missinmahseven

For me, it's a nobrainer.. ever since I was 14, I adored the Rx7, especially the tiny SA/FB cars.. and the ultra drop-dead-gorgeous FD.. but 14 was a looong time ago, and i"ve had many cars since, some of 'em blue-blood no-bullsh*t sportscars..

I found myself asking myself.."Self.. would you buy a 2500 pound 4-th gen Rx-7, or would you much rather have something truly hard-core yet eminently civilized.." I chose the latter..

Mazda, pretty please.. consider re-making the Cosmo Sport. Maybe the same length and width as a Miata, or a shade under, but since it'd be rotary, they can drop the hoodline and roofline to truly Cosmo Sport proportions.. hoodline just under my knees.. roofline just under my belt..

2 seats, a classic instrument panel, a 3-spoke wheel, and not much more.. just a 2000 pound car with 250 hp and a six-speed box..

Why not set the Lotus Elise as your target, Mazda, and make it for 30k?

I'd buy a new Cosmo Sport like that. In a heartbeat.

Would you?

For those who don't know,

:D

*this* is a Cosmo Sport, Mazda's first rotary car, and the one which set the tone for all other Mazda rotary sports cars since. This is what I want a modern version of, as small and light as possible, with the sheetmetal shrunk as tightly as possible, accomplishing with light weight and simplicity what more conventional engineers would accomplish with brute force and gizmos.

Of course, it'll never happen.. the market for a true wankel sports car is too limited, people want too much crap in their cars.. turbo this, cupholder that, power this...

Just gimme a tiny car, a snorty, zippy Wankel, a wheel, 2 seats, four huge brakes, a world-class suspension, and nothing more... :D

buzzardsluck

wasnt the cosmo 3 rotor? dont flame me (if im wrong) just asking a question thought i read somewhere that it was.

nbthing

Cosmo (~1990's) was 20b 3 rotor grand touring coupe
Cosmo Sport (~1960's) was 10A 2 rotor

In the spirit of this thread... I think I'd want Mazda to make:

A 4th Gen Rx-7....

AND (addressing missinmahseven's post)

A rotary engine option in the Miata (there have been rumors of this, and I hope Mazda follows through).

RX-Hachi

RX-7!!!

The future/dream Cosmo you're describing acutally sounds more like what the 4th gen RX-7 should be.

While the first Cosmo may have been a 2 seater sports car, the last gens in Japan were big near luxury GTs. The 7 is now the definitive rotary 2 seater sports car.

I maybe near middle aged, but I still think like a 14 year old. Guess that will make me 40 going on 14

rx8wannahave

I never heard of the Cosmo Sport...anyone know a good link to the history of the car? Like how it progressed over the years...what it looked like in all those years, etc.

Personally, I prefer 2+2 sports cars....at least till I get old and the chil-drens are gone, lol.

I also would like to see a new RX-7 (weigh about 2700 making at least 270HP) but would also like to see other rotary cars.

Mazda, the 8 is great...but would be better making 300HP and weighing 2900 pounds....pretty please.....with sugar on top!

missinmahseven

Cosmo Sport, straight from the horse's mouth.

As for a RE Miata, I disagree. Miata's too big and bulky, and so's the FE, FD, FC, FB/SA!

I'm talking *TINY* tiny, like Elise tiny, like Triumph TR3 tiny..

Like Cosmo Sport tiny. :D

Rasputin

I vote for a 20b GT Cosmo . And a RE Miata, with the std power / 5MT powertrain.

khtm

I'd consider either, but I doubt they'd come out with both

khtm

Wow the cosmo sport had a top speed of 200KM/h !! That's pretty crazy for the 60s. I think that's even faster than the AT 8

khtm

http://www.mazda.com/history/rotary/g2-9.html
Wow, I didn't know the RX-7 used to have four seats!!

rotarygod

How about the Cosmo 21 concept car from a couple of years ago? It was basically a Miata with a Renesis engine but a newly updated Cosmo Sport look. This car was cool looking. I would love to have seen this car. Scroll towards the bottom of the page.

http://cp_www.tripod.com/rotary/pg16.htm

khtm

^ dammmmn that is cool! :D P.I.M.P

Brandon

I think I saw in a R&T Salon article that it could get to 60 in 7.5 seconds as well.

nbthing

I'm sure this has been posted on here before, but since this thread is about old cosmo stuff, check out the vintage Cosmo Sport brochure:

http://keith.miata.net/110S/

Glyphon

haha! the brakes look like afterburners :D

missinmahseven

I went into a flashback just looking at that.. :D

I just realized -- in 2 years, it'll be the 40th anniversary of Mazda's first little Rotary Rocket.. 40 years of Mazda Wankels tearing up and down the roads, going 'mmmmmm' while everyone else is still going 'boing boing boing'

Man, if they *don't* have a 2-seater ready for sale in 2007, they just don't have any sense of style

One request, and if nothing else, please do this, Mazda.

Let that 2007 (if it happens) 2-place rotary rocket be white. The first Cosmo to roll off the line was white (most of 'em are white!), the first Rx-7 I saw was white, the 10th Anniv. Rx-7 was white..

The first of the new two-holers *must* be white!

missinmahseven

That one made a few magazines.. I love the look, but not the size..

The whole point of a rotary, from a packaging / engineering point of view, is that it's ridiculously tiny. Look how far back and down the Renesis sits in the 8.. allowing them to do some pretty wild things. Things you just couldn't do had it been a boinger up front..

The miata, as I have alluded before, is just too big. Frankly, I know I called the FB "tiny," and it was -- in comparison to the huge dinosaurs Detroit was still making when the SA/FB came out.. but it's huge compared to a miata, and a miata's huge when you see it next to en Elise or a TR-anything or an MGB or ... a Cosmo.

I saw a Cosmo in England, and it just made my eyeballs crash through my sunglassess.. I had never seen one in the sheetmetal, and boy, she took my breath away -- all of it. The top of the hood was below my knees. The top of the roof was below my belt! A bit taller than a Ferrari 308, but just about as tidy. About the size of an MGB or a TR-6 or an Austin Healy.

Had I any artistic skillz whatsoever, I'd put what I want on paper.. I know what I want, I just can't draw it :p

RX-Hachi

1st gen, 2nd gen and 3rd gen RX-7's were all offered with back seats in Japan.

mikeb

If a rx7 or skyline comes out I will trade my rx8 for it

therm8

124mph??? the AT 8 exceeds that in 3rd.

Ellar

Kinda looks like a Mazda Thunderbird.

alnielsen

iTrader: (4)

I once knew a guy that had access to a bench seat that would fit in the 1st gen RX7. It was only big enough for small children. He never bought it so I never got to see it.

khtm

Yes, but the AT 8 has a limiter. Fuel cuts off at 125 mph or something like that...