Camaro laps ring in 8:20
07-23-2008, 12:38 AM
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Camaro laps ring in 8:20
so this car is not bad at taking corners too, I'm impressed
http://www.autoblog.com/2008/07/22/c...-ring-in-8-20/
In this automotive day and age, any vehicle that has even a trace amount of performance in its DNA has to make the rounds around the Nurburgring. The new Chevy Camaro SS isn't exempt. So after GM revealed the Camaro on Monday, one of the scribes at InsideLine ran up to an engineer to find out what kind of time the Camaro put down at the Nordschleife. According to Doug Houlihan, GM's chief engineer for global rear-wheel-drive vehicles, the Camaro SS ran the 'Ring in 8:20.
To put that into perspective, the recently released 2008 Cobalt SS did the deed in 8:22, along with the BMW E46 M3 and the last generation BMW M Coupe, followed by the Lotus Exige S and Porsche Cayman S at 8:25.
Ed Welburn, GM'S veep of global design, concedes that the Camaro's shape is merely adequate from an aerodynamic standpoint, with a coefficient of drag on the SS of 0.35 and on the LS/LT models of 0.36 – largely a result of the recessed headlamps and full-width grille.
Houlihan went on to say that their time at the 'Ring allowed them to dial in the steering response and suspension settings, and that the StabiliTrak traction control system on the Camaro will be the best GM can offer. Settings on the SS model allow drivers to choose between track and performance modes, along with completely disabling the system. A launch control feature will also be available on the SS.
http://www.autoblog.com/2008/07/22/c...-ring-in-8-20/
In this automotive day and age, any vehicle that has even a trace amount of performance in its DNA has to make the rounds around the Nurburgring. The new Chevy Camaro SS isn't exempt. So after GM revealed the Camaro on Monday, one of the scribes at InsideLine ran up to an engineer to find out what kind of time the Camaro put down at the Nordschleife. According to Doug Houlihan, GM's chief engineer for global rear-wheel-drive vehicles, the Camaro SS ran the 'Ring in 8:20.
To put that into perspective, the recently released 2008 Cobalt SS did the deed in 8:22, along with the BMW E46 M3 and the last generation BMW M Coupe, followed by the Lotus Exige S and Porsche Cayman S at 8:25.
Ed Welburn, GM'S veep of global design, concedes that the Camaro's shape is merely adequate from an aerodynamic standpoint, with a coefficient of drag on the SS of 0.35 and on the LS/LT models of 0.36 – largely a result of the recessed headlamps and full-width grille.
Houlihan went on to say that their time at the 'Ring allowed them to dial in the steering response and suspension settings, and that the StabiliTrak traction control system on the Camaro will be the best GM can offer. Settings on the SS model allow drivers to choose between track and performance modes, along with completely disabling the system. A launch control feature will also be available on the SS.
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http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do...ticleId=125288
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Impressive time. Still don't know what to think of it though. I just hope the steering or the clutch aren't as terrible as the Corvette. The chassis dynamics are apparently bang on...
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Exige S mid-engine RWD 220hp, 165 Ft-lb TQ
Cobalt SS front engine FWD 260hp, 260 Ft-lb TQ
Exige S Curb Weight: 2077 lbs
Cobalt SS Curb Weight: 2975 lbs
Exige S 0-60 MPH: 4.2 seconds
Cobalt SS 0-60 MPH: 5.8 seconds
Exige S 1/4 mile: 12.8@105.5mph
Cobalt SS 1/4 mile: 14.0@103.6mph
Exige S 60-0 braking: 111 ft
Cobalt SS 60-0 braking: 115 ft
Exige S slalom speed: 74 mph
Cobalt SS slalom speed: 69.2 mph
Exige S skid pad: .96g
Cobalt SS skid pad: .89g
I HIGHLY question those lap times.
(sources for those numbers are edmunds inside line tests)
Exige S
Cobalt SS
07-23-2008, 04:44 PM
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Well, i have read test articles of drivers claiming the Cobalt SS is THE best handling production front wheel drive car out there right now. Even with the 260/260 i too wouldnt think it could best an Exige S but i wouldnt know that for sure, so...
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I HIGHLY question the sources and circumstances for the Exige S and Cayman S lap times.
Exige S mid-engine RWD 220hp, 165 Ft-lb TQ
Cobalt SS front engine FWD 260hp, 260 Ft-lb TQ
Exige S Curb Weight: 2077 lbs
Cobalt SS Curb Weight: 2975 lbs
Exige S 0-60 MPH: 4.2 seconds
Cobalt SS 0-60 MPH: 5.8 seconds
Exige S 1/4 mile: 12.8@105.5mph
Cobalt SS 1/4 mile: 14.0@103.6mph
Exige S 60-0 braking: 111 ft
Cobalt SS 60-0 braking: 115 ft
Exige S slalom speed: 74 mph
Cobalt SS slalom speed: 69.2 mph
Exige S skid pad: .96g
Cobalt SS skid pad: .89g
I HIGHLY question those lap times.
(sources for those numbers are edmunds inside line tests)
Exige S
Cobalt SS
Exige S mid-engine RWD 220hp, 165 Ft-lb TQ
Cobalt SS front engine FWD 260hp, 260 Ft-lb TQ
Exige S Curb Weight: 2077 lbs
Cobalt SS Curb Weight: 2975 lbs
Exige S 0-60 MPH: 4.2 seconds
Cobalt SS 0-60 MPH: 5.8 seconds
Exige S 1/4 mile: 12.8@105.5mph
Cobalt SS 1/4 mile: 14.0@103.6mph
Exige S 60-0 braking: 111 ft
Cobalt SS 60-0 braking: 115 ft
Exige S slalom speed: 74 mph
Cobalt SS slalom speed: 69.2 mph
Exige S skid pad: .96g
Cobalt SS skid pad: .89g
I HIGHLY question those lap times.
(sources for those numbers are edmunds inside line tests)
Exige S
Cobalt SS
and this posted on an Evo forum (so you do not know how accurate it really is):
Originally Posted by sblvro
found a recently updated list of Nurburgring Lap Records for production cars that are street legal.
7:26.4 - Chevrolet Corvette ZR1 <-- all hail the current king!
7:28 --- Porsche Carrera GT
7:29 --- Nissan GT-R R35 <-- how much faster will the V-Spec be?
7:31 --- Porsche 997 GT2
7:32 --- Pagani Zonda F
7:34 --- Koenigsegg CCR
7:36 --- Mercedes SL63 AMG Black Series
7:37 --- Honda NSX test mule <-- Honda CEO demands fastest lap record
7:38 --- Mercedes SLR 722 GT
7.39 --- Ferrari 430 Scuderia
7.39 --- Porsche 997 GT3
7:40 --- Bugatti 16/4 Veyron <-- 1001hp but weight matters on the Ring
7:40 --- Lamborghini Murcielago LP640
7:40 --- Mercedes Benz CLK DTM AMG
7:40 --- Mercedes Benz SLR
7:42 --- Ford GT
7:42 --- Porsche 997 GT3 RS
7:42.9 - Chevrolet Corvette Z06
7:43 --- Porsche 996 GT3 RS
7:43.5 - Lamborghini Murcielago
7:44 --- Pagani Zonda C12 S
7:45 --- Mercedes CLK 63 AMG Black Series
7:45 --- McLaren F1
7:46 --- Jaguar XJ220
7:46 --- Lamborghini Gallardo Superleggera
7:46 --- Porsche 996 GT2
7:47 --- Ferrari 599 GTB Fiorano
7.49 --- Porsche 996 GT3
7:50 --- BMW E46 M3 CSL
7:50 --- Porsche 997 Carrera S
7:52 --- Lamborghini Gallardo
7:54 --- Porsche 997 Turbo
7:54 --- Porsche 993 GT3
7:55 --- Ferrari F430 F1
7:56 --- Ferrari 360 Challenge Stradale
7:56 --- Porsche 996 Turbo
7:56.7 - Honda NSX Type R
7:58 --- Audi RS4 <-- fastest 4 door sedan record
7:59 --- Porsche 997
7:59 --- Chevrolet C6 Z51
7:59 --- Nissan Skyline R33 GT-R
7:59.2 - Cadillac CTS-V
8:01.8 - Lamborghini Gallardo Spyder
8:03.8 - Honda NSX
8:04 --- Audi R8
8:04 --- Lamborghini Diablo GT
8:05 --- BMW M3 V8
8:05 --- Ferrari 575M Maranello F1
8:05 --- Ruf CTR
8:06 --- Mercedes Benz SL55 AMG
8:06 --- Subaru WRX Sti Spec C
8:07 --- Ferrari 550 Maranello
8:07.7 - BMW M6
8:08.7 - Porsche 993 Turbo
8:09 --- Ferrari 360 Modena
8:10 --- Aston Martin V8 Vantage
8:10 --- Dodge Viper GTS
8:11 --- Mitsubishi Lancer Evo IX <-- have to highlight the Evo!
8:11 --- Porsche Cayman S
8:13 --- BMW M5
8:13 --- Lotus Esprit
8:13 --- Dodge Viper SRT-10
8:14 --- Mercedes SLK 55 AMG Black Series
8:14 --- Mitsubishi Evo VIII GSR
8:15 --- BMW Z4 M Roadster
8:15 --- Porsche 997 Carrera 2
8:16 --- Aston Martin DB9
8:17 --- Aston Martin Vanquish
8:17 --- Renault R26.R <-- fastest FWD record
8:18 --- BMW Z8
8:18 --- Ferrari F355
8:20 --- Audi RS6
8:20 --- BMW M3 E36
8:20 --- Camaro SS (2010)
8:22 --- BMW M3 E46
8:22 --- BMW M Coupe
8:22 --- Mercedes-Benz C55
8:22.3 - Nissan Skyline R32 GT-R
8:22.8 - Chevrolet Cobalt SS
8:23 --- Aston Martin DB7 GT
8:23 --- Porsche Boxster S
8:23 --- Porsche 996 Carrera 4
8:24 --- Audi S5
8:24 --- Subaru Impreza WRX STi
8:25 --- Lotus Exige S
8:25 --- Mitsubishi Evo VI
8:25 --- Mitsubishi Evo VII
8:26 --- BMW 335i Coupé
8:26 --- Mercedes Benz SLK 32 AMG
8:26 --- Nissan 350Z
8:28 --- BMW E49 M5
8:29 --- Mercedes Benz CLK 55 AMG
8:31 --- 2006 Cadillac STS-V
8:32 --- BMW Z4 3.0 SMG
8:32 --- Lotus Exige
8:32 --- Volkswagen Golf R32 Mk IV
8:35 --- BMW 130i
8:35 --- BMW M3 SMG E36
8:36 --- Porsche Boxster
8:37 --- Mercedes Benz C32 AMG
8:39 --- Honda S2000
8:39 --- Mazdaspeed3
8:39.2 - BMW 135i
8:40 --- Audi TT 2.0 TFSU
8:40 --- Cadillac CTS
8:42 --- Audi TT 1.8 Quattro
8:43 --- Honda Integra Type R
8:43.5 - Chevrolet HHR SS
8:47 --- Honda Civic Type-R
8:50 --- Mercedes Benz E55 AMG
8:52 --- VW Golf GTI DSG
8:54 --- VW Golf GTI 25th Anniversary
8:55 --- Mini Cooper S Works
7:26.4 - Chevrolet Corvette ZR1 <-- all hail the current king!
7:28 --- Porsche Carrera GT
7:29 --- Nissan GT-R R35 <-- how much faster will the V-Spec be?
7:31 --- Porsche 997 GT2
7:32 --- Pagani Zonda F
7:34 --- Koenigsegg CCR
7:36 --- Mercedes SL63 AMG Black Series
7:37 --- Honda NSX test mule <-- Honda CEO demands fastest lap record
7:38 --- Mercedes SLR 722 GT
7.39 --- Ferrari 430 Scuderia
7.39 --- Porsche 997 GT3
7:40 --- Bugatti 16/4 Veyron <-- 1001hp but weight matters on the Ring
7:40 --- Lamborghini Murcielago LP640
7:40 --- Mercedes Benz CLK DTM AMG
7:40 --- Mercedes Benz SLR
7:42 --- Ford GT
7:42 --- Porsche 997 GT3 RS
7:42.9 - Chevrolet Corvette Z06
7:43 --- Porsche 996 GT3 RS
7:43.5 - Lamborghini Murcielago
7:44 --- Pagani Zonda C12 S
7:45 --- Mercedes CLK 63 AMG Black Series
7:45 --- McLaren F1
7:46 --- Jaguar XJ220
7:46 --- Lamborghini Gallardo Superleggera
7:46 --- Porsche 996 GT2
7:47 --- Ferrari 599 GTB Fiorano
7.49 --- Porsche 996 GT3
7:50 --- BMW E46 M3 CSL
7:50 --- Porsche 997 Carrera S
7:52 --- Lamborghini Gallardo
7:54 --- Porsche 997 Turbo
7:54 --- Porsche 993 GT3
7:55 --- Ferrari F430 F1
7:56 --- Ferrari 360 Challenge Stradale
7:56 --- Porsche 996 Turbo
7:56.7 - Honda NSX Type R
7:58 --- Audi RS4 <-- fastest 4 door sedan record
7:59 --- Porsche 997
7:59 --- Chevrolet C6 Z51
7:59 --- Nissan Skyline R33 GT-R
7:59.2 - Cadillac CTS-V
8:01.8 - Lamborghini Gallardo Spyder
8:03.8 - Honda NSX
8:04 --- Audi R8
8:04 --- Lamborghini Diablo GT
8:05 --- BMW M3 V8
8:05 --- Ferrari 575M Maranello F1
8:05 --- Ruf CTR
8:06 --- Mercedes Benz SL55 AMG
8:06 --- Subaru WRX Sti Spec C
8:07 --- Ferrari 550 Maranello
8:07.7 - BMW M6
8:08.7 - Porsche 993 Turbo
8:09 --- Ferrari 360 Modena
8:10 --- Aston Martin V8 Vantage
8:10 --- Dodge Viper GTS
8:11 --- Mitsubishi Lancer Evo IX <-- have to highlight the Evo!
8:11 --- Porsche Cayman S
8:13 --- BMW M5
8:13 --- Lotus Esprit
8:13 --- Dodge Viper SRT-10
8:14 --- Mercedes SLK 55 AMG Black Series
8:14 --- Mitsubishi Evo VIII GSR
8:15 --- BMW Z4 M Roadster
8:15 --- Porsche 997 Carrera 2
8:16 --- Aston Martin DB9
8:17 --- Aston Martin Vanquish
8:17 --- Renault R26.R <-- fastest FWD record
8:18 --- BMW Z8
8:18 --- Ferrari F355
8:20 --- Audi RS6
8:20 --- BMW M3 E36
8:20 --- Camaro SS (2010)
8:22 --- BMW M3 E46
8:22 --- BMW M Coupe
8:22 --- Mercedes-Benz C55
8:22.3 - Nissan Skyline R32 GT-R
8:22.8 - Chevrolet Cobalt SS
8:23 --- Aston Martin DB7 GT
8:23 --- Porsche Boxster S
8:23 --- Porsche 996 Carrera 4
8:24 --- Audi S5
8:24 --- Subaru Impreza WRX STi
8:25 --- Lotus Exige S
8:25 --- Mitsubishi Evo VI
8:25 --- Mitsubishi Evo VII
8:26 --- BMW 335i Coupé
8:26 --- Mercedes Benz SLK 32 AMG
8:26 --- Nissan 350Z
8:28 --- BMW E49 M5
8:29 --- Mercedes Benz CLK 55 AMG
8:31 --- 2006 Cadillac STS-V
8:32 --- BMW Z4 3.0 SMG
8:32 --- Lotus Exige
8:32 --- Volkswagen Golf R32 Mk IV
8:35 --- BMW 130i
8:35 --- BMW M3 SMG E36
8:36 --- Porsche Boxster
8:37 --- Mercedes Benz C32 AMG
8:39 --- Honda S2000
8:39 --- Mazdaspeed3
8:39.2 - BMW 135i
8:40 --- Audi TT 2.0 TFSU
8:40 --- Cadillac CTS
8:42 --- Audi TT 1.8 Quattro
8:43 --- Honda Integra Type R
8:43.5 - Chevrolet HHR SS
8:47 --- Honda Civic Type-R
8:50 --- Mercedes Benz E55 AMG
8:52 --- VW Golf GTI DSG
8:54 --- VW Golf GTI 25th Anniversary
8:55 --- Mini Cooper S Works
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