playdoh43

http://forums.nicoclub.com/zerothread/260025

Icemark

Hmm, first it is motor trend, 2nd they chose automatics??? What is up with that?

playdoh43

the article sounds pretty biased also

ChuLooz

yea, i also found their explaination for choosing automatics to be foolish, and the title doesn't reflect the article much at all, they made it seem as if the bimmer was destroyed by the G37 while the last paragraph pretty much calls it a tie. wasn't that easy to read either, they were always going back and forth, i couldn't tell which car they were babbleing about.

Ajax

what blows my mind is the fact that the 335i comes with twin turbos and no oil coolers by default. that's just asking for problems.

therm8

Well a vast majority of either car sold will be in AT trim. I'd say, choosing autos is more of a real world comparo. Someone else will do MT vs MT. Kind of slow times given the power levels. Peak power ain't everything I guess .

map

This is one of those articles that people are going to look back on in a year or two and say they got it wrong. There were already some articles like this when the sedans came out that have been discredited by subsequent tests. The mags just can't wait to claim the 3 series a loser to create some shock value. Maybe it's the power trip they get by being the one to proclaim the king is dead.

This was also the first time I've seen a 335 with a 0-60 over 5 seconds in test, even for automatic.

9291150

^ I got no problems believing the G37 was better. Though at nearly 3800 pounds, it certainly is loosing the sport side of the equation.

saturn

I hate MotorTrend so much. They don't even care about cars anymore -- they are just trying to sell magazines. They make this bold claim on the cover and then don't really back it up IMO. The BMW still has much more punch and that costs money.

I don't know how anyone can use the paddles when they're fixed like on the Infiniti.

I'm am still very underwhelmed by both cars' interiors. They are just so boring. The G35 looks (and is) so heavy and has such a basic shape that it gets boring after you see it 4,000 times on the road. They've made it worse in the new model too.

Oh well, I guess it's pretty clear that I'm way outside the demographic for these cars.

Rotary Rasp

iTrader: (2)

if you look at the specs on last page, you'll see the bmw wins in every thing.

300ft-lbs @ 1400rpm!!!

Broker73

Hi guys....I sold my 8 about 4mths ago...and took delivery of a 335i Sedan with Sport and Premium package 2 weeks ago....as much as I miss the handling of the 8, the 335 puts a smile on my face very time I get in with sport package, it handles great, and put it in sport mode and it makes the daily drive more than a little fun as it keeps the rpms a little higher with nice crisp shifts! So much low end torque that I forgot how much I missed it.

I have driven a 07 g35, but not the new g37.....I am obviously bias, but the fit and finish, stereo and performance etc in the 335 is a step above the g35...but like I said, I haven't spent any time in the new model, but I know I would still choose the 335! Just my personal opinion.

Trust me when I tell you BMW understated the performance of this car....I have the Auto with Paddle shift....on the weekend I had a early 2000 M5 follow me until we were heading out of the city. At a set of lights he pulls up beside me to get a look at the car, gives the wave etc....this is a road that leads out to highway 2....he punches it and I simply floor it...believe it or not, all the way up to highway speeds (maybe a little more :} ) he is right beside me......I looked up the numbers for the 2002M5's and they are in the 13.4range in the 1/4! and manual....

Bottom line, I am sure the new g37 is a good car, but I'd beg to differ on this article..but being a 335 owner what am I suppose to say

canaryrx8

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I got to drive some bimmers yesterday for a charity event, one of which was the 335, I find it insanely hard to read that article and buy what they're saying after driving it. Regardless of what they printed, the weather here has been shitty, and despite the crap conditions and only getting to drive it on regular roads for a brief time I loved it, that car had plenty of power, handled well, and the build quality was awesome. Auto or not that is one fantastic car regardless of what the idiots at mt say.

2tone

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I used to work for bmw and got to drive the 335 sedan, coupe, and hard-top conv before they were out - they are definitely fast. max torque is below 1500 rpm! bmw still sticks to their claim of 0-60 in 5.3 but many mags post as low as 4.9. supposedly they're understating so at not to **** off m3 owners! either way, it's fast, and with a sport package like broker73 got, it'll handle pretty frickin' well too.

Design1stCode2nd

What will really be interesting is the 135i, just think of a lighter 335i for less money. Whats not to love?

canaryrx8

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the price?

Feras

iTrader: (1)

the 335 will spank any G class i've ever heard of or driven, even with my biases ( idrive a 6sp 335 half the time) the g is more piggish and not as torquey. Even with all the low end torque the 335 still puts it to the road like a champion because it is. Someone at motor trend can't drive.

Cito

Would it be too much to ask for a limited slip differential for 50k? BMW apparently thinks so. What a crock. They offer it in the 20k dollar mini, but not their best car. It is a major weakness for the car especially if one has any sporting aspirations. The g37 is a better buy, but probably not a better car.

Feras

iTrader: (1)

just for posterity the 6speed does come with an oil cooler (but i must say 5-10 minutes of spirited driving still puts the temp up to 230-240 degrees.)


btw Cito the 335 is not BMWs best car, that starts with a 6, 7, M or a Z depending on what criteria you use.

Ajax

Damn. That's still hot!
I hate the Z cars after the Z3 (so like.. most of them)..

Feras

iTrader: (1)

i was thinking more like Z8 than 3 or 4

Cito

The M3 would be their best car, but it is not out yet. The M5 is overrated and overpriced, the six is an overweight pos, the 7 is a nice but ugly car, ditto the Z.

The 3 series is the only BMW I would consider buying, but of course this is all my own opinion and I understand that others don't agree.

It is still very stupid that the 335 doesn't have a limited slip differential. All of the good things about the car don't really matter to me because of that.

Feras

iTrader: (1)

my only response to that is have ya driven one to decide that not having an LSD is the end all of that car. It handles quite nicely even without it and accelerating through turns is no problem with the bmw dts and active steering. Seriously you'd have to be a little more than an enthusiast to really notice the difference and if matters that much instead of letting bmw charge ya 2k extra to put an LSD in put one in yourself for half that.

map

The fact that it's hideously ugly. And I'm one of the people that like the look of the new 3 series!

Ajax

I don't really care for the Z8 either.. I don't know what it is about the Z cars.. I actually really liked the original Z3, but after that, I think they totally screwed it up.
Oh well.. That's my opinion...

350zFan

Well, inspite the love for the G37, I'm not dumb enough to think it can outperform the 335i even in stock form.
Comparing the two, the only edge I can honestly give the G37 is interior design (not quality, but design -- I somehow find the BMW interior incredibly dated and boring) and obviously value.
Exterior looks is completely subjective - I personally like the G37 looks (yeah a little mixed compared to the G35, but it maintains a sporty/aggressive appearance)..
The 335coupe is a bit bland but it looks classy. The sedan however I think it has unforuntately been diluted by the lower models of the bmws (you know, the cheaper ones that you 80% on the streets) and just doesn't turn my head.