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Just out of curiosity, how modified are these cars from stock form? Are they completely gutted to just the shell and custom built back up or are they a lightened reinforced version of the street car with a few tweaks.
Originally posted by cueball1029 Just out of curiosity, how modified are these cars from stock form? Are they completely gutted to just the shell and custom built back up or are they a lightened reinforced version of the street car with a few tweaks.
i don't know the rules (Super?) but it appears that the chassis are stockish (the Audi probably has the rear doors welded... and i hope the RX-8 could have that done as well) with roll cages, but the powertrain (the 4wd systems, engines, tranny's) are all hard-core race, it seems, right along with the brakes, tyres, body panels, windows, aero, etc...
Sounds like REAL stock car racing to me, not like that boring, circle track bull called NASCAR. Why do people even like NASCAR anyway? The cars bear absolutely no resemblance to the cars they are supposedly based on, all they do is drive in circles, and they're slow compared to other oval track racers. I just don't get it.
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You guys NEED to check this out! Mazda is currently in 5th and 6th place with two Protege ES in the Touring Car class! Their drivers are Roger Froo and Chuck Hemmingson. The RX-8 will DEFINITELY be competitive in this class!
Originally posted by Schneegz You guys NEED to check this out! Mazda is currently in 4th place with a Protege ES in the Touring car class! Their driver is Shauna Marinus from the US. The RX-8 will DEFINITELY be competitive in this class!
yes Mazda has been quite successful the past 2 years in the Touring class with the Protege
hence the reason the RX-8 needs to be placed in the GT class, so they can cover both levels of competition
yeah, i think that to have the RX-8 lumped in with Integras, Civics, and other FWD cars would be bad publicity...
anyways, the Protege is widely regarded as having the best engine in that series by far (yes, even against the Hondas, Toyotas, etc)... don't ask me why, but i'd love to know too... well, Mazda is racing.
yeah, i think that to have the RX-8 lumped in with Integras, Civics, and other FWD cars would be bad publicity...
anyways, the Protege is widely regarded as having the best engine in that series by far (yes, even against the Hondas, Toyotas, etc)... don't ask me why, but i'd love to know too... well, Mazda is racing.
read the latest Car and Driver (w/ the Evo and STi on the cover) and you'll see why they have the strongest motor....
hint: it's called 'leveling the playing field'
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Originally posted by ZoomZoomH hint: it's called 'leveling the playing field'
???
i'm not in the habit of buying car magazines, but i'll check this out today... why would the playing field need to be leveled?? they're all OHC, 2.0L (or whatever) FWD 4 bangers...
Short answer to the rules, the cars are gutted on the interior, and a full race roll cage installed, fuel cell, and proper seats. A dash needs to stay, and the IP in the normal position. Stock mirrors are used on the outside, and a wing and front dam added according to the SCCA rules.
Suspension and brakes are also tweaked, such as replacing rubber bushings with metal ones, but the suspension geometry needs to stay the same.
The dam and wing are different per car, to keep things even between the cars. The engines are likewise different to keep things level, but all cars have the engines that come from the factory. Depending on how SCCA is leveling things, that engine could be rebuilt with certain parts, and in some cases an SC could be added (boost added/restricted on factory turbo cars). But the engines will still be based on what is available from the factory (I.E. the NSX engine is the same V6, but built, with a centrifugal SC and air/water intercooler, and the different models of BMW sedans/coupes have the same engine and displacement).
According to insiders who were involved with the Protege' engine development, expect them to enter the RX8 into the GT series.
---jps
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i'm not in the habit of buying car magazines, but i'll check this out today... why would the playing field need to be leveled?? they're all OHC, 2.0L (or whatever) FWD 4 bangers...
let's just say they allow a HECK LOT MORE internal modifications to the engine for the Protege's 2.0L than the RSX's 2.4 or BMW's famed inline 6
basically they spec out each model of competing vehicles in a way such that everyone will be close to each other in terms of performance.
I mean, stock to stock, do you really think a $15000 Protege will run side by side with a $28000 325i
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