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this turbo'd skyactive engine should see its way into a mazdaspeed ND before too long.
my 2 cents on it:
if will be a car with a 2.5 liter turbocharged engine on ND platform , in my opinion will be a coupè a-la Rx7,with a different style respect ND MX-5, and this decision will be collateral to the decision about to build or not to build the next rotary car.
Some ND MX-5 suspension images, while design concept is similar as NC/RX-8 the parts are all new and obviously not the same.
6M Transmission is called a M66M-D (NC/S2-RX-8 is a P66M-D).
Also see the ND Rear Wheel Bearing Hub is a much simpler 3 bolt and separated throw away bearing hub similar to the front removable 4 bolt hub on NC/RX-8 (no more pressing out of rear wheel bearing for ND)
New ND full OEM parts listing is up. (left and right hand drive).
As we know ND is all new, and very few shared parts from RX-8/NC, though there are some in suspension (like shock rubber bushes/spacers).
The RWD 6MT Transmission is all new and interestingly Mazda has gone back to splitting the Trans casing into a 3 piece unit (separated Bell Housing, Gear Casing and Extension Housing).
A few interesting ''unserviceable items'', like Rear Sway Bushes are only available with a new rear Sway Bar.!, I trust this will change in time.
Mazda is also using a alloy Oil Pan (Sump) Cover Plate for new ND similar in design to the S2 RX-8 unit fixed with 9 metal bolts.
if will be a car with a 2.5 liter turbocharged engine on ND platform , in my opinion will be a coupè a-la Rx7,with a different style respect ND MX-5, and this decision will be collateral to the decision about to build or not to build the next rotary car.
we wish that were true. XD
either way, I would very much appreciate owning an ND one day.. I can't afford to be an early adopter but then I would rather save a few to ten grand
Thanks for the links...and yes I have read a few US reviews, as the US gets the MX-5 second after Japan release...
Interesting a reviewer was 'complaining' about the new ND's dead feel Steering and how it is not as good as the NC's hydraulic Power Steering, remember the all New ND has electric (motorised) power steering rack for it's system...so it is similar to the new Mazda 2,3,6,CX-3,CX-5.
Also complaints about the ND not having a Glove Compartment, I have not checked, but this dos not sound correct to me...might have a look at EPC later...
Another how the 2.0l Horsepower is down on the ND when compared to the NC.
167 (NC) horsepower down to 155 (ND) hp.
But the ND is lighter so the power to weight ratio is probably slightly better in the ND.
Others saying it looks better in the flesh than in pictures.
Some of the parts (suspension components) appear to be very light and I wonder about durability and reliability.
Mazda in USA are looking at 20,000 sales units for the ND for a year, pretty ambitious.
Don't get me wrong I really like the all new ND, but in some ways it has lost it's Miata-ness.
I will own another MX-5 in the next few years. I'll let the ND shake out for a while and then decide which car to buy. It looks like it could be a winner so far, but time will tell.
It does look better in person than in pictures, I can attest to that (NYC Auto Show). Though looks are entirely subjective to the person so ymmv
It is down on power, but it is also faster (it tips the stock RX-8 in off-the-line accelation easily now, about a second faster than the NC 0-60, faster than the FRS/BRZ/FT86).
Interesting a reviewer was 'complaining' about the new ND's dead feel Steering and how it is not as good as the NC's hydraulic Power Steering, remember the all New ND has electric (motorised) power steering rack for it's system...so it is similar to the new Mazda 2,3,6,CX-3,CX-5.
I thought it had basically the same setup as the 8.
Anyone thinking of trading in their 8 for one of these?
I've owned three (!) since 1991 and yes, the thought has crossed my mind. But seein' as how I've had the 8 for nearly ten years now, guess I really like it, and will be keeping it.
That said, on a warm summer night or a crisp autumn day, nothing beats a Miata. Wish I could have both.
Last edited by New Yorker; 06-30-2015 at 08:27 PM.
I've owned three (!) since 1991 and yes, the thought has crossed my mind. But seein' as how I've had the 8 for nearly ten years now, guess I really like it, and will be keeping it.
That said, on a warm summer night or a crisp autumn day, nothing beats a Miata. Wish I could have both.
ASH8 ,in Australia, will the better mileage in the new MX-5 offset the added cost of it now recommending premium fuel ?
Sorry for late response, I did not see it.
I doubt it, but NC MX-5 owners here are talking a huge hit on price as the ND comes in at (up to $15,000 AUD CHEAPER on the 1.5l), proves my point that Mazda Australia has gouged their customers here in OZ for years, and still does on some other models.
Our currency differences are not it, and our taxes are close to or lower than US.
We get both the 1.5 and 2.0, so it "justifies" the low entry price of 1.5l, which will not sell after the first MY (IMO)....most will want 2.0.
Full prices here are not released as the car is a August release. (we are in winter now).
But I use premium fuel in both my cars anyway (98-100 RON), I can definitely tell the difference and they perform run better, but about $1.00 a gallon more.
04-24-2015, 11:55 PM
this has been a meandering conversation since the beginning. mostly because i keep meandering it 
