timmyx1

here is my problem i have exaclty 19500 saved from my new car including my payed off trade in. i have been saving for about a year now.

I have loved rotories since i was in high school and wanted a 2nd gen rx-7 turbo 2

but then fell in love with evo5s up till evo8s

i cant decide what to do anymore get an 05 rx8 at the end of the season to get a great deal on it, or wait until the 06 evo9s come out that increase the trubo size added mivec (variable valve timing for those not knowleged about mitsu,) leather interior standerard 6pd manual standard on gsr as well as the bilstien suspension from the evo mrs.

obviosly there is a significant price difference being that the o6 evo will go for at least 3500 and u can get an 05 rx8 with touring package after rebaits at the end of the year for around 28000.

the hp numbers for the 06 evo9 where tested at 280 a small increase but offers better acceleration in low to high rpms do to mivec.

rx8 we all know the numbers here.

for 7000 i could easily get ssrs turbo kit and have money left over to spend. but im thinking after the turbo kit what is the performance gap between them going to look like. its rwd vs awd but the rx8 is very well balanced.

im at a stand still what do u guys think. in an unbiased opinion.

dmp

these kinds of posts kill me....unless we know you, we can't suppose to know what you'd be more happy with.

You've clearly researched...now just make a decision and don't look back. Simple.

Ike

Do you want a more raw performance car or do you want a compromise between performance and refinement?

As for some of the changes on the Evo... the cloth Recaros are the best seats I've ever sat in in a production car so I hope the leather seats are almosr as good. The 6 speed doesn't seem to be as well suited on the current Evo as the 5 speed is, maybe it'll be different for the Evo 9.

cretinx

All depends on what you're using the car for, what handling characteristics you like, if you can live with a 40 foot turning radius (one of the main reasons I got rid of my AWD 4G63 Mitsu), whether you like style and comfort or having an ugly 4-door, and whether speed is the main concern.

cas2themoe

All depends on what your looking for. Pure Beast Performance or Performance w/looks. Drive and see! Everyone has their own judgement.

timmyx1

lol thanks for ur post, i dont think i can just make a decision and not look back... considering that im not rich and say well i dont like it so ill just get something else...

i have test drove a evo8 and an rx8 loved things about both didnt like things about both... now what i really want to do is test drive someones turboed rx8 that would seal the deal on my desision...

i have to wait anyway to get the best deal on an rx8 or an evo9 so maybe by that time i'll have had a chance to get in and drive someones turboed rx8...

so other concerns that i have with rx8 is the engine being able to handle boost over long periods of time with proper tuning. as the 4g63 engine in the evo is a proven bullet proof engine being used in cars for 10+ years

timmyx1

its very difficult becuase i dont want just speed. i want something that is well balanced the evo is a well balanced car in speen and handling being that it is awd and has the acd.

the rx8 is extreamly well balanced as a car handling wise in its stock condition but screems for more power as i said i was and original lover of rx-7s. im wondering what a turbo+ suspension will do for the rx8 compaired to an evo

interior wise hands down rx8 but after market audio is kind of an issue as i like the pioneer avic n1.

i know everyone would like some more power for the rx8 but u know they say when u have too much power the car controls u...

Slims8

You are in a very biased environment. But if you honestly want to know what I think, go with the 8. After you drive it you will say that there is no car that compares to it. It may not be faster or quicker or whatever else... it's just unexplainable.

Bottom line, if you think you might not want to buy one, don't drive it. I did and I had to have one.

timmyx1

i have test drove both thats the thing like both and hate some things about both the only thing that leans me over to the rx8 more is the price tag...

Slims8

Hell, flip a quarter and end the stress!

Rotario

I see this "Evo vs RX-8" stuff all the time. An ugly, 4-door econobox-looking car versus the sexy lines and totally compelling curb appeal of the RX-8. I guess if straight-line acceleration is all that matters, then the Evo wins. If anything, and I do mean anything else matters (like handling, appearance, jealousy-laden stares, etc. etc.), then I can't fathom where the question even comes into play.

Just my $0.02,
Bill

BlueEyes

hahahhah *breath* hahahaha.

-Dude, looks are subjective and the 8 isn't half as good looking as you are making it out to be IMO. It's above average, that's about it IMO. And no, I don't think the evo is particularily attractive.
-The Evo will embarass the 8 in most performance tests including handling, it's not a drag car.
-I don't know who gives you jealousy laden stares, maybe teenagers and young girls, it's only an 8 man get over it.

Slims8

Like you said... it's subjective. In MY HONEST OPINION, I believe the 8 is one of the if not the most beautiful car's even close to it's price range. I would not trade my car for another one. If I do get rid of it I will get another one or a truck (have considered a Dodge Magnum). But, that's must my 2 pennies.

BlueEyes

Oh I agree, for the price there are not too many new cars out there which compare. Dude just makes it seem like the 8 is the greatest looking car ever penned and that people dream of catching a glimpse of it in the flesh.

StewC625

The EVO is one harsh, nasty car. Yes, it's faster than ****. It also rides like a vibratory asphalt compactor, tramlines like there is no tomorrow (as in, on the highway it has no idea where straight ahead is - you can NEVER take your hands off the steering wheel for an instant in that car), sets a new standard for NVH (noise, vibration and harshness) from the engine, and is uglier than a mud fence.

Other than that, I think it's a wonderful car.

If you're going to spend every day on the race track, take the EVO. If you're going to drive your car in the real world every day, I wouldn't recommend it. I'm not saying the RX-8 is the answer either (although it is for me), but the EVO is a tough car to live with every day.

Slims8

Yeah, I know what you meant. I guess I'm a little too proud of mine too! :D

Rotario

From your post, it would appear that reading comprehension is purely subjective too. Amazing.

timmyx1

well the 06 evo will come with biltiens suspension that is 30% softer and handles better also alot nicer for ur *** and those daily drives...

exterior apperence is subjective to personal preference so i personaly like both cars exteriors. performance wise the evo will destroy the 8 but with a few mods im hoping it would come close. interior the 8 hands down. base line price the 8 has it beat.

but what im looking for in the rx8 is handling and power close to the evo i know ill never get the same handling cause the 06 evo tracks 4 sec faster then the 05 evo mr..

so what im saying is i want turbo for rx8 with a suspension to handle that power.

for the evo i would leave it stock for a while with the exception of an exhaust and a sick *** wide body kit made my apr... if u guys have ever seen it as much as u might hate evos its a sexy *** evo

StewC625

I'm curious Timmy:

Is your shift key broken? I can't even read your post. Please post in English, not "instant message" language.

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Separately, I hadn't heard about the new suspension in the 06 EVO - that should help it a lot - and yes, looks are subjective. When I see an EVO all I see is an econobox Lancer. When I see a WRX, all I see is an econobox Impreza.

Because the RX-8 is not a derivitive of anything, it's looks are completely unique.

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Ok, I was able to read "sexy *** EVO" ... is that like Janet Reno in fishnets and lace? YIKES.

A widebody kit on that car would just make it look that much more like a refugee from the parts store.

Ike

You're such an angry little man Stewie, what's with all the bitterness? Lastly, your Janet Reno and parts store joke was mildly amusing the first time, it's time to get a new schtick.

cas2themoe

I'm canceling the people who own 350Z, EVO, STI, S2000, G35's because the ones that say the RX8 is ugly are saying it just despite. To everyone else I've talked to who don't own cars like these, I'm yet to find someone say the RX8 is nothing but a Master Piece. Everyone and I mean Everyone, loves the way the RX8 looks! POINT BLANK! When I see a good looking car, I acknowledge it. The EVO is not that! The 350Z, S2000, G35, are beautiful cars.

Captain Amazing

Get the RX-8 and turbo it

BlueEyes

I already made my feelings noted. The Rx8 is above average, I don't own any of your above listed cars either. It is a good looking car, but far far from a Master piece.
This is a Master piece of automotive design.

timmyx1

For your sake i will post in English. 1st I wouldnt expect you to know about new performance up grades on the 06 evo 9, or anyone to know about the upgrades that refer to the evo as a "econobox" 2nd the evo is not a derivitive of the base line lancer. Japan had the Evo 7 that has looks very similar to the USDM lancer we have. 3rd I have not said anywhere that i do not like the looks of the rx8 in any post i have made.

The whole point of my topic here was to say I am in a crossroads between buying an 05 rx8 and turboing it or buying a 06-evo9. The only thing stopping me from buying the rx8 is how it reacts to fi, and how well it will perform handling wise with all the extra power.

The reason i posted here is the few ppl that have turboed rx8 frequently post here.

Ike

I think the RX-8 looks great, but it's not as clear cut as you make it, several publications have made negative comments about the looks of the RX-8.