Hey guys.

Just curious. How can this package be so cheap?



As some of you may know, i'm up for new tyres. Considering they may be $300 a pop , thats $1200 for new shoes.

The tempetyres package includes rims AND tyres for $1400. For $200 extra I can get new rims?

The only way I can see how this would work is if the tyres are those plastic ones off tricycles.

http://www.tempetyres.com.au/products_closeup.asp?part=&part_no=303

i probably know too much about tempe tyres....;-P
but as far as i know.... it is a very popular model, they have alot of stock and they have been trying to get rid of those wheels for a while now, hence the price (and mainly because they are able to bulk order, so they do get a good price to start with). believe it of not, i can get alot less for that.... you need to call and find out which brand/model tyres it comes with.

You get what you pay for.

mogley, the tyres that Tempe usually uses for those packages are Nankangs. They're really cheap and budget tyres and the general concensus is that they suck.

If you dont drive your rx8 aggressively or track the car, then they're not too bad - especially if you are on a budget. It does wear out quickly though so yeah, Gomez is right - you get what you pay for.

As for the rims - the StarCorp/HP rims are good quality, and the price seems about right. Tempe's great, they have an extensive range and always look after me :) You can easily knock out another $100'ish from that price or get better tyres even.

Never ever compromise on tyre quality.

Why buy a car for its handling and then stick it in ugg boots?

Safety is also a consideration.

You get what you pay for.
They're really cheap and budget tyres and the general concensus is that they suck.
Hmmm, now let start by saying that I dont mean this in an agro way but I really ... dislike ... these kind of posts. Yes, Nankangs are in the lower end of the price bracket, but they that doesnt mean that they suck! or that they should be avoided. From everything I have heard about them they are fantastic, even on the track, with a superhcharged RX-8 http://www.rx8club.com/showpost.php?p=1101229&postcount=38.

The only complaint on them is in sub zero temperatures (what tyres dont) or in the wet where they are only slightly less than the potenzas http://www.rx8club.com/showthread.php?t=62284&highlight=nankang.


Mogley, have a read of the full thread that Wildcard started. There is some very good debate on these tyres. http://www.rx8club.com/showthread.php?t=62284

Cheers

Andrew

Hmmm, now let start by saying that I dont mean this in an agro way but I really ... dislike ... these kind of posts.

Sorry mate, didnt mean to sound condescending - while I have never tracked with Nankangs on, nor have any of my close track-day buddies, most of us have had Nankangs on cars when we were younger.

I had Nankangs on my first car (Ford TX3 Turbo) and after upgrading, I hadnt looked back since. My _personal view_ of Nankangs are that they really are substandard and it is really worth paying a bit extra and getting some of the mid-range brands (like Kumho's for example).

I'm actually speaking from personal experience and that fact that many people (including Tempe tyres mind you) will agree that its a (much) lower quality tyre than other brands across the range.

I'm no expert, i'm just speaking from experience.

Wasnt thinking you were being condescending mate, I just dislike brand name snobery. Its like people who will only wear Levi jeans!

I have to say that I personally think there are only 3 types of "performance" tyre. Everyday ones and the kind that you can take on the track and R-Compound. They are priced accordingly. I am sure people tyre people wont tell you they have no evidence to back up their claims or will I be hearing from Tom Cruise? :)

They all have their wear, speed and grip ratings.

Cheers

Andrew

Didn't Motor or one of the mags run a test last year with some fairly offbeat tyres...and there were surprises??!!

the new nankangs are alot better made than the earlier ones. so are the current range toyos. from memory, the current range nankangs are made by someof the more-popular-and-more-expansive brands.... yes, you get what you paid for... the brand name... most of the times

I definately don't want to compromise on tyre grip. In everything that I want to do on my car I want it to be moderate.
Moderately good tyres and moderately priced rims.

The set I linked to did seem to have cheap rims which I like the look of but probabaly need to negotiate in terms of tyres.

yes, there always an option to pay more for the tyres of your choice.

The price hike as you go up the food chain in tyres is a bit like cars and indeed most products where branding, etc has a part to play. The increase in price is usually inflated over the increase in performance and utility because the branding is seen as a value-add.

There's always some bargain buys. It just depends what your budget is (i.e. if you can afford a wider range of tyres, your choices multiply).

I bought my wheels and tyres from Tempe Tyres. I got the Nitto extremes with the rims I bought, I got them because of the tyre width being 335 where as every other manufacturer only does 345's in 20inch wheels. At $300 a corner they are not too bad, I blamed the tyres for some poor handling I was having but then later found out that my rear camber was out by about 1.5 degrees (Lesson is to always get you alignment done after a wheel size change.)
Any way there are always compromises to tyres, some better in the dry, others in the wet, some last longer due to compound etc etc. So work out what you want from a tyre and read up on it, then rather than speculating, call Tempe Tyres and ask them which tyres are being offered with that package and look for reviews on that tyre.
The ad did not mention tyre brands from anything I saw.

Mogley, I like those rims. I think the white would look nice on a WB 8. What colour car do you have?

As Eric says, you can always ask for more expensive tyres if you want.

After forking out $300/tyre for Pirelli PZero's 'cause they were on special with the rims I bought, I have to say that I have a little more respect for the potenza's side wall strength.

Andrew

I bought my wheels and tyres from Tempe Tyres. I got the Nitto extremes with the rims I bought, I got them because of the tyre width being 335 where as every other manufacturer only does 345's in 20inch wheels. At $300 a corner they are not too bad, I blamed the tyres for some poor handling I was having but then later found out that my rear camber was out by about 1.5 degrees (Lesson is to always get you alignment done after a wheel size change.)
Any way there are always compromises to tyres, some better in the dry, others in the wet, some last longer due to compound etc etc. So work out what you want from a tyre and read up on it, then rather than speculating, call Tempe Tyres and ask them which tyres are being offered with that package and look for reviews on that tyre.
The ad did not mention tyre brands from anything I saw.
you meant to say 235's and 245's right gibbo. :cwm27:
yes, toyo makes 235's.... for teh tweenies :hahano:

you meant to say 235's and 245's right gibbo. :cwm27:


I was gonna say the same thing. :mdrmed:

Lol yep Ezzy...235...I was driving a dragster there for a second.
Do Toyo really do them....I could not find another make other than the Nittos.

How are the Toyos, I am looking for something a little more grippy.

How are the Toyos, I am looking for something a little more grippy.

Judging by the number of times I saw your doors in my mirrors on Saturday, I'd agree. :cwm27: :mdrmed: :mdrmed:

Judging by the number of times I saw your doors in my mirrors on Saturday, I'd agree. :cwm27: :mdrmed: :mdrmed:

lol you werent the only one :p:

:angel: Who me?

It was some water on the road...honest.

The Nittos are fun to have and are predictable (hence you saw what you saw), but I would like some real sticky tyres so I don't have to have a set for track and set for road.

:angel: Who me?

It was some water on the road...honest.

The Nittos are fun to have and are predictable (hence you saw what you saw), but I would like some real sticky tyres so I don't have to have a set for track and set for road.

:mdrmed: :mdrmed: Yeah - a real wet day it was too... :cwm27:

Next time we get together you're welcome to have a drive of mine and see what you think of the PS2's. I think they're great, even if I risk being labelled a brand snob with more money than sense. ;)

Lol yep Ezzy...235...I was driving a dragster there for a second.
Do Toyo really do them....I could not find another make other than the Nittos.

How are the Toyos, I am looking for something a little more grippy.
oops... i meant the nittos....
not sure if toyo makes 235 for the 20's... but from my past experience, the toyo proxes were made of harder compound, ie. less grip but long life.

I think they're great, even if I risk being labelled a brand snob with more money than sense. ;)
meh.. if you can afford it, why not....
have had michellins before, great tyres and the pirellis are awesome tyres too (and pricy.... almost sh!t a brick when i found out the replacement per tyre was for my last set of 20's :Eyecrazy: )

.... almost sh!t a brick when i found out the replacement per tyre was for my last set of 20's :Eyecrazy: )

Definitely something to keep in mind if you choose the bling route.

bling? as in bling bling tyres?

bling? as in bling bling tyres?

No - as in 20 inch rims. :mdrmed:

No - as in 20 inch rims. :mdrmed:
umm.. i wouldnt refer "bling" to all 20" and/or 20"+ rims.
bling = big and shiny in my books..... so a powercoated matt black 20" rims arent bling bling :hahano:

umm.. i wouldnt refer "bling" to all 20" and/or 20"+ rims.
bling = big and shiny in my books..... so a powercoated matt black 20" rims arent bling bling :hahano:

I agree. Sorry, was being lazy in my terminology there.

Mind you, haven't seen a matt black 20 for a while... :p:

I agree. Sorry, was being lazy in my terminology there.

nah, all good, us men are allowed to be lazy.... once a little while :Peace:

Mind you, haven't seen a matt black 20 for a while... :p:
oops... did i mention matt black? :boink:

bling = chrome

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i got new rims put on mums astina yesterday (as bday gift to her), transformed the car completely. she now wants few more cosmetic mods,i think ive created a monster

i got new rims put on mums astina yesterday (as bday gift to her), transformed the car completely. she now wants few more cosmetic mods,i think ive created a monster

lol - look out Kall - she'll be entering the Astina at AutoSalon before you know it. :Freak_ani :mdrmed:

did someone say the word "Astina"..... i miss that thing :rolleyes:

lol would be nice to have mums car in aswell. but its far from show quality lol its just "cute" for now lol i was thinkin abot it other day.. was gonna get 17s put on it, but her tyres are new and yer she would crack it if i spent more money on her car. so i stayed same size 15s lol few mods i looked at today and showed her and she liked them llol my friends are calling her evolve-mama lol

eric ur welcome to take mums astina for spin, cept its only a BJ 1.8 ;)

eric ur welcome to take mums astina for spin, cept its only a BJ 1.8 ;)
does it have a shiny candy apple orange paint, blue interior, bling bling 19's and turbo setup :angel:

I SAID its only a BJ 1.8 HENCE not like this astina BA i heard of from long long ago ;)