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Old 06-30-2007, 02:01 PM
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For Sale: Worlds Oldest car

Steam-powered 1884 car will be auctioned at Pebble Beach in August.


NEW YORK (CNNMoney.com) -- A steam-powered car, billed as the oldest car in the world that still runs, will be sold in a Pebble Beach, Calif., auction in August.

The car was built in France in 1884, about a year before Gottlieb Daimler and Karl Benz of Germany built their first experimental gasoline-powered cars. (The two were working independently of one another.) Henry Ford, the man many Americans mistakenly believe invented the automobile, built his first car 12 years after this one.

The four-wheeled De Dion-Bouton et Trepardoux, nicknamed "La Marquise," was originally built for the French Count De Dion, one of the founders of the company. The car has had only two other owners since, according to auction house Gooding & Company, which is handling the sale.

In an 1887 demonstration drive, the car covered a 19 mile course at an average speed of 26 miles per hour. The following year, it won the world's first car race, according to Gooding, beating a three-wheeled steam-powered De Dion-Bouton.

Fueled by coal, wood and bits of paper, the car takes about a half-hour to work up enough steam to drive. Top speed is 38 miles per hour.

"That's as fast as you want to go," said David Gooding, founder of the auction company. "It feels like going 80 or 90 miles per hour in a newer automobile. And, by newer, I mean 1910."

The car runs on thin tires of solid rubber wrapped around metal wheels.

Bob Casey, curator of transportation for the Henry Ford Museum and Greenfield Village in Dearborn, Michigan, agreed that the De Dion-Bouton is, quite possibly, the oldest running automobile. (The definition of "automobile," in this case, excludes large steam-powered carriages that were, essentially, rail cars without rails.) Casey's museum has an American-made steamer dating from the 1860s but it's no longer safe to drive and probably wasn't even when Henry Ford bought it in 1930.

Gooding estimates the car's value at between $1. 5 million and $2 million. It will be auctioned on August 19 in Pebble Beach, Calif.



I wonder how it handles on the twisties.


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Old 06-30-2007, 02:24 PM
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Same car but 1890 model year.

http://www.steamcar.net/z-christies.html
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That's where we were 120+ years ago is just depressing.
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But if I pulled up next to someone driving that, I would have to rev on it.
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Am I the only one wondering how on earth you actually drive that thing? Seriously... are there pedals? Is there a conventional steering wheel? Since it's steam powered, do you have to keep stuffing coal into the furnace? wtf?!?
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who is the current owner that is selling it?
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Imagine the burnouts that thing could do...
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that is awesome resale value! Take that Lexus
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I'd buy it, but I can't find a good aftermarket exhaust for it.

BTW how much boost can your average steam engine acheive without detona...er...condensing?
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Originally Posted by ½mv²
BTW how much boost can your average steam engine acheive without detona...er...condensing?
If it's anything like steam locomotives of that time... around 120 psi.

Let's see a turbo pump that!

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I bet it gets better mpg than the RX8



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wouldn't that be mplc (miles per lump of coal)?
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I would definitely consider the aero package for it...

Serious note: That is actually pretty cool. Every facet of automobiles could find ties back to this car.
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No steering wheel? How can they steer?!
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Steam is like the anti-rotary: no revs, but a bajillion amount of torque.

Originally Posted by tiggerlee
The car was built in France in 1884, about a year before Gottlieb Daimler and Karl Benz of Germany built their first experimental gasoline-powered cars. (The two were working independently of one another.) Henry Ford, the man many Americans mistakenly believe invented the automobile, built his first car 12 years after this one.
BAHAHAHA, the French were first.
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Somehow you just know that Jay Leno is going to buy that smoke-belching bastard, register/tag it, and drive it to the closest Sonic a couple times a year.

Also the boiler location is funny. Uncovered and sitting right in front of your legs, so you can burn your shins and/or ******* in case of a leak.

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I wonder if it could pull on an 8. :P
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