auzoom

Unfortunately its the interweb and its pretty anonymous. These guys cant see you Dave so they take you seriously I think you need to add in your signature a head shot and something along the lines of "Would you take this mug seriously"

Revolver

Excellent suggestion Andrew.

If only they could see my smiling face and benign demeanour, they'd know I'm not that evil...

thisllub

Hydrogen gas.

All the oxygen has been removed first.
Probably by coal fired electricity.

enforcer

Revolver

Give me another 20 years and a dodgy mo and that's about it, yeah...

For now, this is probably closer (especially if I'm cross-examining you ):

labrat

Actually, I didn't know what you were saying. I had two choices: comment, or let it go. I apologize if you took it personally. I realize you were only reporting what you had read, and I don't mean that in a condescending manner. Other people bring their own expertise to this forum, and I respect and appreciate their comments. I'll admit to a lack of tact, but I do try to restrain myself from smart-arsing.

Sorry, I get a bit ticked off these days. We seem to be living in a world in which we're all drowning in a sea of bullshit. Every day some charlatan pops up with something to rip money from the gullible. Tabloid TV and the internet have proven a boon to these clowns. A favourite ploy is to give it a thin veneer of "science" so that it sounds plausible, and people take it as fact. People who propose these things are just as much crooks as those who try to sell you the Sydney Harbour Bridge in a pub. I think those of us who can see through these sorts of things have a duty to speak up. I'll admit my ignorance of the law, but I was dead serious when I thought that these people should be pursued under the Trade Practices Act.

Anyway, I suspect you're right. I think we should all go back to talking about things like tyres, sparkplugs and brakes; things that I freely admit I know nothing about.

mdr

No worries I was having a bad day and probably took it out on you when I shouldn't have.

All water under the bridge now.

Revolver

sheik480

11 months old? Wow. Here is my view on the matter: a rotary engine would actually benefit from the additional heat of the hydrogen and oxygen burning, because it would burn the fuel much better (more completely), and act kinda like a third sparkplug. If I'm wrong, tell me. Has anyone tried using hho in an rx8? Also, so you know, I'm a 14 year old in 8th grade, so a little more constructive criticism and a little less destructive criticism would be appreciated. Thanks

auzoom

The rotary engine suffers from excessive heat so adding more in would only increase an already problematic area.

Also, if you hadn't read from the previous posts the whole point here is people are selling HHO as an alternate fuel which is supposedly "green". Unfortunately the energy required to get to the point where you can use the "raw materials" for HHO on a car is far more than that required to produce and use the petrol we currently use.

hth.

Andrew

sheik480

Ok, I see what you're sayin'. I totally agree with it being very impractical to run the engine only on hho, but in conjunction with normal gasoline, the more complete burn would require less fuel for the same power. I believe highway cruising would really benefit from this. Also, I don't know how much heat burning hydrogen adds, but I think it goes for a more complete burn by actually being in the air mixture. No, I don't have a phd in wankel engineering or thermodynamics or fuels chemistry, so I could be off by a fair margin.

auzoom

OK I dont know how many different ways this can be said, but while it MAY be possible to use HHO to save on the amount of fuel used, the cost if not monetarily then environmentally to get to the point of running it far out weighs that of petroleum fuels.

Tim Tam

My God, I just read this entire thread and wasted 10 mins of my life! Have to make something out of it now, so here goes:


Hang on, aren't you a Lawyer??????????

Revolver

No it's just a vicious rumour...I leave the evil to 'consultants' and tradesmen.

sheik480

I see what you're saying. Running an engine totally on hho would be very expensive/un-enviromentalist like, but using a small amount of power from the engine to make hho for a more efficient burn. That or you could just ramp the gear ratios way up and hope for the best!

rambo696

yes stop there are a bunch of cry babies that don't understand when they see something that they don't want to talk about skip over it but yet they cry about it. Freakin 2 year old babies

Gravey

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^Nice 5 year bump, combined with 1st post! congrats! Those babies should be 7 by now....

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