ASH8

Last Sunday I emailed Mr Doug Dickson, the General Manager of Mazda Australia concerning the rumored production halt and availability of the RX-8 in 2008.
I have been saving and ALL these years to actually purchase an RX-8 but was waiting on the Updated or face-lifted model, and 2008 fits in to my planing.

I did not ask Mr. Dickson if the RX-8 in 2008 will be an update, however, I believe it will be..

Here is the reply from the email I sent him.

"Dear Ashley

Thank you for the note and your continuing interest in Mazda.

It will be possible to order a Mazda RX-8 for delivery in June next year and perhaps even May as (apart from the Anniversary model) production of RX-8 resumes next April.

If you make contact with the Neale’s (or any of our Dealers) I am sure that they would be only to happy to keep you informed and advise you immediately the opportunity becomes available to place an order.

As you are aware, True Red is not part of the Mazda RX-8 standard palette. Unfortunately we cannot make a special order for a non standard colour.

Once again thank you for your interest in Mazda RX-8 and we look forward to the opportunity for your custom.


Kind regards
Doug Dickson "

I will PM Gomez, and offer to send him my original email and reply to verify the integrity of this post...for those who may not wish to believe me.

So it is good news for me and ALL for the RX-8 in 2008 and beyond.

auzoom

I commented on .com.au and will say the same here. This is not news, I posted the day after Gomez' initial thread that production would start again in April, and Gomez later confirmed the same.

What everyone wants to know is what the new model will entail. A lot of people claim knowledge, no one has posted details.

Cheers

Andrew

enforcer

The way I read that email, Mazda are saying the RX8 will be available to order next year and nothing else.

I also think there will be a minor facelift on this model, but nothing significant until 2010.

Every day that passes is another day you're missing out on the thrill of owning one of these magnificant motor cars, so I hope your wish comes true soon....

ASH8

I have followed all the posts and information Andrew, and I know what has been said, this is not a pissing contest on who said what first as you seem to continue to imply/post.

I have detailed exactly what was emailed to me by the GM of Mazda Australia and if you want, to officially confirms what Gomez and then you said.......

A week ago the information on the RENESIS II had not broke so I did not ask him, my concerns then was the halt in production and perhaps the reasons why.

YES it is not new news, but as far as I am concerned and perhaps others here it is official.

auzoom

Firstly, RENESIS II has been talked about for a long time as a new 1.6l twin rotor. What has been talked about for the last week and a half was firsly the cesassion of the RX-8, which became finalisation of the current model RX-8 to make way for a new model come April 2008. I dont believe anyone has believed the new engine will form part of the new car, especially when the Kabura concept doing the rounds of the US have a piston engine.

Secondly, I wasnt trying to imply anything. This is a hot topic which has stirred up a lot of debate and for some reason, emotion. The last I saw of the thread before it was deleted, no one was debating the SII was on its way, just its specs. This is the reason I question why it needed raising again when basically nothing has been added. And yes I understand that an email from the "GM" is nice proof but I dont believe anyone was in any doubt that the information previously available was in doubt.

Cheers

Andrew

ASH8

What has the Kabura got to do with the New RX-8 in 2008 and what engine it may have in it. We all know it has a banger in it , but, than means nothing.
I recall Mazda imported the very first Luce coupe to Australia on 1972-3 and was shown at all the motor shows in Australia, nothing was said about a rotary engine as the show car had the 4 cylinder 1800 in it, when the models finally arrived the duel engine option was available, as we know it now the 929 and RX-4.
I do not know if Mazda will add another Rotary into their line up...I doubt it, they possibly could add it to the RX-8 range.
The talk now is the RENESIS II is a 15C, which would mean wider rotors and larger diameter housings/rotors....will it make production, too early to tell.

BTW I did try to post my email information in Gomez thread titled 'VALE RX-8', as we know he deleted it. Perhaps Lock and Load should do the same.
Also I did mention in Gomez's deleted thread that I would email Dickson at MA.
It took a week for a reply.
Perhaps I should now ask for the specifications list???..., do you really think he would tell me....
Ash

auzoom

Ash, I have been studying since thursday night and haven't really looked outside the aus sub forum. This thread https://www.rx8club.com/rx-8-discussion-3/new-rx-8-2008-a-126711/ make things a little clearer.

Revolver

I invite Gomez to post his updated info in here or the thread Andrew provided a link to above.

ASH8

So where is the info Gomez?

If you won't share it, I can only come to the conclusion that you do not have it.

And I did not read the last posts of your "RX-8 Vale" Thread before you deleted it to see what was said about new model features if any.

So all we know is that production will resume in April 08 after a break.
With the new face-lift RX-8..availible in May/June 08.

Gomez

This sub-forum is now focussed on building friendships. It's not focussed on discussing the RX-8. It's become MySpace Lite. If that's what the people here want, they can have it. I'm not interested in banal chit-chat.

When clueless postwhoring moonunits run amok in serious threads, it's time to take stock.

If the forum prefers cheery mindless banter over enquiry and discovery, then so be it. I stopped posting here earlier this year because the forum had headed off into LaLa land. I came back because I thought I sensed a change in this forum's direction, but there you go. Too many Lightweights, not enough Labrats.

Ash, I too have come to a conclusion.

auzoom

Anyone know the rest of the lyrics???

enforcer

I posted earlier in this thread, and for fear of being tagged one of those 'moonunits' I'm out of here.....

ASH8

Well I suppose it is goodbye again Gomez...

You can not let the **** that is sometimes posted get to you or anyone.
Generally I just glaze over the crap and do my post, after all there are members aged between 16 and 52.

Gomez, those that do enjoy or find interesting what you have to say know who they are.

Bloody Ego's

Revolver

Personally, I don't mind a bit of both serious and light stuff - it's not a communication tool amenable to rigid patterns of behaviour and it's easy enough to pass quickly over the banal. However, there's no doubt the msn messenger/ txt msg stuff can get very boring.

Sorry to see you go (again) - guess I'll have to drop into the technical sub-forums more often to keep up to date...and you know my email addy if you get any juicy news on next year's model...

ASH8

Can I add my name there also, seeing 08 is my year finally for my 8!.
Any info on the new RX-8 would be appreciated, I think emailing DD at MA would
achieve little as I don't think he would be forthcoming...buy one never knows.

ASH8

Umm, I prefer to keep threads topic specific...
There is an "old" saying...if the cap fits wear it...
Apart from that I have no intention of playing games with anyone...

I could not agree more get over it.

labrat

Getting back to the important stuff (which is speculation on the next-gen RX-8), I was just rummaging around on the Mazda AU site, and looking at the concept designs again http://www.mazda.com.au/articleZone1...ticleZoneID=28. I was struck by the similarity of line between the Nagare, Ryuga and Senku concepts. The same similarity of line ran through all the RX-EVOLV concepts which led to the RX-8. Check your RX-8 book if you're lucky to have one, and you'll see what I mean.

My take is that the next real model change (whenever that is) will have strong elements of these concepts with some of the extreme bits rounded off.

erx8s

Restyled .........................RX8 at the Toyko Motor Show.

http://www.autoblog.com/2007/09/28/m...ming-to-tokyo/


Cheers
Michael

Revolver

It's definitely a concerted attempt by Mazda to develop the next phase of design for the overall brand, which is why they are working the same theme through a number of concepts and testing market reaction (these things don't get shown for fun).

However, whether it's been developed enough (i.e. palatable to the market) to become production reality in the next 2-3 years (which would be the normal shelf-life of the current RX8 model) remains to be seen. Indeed, they would have had to make the call on it by now if that model is going to be finished and ready for market by then.

They may also have trouble working backwards to the more garden variety models from those more extreme concepts, which is what they have obviously done with the previous evolv concept and why the brand currently enjoys such a cohesive design image across many different models.

I suppose elements of those concepts can be used but they are a long way from what most manufacturers are daring to produce atm. And if all it does is produce a relatively limited volume sports car without any cross-over value for the brand's main sellers, they may just leave those concepts for the company museum - the fate of most concepts. The halo/hero car has got to do more than just get people into showrooms these days - the cars below it in the range have to have a tangible, visual link to the halo/hero image to ensure maximum boost for the overall brand's reception by the market. I think the difference between the previous Mazda 2 and the new 2 makes this point dramatically - we'll be seeing plenty of those on the roads.

Still, I suppose Mazda has a reputation for trying different stuff and maybe the success of this current phase of design has given them the confidence to take their overall brand design into a bolder direction (mind you, that's exactly what happened to BMW and didn't that polarise the buying public).

(Qualifier - yes I studied marketing for a couple of years when I was young and stupid but no, I'm not an expert - I just find branding strategies interesting to discuss...).

Cromax

That's what I thought, it'd just be a facelift



These little tinpot things are starting to grow on me ... I'd never buy one, but it'd be a good first car!

Revolver

And certainly a massive improvement on the last Mazda 2.

These little hatches can be fun city cars. I had something similar for a year or so to run around in while recovering from the first house purchase and it did the job as basic transport that didn't put you to sleep - indeed it was quite a chuckable little thing and, provided you were in the right gear, was zippy enough. There's also a lot to be said for cheap, reliable transport that you don't have to worry about.

Obviously prefer my 8 but these entry-level cars have come a long way from the crap that was around when I started driving...

But, back on topic (lol), I've also been of the view that we're just going to see a facelift next year (as unveiled at Tokyo probably).

ASH8

AutoBlog.....

Additionally, the magazine is reporting that Mazda will be unveiling a revised version of the RX-8 at the Tokyo Motor Show next month. Although details about the re-skin weren't disclosed, there will be a gasoline/hydrogen electric hybrid concept on the stand.

A Re-skin?
Is that just a face-lift call, ie. front and rear treatment...
or as I thought a Re-skin is a fresh new outer-skin virtually all over, including side doors?

Revolver

Be careful about taking words too literally. Not all journos/bloggers/whoever the hell wrote that are precise.

Not long to wait now till we find out anyways.

erx8s

Whatever they do to the revised RX8 its getting head on competition from the Evo X , Subaru STI , Nissan 370 Z .ALL NEW CARS NOT MERELY Rehashed RX8's .
Sales wont be great for Mazda ....IMOH

Maybe you should ask the CEO of Mazda your friend for some pics i am certain he will help out .Last time he didnt even tell you about a revised model

Cheers
Michael