http://www.350zmotoring.com/forums/s...138#post580138

 

I like the guy posting with the Accord signature.

 

^ hes a Mod lol...

 

lol, funny every time i see his sig i chuckle lol.

 

who ever got beat by a cobalt ss in the 350z doesn't know how to drive. I smoked one in my WRX wagon a few days back.

 

^ Maybe he didn't know how to drive . If your wagon is stock, it was either that, or it wasn't an SS.

It'll be closer than most Z owners would like from a roll.


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Either they have a lot of idiots on that board, or that particular thread attracted a bunch of them.

 

There is also an SS Cobalt that isn't supercharged now.... could have been that.

 

He was the one bugging the hell out of me. One thing though the blower is loud, so yeah it was a SS. at the time my wagon had TBE, K&N filter.

 

Since you had a K&N filter it makes perfect sense...

And yes, the Cobalt SS is going to be closer to a Z froma roll than any of those guys would like to admit. Mod for mod the SS probably had the advantage.

 

350Z forums anger me... Every time I read one there is such bullshit and circle jerking. Sadly Evo forums aren't that far off. Thank god there are only a dozen or so people like that here.

 

Really?

 

Yeah the K&N gave me about 50 whp

 

Ya rly.

 

no wai!

 

some of those modded cobalt ss run 11s, there still ugly

 

One of those guys claims he only lost to a GTO by a fender length or 2. Yeah, sure he did. That's normal acceleration from a stoplight for a GTO. No way he was racing.

 

That's quite possible if it was an '04 GTO.

 

What was the difference?

 

'04 GTOs had the 350hp LS1, I believe. '05 and up had the 400hp LS2. Either way, a stock Z isn't going to keep up.

 

From Road & Tracks Road Test Summary Sheet:

Nissan 350z (35th Anniversary Edition): 300bhp, 0-60 in 5.6 seconds, Quarter mile in 14.1 @101mph.

Cobalt SS Supercharged: 205bhp, 0-60 in 6.2, Quarter mile 14.8 @ 96.8.

Pontiac GTO: 400bhp, 0-60 5.0 seconds, Quarter Mile 13.5 @ 107.1

I know magazine times usually differ from reality due to test conditions, but even with a margin the Z clearly has the edge on the SS, but a GTO could easily beat it in a drag.

And by the way, it's good to be back. Missed ya.... especially my sweetheart Ike.

 

I assume you mean the SS Supercharged. It gets confusing to me personally because my Gf has an SS, and that's actually a model below. Even that car has got some pep to it for being n/a, but it's of course nothing special. I've never driven an SS S/C, but lets just say without making a racing story that a 350Z from a highway roll can give an STI a royal fit, and make you use every last bit of HP you got if you don't wanna lose. This is more driver vs driver here, then car vs car, which is something people always seem to forget. I've been challenged by SS Supercharged in my STI, but I ignored them all the time. Maybe I should given them a chance just to see how fast they are, going by the quote above. HEHE NAH. Sorry I have to disagree somewhat, unless the 350z driver is a chicken crap, or can't drive, or the S/C cobolt is modded.

On a side note for me, the good news to my downgrade is, that nowadays, no one has yet to even bother me in my MS6, because the car is so far under the radar. It's actually kind of nice, but I'm already eyeing up that STI limited, which is NOT good. I need to smack myself, and not do something foolish in 2008. It's too soon.

 

Did you get your ECU reflashed yet on your MS6?

 

Not yet, but I may already have it. I haven't checked. There are mixed reviews on the ms6 forum for those who had the reflash. Some claim there's no power gain, but it is a bit smoother, some say there is, and some say they lost power. I don't know what all the means, but since the car seems to be running quite well, I'm gonna wait for some more feedback,and also check to see if I do have that reflash. Whatewver that reflash is, it can't anything special. Maybe with the success of the ms3 which seems highly likely, the MS6 will have a nice future as a sleeper car to modify. For me personally, this car is just like a regular mazda 6 to me., just with an extra gear, and an AWD for winter use. It gets me to work, has lots of creature comforts, and is not in that enthusiast category as of now. That's what my S2K is for, and is my enthusiast/fun car I'm driving a right now.. It could be seeing a hardtop, s/c kit, a pro tune by next spring if I decide to take the plunge and commit myself 100% to this car long term. We'll see.

 

fairly true #'s (Z's can dip into the 13's from what I understand, but Goats can get into the low 13's), however...

for example: my '98 Volvo C70 when stock had 0-60 in 6.1 (auto) and 1/4 mile in 14.9 @ 98-99mph(don't remember exactly), but would easily surpass the 350Z from a roll situation (280hp version). I chipped it and did full exhaust, and it was just funny after that (took it to the track once and it trapped almost 106, which seemed too high, but the T-5 Volvos always trapped high for their power). The SS suffers from traction problems, being fwd. These problems don't exist once moving. Trap speeds indicate that the Z will still come out on top, but depending on the starting speed, it may be playing catch up for a few seconds. It won't be a murder at least.

Ahh but the STi suffers a little from highway rolls due to the awd.

 

The Cobalt SS Supercharged can trap close to 100mph and run low 14s, that's enough to make any stock Z sweat a bit. Lastly, high 13s low 14s @ a little over 100mph is quite common for a LS1 GTO, so a fender length of two win overa Z is quite believable.