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RotoRocket 07-23-2006, 12:28 PM Stock, Bonds, ETFs, etal. Let all the greed pour out in this thread.
I am a big Motley Fool fan, probably just for the fact that they hammer on the concept of Wall Street 'Pros' driving down returns with ridiculous management fees.
At any rate, I've been labeled a perma-bear by some, but I've actually never been more bullish on U.S. equities than I am right now, for one simple reason:
There's no safe haven for money right now, if you don't want to be in 100% cash at 6% (which isn't too shabby, but I digress), other than high quality U.S. companies.
Emerging markets, gold, metal commodities and residentail real estate have all been beaten to shreds lately, and who knows how long the oil futures market will rally before collapsing.
I also think that a lot of the foolishness that led up to the 2000 stock market collapse has been cleansed from the system, though some silliness may remain in certain pockets.
How does everyone view equities going forward, what strategies are you employing, and what resources (Investors Business Daily?) do you look to in order to guide your strategies.
BaronVonBigmeat 07-23-2006, 11:28 PM I think commodities are just taking a breather. Long term, China and India are going to keep growing. I read somewhere that stocks/commodities go in long cycles: stocks in the 50's and 60's, then commodities in the 70's, then stocks again for a while, and now commodities again for a few years. I'm looking at getting some energy stocks, although I won't have any disposable income until I finish up my house. I have a subscription to Doug Casey's Energy Speculator and International Speculator, but for now I'm limited to the meager amount I put into my 401k.
Do you buy your stocks online? I'm not sure which one to go with. I'm also wondering how you handle capital gains on your income tax, like if I buy and sell and make a thousand bucks, what sort of document do I submit with my taxes?
BOOSTD 7 12-29-2008, 01:19 PM Haha, I got started day trading about 3 weeks ago and have done really well ... so I searched to see if anybody was talking about investments and day trading. If this "official" thread is any indicator, not much investing going on around here.
Feras 12-29-2008, 02:35 PM AUY, OXY, SUN all have made me some mad cash in the last few months.
staticlag 12-29-2008, 02:45 PM Ford was a fun ride for a while.
Quest is a good deal right now and will start paying dividends in March.
AMD is at 2 right now, they should release their 6 core processors in feb or march, should be good for a dollar a share.
staticlag 12-29-2008, 02:51 PM NEXC might spike again in a week or two, should be good for a quick buck.
KV.A has the potential to hit 5 or more when they straighten out their manufacturing process.
Feras 12-29-2008, 04:01 PM good call dan, AMD is a good buy, gonna pick some up tomorrow.
Winfree 12-29-2008, 06:37 PM Oil futures are starting to move again, with crude up to $40 because of mid-east jitters, commodities a little movement. Land values starting a slight return. Tax free bonds - not doing well as California and New York experience losses and problems with their budgets.
Biggest problem is big banks were bailed out without punishments or even investigation into where the money was going... this is not good for money markets and for loans of any sort ... until they clean out their house, the garbage will just pile up and leak all over again...
It's like the dot.Com bubble without the hope of cleaning out non-existing or non producing companies -
Oil is just sitting there begging to be manipulated again with big winners and equally big losers...
Water was scheduled to be a player but luckly we are getting lots of rain, snow, and flooding enough to help people avoid the scamers (but watch the games in August).
The new President has signed onto the religion of Global Warming so expect action in that arena, but heating oil, insulation, double glass windows and winter sports are not going away for at least 4 more years.
77mjd 12-29-2008, 07:20 PM Part of the problem is that you have the scammers, as well as the companies and banks that got bailed out...and the person(s) responsible for it are not getting punished at all and in many cases, they don't have to reveal anything about what is happening to the bailout money. How dumb is the government in this country? It just blows my mind. Every freakin cent should be made public. So as far as investing, as long as all of this "undercover" crap is allowed to continue, there will continue to be bubbles that burst and cost investors a lot of money.
staticlag 12-29-2008, 09:30 PM I took a sizable hit last week with ANSV pharmaceuticals, I day traded .30 cents a share on it, then I went back for more (7:30am CST) in pre-market the next day at .95 with the expectation of selling at 1.05 or better. Got called into a last-minute meeting at my actual job from 8:15 to 8:45 CST. Lol came back to my horror ANSV was at .45 cents. My limit was set at 1.15 :lol: It opened at 1.10 had I not been greedy I would have been out with a nice amount.
Morals of story:
1 Dont try and day trade when you have other stuff to do.
2 Dont day trade on holidays, investors pull money out for xmas making the markets more prone to speculators.
3 Dont be greedy!!!
abbid 12-29-2008, 11:30 PM ill be adding Altria and Dell to my mix pretty soon
possibly sprint or Level3 (LVLT)
Ross_Dawg 12-29-2008, 11:53 PM wow VLO and TSO just made me a nice sum of cash...
Energy stocks as a whole have been steadily increasing over the last 7 weeks so I would suggest waiting until they go down again... However do not buy past April as they always go up for summer
I got lucky with those 2 stocks and invested right at their 52 wk lows around 2 months ago, now I sold them at about 50% gain...
Sometimes you get lucky... Sometimes you don't^^^
BOOSTD 7 12-30-2008, 09:32 AM I'm ONLY day trading. I can't imagine holding anything overnight in this market, you could go to bed with a nice 5% gain, wake up with a 40% loss.
ROH has made me a bundle yesterday and today, after it's initial $15 drop on the DOW news I found a few reports saying that it's buyout deal was near airtight. So I bought 1000 shares at just under $50, it's pushing $58 right now. That'll just about pay for the '04 RX-8 I just bought.
Just about every morning there's some news that's worth acting on before market open. Today the two were IRM and SVNT that I bought pre-market, but are up nicely today. But I've found that news only carries till about 11am EST, after that all bets are off.
Ross_Dawg 12-30-2008, 11:09 AM Yeah so I need to start doing more research if I want to start day trading...
Sounds worth it if you're willing to put in the effort
Winfree 12-30-2008, 01:26 PM Watching GM, with the government holding some of the stock - any predictions?
BOOSTD 7 12-30-2008, 06:32 PM I only make predictions for what will happen in the next 5 minutes ...
rotary magic 12-30-2008, 07:54 PM Not sure about GM. I have traded it 3 times this year on big dips and made a little money. The TARP money will allow GM to move some vehicles at zero percent for 5 years, but in the end I think they burn through the money in two months and file bankruptcy. I think it will trade sideways for a while till the smoke clears.
rotary magic 12-30-2008, 07:56 PM Honda looked good at 16 but I missed the window and watched it go into the low 20s. A buy on another slide to 16 might be in order. They posted higher sales in China and their balance sheet looks better thann most automakers I have studied.
Winfree 12-31-2008, 12:38 AM This may be hot info...Greg Simon, on CSPAN, announced the future plans for cars and oil - he is a member of the Transition Team..
He says they plan to pay for the Bank Bail outs and stimulus plan by a Federal tax on gasoline to bring it to $4 a gallon. This will also pay for public transportation which will be used in major cities while they wean people away from their cars.
Also, they are planning to reduce the role of American car makers and add high tarriffs to imports.
He also said stuff that sounded absolutely crazy, but his audience of students who are supposed to start the grass root movements to support this acted like it was the true religion!
If this goes through it will have wide sweeping impacts on the economy - please see Granny Blog, 30 Dec, 2008, for more details... some of which makes me think this is nuts, but it looks like the inmates are running the nut house!
rotary magic 12-31-2008, 06:15 PM God help us.
Winfree 01-01-2009, 10:54 PM Looks like West Palm Beach really took a hit from the Madoff ponzi scam - some great artwork and homes are going for pennies on the dollar...
But it is begining to hurt D.C., some people had to lower the rent they were going to charge for the party celebrating the change of parties. Now so much big money available for fun and games now....
Good buys at Florida pawn shops!
And wine buyers are going for cheaper bottles - $20 bottles are finding more buyers...
staticlag 01-02-2009, 12:33 PM Kv.a Ftw! +67%
Winfree 01-03-2009, 02:10 PM Can anyone here get info on Bayer, they are no longer traded at the NY exchange- they ran into some trouble with one of their products, and the German economy has had some hits ... so are they still alive?
staticlag 01-03-2009, 04:04 PM IDK they seem to be sticking to the Frankfurt Exchange...
Winfree 01-04-2009, 12:32 AM Good news that - I figure people are going to have some head aches...
Oil prices nearing $50 on mid-east jitters and possible speculation by banks fattened with bail out money, same old players back at it again...
staticlag 01-06-2009, 11:16 AM U guys that just about doubled your money so far with my kv.a tip.
I got another huge one.
actc - advanced cell technologies. If Obama overturns the stem cell ban (which he probably will) this babys going from .05 to a dollar! Obama's probably not going to touch the issue till after he gets the economy settled down so we will see steady gain till at least the end of February.
Not many investors are in the steam cell market now. If the ban gets overturned this and every other company specializing in it will go though the roof on speculation of new investors.
Do yourself a favor at buy at least $100.
nmarz77 01-06-2009, 01:21 PM U guys that just about doubled your money so far with my kv.a tip.
I got another huge one.
actc - advanced cell technologies. If Obama overturns the stem cell ban (which he probably will) this babys going from .05 to a dollar! Obama's probably not going to touch the issue till after he gets the economy settled down so we will see steady gain till at least the end of February.
Not many investors are in the steam cell market now. If the ban gets overturned this and every other company specializing in it will go though the roof on speculation of new investors.
Do yourself a favor at buy at least $100.
Where do you get yout "tips" from? Even if you don't want to tell...at least keep informing us when you get a good one. :lol: If you continue to be right we'll give you kick backs. lol
staticlag 01-06-2009, 04:08 PM Where do you get yout "tips" from? Even if you don't want to tell...at least keep informing us when you get a good one. :lol: If you continue to be right we'll give you kick backs. lol
Me and this other investor buddy have daily meetings on new topics and stocks.
Not right 100% of the time but we have narrowed down a few of the big movers in the last few months. The key of course is once you get the cards knowing at what time to play them.
that actc is a pretty good bet right now. Its really cheap, they were recently published, its a technology thats not really explored yet in the US. If you have an extra $1k i would throw it in, I wouldn't bet the farm on it though.
staticlag 01-07-2009, 09:12 AM actc up 67% today! So Far!
j67345 01-07-2009, 08:50 PM what is the best tool for me to get going with trading? etrade seems to be the most well known...but is there a good one? I want to play around a bit with this stuff...
staticlag 01-07-2009, 10:09 PM I'm using scottrade. Most trades are a flat rate of $7 unless you get some high volume of stock.
Once you sell stock they have this thing called a settlement period where u have to wait 3 days after u sell it before you can buy other stock with it.
Unless you sign up for a margin account, with $2k in the bank you have no waiting periods, once u sell your right back in the game. And on higher priced stocks they are willing to match your money.
But you can't "day-trade" unless you have more than $25,000 in the account this is a SEC requirement, that is no more than 3 day trades in a 5 buisness day period. day trade = buy the stock then sell it the same day. Otherwise its a sec rule they suspend your account for 90 days.
those are the basics I guess. Post if you have any other questions on stops or limits or the like.
Ross_Dawg 01-07-2009, 11:10 PM I've had Schwab since forever and have 0 complaints... I think it's $12 to trade and free for mutual funds
j67345 01-08-2009, 08:50 PM Nice, thanks for that info. I'll do a little research on this stuff and appreciate the help!
Winfree 01-10-2009, 02:31 AM Would be cautious about long term investments in embryonic stem cell work - simply because of failures in this area over the last 25 years while successes have been mostly in the other more mature cell sources. Part of this is because of the problems in collecting healthy cells from aborted sources - often there are contamination issues from bacterial and viral sources, and early embryonic cells, especially in transplants are apt to produce terratomas or cancerous tissue... look very carefully into who is doing the work and their success rate - this is an area where you can lose your shirt.
Production of 'human' proteins in yeast and bacterial hosts has proven very useful and may be a better investment - insulin is just one very good product of this. type...
abbid 01-10-2009, 06:20 PM ill be adding Altria and Dell to my mix pretty soon
possibly sprint or Level3 (LVLT)
LVLT on the day i made that post was $0.65
it closed friday @ $1.49
Ross_Dawg 01-10-2009, 06:21 PM did you pick some of it up fast enough? Damn... would've been a GB
abbid 01-10-2009, 06:44 PM NEXC might spike again in a week or two, should be good for a quick buck.
KV.A has the potential to hit 5 or more when they straighten out their manufacturing process.
NEXC recent headline:
As a result, Nasdaq has notified the Company that its common stock will be suspended from trading on The Nasdaq Stock Market effective at the opening of trading on January 13, 2009.
what do you think?
dillsrotary 01-26-2009, 10:56 AM U guys that just about doubled your money so far with my kv.a tip.
I got another huge one.
actc - advanced cell technologies. If Obama overturns the stem cell ban (which he probably will) this babys going from .05 to a dollar! Obama's probably not going to touch the issue till after he gets the economy settled down so we will see steady gain till at least the end of February.
Not many investors are in the steam cell market now. If the ban gets overturned this and every other company specializing in it will go though the roof on speculation of new investors.
Do yourself a favor at buy at least $100.
Its at .23 cents now......
staticlag 01-26-2009, 02:05 PM .28 cents!!!!
I got in at .05 :lol: Yay!!
staticlag 01-26-2009, 02:10 PM Another more risky investment right now is CBAI, I wouldn't hold it for more than a month tough.
j67345 01-26-2009, 07:50 PM I've been friggin watching the actc from the sidelines, since I had to open that trading account...and was hoping it would drop down a bit before I bought it...I missed the boat! It's probably too late to take a chance and buy in now though, huh? Or do you think it is going to keep going up?
staticlag 01-26-2009, 07:58 PM I've been friggin watching the actc from the sidelines, since I had to open that trading account...and was hoping it would drop down a bit before I bought it...I missed the boat! It's probably too late to take a chance and buy in now though, huh? Or do you think it is going to keep going up?
Tough call, Stem cell stuff is getting a ton of press now. ACTC is probably going to go higher, I have seen stocks like this jump from .07 to 1.20 practically overnight. Most of the rise is on speculation & day traders though, so I would watch it like a hawk. Though it could plummet at any sec. I have also seen stocks look extremely promising then they open and plummet to the ground. Honestly this isn't probably going to go down till the day Obama announces that he signed the bill, then everyone will sell & get out of these stocks like none other.
I would put in a buy tomorrow at like .21 usually around 9-10 am it dips as people profit take, then hold on tight till you hear word of the bill being signed then sell sell sell!!!
j67345 01-26-2009, 08:12 PM Nice, when is he supposed to sign this bill?
BOOSTD 7 01-26-2009, 08:33 PM Great call on ACTC ... I didn't get in on it, but I did get in on GERN at under $5.
Today's money makers were ESI shorts and AFL shorts. Got a nice mid-day ride on SKF too.
staticlag 01-26-2009, 10:44 PM Nice play on GERN, I was looking at it but it was too long term for me. I just got into CBAI before close at .007. Hopefully it will spike in the next three days or so.
staticlag 01-27-2009, 12:17 PM CBAI breaking news http://money.cnn.com/news/newsfeeds/articles/marketwire/0468941.htm
Winfree 01-27-2009, 01:26 PM Obama signed the stem cell bill, the company got enough money to get CNN and money talk to push it. But the product is a series of experiments that they could not raise enough money on the open market to fund - so all their funds are really federal grants - so its all quick money unless they get a product and live stem cells into brains is an old old bad idea - they do go to work and make connections but problems develop as they expand and grow - remember cancer is tissue that returns to an embryonic state - these cells are in an embryonic state! They will not work on people like they do in a mouse, you might be better using mouse embryonic cells and try to control the rejection...
So this will be get rich quick trading - then they will bundle it up and sell it to the mutual fund markets... And you don't get embryonic brain cells unless you are carving up the living brains of 'embryos'... I cannot predict the outcome but it will probably last just as long as the Federal money does - same same with wind generator fields...
Also on the radar - watch for the TV-electronic thing - the change over to digital is coming soon and most people are waiting until the last minute because they are either ignorant, too poor to make a buy, or hope it will all go away - this will also effect overseas markets ...
Expect cold winter trend to continue for about 6-10 more years...
staticlag 01-29-2009, 09:49 AM cbai .0187 !! Nice!
staticlag 01-29-2009, 09:59 AM cbai .0217!
Feras 01-29-2009, 10:17 AM i got in on this CBAI deal im in at .0186 hope it hits even 1 lol.
staticlag 01-29-2009, 10:20 AM I just bought in again at .0186 too!
Feras 01-29-2009, 10:21 AM awesome...hope this takes us places daddy wants a new car.
alnielsen 01-29-2009, 10:28 AM cbai .0217!Is that $0.02 /share? Risky penny stock?
Feras 01-29-2009, 10:35 AM that is correct...yeah its risky i wouldnt base a portfolio on it, but i can ride the wave with a few hundred bucks...its not that much to lose.
staticlag 01-29-2009, 10:37 AM Is that $0.02 /share? Risky penny stock?
Yup!
Risky penny stock is right!
I'm seriously going to consider selling at .035-.04. I'm just looking to make a few thousand on this trade.
I'm hoping it will do it for me, but if it flatlines over the next few days at anytime I may get out.
staticlag 01-29-2009, 10:39 AM .023
staticlag 01-29-2009, 10:40 AM I'd just like to stress that these stocks I have recommended are NOT long term investments by any means. Just stocks to make you a quick buck in a day or two.
Feras 01-29-2009, 10:46 AM yeah these guys might close their doors by tomorrow who knows...but take a look at the volume, this thing is propped up on balsa legs lol.
...0.0235
staticlag 01-29-2009, 10:48 AM I have a feeling that the people that were on actc are getting on CBAI now, it made googles main page yesterday and its up 87% today. A lot of these big day traders like to go in 3 day cycles. 3 days of gain then plummet to the ground.
staticlag 01-29-2009, 10:50 AM I have hunch though that this may or may not make it to .07 eventually. Same logic applies here, super cheap stock allows small investors to get into a new breaking technology in the US (stem cells)
abbid 01-30-2009, 01:33 AM I bought ~11k shares of cbai for .0095
Winfree 01-30-2009, 02:20 AM The sheep have been sheared to the quick - it's going to take some time to get investors back in until they feel safe from the Madoffs and other clever children - and the housing market is still rotten because half the banks can't even find the original papers on the people who got caught in the preditory loans - anything resold 40 times is apt to have bad paper!
Bailout money might help some insiders who know where the new contracts are headed - but they are not going to be much help to John Deer, or Texas Instruments!
TV situation set to get really silly on the 17th!
abbid 02-03-2009, 05:52 PM Bump
need new hot pick
/me glares at staticlag
j67345 02-03-2009, 07:39 PM Abbid, I was planning on asking the same thing!
On Friday I put THRA on my watch list at .48 & it's up to 1.39 today...I can't find any big news on that company though...why the huge sudden jump?
staticlag 02-03-2009, 10:54 PM Speculators, pump & dumpers.
I've got a few stocks on the back burner let me check them out a bit more before I recommend anything else.
I've still got a lot of hope for CBAI, i'm still in and am going to hang in there until stem cell news gets big press again hopefully in a week or two.
The markets are just pummeled with bad news now. Its going to be a really good time to buy soon as people get scared and drive the prices down with panic selling.
abbid 02-04-2009, 03:38 PM just bought a million shares of RMTD
dont know where its going but i figured i'd gamble
Winfree 02-06-2009, 01:54 AM There may be some sort of help for car buyers in the stimulus package like a big discount for persons trading in their old cars for new ones - this might bump auto market - if you make any money on this send me a set of strakes
Feras 02-06-2009, 07:23 AM Speculators, pump & dumpers.
I've got a few stocks on the back burner let me check them out a bit more before I recommend anything else.
I've still got a lot of hope for CBAI, i'm still in and am going to hang in there until stem cell news gets big press again hopefully in a week or two.
The markets are just pummeled with bad news now. Its going to be a really good time to buy soon as people get scared and drive the prices down with panic selling.
i bought AUY when the stock market started going down and its gone up nearly 70% since...my only mistake is only buying 700 shares.
j67345 02-09-2009, 09:12 PM okay, do I put in a bid for EESO tomorrow? If so, what price?
abbid 02-11-2009, 07:51 PM i bought in to EESO and about an hour later, the CEO issues a press release.. we will see what happens on the 27th!
j67345 02-11-2009, 08:50 PM What did you buy in at? It dropped to .018 today & bounced right back!
staticlag 02-11-2009, 08:54 PM I would wait a few more days on a buy, the markets are tanking right now. Wait for them to hit rock bottom.
j67345 02-11-2009, 09:08 PM got any thoughts on what to keep an eye on?
Winfree 02-11-2009, 11:02 PM Watch for bounces around Caterpiller - they had a big lay off but Obama says he will get them work and the CEO says if so he will start a rehire - and road eguiptment will need big tires...
Bank America got hit by Congress but they announced they are starting to pay off their bail out - so their stock might move a little.
But stocks went down cause some folks thought that they might need to move their money into safer harbors or even currencies...
staticlag 02-11-2009, 11:16 PM I'm watching SRZ senior living. It will probably go to 1.20 when this is all over. Question is how low it will go right now and when it will start back up.
BigRed 02-12-2009, 08:26 AM Although I'm not "playing" with real money, I'm in Economics class and my whole grade is playing in a stock market game... Two days ago when the market tanked (and this was my strategy), I was only invested in FAZ...it's 300% of the inverse of some financial index...I picked the best performing ETF that whole day, and I rose 25%! I sold it all at the end of the day, and the next day it went down 12$... Anyways, I just thought that I'd put that in there for people. Although it's EXTREMELY risky to put money into this ETF, the return could be close to immediate and worthwhile.
But hey, 18, what do I know :) ?
abbid 02-12-2009, 11:25 PM what did you buy in at? It dropped to .018 today & bounced right back!
.0255
j67345 02-13-2009, 06:52 PM I put in a buy this morning at .017...and it closed at .026 today. Hopefully it give us a nice jump!
staticlag 03-06-2009, 05:11 PM Ok boys, this is it http://www.usatoday.com/news/washington/2009-03-06-obama-stem-cells_N.htm
Obama is expected to sign the bill on monday. I suggest that you people that have been holding sell on that day.
Good luck to everyone!
Let the games begin! :arcadefre
j67345 03-06-2009, 06:25 PM I wish I could sell my stuff! I've taken a complete BATH the last couple weeks though!
abbid 03-06-2009, 08:16 PM sell on that day? why that day? why not a week later?
staticlag 03-08-2009, 03:44 PM sell on that day? why that day? why not a week later?
Well they will probably spike the highest tomorrow as initial investors & pump & dumpers are going to swarm it. Its tomorrow or maybe be stuck long term.
staticlag 05-18-2009, 02:48 PM Just bought CERP, Looks like its at the beginning of a 1-2 day push. I expect .24 easy tomorrow.
alnielsen 05-18-2009, 03:01 PM I'm going gold for the long term. I don't expect China to buy too much more of our debt and the the goverment will have to print money to finance all it's plans. Massive inflation will result. Gold is the only thing that made money in my IRA last year.
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