azian6er

Hey all. I am a very active member of wwwmsprotege.com and i have recently come over here because i am looking to sell my msp for an rx8. I just thought i would share a few pics of stuff to fill you in on my project and possibly spark some interest for the sale or trade of my car...

here are a few pictures...













i am looking for either an rx-8 or a 350z. If you or anyone you know is interested, please direct them to this thread. here is a mod list of everything:

Interior:
Black BRIDE Brix II Seats
TAKATA 4 pt. Harnesses
Dave B. Gauge Rings
Greddy Counter weight Shift ****
Sparco Foot Pedals
Audio/Electronics:
Greddy Full Auto Timer
Defi BF Link Meter Boost
Defi Link Controller II
Innovative Motorsports LM-1 wideband O2 sensor/monitor
Greddy Profec B Electronic Boost controller (Spec I)
Kenwood SIRIUS Satellite Radio

Exterior:
Tein S-Tech Lowering Springs
Kartboy Shifter Bushings
Kartboy Exhaust Hangers
Fiber Images Carbon Fiber OEM style Hood
Mazdaspeed badging
Catz Headlights
35% Tint
Vanity Plate
DG Motorsports AuteoEXE Grill
Greddy License plate frame
5zigen rx-6 16x7
215/45/16 Falken Azenis Sports
Carbotech Bobcat Brake Pads

Engine:
Forged JE 9.1:1 Pistons
Pauter Billet Rods
ARP 11mm Head Studs and Bearing studs
ARP Rod Bolts
Custom Aluminum Billet Fuel Rail
-8 Fuel stainless steel fuel hose and fittings
Accufab Fuel Pressure Regulator
WRX 440cc injectors
Denso High Flow Fuel
Stainless Steel Tial 38 mm external wastegate
Stainless Steel Equal Length Turbo manifold
Jet Hot coated Hot parts
Garrett GT3037S Turbo
Clutchmasters Stage II “R” Clutch
Custom 3.5 in, Thick Intercooler with Polished Cast End tanks
PWR Aluminum Radiator
Custom 2.5 inch Silver powdercoated Charge Pipes
Tial 50 mm Blow off Valve
Optima Red Top Battery
Custom Jet hot coated 2.5 inch Downpipe
Custom Stainless Steel 3.0 inch Race mid pipe
Custom 3in. Cat Back exhaust with Apexi N1 turbo muffler
DG Motor sports Carbon Fiber Strut Tower Bar
Mazdaspeed Oil Filler Cap
AWR Polyurethane Solid Engine Mounts
Hose technique couplers and T-Bolt Clamps
Haltech e6x with 3-bar map sensor

this new turbo kit is good for 500 crank hp which should be equivalent to just about 400 whp or a tad more.

I am going to law school next year and I need a nicer carthat I wont be tempted to tune lol...

what do you all think?

-Bryan

mpt_yellowRX8

It's definitely one of the nicest cars on the forum. How much have you thrown into that car? It seems to me that you will take a loss by trading for a stock 8.

shigginsrx8

Welcome to the club.
How much are you looking to get for that??

and IMO 400whp is stupid in a FWD car, a bit of a waste if you ask me, but it looks decent!.

azian6er

i have invested (lol ) over 19K into the car. BUT isince i am such a bind, i am willing to trade with a stock rx-8 that i like. I am looking to get about 23K for the car.

about the comment of 400+ hp in a fwd, you are correct to an extent... but tell that to some of the srt-4 guys, they will rip your head off... still capable of low 12s high 11's... something many rx-8 owners can only dream about...

It may be fwd, but it really handles itself well for the amount of power it has.

how much are used rx-8's going for? If i am asking for 23K that is about the right price for a trade with a used rx-8 no?

-Bryan

shigginsrx8

SRT-4 guys, bahahah.

anyways, I am not to familiar with the used 8 market, especially in USD, but I would think you could find some used 8's out there with 15000+ miles on them for about 23k. You might beable to find a brand new 2004 still on a dealers lot for a couple grand more.

azian6er

yes the srt-4 guys sometimes leave a little bit left to be desired upstairs but you still cant argue that fast is fast no matter fwd,awd,or rwd..

-B

shigginsrx8

oh it's definetly fast, it's a great little car for the money, but that exact car RWD would be faster

Ike

Nice car man, but it's very unlikely you'll get 23k for it. Your best bet would be to part it out, sell the parts, and then trade it in or sell it for an RX-8.

azian6er

yeah I am stuck between a rock and a hard place... Considering the amount of money invested, i am taking a HUGE hit by selling for 22-23K. The car's motor is brand new, built and reliable. the body only has 20K on it. No winter driving either.

-Bryan

shelleys_man_06

Good Lord. Very impressive bro. It's one of the nicest modified MSPs I've seen in a long time. Too bad when it comes to selling cars, you'll never get back your initial investment.

Good luck with finding an RX-8. I suggest the Base Model if you're broke like me.

RX Renesis

when u get the 8 u'll be tempted to mod... u can't resist modding the 8 and adding a turbo in it..

RXE16T

Hmm, very impressive looking Protege.......

Red Devil

Why do you need to sell it? Because you're going to law school, or because you need a new toy?

If it's because you're going to law school, I don't understand why you need to sell it. You apparently don't need the money.

canaryrx8

iTrader: (3)

that's pretty slick, I like the Bride seats, and that intercooler looks very intimidating. After spending 19k and putting all that work into it I would say just keep it, I've had to part with 2 project vehicles that I had done tons of work too, not a day goes by where I'm not bummed about it. don't make the sme mistake I made.

Genesis

What mistake was that dude...financial?

Mugatu

iTrader: (1)

did you ever take that to the track?

XDEEDUBBX

keep in mind that when purchasing the 8 it wasn't meant for 1/4 mile times..so lets not be so harsh about it...the 8 is actually more of a mature car...anyone can buy a srt or sti evo or whatever and run 12's 11's..its not hard...as far as shiggins comment goes ...400hp on a fwd is not useless...again you have very different views on things...next time make sure you know what you are talking about when you post such a biased comment...

other than that...thats a bad *** MSP...

azian6er

yes i did take it to the track with my previous turbo kit on there. I was running a gt28rs with an stainless manifold etc ... My best was 13.5@109 at 18 psi of boost. Needless to say with a good set of slicks, 12s can be attained.


With the new setup i have yet to dyno it or take it to the track. I just put the kit on 2 weeks ago and it is now very cold in Michigan.

With the haltech tuned for 18 psi on this new kit, 350-375 whp would be expected.

-Bryan

Also about Law school. I want a nice car that I can tote people around in and still be fun to drive, factory warranty etc... I want to get out of modifying and i think a rx-8 or 350z will do that for me. I will be happy with either and wont be tempted to modify other than just rims.

-Bryan

XDEEDUBBX

the 8 would be perfect for you then...as far as you saying you will not modify...thats BS...hahahah j/p

azian6er

not quite sure why you say my comment is biased.... I know the 8 wasnt made for 1/4 mile... that is half of my appeal for the car. I want that more mature image (i.e. law school etc)...

my comment was only based towards those who maybe purchased an rx-8 realized it wasnt as powerful as they would want it, and are thinking of other options that will suit their needs (i.e fast in a straight line but also can hold its own in the twisties).

I meant in no way to badger the rx-8. It is a beautiful car, but maybe leaves a little bit left to be desired in the straight line performance dept.

I still want one though

-bryan

canaryrx8

iTrader: (3)

Financial is just a small part, I really miss driving what I created as well. I built rides that stood apart from their stock counterparts, one of them had shaved everything, full custom interior (all work done by me with help from friends) etc.. and the other had a total front end conversion, all kinds of performance goodies, a one off custom made billet steering wheel designed to match my custom offset Budnik wheels, more cool bodywork tricks etc.. etc.. If I had it to do over, I'd have kept them instead of pitching them for stock. now I have something everyone else has, instead of something I built from stock to wow. At least its yellow though..not as common as some of the other colors

azian6er

would you all think a trade is really something that could happen? It isnt unfathomable is it? It seems like a pretty good trade from my point of view. Even if someone wanted to trade and then part it, they would make money on the deal.

-B

mpt_yellowRX8

Trade in for an 04 RX8 will put you close, if you find the right dealer. You will need to find someone that appreciates and values the work you have done to the car, which is hard to find. As long as you are looking into the lower models of the 8 you should have no problem getting a good deal that you can get close to evening up on. Base 04 6 speed with a few extras will run you around 24-26k.

shigginsrx8

Well if you took the time to read my post, I said that I felt it is stupid not useless and I didn't claim it as fact. It certainly has a purpose, to send gobs of power to the front wheels, a method of power delivery which is less efficient as far as total vehicle performance is concerned versus a RWD car. That is why I think it is a waste. I don't really think it is a very different view of anything, it is a fact. I know more than enough about physics to make that call thanks.

I still like the car man, looks great.

*edited for semantics :p*

Ike

Funny you use the word efficient, because drivetrain loss with a FWD car is usually less than that of a RWD car. So your facts seem a bit ummm non factual :p I understand what you're getting at but don't come across so strong unless you know what you're talking about.