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Old 06-09-2012, 03:26 PM   #1
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A shout out for WCS for helping with my de-flood

Scott drove 40 min to come help.
WE changed to the up-rated starter and dried the chambers with the plugs out, a battery charger and many, many 10 second cranks of the engine till the plug holes were dry.
(fuel cut and ESS unplugged)

It's running again and I wanted to say thanks!

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Yes it is quite the car club were in, one day you can get flamed for asking a question you should have search for,and the next you have somebody like Scott driving out to help you.
Way to go WCS u da man
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Scott is definitely an awesome dude!

Glad you are back on the road buddy
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Thanks Warren, lol the rotary gawds have been satisfied.
Next BHR ignition.

Thanks guys, I appreciate it
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+1 for WCS. got a pile of BHR goodies winging there way up here at the moment and a new motor sitting at scarbough mazda ready to go. install meet for coils,plugs and fuel pump mod?
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The BHR coils are great. You guys are gonna like them.
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Oh................I didn't know it was you he was going to help out yesterday! Too funny.
Yeah, the one(and only) experience I had in de-flooding......it was real obvious that no matter how you decide to cut the fuel when cranking, you need to NOT have anymore dump in there while you clear it out. New or at least an old set of dry plugs help as well. And of course another battery if it takes that long to clear it out.
Did you guys end up putting any oil in the chambers or just crank in short bursts for a long @ss time?

I mentioned to him that once he thought it was all dry in there, to do it a few more times to be sure. We actually just pulled the fuel pump relay and nothing else. When all done clearing it out and dry plugs back in, we just cranked it until it caught and then plugged in the fuel relay real quick.

So.....................how id it flood in the first place? Bad coils?
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+1 for WCS. got a pile of BHR goodies winging there way up here at the moment and a new motor sitting at scarbough mazda ready to go. install meet for coils,plugs and fuel pump mod?
Sounds like fun, I'll bring the beer mod. Actually I'm really interested in the doing a motor swap, would love to help out.

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Oh................I didn't know it was you he was going to help out yesterday! Too funny.
Yeah, the one(and only) experience I had in de-flooding......it was real obvious that no matter how you decide to cut the fuel when cranking, you need to NOT have anymore dump in there while you clear it out. New or at least an old set of dry plugs help as well. And of course another battery if it takes that long to clear it out.
Did you guys end up putting any oil in the chambers or just crank in short bursts for a long @ss time?

I mentioned to him that once he thought it was all dry in there, to do it a few more times to be sure. We actually just pulled the fuel pump relay and nothing else. When all done clearing it out and dry plugs back in, we just cranked it until it caught and then plugged in the fuel relay real quick.

So.....................how id it flood in the first place? Bad coils?
We didn't put oil in ... around the 8 or 9th set of cranking you could easily tell things were getting dry.
We did a few more just to make sure, as you did.

I'm thinking a little oil might have been ok.
The car started immediately once we finished and installed new plugs.

IIRC the car was driven there and put away for the winter. Warren went to start it a month or so later (just to warm it up) and the battery was weak and he flooded it.
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Oh................I didn't know it was you he was going to help out yesterday! Too funny.
Yeah, the one(and only) experience I had in de-flooding......it was real obvious that no matter how you decide to cut the fuel when cranking, you need to NOT have anymore dump in there while you clear it out. New or at least an old set of dry plugs help as well. And of course another battery if it takes that long to clear it out.
Did you guys end up putting any oil in the chambers or just crank in short bursts for a long @ss time?

I mentioned to him that once he thought it was all dry in there, to do it a few more times to be sure. We actually just pulled the fuel pump relay and nothing else. When all done clearing it out and dry plugs back in, we just cranked it until it caught and then plugged in the fuel relay real quick.

So.....................how id it flood in the first place? Bad coils?
Yeah... I was seriously lacking space and tools where the car is stored. The help was appreciated.
We had the battery charger on and with the new starter it really spins fast with the plugs out!
We had the ESS disabled as well as the fuel fuse and relay out... and the go pedal depressed... triple redundancy as Scott says... LOL
Once it was dry at the plug holes we cranked a few more times, reassembled everything and then started it up normally.
I had parked the car as Scott said but did not attach the battery tender. When I returned to winterize it the battery was not strong enough to start the car but just strong enough to flood it
Anyway, my first deflood is history now.

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Old starter was spinning 164 RPM
New starter spins at 320 RPM

New starter and new plugs will not start a flooded engine: the chambers must be dry

Best way to dry the chambers is to pull the ESS and plugs, crank the engine, check for fluid at the plug holes, clean the plug holes, repeat until plug holes are dry after cranking.
When cranking use 10 second bursts every few minutes. Use a battery charger or extra battery.
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+1 for WCS. got a pile of BHR goodies winging there way up here at the moment and a new motor sitting at scarbough mazda ready to go. install meet for coils,plugs and fuel pump mod?
when is this install meet happening? i already installed my bhr kit and rb intake duct but i'd like to seafoam and maybe help out/chill
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when is this install meet happening? i already installed my bhr kit and rb intake duct but i'd like to seafoam and maybe help out/chill
I'm thinking Wednesday at WCS's place in O'Ville. I'm bringing Guinness Scott, please confirm!

Scott is checking my compression and if it is good then I'm putting on BHR ignition and Davesport cat.
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Sure, but I'm confused.

Are we talking about Scottish or me?
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Sure, but I'm confused.

Are we talking about Scottish or me?
Don't know but I was talking about the install meet in O'ville at WCS's!
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Sounds good.
I'll be here, hopefully without the hail this time.
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Sounds good.
I'll be here, hopefully without the hail this time.
Wednesday it is... hail or shine! I will be up, with beers, just after lunch and can stay till evening.
I hope to get the compression test done and move on to mods if the result is a pass.
Scott, did you find your sensor fitting?

What do you want to work on on the white beast?

Anyone else coming up?

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WCS is the man!!!

Good to hear you got Warren up and running.

De-flooding is a bitch, huh?

I wish everything wasn't so chaotic at the moment for me. I would love to come around and catch up with people.
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Scott, did you find your sensor fitting?

What do you want to work on on the white beast?
Found the sensor fitting

Would like to fix the rear tail light moisture thing, I have a new gasket.

I also have a new rad fan motor I need to replace but that might be a big job.
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Found the sensor fitting

Would like to fix the rear tail light moisture thing, I have a new gasket.

I also have a new rad fan motor I need to replace but that might be a big job.
Yeah, I have to change my driver side tail light gasket as well... easy job! Maybe I can go get a gasket before I come up.

I can help with your fan motor... at least till 7 pm.

Bringing Guinness... looking forward to a great day!
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