falconer

Hi, there all sorry for not speaking or writing in Greek, I am an Welshman living in Cyprus, who received today a letter from the Road Transport Department regarding increasing the cost of Road Tax by 10 times from 56.00 euros a year to 514.00 euros per year due to the reclassification of Cubic Capacity they want to change it from 1308cc to 2616cc.

I am looking to see if anyone is organising a protest to the government, if so please let me know. I dont want to have to pay the 514.00 euros, if we can get something sorted.

Regards,

Falconer

This will be also posted for any lurkers in the main forum and the UK Owners Club to try and get maximum exposure.

mariosm1cy

Hello rx8 owners of Cyprus,

I am making this post in order to draw the attention Cypriot rx8 owners regarding the new road tax the Cypriot Road Transport Department decided to increase the cost of the tax by 10 times from 56.00 euros a year to 514.00 euros per year.

ANYONE WHO IS WILLING TO DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT OR HE/SHE IS DOING SOMETHING PLEASE POST AND LET US KNOW SO WE CAN ALL JOIN IN.

Thank you

VERSUS4582

Hi mate, i am cypriot and i am furious with that new legislation ..I am trying to contact the president of the cyprus rx8 club and organize a massive protest about this subject which is completely unreal and fake.Our car is 1308 cc..Even my mama knows that..They cant do whatever they want ..I also have 3 friends with 8's and they are willing to participate in whatever we are going to come up with ...On monday we will talk with Stefanides company which is the official representative of MAZDA in cyprus and see if they are doing something about that ...If you want pm your phone so that if i have anything i can keep you posted...And btw if you have any friends that own 8's as well bring them closer ...My name is George .

falconer

Hi George,

I have posted the same thread to the UK owners club forum and Rotary Heaven forum and Mazda Rotary Club (UK) as well to try and get maximum exposure. In Stephanides you might want to speak with Andreas Eliades he seems to be the Head Technician there, I dont know if you know of anyone else higher up.

I have tried to contact the one person I know here with an '8' he's on the UK forum. I will pm you my number as well.

Regards,

Adrian Falconer

VERSUS4582

Hi Marios,i live in Cyprus as well and i am willing to do a lot of things about that issue...Send a pm with your phone if you want so i can keep you posted...I already found 6 rx8 cypriot owners and i will try to contact the cyprus rx8 club president ..We will call Stefanides on monday morning and see if they are going to do something about that as well ..I am george btw and i live in Nicosia..Where do you live ?

zoom44

Merged the 2 threads

CyprusRX8

All Cypriot owners count me in, in whatever you do. I have had the 8 for almost 4 years now and there is no way I'm gonna put with this!

mariosm1cy

The thing is the letter send to us has a date of 21/12/2009 and most of us got it 31/12/2009 due of the holidays. And it is valid from 1/1/2010. How convenient they took us out of surprise.

CyprusRX8

Just got the letter as well. Monday I will be contacting "sindesmo katanaloton" to see what they have to say about this and will keep you posted. There is no way the RTD can increase our road tax by 1000% and get away with it. This is prejudice against RX8 owners and is based on a lie, the car is officially all over the world 1308cc! were the hell do they get off saying that suddenly its 2616cc???????????? Idiots!!!

PS HAPPY NEW YEAR to everyone even though its gonna be expensive for us in Cyprus!

falconer

@CyprusRX8

keep us updated on any progress

O'Renesis

Here in the Rep. of Ireland the motor tax system has changed from being based on cubic capacity to being based on C02 emmisions.
Using the old system (pre 1st July '08) the RX-8 was classed as having a 1701cc engine , and any car registered in Ireland before 1st July '08 still pays tax on that system. For the RX8 this equates to a yearly car tax of €551.
After 1st July '08, the RX-8 is now classed as having 226g/km of CO2 or more, which now equates to a yearly car tax of €2,100, an increase of €1549.

All I can say is the best of luck with your efforts to have the rates changed by your government.

see here for Irish rates,
https://www.motortax.ie/OMT/pdf/co2_...es_2009_en.pdf

CyprusRX8

If they wanted to change it they should at least keep the old system for cars registered before the 1/1/2010 like they did in Ireland and not impose it on current owners. This would be more fair I think.

mariosm1cy

just so everybody knows

click regarding renewals

falconer

Right I have just received word that Stephanides is on our side and that we need to get a petition together, for the owners of Cyprus. Here is the PM recieved.

Well Adrian, i had a meeting tonight with rx8 club's president and a journalist from burn out magazine.

This is the story : the legal side of the issue will be handled by louis(president) who will arrange and talk with a lawyer.

Also tomorrow they will contact stefanides to learn their part of the story regarding this issue and also mr kolettas who is the head of road and tax dept.

What we owners have to do now is give our signature to a piece of paper in order to supply our lawyer with that.

Each city in cyprus will collet their own signatures and then send them to louis..You can contact the person in this number xx xxx xxx and meet him to sign.

He is responsible for larnaka territory..I dont know his name though because i got the number from louis but he is aware and informed so you should be fine.ok?dont hesitate to contact me for any questions.

nicosp76

First, my apologies as I registered only now to the forum (I was under the impression that I did it 3 years ago... I guess I'm getting old ).

I too had some discussions with few people over the phone and I was asked to give my name, registration number, model and colour of the car.

There are two things going on :
1) As falconer mentioned this will go to court
2) There are plans for a group protest the coming Saturday 9th or the one after 16th

I will keep you update


PS. whoever wants contact number to give his/her details for all the above, let me know.

PS2. I will NEVER accept to give my car's title to be changed and I will NEVER pay any additional money for the road tax...period !

yellowrx8cy

i am in,me and another 30 friends with rotary!

Anthi Diakos

To All RX-8 Cyprus owners.

I am in Nicosia, with 3 universities degrees in Internal Combustion (so I can teach to the whole Cyprus government what is Rotary or any other engine for that matter), and last time with a conflict against Cyta (via Competition Committee), if I recall correctly the outcome was EUR36 million penalty.

To get organize and fight this unpresented Cyprus Road Tax move we need:
1) Organize our RX-8 group (I am in the process to i) Get 1 mobile phone number specifically for RX-8 most likely it will be 99.988887 ii) Register all RX-8 Cyprus owners iii) set up a communication method via internet for quick information among us and iv) have an initial kick off meeting in one of the cities to elect the RX-8 representatives)
2) Have legal advice on our actions
3) Discuss the subject with Stephanides Ltd as the Mazda representative
4) Have a meeting with Mr. Kolletas (the representative of Road Tax authorities)
5) Organize all cities so that there is one team in every city
6) If they are negative, then we can agree on an action plan of how to proceed (this means start your engines and get ready as the Cyprus roads or the Presidential Palace or the Ministry of Communication etc may need to find other roads to drive!).

If any other groups are getting formed or already have been formed, lets try to organize.

VERSUS4582

For all rx8 owners that live in nicosia territory you can contact me at : 99-513383 george,for larnaka territoty :96381327 and for limassol and pafos :99618796 giorgos..This is for us to collect as much signatures possible ang give tthem to louis to be passed on to the lawyer..Have in mind that it's better to procced united as one entity ...Thanx George

Anthi Diakos

Lets try to have one unified team regarding RX-8 Cyprus owners. You can see on top the 4 contact persons.........as i was not aware of the contacts. Now that we have it posted, we can all register via them.

IF WE ARE UNIFIED NOBODY CAN BEAT US.........SO PLEASE LETS BE CO-OPERATIVE and centralize things.

Costa71

Hi,
I have a RX8 and am furious with the new proposed road tax! I live in Paphos and will join you in any way I can. My name is Costa and can be contacted on 99339777 or email on cxdnavara71@hotmail.com.
Thanks.

VERSUS4582

WHAT A DISGRACE ON BEHALF OF THIS NEWSPAPER ...

falconer

George,

Can you give me a brief overview of whats being said. You also might want to resize it because the article is massive

Thanks

Adrian

nicosp76

Hi Adrian,
in short the article is passing to the public the side of the transportation office only, explaining that the decision was made after the office realized that they made a mistake !
It describes that is not Mazda's fault but it was a mistake from the office of transport which register RX8s are 1.3L instead of 2.6L (claiming that this is the actual engine capacity).
It also says that Mr. Koletas (the person in charge of the office) declare that they will NOT refund existing owner who don't wish to keep their cars after the change.

I want to let you know that I have already send an email to that newspaper explaining that their article is don't reflecting the actuals and they just pass some words of a person who doesn't understand a thing for engines. I said that the manufacturer (Mazda) clearly states the engine capacity as 1308cc and that the real mistake is happening now with this unjustified decision.

Guys, I have a question : the letter we all got says something about regulation 629/2008EK of the european Union. Does anybody managed to find this regulation ?
My internet search gave me some regulation for fruits and vegetables only
(is this the reason we have a bigger enginer capacity ? because the carrots are more brown lately ? )

Nicos

falconer

Thanks for the translation nicosp76

VERSUS4582

NO IT DOESN"T SAY THAT ..On the contrary !!!It says that THEY WILL NOT MAKE IT EASIER FOR EXISTING RX8 OWNERS TO SELL THEIR CARS BECAUSE OF THE NEW LEGISLATION...Please don't mislead on such an important issue ...