View Full Version : I hate all of you!!!


Abe M
08-30-2003, 08:45 AM
Hey nothing personal, but I hate all you pinheads!! You all bought a car, what ever the HP for full price or more!!! Some of you bought the car without even driving one, now a lot of you are complaining about being misled by Mazda. You are asking now is the car worth what you paid? The answer is NO! Why would anyone want to give a dealership $2000.00 or more profit on the sale of one car. Because of you people I will have to wait until next spring and try again to buy the car I drove and liked. I went to three different dealers and got the same sorry line "well you know the consumer dictates the price of the car" So thank you all for being so willing to empty your pockets. I waited just as long as you all did, and I'm not going to die if I wait a little longer. When I do buy I will know what I'm getting and pay less. If the price is still non-negotable then I will have to swallow my pride and buy choice number two.
Enjoy your cars, I'll envy all of you as I wait it out through the winter!

f1michel
08-30-2003, 08:55 AM
Dream on Abe M... this car will not be affected one dollar by the HP issue. Yes, we bought it BEFORE we ever drove it but it was the right choice because of the rarity of it, at least in Canada.

Now you better get ready to drive your number 2 choice and whatever that is it certainly won't be as great as the RX-8 is.

NB: I hate you too !

QuantumTheory08
08-30-2003, 09:22 AM
...ugh,

is this a dealer trying to keep the mark-up price alive?:p


Mr. Abe M:
If you're not a dealer and people are selling there cars back, what's to hate?

You may be buying a "used" RX-8 at a lower price, or even a new one at a price with no mark-up. Let's wait and see what happens.

....You may have no "wait" at all.

:p :p :p

Section 8
08-30-2003, 09:33 AM
Come to Virginia. My mazda dealer is selling at MSRP, and he's letting people test drive them w/o a deposit :) I love that dealer...

Genom
08-30-2003, 11:15 AM
Hey Abe, SOME people paid over MSRP. Not all. Some people are happy with their cars, and those that arent can now return them for all their money.

So go look in a mirror Mr. Pinhead :)

ectomort
08-30-2003, 01:34 PM
Originally posted by Abe M
Hey nothing personal, but I hate all you pinheads!! ... Because of you people I will have to wait until next spring and try again to buy the car I drove and liked... When I do buy I will know what I'm getting and pay less.

I'm afraid you've got both misplaced anger and a lack of understanding regarding the laws of supply and demand. You hate us because we were more willing than you to pay market price for a highly anticipated new product? That's laughable.

Why not tell us all a few more products you can't live without but believe are overpriced so we can thwart your ability to purchase them too. ;)

myrx8
08-30-2003, 02:59 PM
Abe M - Just because your mad at those of us who like the RX8 and were willing to pay MSRP (and have the funds) - take your angry elsewhere.

Mazda is doing a great job by giving those who want to return the car a chance. The MSRP I paid, plus the estimated $2000.00 for the debit card and service is well worth the price.

Plus I LOVE seeing 350 Z drivers just stare and wonder "I bought a 350Z, paid more money and I still don't have a back seat!"

mikeb
08-30-2003, 03:13 PM
everyone else said what I wanted to say---So whats your 2nd choice

myrx8
08-30-2003, 03:17 PM
Mikeb - I bet you his second choice is a WRX..

wvphoto
08-30-2003, 03:27 PM
sounds like too much accutane and masturbation..

sorry lil punk

drive daddies car til he saves up the burger king pay check
:D

myrx8
08-30-2003, 03:36 PM
That is the correct response to this kid!!!!:D :D :D

jtimbck2
08-30-2003, 03:36 PM
Why is everyone even responding to this obvious troll?

Sputnik
08-30-2003, 04:55 PM
Guys, I think some of you are taking his post a little too seriously.

---jps

myrx8
08-30-2003, 08:33 PM
Okay, I will stop.

spdspappy
08-30-2003, 09:46 PM
I know that you can find this car under MSRP. I filled out the paperwork for mine today and am buying it under MSRP. I spoke w/ a guy yesterday who bought one from a different dealership in SATX for $1k under MSRP as well... Check out some dealers outside of major cities.

Abe M
08-31-2003, 07:09 PM
Yes, some of you are taking me too seriously! I hoped my last line would have conveyed the fact that I want the car you have.

But in any case to answer all questions and comments. Dad died over ten years ago, so I won't be driving his car. I'm not a kid and don't work at Burger King. I make and have enough to pay full MSRP and more, I just choose not to because when it comes right down to it, it is just a car I'm buying. As for my second choice, I can deal with a 6, definitely not as nice a car but it is more practical for, you know us older folks!!!

Abe M
08-31-2003, 07:10 PM
Yes, some of you are taking me too seriously! I hoped my last line would have conveyed the fact that I want the car you have.

But in any case to answer all questions and comments. Dad died over ten years ago, so I won't be driving his car. I'm not a kid and don't work at Burger King. I make and have enough to pay full MSRP and more, I just choose not to because when it comes right down to it, it is just a car I'm buying. As for my second choice, I can deal with a 6, definitely not as nice a car but it is more practical for, you know us older folks!!!;)

Blue 350z
08-31-2003, 08:45 PM
Originally posted by myrx8

Plus I LOVE seeing 350 Z drivers just stare and wonder "I bought a 350Z, paid more money and I still don't have a back seat!"

LOL!! Ya i'm sure 350z drivers worry about not having a back seat.. What a dumb comment. Wow thats such a dumb statement. I had my 350z for 8 months now and not 1 time I needed to put a 3rd or 4th person on my car nor had I wished I could. I have friends for this reason with 4-5 seaters. 350z owners bought a 2 seater for a reason. Its a perfect excuse not to have to drive into town r be a bus for your friends. Also I bet Corvette drivers are drooling for a back seat also :o

Think before you speak, more like what I think when I seen an RX-8 is I wish he would race me so I could smoke him :p

QuantumTheory08
08-31-2003, 09:09 PM
....wow

graphicguy
08-31-2003, 10:13 PM
Originally posted by Blue 350z


so I could smoke him :p

Whatever it is you're smoking you really should stop. You're becoming delusional.

LiQuiDLaM
09-01-2003, 01:54 AM
Originally posted by f1michel
Yes, we bought it BEFORE we ever drove it but it was the right choice because of the rarity of it, at least in Canada!

Got that right! i've picked up and drove mine for almost a week and i still haven't seen another one on the road ever since day 1! Seriously, where are the Vancity RX-8 drivers at?!!

moogle
09-01-2003, 02:12 AM
Originally posted by Blue 350z



Think before you speak, more like what I think when I seen an RX-8 is I wish he would race me so I could smoke him :p

wooooOOo...

Is your car stock?

mikeb
09-01-2003, 02:22 AM
The 350z is not a vette
The 350z is the poor mans porshe
We do you post on this forum

myrx8
09-01-2003, 08:02 AM
1) I have a red RX8. An the red looks better then and 350Z red.

2) 350Z drivers don't need a back seat because they have no friends.

3) My car still gets more looks then a 350Z.

4) I paid less for my car and got more stuff.

Blue 350z
09-01-2003, 09:21 AM
Originally posted by moogle


wooooOOo...

Is your car stock?

Yep just about, unless you want to include an intake that adds like 2HP..

BTW how can you guage how many looks a car gets? How would you know if an rx-8 gets more looks then a 350z? I doubt you can or have any idea. I can probably say a loaded rx-8 may get more looks then a silver or white (very bland colors IMO) 350z with no wing and the smaller rims but my color, and most of the other 350z colors are eye magnets expecially coupled with the 18's or the track brembos.. Its pretty crazy the looks and expressions I had experenced so far in my car..

CLICK TO SEE A FEW PICS OF MY Z (http://www.geocities.com/azwhoopin22/ZAlbum5.html)

PS: Graphic guy, can you expain to me how I am delusional?

Blue 350z
09-01-2003, 09:28 AM
Originally posted by mikeb
The 350z is not a vette
The 350z is the poor mans porshe
We do you post on this forum

Wow, a 350z is not a vette huh, did you figure that one out yourself?

A 350z is a poor mans PORSCHE (Thats the correct spelling) and yes thanks for the compliment, they do have nearly comparable performance stats, just the price is way way less, so i'll take a "poor mans Porsche" anyday :D

"We do you post on this forum"
:confused: Say what now??

Elara
09-01-2003, 09:50 AM
Blue 350Z, you're on an RX-8 forum. Why are you even trying to argue here? This is the same thing that would happen if an 8 owner started trolling on a Z board. All you're going to do is get into an argument you aren't going to win. If people here WANTED a Z, they would have BOUGHT one. Obviously, they did not. There are valid reasons to buy both- but we chose the reasons to buy an 8.

Ad the rest of you, don't egg him on.

graphicguy
09-01-2003, 10:45 AM
Originally posted by Blue 350z


PS: Graphic guy, can you expain to me how I am delusional?

I've posted this elsewhere before, but I'll repeat it.

When I first started looking at cars to buy, I looked at the RX8, 350Z/G35, Thunderbird, 330ci, CTS, TT, Corvette. Extensively test drove all of them.

I preferred the RX8 and bought it.

THE LETTER comes out on the RX8. Knowing that I had an opportunity to re-evaluate my choice with no penalty, I extensively redrove the 350Z and the G35. Getting a 2nd chance, not only did my choice not change, I was even more secure in my decision on buying (and keeping) the RX8. There isn't a bumpers width of performance difference 0-60 and less than 1/2 a car legnth in the 1/4 between the RX8 and the Z/G twins. In other words, not enough to mean a "hill of beans".

Other reasons in choosing the RX8 over the Z/G:

-high quality interior of the RX8. All the controls have a high quality, silky precision feel. ergonomics are outstanding. interior is just plain better looking than the Z/G. RX8 guages are gorgeous (not the orange glow affair that the Z/G is).

-switch gear in the G/Z were heavier to operate. It kind of reminded me of the clutch/shifter in the last generation of the Z28. RX8 clutch/shifter is light and accurate and precise.

-handling of the Z/G compared to the RX8....Z/G handle well, but the RX8 is just plain handles better and is easier to handle at higher velocities.

-RX8 rotary is among the best sounding power plants I've come across. You can tell the engine sounds in the Z/G (rather corse) are coming from a large V6 (not melodious like the BMW 3 series engines and nowhere near the precise mechanical sounds that come from the RX8).

-features/price comparison goes hands down to the RX8. Mine cost $33K....that includes NAV, side air curtains, To get the same amenities in the Z/G would have cost me $3k-$4k more.

While styling is subjective, I can attest that driving/parking the RX8 elicits more attention than the Z. You can tell the 350Z evolved from the 300ZX, which IMHO, was the wrose looking Z ever produced (I much prefer the 2XXZ series style). The G is probably 2nd at eliciting on-lookers when compared to the RX8.

Went through the evaluation twice. RX8 won both times.

myrx8
09-01-2003, 05:41 PM
Sometimes it comes down to price and what you want.

I like my RX8, I am happy with my RX8, and I will get beat in a race with my RX8.

So what? Racing on the street gets old (and dangerous). Racing on the track is for those who have modified their cars.

I just want to look good. - and have a back seat.

RX22
09-01-2003, 09:24 PM
Originally posted by mikeb
The 350z is the poor mans porshe


Having owned several Porsches, I would say the Z may be a smart mans Porsche, because Porsches are a real pain in the ass to own.

Racer X-8
09-01-2003, 09:33 PM
This thread went from funny to sad.

You Z creeps gotta go.

myrx8
09-01-2003, 09:38 PM
What Porsches have you owned?

Any 911's?

myrx8
09-01-2003, 09:39 PM
Is there anyway to keep the 350Z people out of here?

myrx8
09-01-2003, 09:47 PM
Sounds like this 350Z likes using his friends for rides... What a friend:D

Racer X-8
09-01-2003, 09:48 PM
You would think that if they want to "smoke" a few RX-8's , they oughtta get off the internet and onto some tarmac. Fantasy boyz...

myrx8
09-01-2003, 09:53 PM
It is quite interesting how this thread went from someone hating the RX8 to all of us RX8 owners hating (maybe too strong of a word here) the 350Z.

If this guy was so happy with his 350Z, he would be on that website.

LesPaul
09-02-2003, 10:18 AM
Why is being able to "smoke" important? Is that the measure of a car? Maybe back in high school, but there are so many other important points about a car and stop-light racing isn't one of them, to me anyway.

Now excuse me while I go to the "Save the Trees" forum and explain why we need to cut down more trees. Just for fun.

RX8-TX
09-02-2003, 12:52 PM
Originally posted by Abe M
Hey nothing personal, but I hate all you pinheads!! You all bought a car, what ever the HP for full price or more!!! Some of you bought the car without even driving one, now a lot of you are complaining about being misled by Mazda. You are asking now is the car worth what you paid? The answer is NO! Why would anyone want to give a dealership $2000.00 or more profit on the sale of one car. Because of you people I will have to wait until next spring and try again to buy the car I drove and liked. I went to three different dealers and got the same sorry line "well you know the consumer dictates the price of the car" So thank you all for being so willing to empty your pockets. I waited just as long as you all did, and I'm not going to die if I wait a little longer. When I do buy I will know what I'm getting and pay less. If the price is still non-negotable then I will have to swallow my pride and buy choice number two.
Enjoy your cars, I'll envy all of you as I wait it out through the winter!

Thanks! I hate you too!!....

Racer X-8
09-02-2003, 03:17 PM
I hate the 8
cuz I took the bait
and now I hate me
so I'm gonna buy a Z
:D

Sputnik
09-02-2003, 03:48 PM
Originally posted by Racer X-8
I hate the 8
cuz I took the bait
and now I hate me
so I'm gonna buy a Z
:D Give it a rest already.

---jps

myrx8
09-02-2003, 08:50 PM
I like the RX8