR Interior Footwell Lights
I agree with many posts above. I have a 02 P5 the whole family has loved the car. Lots of space, great gas milage, 150,000+ miles with NO problems. IMO it looks great and delivers tons of value. I have owned the P5 since new (ordered before it was even in the states), and I have 0 complaints. With all that said, I test drove a speed3 this summer. It is a great car! Fast in a strait line, minimal torque steer, nice ride. The only reason I didn't buy one is I already have the P5 and I had my eye on an 8. Just my two cents.
Do you have any idea how may bodies you can throw into a station wagon? My parents use to own a 940 Volvo station wagon, and you could fit anything in that car. Put all the seats down and it was like having a truck. But by far the coolest thing was the back hatch had flip up rear seat that faced backwards. That would keep you entertained for hours.
^^yeah but imo staionwagons shouldnt go fast or "try" to look sporty/cool
but when they do it pleases all parties (me with speed/fun, girlfriend with practicality, better mileage (than the 8), space). i'm still working on her to get it, but she can't get past the "station-wagony" look. whoever said it up there, "5-doors" are just lowered suv's! some look better/worse than others, but i like the ms3 look.
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2004 RX-8 | Sold
RB Sways F&R | Tein S Springs | Konis (@50%) | AFE SS | Revi Intake + Duct | Tinted Windows & Taillights | LED Brakelight | Authentic MS Front + MS Sides | Fabulous Rear | Lebren LED Rear Fog | Rota P45R + Dunlop Star Specs | RR Interior Footwell Lights