crimson-rain

Ok everybody, there is a moster of a car coming soon to make it's world wide debut and there isn't a suby or Evo that can touch it.

But, in the midst of it all I'm wondering what everyone thinks about this "mystery car". There have been various photos on the net of a G35 with flared fenders and e- looongated rear bumper on the Nurburing. There has been a concept vehicle shown a LOOOOONG time ago at the Tokyo Auto Salon. But no one has shown a production model yet. It seems to me that considering the time it is coming out, supposedly in 2006 as a 2007 model Infiniti ( ), that it would have been shown at some auto show by now. I haven't found a confirmation of the engine (VQ30TT, VQ36TT, VQ45TT, VQdamnfastTT, etc.) either. I did find out that it will be AWD using an upgraded version of ALTESSA. It also won't have the HICCAS steering trick (don't much about this system but supposedly it uses all 4 wheels to turn the car).

Anyway, this car is GOING to be sick.

Would do you all think of the return of a car that pretty much represents Japan when it comes to performance cars?

zoom44

i dont care

Mugatu

iTrader: (1)

hard to say something about a car in which no one know what it looks like, what engine it will have, and any specs/numbers it can produce.

that's like asking what we think of the new Supra.

BlueEyes

I think it's pretty funny that you claim that there is no "suby or Evo that can touch it" when you know nothing about the car. Sounds like something a fanbois would do.

XDEEDUBBX

The 2009 RX8 will come with 452hp with 400lb of torque...sorry but no pics...hahaha thats all the info i have..hahaha

JanSolo

Here is some info from GTR Forums.

http://forums.gtrforums.com/showthread.php?t=12


From Autoweek:
Meanwhile the car Nissan chief Carlos Ghosn has promised in time for the 2007 Tokyo motor show - the Skyline GT-R - appears to be running through its paces in the form of a super-powered, special-bodied Infiniti G35 Coupe. The all-wheel-drive Skyline will be powered by a 450hp, twin-turbocharged V6 engine, with suspension tuned by Lotus engineers.

Other sources:

2005 GT-R Concept
source: REZZ

After 3 solid years of speculation, CG concepts by Nissan design teams – not to mention the plethora of CG images produced by Nissan fans - we will get the final word from Nissan boss Carlos Ghosn regarding the Next GT-R. The 39th Tokyo Motor Show (Oct 19 – Nov 6, 2005) will be the venue where all the speculation and rumors stop when the 2005 GT-R Concept vehicle is uncovered.

Without a doubt the main feature at the 39th Tokyo Motor Show will be the Next GT-R. No other single vehicle has caused as much hype amongst the international Nissan fan base as this car. Nissan have been watching the international reaction to various rumors, spy photos, concept drawings and the like, and will take it upon themselves to officially state the Next GT-R’s design, new components and capabilities, aim of the car, and price. Nissan may even answer the question that’s confused a number of enthusiasts up until now: the chassis designation. Whether it’s UA-CPV35 GT-R, or due to the ’07 release date, UA-CPV36 GT-R, or another chassis code altogether, Nissan will need to explain why, if the GT-R is to drop it’s connection with the Skyline, would they need to incorporate the Skyline’s traditional four round tail lights.

Sources in Japan have already scooped the Next GT-R’s FR transaxle, twin motor-assisted turbos and ‘e-4WD’ – drive to the front wheels provided by electric motors powered by Lithium batteries. All these mechanisms are unique to the Next GT-R and will lead the way for other car manufacturers to make use of such technological advances in their own vehicle line-ups. One hotly contested feature of the Next GT-R is it’s rumored engine, the VQ32DETT. International speculation has sprouted all sorts of configurations: N/A and turbo V8’s, large capacity V6’s, even rebirth of the legendary RB26DETT. But no other engine configuration has been quoted more times in Japan than the 3.2 liter V6 twin turbo.

The rumored VQ32DETT engine has been developed in conjunction with Cosworth (UK) and the basic design of the V6 twin turbo – in 3.0 liter guise - has seen two full seasons already in the Japanese JGTC (Japan GT Championship) racing series, which VQ powered cars have won consecutively in the last two years. The rigors of JGTC racing and advances in turbo design should put to rest any doubts about a twin turbo V6 configuration not being able to withstand the treatment expected from a US market not familiar with a top level performance turbo offering from Nissan. The concern over how the US market would receive a medium capacity V6 turbo powered GT car from Nissan has brought forth all kinds of rumored engine configurations, none of which have had any mention within the Japanese media for at least two years. It seems practically all the rumors regarding engines other than the VQ32DETT have originated from the very market that is concerned about the reliability of a turbo V6 powered GT car from Nissan (or in the North American market, Infiniti) as opposed to the supposedly better reliability a larger capacity naturally aspirated engine of similar output could offer.

Much importance has been placed on the effective use of underbody aerodynamics, as well as keeping a clean, muscular shape devoid of any large spoilers which were such a signature of the superseded R34 Skyline GT-R. 20-inch alloy wheels and a mix of carbon fiber (bonnet, seat frames, drive shafts, rear diffusers) and aluminum (roof, door panels, rear tailgate) will also feature on a car that is every bit as exotic as it is technologically advanced. The disappointment felt by Japanese Nissan enthusiasts about the controversial tail lights of the V35 Skyline Sedan upon it’s release back in 2001 – no trademark circular lights or ‘hotplates’ – has seen Nissan make a complete about face… even releasing the V35 Skyline Sedan Series II with circular LED arrays to try and convince the Japanese domestic market that they haven’t forsaken the Skyline heritage. What this means is that despite the multitude of CG images gracing the internet and magazines all sporting slightly weak attempts at ‘hotplate’ tail light designs, the Next GT-R will definitely include the four round tail lights that have become the defining feature of the GT-R since the early 1970’s… even though Carlos Ghosn has hinted that the Next GT-R won’t be associated with the Skyline range anymore.

The motto of the Next GT-R that has been thrown around more than a few times amongst the Japanese media is ‘More Super-Sports than you can imagine’. You can be sure that Nissan won’t disappoint this time around, as so many Nissan enthusiasts in Japan have expressed their disapproval of the 2001 Tokyo Motor Show Concept GT-R. Look for more details to come to light as October approaches straight from Japan… so it certainly will be an exciting year for GT-R enthusiasts the world over. Expect to see the Next GT-R released in December 2007.

crimson-rain

My bad folks. Flame on!!!!!!!!!

Maybe I should rephase this question:
Speculated info -
Getrag 7-spd sequential gearbox
3.2L Twin Turbo(electric-assisted)
expected output: 480ps @ 7,200rpm

some article:
http://www.edmunds.com/future/2007/i...h..future..3.*

pic:
http://www.edmunds.com/future/2007/i...33/photos.html

Oh well, I figured I would "speculate" since we've all "speculated" about the new RX-7 and the MS RX-8 and other cars they could race and what they would compare to .......

As far as Evo and Suby touching the Skyline; they haven't made any to touch the current Skylines. Fanbois? Yes. The car is technically and visually beautiful IMO.

JanSolo

Right now, if you have 170k spare and get on the waiting list, you can get yourself a GTR34 Z Tune.

http://www.caranddriver.com/article....&page_number=1

Unveiled at the Tokyo Auto Salon this week, the 500hp GT-R Z-tune is not only the most powerful GT-R ever, but at $170,000, it’s also the most expensive. Why did they make it? Simple. To show what's possible. And when we hinted at any relation to the next generation GT-R due in 2007, Nismo staffers started sucking through their teeth and looking skywards. One thing is for sure. The 2007 GT-R's sticker price will be around half that of the Z-tune but pump out nearly as much power. Leaning heavily on 15 years of racing experience with the R-32, R-33 and R-34 GT-R’s, Nismo engineers have created the mother of all GT-R’s.

crimson-rain

Thanks JanSolo.

khtm

Wonder how heavy it will be, being AWD and all...

crimson-rain

Z-tuned R34. 10 sec production car. JGTC spec engine and it IS totally streetable. Sports Compact did an article on it. It was fittingly called "King".

crimson-rain

I think they said there would be a lot of carbon fiber composites used for the body. I wouldn't be surprised. The R34 is no lightweight, but its weight is placed in all the right spots.

crimson-rain

I think they said there would be a lot of carbon fiber composites used for the body. I wouldn't be surprised if it's still kind of heavy though. The R34 is no lightweight, but its weight is placed in all the right spots.

BlueEyes

From the readings posted, this sounds like it will be in corvette price range. That's just the feeling I get, with mention of cf and whatnot. If that is the case, I wouldn't expect cars half the price to compete. Im looking forward to it anyhow. I like some of those concepts posted in the forum link, especially this one, although it kinda looks like that new audi super car.

GotBass

here are some pics. I guy I know sells infinitis and he said theat the rumor is that it will be around $70,000.

http://www.autoweek.com/article.cms?articleId=102460

BlueEyes

also, i didnt see any mention of the awd system. I hope it is along the lines of the STi's, that is, adjustable. IIRC correctly you can split the STi power to 10/90 F/R, maybe i just made that up, i don't know, either way I want manual adjustments.

BlueEyes

See, I couldn't see myself paying 70K for something that looks like that. it's a G35 with a wing, nothing special. I would hope they would be a bit more aggresive with their styling, it's supposed to be a muscular car, that says girlie man to me.

JanSolo

DCCD on the STi is a clone of AYC/ACD from the Evo. But, lucky 05 Evo owners get ACD, whereas no one in the states get AYC whatsoever. Subaru even copied Mitsu creating the vortex generator on the Evo MR by creating something similar on the 06 STi.

Sorry for being off topic.

So much speculation and very few facts on the new Skyline. It's almost as bad as all the hype surrounding the theoretical release of the RX7, which we have even less info about.

Kel Rx8

infinity cars loose value quick.

m477

There's gonna be a LOT of dissapointed fanboys when the finally do announce it. The whole GT-R mystique is based on 3 things:

1) It was so much faster than everything else when it came back (in 1989)
2) The RB26DETT could be modified to make huge huge HP (although it took tens of thousands of dollars)
3) It was JDM-only

As for 1), the competition is so much higher these days. In fact, I'll bet that the Evo 9 will beat the new GT-R in most performance categories.

Then, the aluminum-block V-6 isn't going to have the mod potential of the old cast-iron I-6, so 2) won't be true anymore.

cretinx

skylines have always used electronic AWD that starts out 90 rear/10 front and can distribute up to 65 rear/35 front for enhanced traction, but always a RWD bias.

khtm

^ what he said.

Thetitanium8

I would still rather have TT supra :D

shaolin

hey knucklehead, it's ATTESA-ETS

Advanced Total Traction Engineering System for All - Electronic Torque Split

Fanman

Can't see paying 2X the price of the G35 for essentially a G35 on steroids. No matter how much hp it has. The Z tune even though it is rated close to this model is WAY, WAY underrated. No way you are running 10.6's with ONLY 500-550 hp.