well I have been a long time member of this forum, and I think I might have to sell the 8 soon.......as fun as it has been, I hope to move on over the next 6mths or so? Test drove the 2007g35, IS 350, and then the BMW 335i.....all very different, but the BMW is my next step. As soon as my car sells (or just prior), I will order it I think. I still ove the 8, but it did have some issues (as does any car), and it time for a change. I never thought I'd go back to a beamer, but man what a car ! The test drive I took felt great.....car has tons of power across the band, and seemed to handle well.....the 5.6 est 0-60 by BMW seems waayyy too conservative. I noticed car and Driver tested it at 4.9 :Eyecrazy:

This isn't a done deal yet, but my car is for sale.....and that's where I am leaning

Anyone else have a chance to test drive the new 335i?

how much?

with every single option $61Kish including GST.

that car is sweet tho, has a lot of new functions too!
i wouldnt mind getting one of those!

i think it will be in my driveway in the new 6mths.......I was amazed at the power?...the 3 serious has always been brutal, but this new twin turbo is great !

It would walk all over my 8......and 350z's as well :)

i love the way bmw's drive too... but, just can't justify the price & total cost of ownership lately. bought my car new back in 98 for around $35k otd. there's no way close to getting that now with the same options... for that price range, i might even consider an '05 m3 in the mid $50k's.

glad u love the car and show us some pix after u get it... :)

with every single option $61Kish including GST.


That's insane, no way is the 335 worth $60k!

He lives in Canada.

the 5.6 est 0-60 by BMW seems waayyy too conservative.
Thats if your trying to not spill your starbucks :yumyum::wiggle:

He lives in Canada.


There is no way it is work 55K us dollars.

Good thing it doesn't cost that then.

I think the sedan version will be in my driveway inside of 2 years. The 8 stays too.

my father just ordered a fully optioned (sans nav) 335 and is paying $48500

Is the sedan for sure getting the twin turbos?

Yep, and you can even build it now on www.bmwusa.com! :D

Personally I belive the new 07 G35 will give the 335 a run for its money, the base sedan makes 300hp and thas naturally aspirated

I did see you test drove the G35 07 so I am thinking you prolly didn't like it. But I'd wait for the coupe to come out.

After all your 335i is a coupe and your comparing it to a sedan.

Yep, and you can even build it now on www.bmwusa.com! :D
Yeah, I just checked it out. With the turbo'd power, it should beat out both the IS350 and the G35. This thing is going to be awesome!

seems like they have axed 330i with 335i sedan.
wondering if the base 3 series will get some power boost.

i drove one...didn't seem that fast.

no I test drove the 06g35 coupe.......but you say you test drove the 335i and it wasn't fasy???...huh....this thing pushed me into my seat, and would blow the doors off a 350z, so I would say it is quick :)

Well I was impressed....I do agree the 2008 g35 (redesign) wil be quick as well, but I guess I was just surprised at the linear power from the new 335...no turbo lag at all...

seems like they have axed 330i with 335i sedan.
wondering if the base 3 series will get some power boost.

the 330i is now the 328i if i'm remebering this correctly... BMW ditched the numbering scheme that made sense for the latest in random number generation

330i?.....I am talking about the 335i....

opps....sorry....reading too many threads

ahh...just noticed they bumped the base 3 to 230 hp now, but also follow by a 2000 increase in msrp.

i drove one...didn't seem that fast.
at first i thought the same, im like i feel the oomph but i dont think im going the fast. The second time i blasted out of the gate though i looked at the speedo, i was going 80 before i knew it. Its a fast car but it is a heavy car. While it handled relatively well in the corners the traction control was flashing a lot (granted it was wet...so were the dealer's pants lol). But the car puts on a solid show for what it is. Its a very fast highway cruiser that can handle better than most and is obviously designed to cater to the 50something lawyer/engineer/doctor crowd that doesnt wanna spring 100k on an M5. It also happens to be whisper quiet i didnt hear a turbo spool once, sounded like a muted stock engine. Its a very deceptive car and i can't wait to see the dinan treatment.


btw i went to two BMW dealers both had the same exact demo car. Medium gray with red leather and frankly relatively few options....same thing at your dealership??

at first i thought the same, im like i feel the oomph but i dont think im going the fast. The second time i blasted out of the gate though i looked at the speedo, i was going 80 before i knew it. Its a fast car but it is a heavy car. While it handled relatively well in the corners the traction control was flashing a lot (granted it was wet...so were the dealer's pants lol). But the car puts on a solid show for what it is. Its a very fast highway cruiser that can handle better than most and is obviously designed to cater to the 50something lawyer/engineer/doctor crowd that doesnt wanna spring 100k on an M5. It also happens to be whisper quiet i didnt hear a turbo spool once, sounded like a muted stock engine. Its a very deceptive car and i can't wait to see the dinan treatment.


btw i went to two BMW dealers both had the same exact demo car. Medium gray with red leather and frankly relatively few options....same thing at your dealership??

I've got a neighbor who's running a 335i with Forced induction. It's a pretty sweet set up, next time i talk to him i'll see if i can get some pics of it

The 325 becomes the 328 and is up 15hp and an option or two. The 330 is replaced with the twin turbo 335i. The 325 and 330 was a 1-2 year run (e90). I'd expect to see a whole bunch of those next summer up for sale for good prices.

I've got a neighbor who's running a 335i with Forced induction. It's a pretty sweet set up, next time i talk to him i'll see if i can get some pics of it
Would that be the forced induction that comes stock on the car?

i test drove it last week with my friend. we went to the dealership in his M3 conv, Its suffice to say that the 335 feels faster than the M3, the pushed back against your seat feeling in the 335 is stronger than the M3 probably due to the torque difference. The handling isnt as tight as the M3 with a relatively softer suspension. (it is however stiff than the rx8), interior is way better than the M3. lag is non existent, at least I couldnt detect any, and its very quite. The amazing this is the mileage, while the M3 get 16mpg in the city, the 335 EPA is 19-20.

stats wise, C&D 0-60 is 4.9 sec, only .1 sec off M3's 4.8 (5.1 for Is350 and 5.2 for the new G35 sedan) quater mile is 13.6 which is what M3s usually do. From a rolling start, it is actually faster than M3 in just about all categories.

Other than the price tag, its a hell of a car, especially considering how cheap it will be to mod a twin turbo car for big gains. automobile mag has already dynoed it and found it to be way underated. the realistic crank hp should be around 350hp and 360lb-ft torque.

weakness:
-alumninum block... for some reason, it does not have a magnesium block. this means it wont have the crazy 1000+whp bullet proof potential of 2JZ Supra and GT-Rs.
-price... 50k for a well equiped entry luxury is pretty hard to swallow.

I've got a neighbor who's running a 335i with Forced induction. It's a pretty sweet set up, next time i talk to him i'll see if i can get some pics of it
he's already got one delivered?! wow nice...im really loving the 335. In two years time (usual amount of time for my dad to get bored with a vehicle) i may be inclined to buy his off him and bring it to the dragon and see how it does.

hell i may bite the bullet and get one myself in the spring

hell i may bite the bullet and get one myself in the spring

I'm trying so hard to not do the same thing. :nono:

:rock:
http://www.rx8club.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=85424&stc=1

Please cover your ears youngsters.....That car looks Fuckn sick!!!!

I'm trying so hard to not do the same thing. :nono:
x2

nice pic !

as far as handling of the car, I was really impressed......the demo I drove had rear active steer though.....I'm pretty sure I am sold. As soon as my 8 sells I am placing the order!

Funny thing is just for fun I went back a few days later and drove the g35 I was looking at, and it felt no where near as quick. I BMW is 4-7k more $, but worth it!

As much as pics I've seen of the coupe previously didn't appeal to me... this one you've posted Blue Eyes is freakin' sick!

Too bad BMW has gotten so crazy with their pricing... this is SUPPOSED to be the entry level car in the US?!

look on the bright side japan8 you dont have to pay luxury tax in most states on it. ;)

LOL... true.

I've been on the e90 forums quite a bit lately gathering info. I thought this thread would provide a good read for those that may jump ship, or are just interested in BMW's unique approach. You can also see the dyno sheet. My God this thing is sounding good!

http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=29711

2007 BMW 335i Dynamometer Revisited: We Test Another One!
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By Jason Cammisa
2007 BMW 335i Coupe Front Corner
A few weeks ago, we got a surprise visit from the new BMW 335i coupe, one of the hottest cars of the year. We’d been quivering in anticipation for the 335i not because it’s a 3-series--although that pedigree doesn’t hurt--but because the mind-meltingly fast two-door offers BMW’s first turbocharged gasoline engine ever to be sold in the States.

With this in mind, we just had to take the new coupe to the dyno and see exactly how much power its twin-turbo powerplant puts to the ground. The results? 275 hp and 300 lb-ft of torque at the rear wheels--more than we expected. Rated by the Bimmer boys at 300 hp and 300 lb-ft of torque, it was pretty clear to us that the Bavarian masterpiece was a little underrated from the factory.

In the weeks since we first published the results of that test, we’ve heard some criticism of our conclusion that the 335i makes "closer to 350 hp" than the reported 300. We arrived at that verdict after some quick calculations, but since a chassis dyno only reports how many horses make it to the wheels, it’s admittedly a hard number to verify. We did four runs with that particular car, and the actual peaks were 276, 280, 280, and 283 horsepower. We published the lowest number to be sure there was no claim that we were exaggerating the engine’s output.

But what if this was a one-time fluke? What if that first 335i was a particularly strong example? Or--gasp--a ringer! The answer to that question appeared in the form of another 335i (this time painted space gray metallic) that BMW dropped off last week. Again, without hesitation, we grabbed the keys and headed for the dyno shop.

2007 BMW 335i Coupe Rear Corner
On the way, we were pleased to find intact the awesome midrange torque and incredible straight-six soundtrack. Reacquainting ourselves with the gauges, we noticed that, as with the original tester, the oil temperature stabilized at 240 degrees Fahrenheit while cruising in sixth gear at 80 mph. Lesser engines would melt at those temperatures!

Temperature? Wait! A quick look at the outside temperature display showed that it was only 78 degrees Fahrenheit outside. The last time we put a 335i on the rollers, it was 92. Everybody knows that engines make more power when they get cooler air--and that turbocharged engines are particularly susceptible to heat soak. We stopped worrying and started getting excited. This one might do even better.

We strapped the 335i down, started it up, and did three runs back to back to back. The results were very consistent, showing peaks of 285 hp, then 282 hp, and, finally, 287 hp. This 335i was even stronger at the top end than the last one, but not as strong in the midrange. Peak torque was stable through all three runs at about 285 lb-ft.

After the final run, we decided to grab audio of the 335i running from first gear through fourth. We expected to have the hairs on the back of our neck stand up at the sound of the 3.0-liter engine at full throat, but what we didn’t expect, of course, was a peak hp number nudging the 300-hp mark. That’s right--shortly after the shift into fourth, this second 335i peaked briefly at 299.93 hp.

Looking closely at the chart, there’s a likely explanation for that outrageous number. No, it wasn’t additional torque from a rough shift--the peak occurred too long after the gear change. Like most turbocharged cars, the computer allows a momentary spike of boost before stabilizing it at a prescribed level. We lucked out, as that spike happened right at the engine’s inherent power peak, so we got a little nudge in the final number. Whether the dyno numbers ultimately translate into 300 hp, 350 hp, or 327.543-to-the-fifth-power-hp, the results speak for themselves: this is one very powerful engine.

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http://www.automobilemag.com/features/news/0609_c_bmw_335i_dyno.jpg

Would that be the forced induction that comes stock on the car?


no, bigger blower then factory

What?

Moostafa,
e90post's forums has earned a bookmark right next to rx8club on my toolbar. I really should be looking for an all purpose winter-ready vehicle, but I can't help but think about how good a twin turbo 3-series would look parked next to the rx-8.

Wow!!! this car is insane!!

Playdoh

Is the 3.0 liter that comes in the 328i exactly the same as the 335i? Or does the latter have stronger internals?

not the same, and not worth it if you think you can save money and buy a 328 and turbo charging it vs buying a 335. 335 actually dosnt have the magnesium blocks that other E90 3 series have, they went with aluminum for whatever reason. theres a plethora of other differences in the drivetrain.











what i like the most about the the dyno is the torque curve. a lot of people get stuck up on the max hp and tq figures, but in reality its the area under the curve that counts. 335 has a nice and flat torque curve where you get max torque very early and retains it all the way till ~5500 rpm. the 3.5L engines from toyota and nissan dosnt see max torque until 4800rpm and only last a few hundred rpms.

The Germans seem to be pretty keen about this kind of tuning... VAG with the 2.0 FSI Turbo and the DI V8 in the RS4...

playdoh that is exactly what I noticed when I went for a test drive - instant power off the line ! I drove the auto, and it was still significantly faster the the manual G35 I drove, and even the manual 350z I drove a few mths ago. Can't wait till this car is in my driveway :)

I am seriously considering this too. Seems to be a great value. After I read the C&D review I thought this makes much more sense to me than an M3 and it is cheaper AND you can get 4 doors if you are so inclined. Seems like a no brainer to me. The only thing I don't like is you see soooooooooooooo many 3 series on the road and this doesn't really stand out from the rest of them in any signifcant way as far as the look goes.

i imagine the japanese cars being like 10k cheaper helps a bit hehe, at this price i would seriously be considering the new 415hp M3 that starts in the low 50ks and the upcoming GT-R

foxman, I see a ton of 330's as well, but I think the lines on this car do stand out, as well as the dual exhaust on the back. The package I looked at with the 19" rims looked great, and not like the "typical" old 3 series you see every day.

foxman, I see a ton of 330's as well, but I think the lines on this car do stand out, as well as the dual exhaust on the back. The package I looked at with the 19" rims looked great, and not like the "typical" old 3 series you see every day.

I love it that it has dual exhaust, my 335i lust is growing. New vids popping up all over the place.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D8n0RpNulZs

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yN_eTF6S_ao

I kinda like the 335 sedan more than the coupe. Toss on the M sport aerokit available to the european market, some wheels, clear side markers, body coloured grill surround and you have a winner.

Wow, looks very good and i am very tempted.. but that price tag for the car, wonder if it will be worth it... I probably will trade in my g35 sedan in 07 and replace with a new sedan... the 335 looks good, but will compare with the 08 g35 as well... if the is350 comes with a manuel next year, will take a look at that too... Lots of good choices

the new 07 g35 couple w/ the sports package reviewed very well, as they've supposedly made serious strides in improving handling/ performance. w/ the way car prices are lately, japanese cars are more bang for the buck. gotta love those german horses though still...

only the g35 sedan is updated in 07. 07 g35 coupe is still the current body style, the 08 g35 coupe will be redesigned with 320-330hp.

saw this in another forum....



"Dyno'd our new 335i today. The dyno actually reads a bit low for a dynojet. Other dynojets in the area usually read 8-12whp higher. Regardless, the results were better than expected. Yes, the car is grossly under-rated from the factory.

All results were taken in 4th gear, btw. A 3rd gear pull made a few more ponies but the run was very short.

Best Regards,
Shiv
Vishnu Performance Systems"




Later on he also added the following in another statement.



"The stock turbos do seem capable of holding more boost at redline. In stock form, boost peaks at 9ps but falls down to 5psi up top and then again to 0psi at redline. This is one of the things I'm playing around with right now.

For more info on how the boost controls stem works, here's a post i made the other day...

I've been playing around with our new 335i and found a few interesting bits. One thing I noticed, after much datalogging, probing and head-scratching is its boost control system. It's pretty unique. I haven't seen anything like this employed before in any turbo application, twin turbo or otherwise.

Unlike other turbo systems (evo included) which have a positive mechanical wastegate pressure (that keeps the wastegate normally shut); the wastegates on the turbo are designed to remain fully extended in its natural state. This means if you disconnected all forms of boost control, the 335i runs 0psi of boost. On the other hand, if you do this to an EVO, it will run 11psi of boost. To get more boost in the EVO, the factory boost control solenoid bleeds off the wastegate pressure so the wastegate stays more shut. If the wastegate signal hose, for some reason, were to pop off or rupture, the wastegate would get no boost signal, and you'd get an engine-grenading overboost condition.

With the BMW, to get more boost, it regulates a *VACUUM* signal to pull *CLOSE* the naturally open wastegate. During normal off-boost driving, the wastegate is fed 10" of vacuum which keeps the wastegate partially open. During WOT, but before full boost is reached, the wastegate is fed 20" of vacuum, which completely closes the wastegates for maximum boost response. Once full boost is reached, the wastegate sees 3-5" of vacuum used to regulate the wastegate opening for sustaining the desired boost. Once fuel cut is reached, the clever folks at BMW decided that boost needs to go to 0psi so as to not result in a big, uncivilized "bang bang bang" against the rev limiter. To do this, it cuts all vacuum to the wastegates and they go fully open (no boost!).

The upside to this approach, as i see it at least, is as follows:

1) During start-up, the wastegates are open and the turbos are effectively bypassed. This means that much of the hot exhaust coming out of the engine doesn't go through the turbine wheel and cool off. Instead, it goes right out the wastegate and right into the catalyst. This gets them up to temp quicker and makes the boys at the EPA happy. This also means that BMW can push the cats back downstream a little bit instead of cramming them right up against the turbo where backpressure effects are most deleterious.

2) There is no way to induce an overboost since the natural state of the wastegate is fully open. In other turbo cars, something as simple as a wastegate line rupture will cause the car to overboost.

3) Its just cool engineering. Leave it to the Germans.

The downside to this approach, as i see it at least, is as follows:

1) It requires the use of a separate vacuum tank that needs to be smuggled under the hood somewhere. This takes up a little bit of space and costs extra money. Not much but we all know how OEMs like to shave off every extra bit of material and cost.

2) It confused me for a good part of the morning."



then....


"So far, all we did was minor ignition timing, fuel and boost pattern tweaks. Even on our 91oct, I suspect there is still a good deal more power that can be safely extracted once we have finished this project.

Results:

The gains were greatest at higher engine speeds. At 7000rpm, we picked up nearly 70whp with richer-than-stock A/F ratio. Peak WHP increased from 278 to 310whp at 6000rpm. Torque from 288lb-ft to 311lb-ft. I stayed nice and conservative at low to mid engine speeds (where, quite frankly, we should see the biggest gains when all is said and done). This was because I don't yet have control of the AFR targets in this region.

Once we get control of the fuel in this region, we can start to turn up the wick and really get the sick midrange torque. For now, all we really wanted to do is make the car charge to redline instead of fall flat above 6000rpm.
Thus, The stock set-up falls off to 220whp @ Redline 7000 rpm. The tuned set-up still makes 290whp @ redline 7000 rpm"

wow, very impressive dyno results.... that torque curve is sweet!
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http://www.dynocomp.com/bmw.php?view=bmw

Too expensive for me but a used 335 sedan might be worth looking into in the future.

I think I like it from just a pure highway/around town driving standpoint. Looking under the covers though, its still almost a 3600 lb car (unladen). Thats a whole lot of weight to get around the twisties @ Tremblant or the Glen. In the search for the perfect track/highway/daily driver I still might have to pass on this one.

just got back from test driving the 335. with Sport Package and Premium Package (leather), the final sticker price was $46K.
Overall I have to agree w/ most of the assessments made here. the power delivery is really nice with only a hint of turbo lag. I didn't really get to feel out the handling as much as I wanted on the busy city streets unfortunately; but my initial impressions are that it is in fact a bit softer than the E46 M3. Interior however is improved from the E46 line; the deep red leather on the Sport seats looks surprisingly sharp. Overall a pretty good value for the money, esp. when you think about the add'l power that could be derived from turbo tuning.

I did have a couple of nitpicks though that really kept me from being bowled over by the experience:

1) similar to the last 2 or 3 3-series cars I've driven, the shifter just has that vague rubbery feeling that seems so foreign to a Mazda/Honda driver. felt kinda like I was shifting a banana!! perhaps I would quickly get used to it, but for now I prefer the slightly notchier mechanical movement of my RX8 shifter. more bolt-action-like, if you will.

2) engine sound is a bit too muted, barely hear the turbos and the exhaust really smothers the sound even at higher RPMs. of course, I happen to be comparing this again to the E46 M3....while BMW may not be concerned with that comparison themselves. and I'm not that big a fan of the M3's particular metallic rasp, but at least it's singing to the driver and making itself known at open throttle.

So while i'm impressed overall with this car based on my short test, Idon't know if I would take it over the outgoing M3, from a purely smiles-per-mile/enthusiast/weekend car standpoint. Sorta along the lines of why many of us RX8 owners chose it over the G35 coupe. One car is a little more buttoned down and the other one is a little more visceral.

just got back from test driving the 335. with Sport Package and Premium Package (leather), the final sticker price was $46K.
Overall I have to agree w/ most of the assessments made here. the power delivery is really nice with only a hint of turbo lag. I didn't really get to feel out the handling as much as I wanted on the busy city streets unfortunately; but my initial impressions are that it is in fact a bit softer than the E46 M3. Interior however is improved from the E46 line; the deep red leather on the Sport seats looks surprisingly sharp. Overall a pretty good value for the money, esp. when you think about the add'l power that could be derived from turbo tuning.

I did have a couple of nitpicks though that really kept me from being bowled over by the experience:

1) similar to the last 2 or 3 3-series cars I've driven, the shifter just has that vague rubbery feeling that seems so foreign to a Mazda/Honda driver. felt kinda like I was shifting a banana!! perhaps I would quickly get used to it, but for now I prefer the slightly notchier mechanical movement of my RX8 shifter. more bolt-action-like, if you will.

2) engine sound is a bit too muted, barely hear the turbos and the exhaust really smothers the sound even at higher RPMs. of course, I happen to be comparing this again to the E46 M3....while BMW may not be concerned with that comparison themselves. and I'm not that big a fan of the M3's particular metallic rasp, but at least it's singing to the driver and making itself known at open throttle.

So while i'm impressed overall with this car based on my short test, Idon't know if I would take it over the outgoing M3, from a purely smiles-per-mile/enthusiast/weekend car standpoint. Sorta along the lines of why many of us RX8 owners chose it over the G35 coupe. One car is a little more buttoned down and the other one is a little more visceral.

very nice review. i want to test drive it myself for the sake of comparison with the m3. i know a few people with the e46 and would love to see the difference.

If things go well, you may know two people that will own and compare them first hand (=0P.

more impressive than these numbers is the 30-50 and top gear accel. Lot of usable power, and a very nice ride....it will be in my driveway soon !

http://www.caranddriver.com/roadtests/11733/bmw-335i-specs-page4.html

More good news from Vishnu: http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=31110

More good news from Vishnu: http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=31110

haha, you and jason are gonna be cute ;)

lol.

I test drove one today. It was an auto though. I almost wet myself when the 300hp kicked in. I loved everything about my test drive. The dealer showed me a great road through an industrial park that was uphill. We went both up and down it and it was full of some GREAT curves for test driving a car. The 335i felt firm and planted with tons of power to spare. Overall, it was fantastic car, but I think a bit pricey when you build it up compared to the IS350, which is the other car I test drove today. The 350 is by far the bang for your buck and the V6 with 300 hp was equally impressive, but I hate that it doesnt have a manual tranny. The lexus is probably 60/40 Luxury to sport, while I think the BMW is more 50/50 when fully equipped, which cost more than the loaded IS350. I am torn trying to chose one.

I will say that I took my 8 to the same twisty road right after I took the 335i out. I never left 3rd gear through the entire "track" and the 8 felt just as good, if not better, than the 335. The 8, as usual, felt incredibly nimble through each turn. The 8 did exhibit more body roll than the BMW, but I never felt as though I couldnt push the 8 a little more.

I love it that it has dual exhaust, my 335i lust is growing. New vids popping up all over the place.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D8n0RpNulZs

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yN_eTF6S_ao

good Lord I would LOVE to drive those roads, I hardly even payed attention to the car in those clips lol

The IS350 in CAN$ is not that much cheaper than the 335i? I believe when I looked it was $56+, and the BMW was $60ish with all the options (I am including GST). The styling on the IS350 was just totally boring....as far as performance it was a quick car, but I think the edge was to the 335i? Relative to other cars in it's class it is decent value, but yes you pay a bit more for a BMW. Hell isn't a 350Z fully loaded (incl. gst) $55+? What car would you rather have? I'd spend (will spend :) ) the extra 5-6k and have better performance with the better ride. I will miss the 8 though....not too many cars feel like a glove when you drive them!

I might be gettin the auto with paddle shifting though? No difference in power, and I was impressed with the smooth and powerful accel.!

These guys are awesome!!!

http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=31578

Stop it! Stop it....must resist....AGGGH! 330 reliable HP with a little tuning and an exhaust. B-E-A-Utiful

Do it!

In a little over a year I will, and will probably opt for the sedan version. As much as I like the sedan it will be time to settle down. I'll have the 8 to tinker with and the 335 to...well...tinker with. Haha.

I think I like it from just a pure highway/around town driving standpoint. Looking under the covers though, its still almost a 3600 lb car (unladen). Thats a whole lot of weight to get around the twisties @ Tremblant or the Glen. In the search for the perfect track/highway/daily driver I still might have to pass on this one.

Ok, I might have to retract my previous statement. With that Xede ECU, coilovers, light/wider 19s, and some weight reduction....... I would say $4000 puts this car almost into RS4 range (ok, maybe a little stretch). Lets take the other cars in the $50k range..... nothing much close.

Vishnu is my hero

My wife and I were talking about the 335i the other day. Someone around here has a dark blue one and I commented about how I didn't like the pictures of the coupe but in person it's really beautiful.

I've been throwing around the idea of getting a new car next year and while I've liked the look and the performance numbers of the 3 series (specifically M3 and now the 335i), I'm not sure I'm willing to shell out that kind of money for one. Right now I'm thinking about keeping the 8 until it's paid off and then buying a second car a couple of years from now. Hopefully by then RP will have the Axial Flow Supercharger ready for market and I can make the 8 my weekend toy.

If I decide to sell the 8 next year and get something else, the 335i is going to be way up on the list. I like the 07 G35 sedan, but the 08 coupe looks even nicer. There's always the MS3 - that's the least expensive option, but tons of fun to drive, I bet. All of this could change if Mazda suddenly announced some new RX-Hotness.
Too many gorram choices. :cussing:

Isnt the Axial Flow coming out soon? Keep the 8, and see if Mazda would release another rotary sports car in the near future, and get that! =D
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Isnt the Axial Flow coming out soon? Keep the 8, and see if Mazda would release another rotary sports car in the near future, and get that! =DI have every confidence that he will have one available soon, but until there's a "Buy It Now" link on Richard's website, I'm not going to get too excited.

Unless Mazda comes out with a new rotary hotness that blows my socks off, the 8 will probably be my last rotary car. Not that I'm ready to jump ship yet (though it might seem that way), I'm just keeping my options open.

:)