RX8 sinks in a flood of complaints
03-01-2009, 07:17 AM
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That article seems to be about 5 and a half years slow, regardless of the content.
Most of what the article read was harsh but true but that last bit. Anyone ever have their transmission explode, O2 sensor fail (with the stock exhaust), engine mounts break or limp AC?
A litany of other common repairs included failed transmissions, oxygen sensors, ignition coils and engine mounts, as well as weak air conditioners, moisture-filled lamps and plenty of rattles.
03-01-2009, 07:25 AM
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03-01-2009, 04:50 PM
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man its a few simple rules to follow, people act like owing a car should be maintence free. a little oil here and there and u have to warm it up big ******* deal. theres alot of lazy people in this world.
03-02-2009, 11:39 AM
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Again, this is how journalists can have an effect on the ecomony. This person is totally misinformed and now will devalue your car because of what he has written. Maybe RX8 owners should bombard this guy with emails with real and proper information and maybe get him to print a retraction of some kind. I am just so sick of this kind of crap!
03-02-2009, 12:12 PM
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Well guys here is what i just fired off to the nutjob from the Toronto Star... Al, i stole a few of the lines from your last post.
I'll let you know what i hear back from them!
Mr. Toljagic
I am writting to you in response to your arrticle in the Toronto Star titled "Mazda RX-8 sinks in a flood of complaints"
I would like to sugest that you continue doing your research befor publishing an article that in effect does nothing but smear a quality product.
Granted that the RX8's have had some issues that have been addressed by Mazda, however your littany of common complaints at the end of your article could be a carbon copy for a list of complaints for any other car out there. On top of that many of the problems you have listed havent even occured on an RX8, and if they have its in very few vehicles.
Again, this is how journalists can have an effect on the ecomony. You are completely misinformed as to the nature of this issues with this vehicle and now will accomplish nothing with this article other than to devalue the RX8.
As an RX8 owner i have nothing but positive things to say about the car. Any issues I have had Mazda has addressed in a very timely fashion. The design of this car and it's engine are unique in the auto industry, and i'm sick and tired of reading about people complaining about the need to add oil or the lack of torque.
Once again its called doing your research... before you buy a vehicle look into its characteristics. This car handles like its glued to the road and is the most fun you can have in a car, unless you like to pound on the throttle for the fastest 1/4 mile (and speeding tickets!!). This car is built for the road, take it on a twisty country road, or dodging traffic on the 401 and you will fall in love with this car!
In the future I would again suggest that you continue with your research prior to publishing.
Regards,
Kevin __
I'll let you know what i hear back from them!
Mr. Toljagic
I am writting to you in response to your arrticle in the Toronto Star titled "Mazda RX-8 sinks in a flood of complaints"
I would like to sugest that you continue doing your research befor publishing an article that in effect does nothing but smear a quality product.
Granted that the RX8's have had some issues that have been addressed by Mazda, however your littany of common complaints at the end of your article could be a carbon copy for a list of complaints for any other car out there. On top of that many of the problems you have listed havent even occured on an RX8, and if they have its in very few vehicles.
Again, this is how journalists can have an effect on the ecomony. You are completely misinformed as to the nature of this issues with this vehicle and now will accomplish nothing with this article other than to devalue the RX8.
As an RX8 owner i have nothing but positive things to say about the car. Any issues I have had Mazda has addressed in a very timely fashion. The design of this car and it's engine are unique in the auto industry, and i'm sick and tired of reading about people complaining about the need to add oil or the lack of torque.
Once again its called doing your research... before you buy a vehicle look into its characteristics. This car handles like its glued to the road and is the most fun you can have in a car, unless you like to pound on the throttle for the fastest 1/4 mile (and speeding tickets!!). This car is built for the road, take it on a twisty country road, or dodging traffic on the 401 and you will fall in love with this car!
In the future I would again suggest that you continue with your research prior to publishing.
Regards,
Kevin __
03-02-2009, 12:34 PM
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You guys do realize that you're complaining about an article that was written about the 2004 model, which even we admit has a lot of problems, right?
03-02-2009, 01:31 PM
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I love the comment left at the end
HELLO Mazda!
Stop losing customers, just drop the 2.3DI turbo in the car and watch the sales and accolades flow!
Submitted by nuttygent at 11:22 AM Saturday, February 28 2009
Some people just don't get it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
HELLO Mazda!
Stop losing customers, just drop the 2.3DI turbo in the car and watch the sales and accolades flow!
Submitted by nuttygent at 11:22 AM Saturday, February 28 2009
Some people just don't get it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
03-02-2009, 03:11 PM
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I emailed the author as well. Pretty sad the kind of blanket judgement that's placed on the RX8 based on the 2004 issues. I suppose we should go back to the first year 350z and nitpick all the problems those owners had from IIRC brake issued and serious uneven tire wear.
Frankly, blowing through multiple sets of tires a year would **** me off more than having to check my oil once in a while.
Frankly, blowing through multiple sets of tires a year would **** me off more than having to check my oil once in a while.
03-02-2009, 05:04 PM
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Wow, I got a quick response from Mark the author of the article...
Hello Todd,
I thank you for your very informative e-mail. I think you and I are on the same page. Unfortunately, the story was edited down due to page space, though I don’t see why the online story had to be.
Second Hand is a used-car report that runs most weeks in the Toronto Star. I base my report by scanning several online chat sites, including Edmunds, Epinions, CarSurvey.org and more. Given the word limit, I tend to cut to the chase and outline the weaknesses of each used model. But I usually supply a positive statement like, The majority of RX-8 owners are delighted with their vehicles... since the majority of comments are indeed positive.
In my 10 years of writing this column, I’ve learned to err on the side of caution by listing the cars’ weaknesses because, invariably, the used examples that are sitting on the lots out there are more often problematic ones that may exhibit these faults. Let’s face it, people who are really happy with their cars are less likely to trade them in early.
What I neglected to say is that the 2004 models had the most problems, while 2006 and newer models had fewer bugs. Clearly, Mazda has gone to some lengths to correct its mistakes. However, that doesn’t mean I can’t give used shoppers fair warning. That’s what it’s all about.
I should also mention that it is the editor, and not the writer, who writes the headline. I agree with your assessment of consumers and said as much (the happiest owners are probably those who know the idiosyncracies of the Wankel).
Thanks again for writing. I appreciate the dialogue (I suspect the rotary clubs are passing the link around). By the way, I’m a big Mazda fan. My very first car was an 808 and I’ve owned a 323 in the past.
Cheers!
Mark.
I thank you for your very informative e-mail. I think you and I are on the same page. Unfortunately, the story was edited down due to page space, though I don’t see why the online story had to be.
Second Hand is a used-car report that runs most weeks in the Toronto Star. I base my report by scanning several online chat sites, including Edmunds, Epinions, CarSurvey.org and more. Given the word limit, I tend to cut to the chase and outline the weaknesses of each used model. But I usually supply a positive statement like, The majority of RX-8 owners are delighted with their vehicles... since the majority of comments are indeed positive.
In my 10 years of writing this column, I’ve learned to err on the side of caution by listing the cars’ weaknesses because, invariably, the used examples that are sitting on the lots out there are more often problematic ones that may exhibit these faults. Let’s face it, people who are really happy with their cars are less likely to trade them in early.
What I neglected to say is that the 2004 models had the most problems, while 2006 and newer models had fewer bugs. Clearly, Mazda has gone to some lengths to correct its mistakes. However, that doesn’t mean I can’t give used shoppers fair warning. That’s what it’s all about.
I should also mention that it is the editor, and not the writer, who writes the headline. I agree with your assessment of consumers and said as much (the happiest owners are probably those who know the idiosyncracies of the Wankel).
Thanks again for writing. I appreciate the dialogue (I suspect the rotary clubs are passing the link around). By the way, I’m a big Mazda fan. My very first car was an 808 and I’ve owned a 323 in the past.
Cheers!
Mark.
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03-02-2009, 06:08 PM
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Hi reply did a great job of saying nothing lol. It still doesnt change the fact of the headline or the what the "edited" story said. Unless they print a retraction of some sort his reply really doesnt undo any of the damage his story created.
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