ASH8

http://www.autoweek.com/article/20090106/FREE/901069977

Jedi54

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no more S2K? sad.

Atilla

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...not

ASH8

Yes it is sad news..

So does anyone now think the 16X will be seen anytime soon?..

I don't want to start a posting war here on this subject, but it does not look good for we rotary lovers!

Honda, Toyota have all reported up to 25-35% sales declines for Dec 08..

Mazda have had a 6% increase in sales for all of 2008 world-wide, although a drop in the US ( I think it was 10% for 2008).

9krpmrx8

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That sucks. If Acura made a RWD sports car I would be all over it.

alfy28

yep, i think alot of ppl from other nations would also. but as the news on the S2k , that is pretty sad. S2k is one of my favorite carss

RIWWP

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I think this may actually be good for the 16X. The S2000 was cross-shopped with the RX-8, and removing it may bring more rotory sales to Mazda. A bigger piece of the pie, so-to-speak, or cake, depending on forum preference (far be it from me to start that war!)

Rotory aside though, losing the S2000 is a disappointment, it has always been my favorite factory convertible, and if I went topless, only a renesis-powered MX-5 would trump it.

Renesis07

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WOW, all we need is for the 370Z/ G37 Coupe to drop out and the RX8 might actually have a chance of survival

JRichter

Say it ain't so. Honda is becoming a Toyota.

Another article:

http://www.autocar.co.uk/News/NewsAr...aspx?AR=236796

The restructuring of Honda’s new model programme that led to the death of the new Honda NSX is much more extensive than previously thought. Honda is completely dismantling its plans for the next two years as it attempts to deal with the rapid collapse in new car sales across the world.

Among the casualties of Honda’s rethink are a range of rear-wheel-drive cars to be sold under the Acura brand, a proposed V8 engine, a successor to the Honda S2000 and a convertible based on the forthcoming Honda CR-Z coupé.

Acura, Honda’s US-market luxury rival for Infiniti and Lexus, has been hit hardest by the changes. Not only has it lost the NSX successor — due to be branded as an Acura but killed off last month — but the programme to develop new rear-drive cars aimed specifically at the BMW 3, 5 and 7-series has also been canned.

The basic planning on the cars had been carried out, and the first model to enter production was to be a BMW 7-series rival, due in 2015. It was meant to provide Honda with a credible alternative to established premium rear-drive brands. The future of the next Honda Legend is also in doubt.

Development of a new V8 engine for the rear-drive cars has also been stopped. The new Honda V8 was seen as the wrong engine at the wrong time, and it was opposed by some Honda engineers who viewed it as too big, heavy and unnecessary. Honda product planners have also had trouble figuring out how to make the engine cost-effective.

It’s not just big cars and big petrol engines that have been wiped out. The proposed drop-top version of the new Honda CR-Z hybrid coupe has been abandoned, along with any successor to the Honda S2000, which will die this year.

The current pair of Honda Accords (one for the US, one for the rest of the world) could also be replaced with a single model; that could save billions in development costs.

Honda is now concentrating on building more hybrids and a new small city car. It aims to build 500,000 hybrids by 2012, including the new Honda Insight and the world’s first hybrid supermini, a petrol-electric Honda Jazz due next year. It should be capable of 80mpg and emit just 90g/km of CO2.

At least there's still this, lol:

BlueEyes

Yes they are. It's a smart thing to do in tough economic times. Otherwise they'll become a Ford, GM, or Chrysler.

Gyro_Bot

No more S2000?!! no way!

Gulp.... if a car that good gets canned... what about other great cars. Like ours? or the next rotary?

I'm depressed about this. S2000 is a very fine sports car indeed!

SlowLude

The S2K has been out for a billion years. Its looks are getting dated and they've refined it so much there isn't anything left to refine. It's about time if you ask me.

blackenedwings

I'm not at all surprised but I am sad. With economy troubles and "green" movement, cars are going to pull all the excitement out of driving and focus on cheap affordable people carriers with higher MPG and lower emissions. Prius sales are still sky high despite the fact that people have to pay a premium to get them to "save" money on gas and they last for crap because of the batteries. The masses are retarded and car companies have to sell to the largest target market.

What makes me more depressed is that if Honda is doing this with their huge revenue stream from their already lucrative lines of affordable small cars, what is Mazda going to do? My dream of a new factory turbocharged rotary 2-seater coupe is probably on hold for a while. Oh well, guess it's a good thing my 8 is getting boosted. It should keep me plenty happy for years to come.

risky business

s2k has been scheduled for demise for a while. however, nsx and the v8 saddens me

DailyDriver2k5

Sad news indeed... The S2000 will definitely be missed by enthusiast all around the world. To bad Honda never got to debut the S2000 hardtop , they had some really nice concept renderings of the car.

alienRX8

It is very sad. I really like honda. I know I will prob get a bashing for this too but I love the civic Si and S2000. Sad to see the S2000 go. I would have never bought one probably cause I find its too small inside but I almost bought an Si. I really like how the motor feels. Its sad things like this are happening. I really hope the world's economy gets out of this hell hole its in and we dont see good cars dying because of it.

mryoshi

NSX saddens me... but I bet it will show its face again down the road when Economy and Honda picks back up, maybe with a new more fuel effiecient engine. S2000 meh its over rated.
I do fear that the RX-8 and the next rotary does not have a positive outlook as well. Fuel effieciency is going to be a very big deal from now on... I'd love to see Mazda take the RX and develope an electric car. I love the RX-8 but what I love most about it is its handling. Make it lighter and eco friendly! Hell if I had the $$ laying around I'd buy one with a blown engine and do electric conversion just for fun.

alienRX8

The day Mazda sells an RX with an electric motor and no rotor is the day i will vow not to buy mazda again. I HATE electric motors and they do not belong in a sports car. Go watch what the guys at Top Gear did to the Tesla, it sucks! Leave me with my petrol burning engine and I will be happy for life.

dozer

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alnielsen

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The NSX may not be dead after all.
http://www.worldcarfans.com/9081231....ar-is-not-dead
It seems that Honda has decided not to bring its new V10 supercar to market and will be continuing with a new NSX.
There is no mention about the V8 program or the S2000 in the press releases on page 2.

Razz1

It's a cancellation for two years.

Not terminated.

I'll be back.......

alienRX8

http://wot.motortrend.com/6431088/au...lon/index.html

check that link out, talks about a new s2000 concept

m477

If that's the case then they should just make it a point to mention that their plans as simply "on hold" for the time being.

It makes sense that they want to reduce expenses as much as possible during tough economic times, but using the word "cancelled" make it sound like they are totally giving up, which doesn't instill a lot of confidence in the car-buying public, which would only make their current problems worse.

JRichter

You beat me to it...


Exterior's fugly:

alienRX8

^^^^^looks almost the same except for maybe a few bulges here and there