mikey8

Hey everyone.

Well today as I was driving to school on Allen Road i was caught doing 109 in a 80 zone my fault... I forgot that they had such a low limit there.
Well the officer didnt put how many points that is on the ticket, so if any one knows feel free to let me know.
What I need to know is what should I do I know I have to take it to court because Im only 19 and I have a clean record until now and theres no way I can afford to have this on record because insurance would sky rocket.
If anyone has worked with any lawyers in this area like X-Copper etc... in toronto please let me know how good they were and where they are located because this is the only route, I believe, for me to take at the moment.
Also I dont know if this matters but the officer put my license plate number down wrong will this help me in anyway. Also she did not show me my speed on the radar although I did not ask and yes I said she lol.
Well any help and advice would be greatly appreciated and I thank you all in advance.
Thank YOu

Miker

Mikey8, if she wrote 109 on the ticket you'll get demerits. If she wrote the plate number incorrectly, it's an information error and you'll have it tossed. You'll have to give up a day to be in court, but it will be tossed. X-Copper and the Points people are great for criminal charges like impaired and dangerous but it doesn't matter one bit if the points are cleared. If you're convicted without points, the insurance companies will still take notice. The paralegal industry has fooled drivers into believing that if the points are wiped out, you're safe from the insurance industry. Let me state this fact: demerits are only for Ministry of Transportation purposes. If you have a speeding conviction for only 33 bucks and no points, it is still a speeding conviction. Your rates may be bumped up. Go with the information error and good luck.

mikey8

various people have told me that it will get tossed but because it was something that didnt necessarily have anything to do with my car but more of how i was driving the car i felt that the minor mistake wouldnt let such a big infraction go so easily. Thanks one again

Ghostrider8U

Problem: Speeding Tickets

Solution: Radar Jammer (www.rockymountainradar.com)


I live in Alberta so the cops think it's just a detector (legal in Alberta) and leave me alone. Then I blow through their radar traps doing 150 and they wonder why their laser gun doesn't record my speed. Makes for a great watercooler story...

My driving record is perfect and I have 0 speeding tickets since I've owned the jammer.

Make your life easy.

Fritz the Cat

Well, I'd be interested to find out how a RADAR jammer fools a LASER. Different frequencies, and the laser's tight-beam, so how do you jam that?

BTW, I also live in Alberta, and my radar detector's paid for itself a few times over, but it's no match against laser.

ComancheRX8

Well good luck to you, Mikey. I would go on the technicalities, and hope for the best. That sometimes works here in the states, also, but it depends on the judge. Considering your age and driving record, he might let you get off easy. Do they offer Defensive Driver classes or probation as alternatives to paying a big fine? It still costs money, but with the Defensive Driver class, you actually get a reduction in your insurance. With the probation, or Deferred Adjucation, you pay "court costs", but after 60 or 90 days of good driving, the violation is stricked from your record, and the insurance companies never hear about it. I have done them all... :-)

JustinT

Plead not guilty. It will take close to one year to be scheduled for trial. If the plate # is recorded wrong on your ticket, you'll get off right away. She might have done it intentionally to "wake you up" without harming you. I wasn't that lucky. Got pulled over and told I got "paced" doing 130 in 70 (on Allen Rd S). He knocked it down to 90 in 70 and I still took it to court because "pacing" means he would have had to drive behind me for at least 2km at that speed and he did not. This was in September 2005 and I still have not received the scheduled date for trial yet...

gerhardj

I believe it's a Radar "Detector" and a Laser Jammer if I might add my 0.02
Jammer receives the Laser signal and sends a false signal back which gets read as "error" on the "dark side"....It's supposed to give u a 5-8 second warning period during which you can reduce speed. they can be mounted seperate (so called hard wired in with a small light in the instrument cluster or come as part of a COMBO package like the ones ROckymountain sells)

Sorry if this Tech Description is wrong guys but that is what I got out of the last article i read re this wonderful invention. I'm an MD not a techie!

Smokin_LaLa

Anytime you have to go to court for any type of speeding violations even if you win and it gets tossed the insurance companies still know about it

mikey8

thanks for all the input everyone you guys have been great. well i contacted one of those X-Chopper type guys im not sure if im going with him yet so i dont want to state the companies name. But anyways he said that the mistake in the ticket means absolutely nothing because when you go and take it to a judge they will simply just correct the mistake, also stating that the ticket is issued to me and not necessarily the vechile. He also said that he can guarantee me the loss of my 3 points and that theres a 70% chance that he could get no infraction what so ever that he would have to request my transprits if the cop were to show up and also only then could we win the case and have not a single infraction or fine on my license. I got a feeling from the conversation that he really knows his stuff and that he is dedicated to getting the job done, my friend used him and had almost the same infraction as me and he said the guy fought to the last straw and was really dedicated and won him the case and didnt charge nothing except the flat rate he charges everyone which is 300 plus tax. I'll let you guys know how my situation unfolds and if theres anything else you guys can add feel free to post and i thank you all for the help thank you and drive safe

YT1300

Hmm. I'm not so sure that the insurance companies automatically know about it - they would have to get their information from somewhere, and most jurisdictions do not directly report to the insurance companies. Public insurance, however, is another matter.

You do have to report any incidences when you apply for insurance, however. You can't/shouldn't lie, because if they do find out, you will have your insurance cancelled, and that's worse than a single ticket.

01Racing

1st, keep in mind your insurance company doesnt look at just demerit points! I speak from experience. (best friend is an insurance agent) Any ticket that shows on your drivers abstract is a liability! A few years ago I had a ticket for speeding with no points and a no seat belt ticket. When they decided to run my abstract (which they do randomly at most companies) I got a call saying my rates were going up! I was SHOCKED! I said to my friend that I had no points--he laughed at me, stating points or no points I still had 2 tickets on my abstract. My other good friend (York Regional Police) also laughed at the fact people think he did them a big favor when they reduce a ticket so they dont have any point and dont take it to court. Bottom line is if your ticket is not completely thrown out of court and your insurance company checks your abstract yearly, its gonna cost you! Be very careful with X-Copper and other who only guarantee they can reduce yuor ticket, because all it may do is cost you more money in the long run.

mikey8

Personally I could just go to court and the cop would most likely not show up and i would just get the fine and not the points. So the main reason I'm going with the Agent or lawyer whatever he may be called, is because i want it to be like nothing ever happened and have a clean record because insurance is already rediculous for a 19 year old soon to be 20 in March driving an Rx8.
Another thing i would like to add to regards to getting a fine are, I only have my G2 and never really got around to Booking a date for my G do you guys and gals lol think that if i were to get the fine but not the points and then get my G right after or even before, would balance out the insurance rise from getting the ticket, to the drop in insurance from getting my G. thank you all once again.

BlueEyes

Uh, I'm pretty sure the only place you'll see a speed limit higher than 80 is a highway. Since Allen Road isn't a highway, it should have been pretty obvious.

Pete

If you request to see the radar . They need to show you.
I know if they spell your name wrong it doesn't matter. I'm not sure about the plates.
Hire a x-copper so you don't need to go to court. I'm sure they knock it down to a fine with no points. If they do... take it.

What I do when pulled over:

- Take out my cell phone.
- hit record
- go to court
- win (i'll write details later , bit busy)

Best of luck !

nik79

Hi, I just got my first ticket ever. The cop was standing on a 401 onramp and says I was doing 125 in a 70 zone.

Any recommendations on how this will unfold?

It looks pretty bad. 6 points + 30 day suspension. The cop just gave a me court date because there is no $$ set for 50k/h over the limit.

two rotors

Some insurance companies DO NOT check each year,they only check when you change something,eg new car,different coverage.

YT1300

The speed limit on an on-ramp differs from that of the highway that you're entering? How odd.

Throw yourself on the mercy of the court. Point out the fact that you're a student, that you had a perfect record before, that you need to drive for work reasons, and that you won't do it again. Dress nicely and be poilte and contrite.

That or hope that the officer doesn't show up.

Chris_Bangle

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go to court. always keep your recond clean. forget x copper. i have went through about 3 guys including x-copper. I have used Mr. Traffic Ticket for a couple of yaers now give, Ken Moore a call at 416 465 32 14. Fairly priced. Honest. and so far has a good record with me 4 out of 5 tickets gone. 1 reduced to 0 points.

Good Luck.

askme

Plate mistake does not matter... One of the best keys to winning is to keep postphoning the date... I had 2 speeding tickets, and I went through that... If you ever go to one of the court sessions you'll see that 90% of Xcoppers and alikes do nothing but talk to prosecutors and lower the ticket, say from 29 over to say 20 or 15, but damage is the same from insurance perspective... also if you take it to court yourself and the cop is not there (they are all sitting there, so you'll see if she is there or not), then you just proceed with trial and you win (your record will be cleared) whether you are with Xcopper, lawyer or not. Your record will remain clear and no insurance company will know about it, because charges are withdrawn, and you can not be accusted of the fact that you went to court...