how long do you think would it take before dealers are willing to sell it for UNDER MSRP???

I'd say this announcement may just accelerate the discounting process a bit, and I'll be able to get an RX-8 w/ Sport Pkg for around 27.5k in about, oh i don't know, 3 months??? :D

Yeah, I think it lends some incentive to dealers to cut the price a bit to overcome this PR problem (I won't say nightmare). I would definitely use it to my advantage in negotiations.

Personally, I think Mazda marketing figured 250hp sounded a lot sexier than 238hp. They figured a couple of disgruntled early adopters was worth the price to get the RX-8 talked about as a S2000/350z beater. With a few mods it might. But, all those S2000/350zs are getting modded too. :p

Meh... it's marginal. The car is still as fast as C&D and others tested it, it's just missing a 'number' from its portfolio of traits. Big deal.

The people that give it up weren't interested in the RX-8... they were interested in the IMAGE of the RX-8. If it's not 250 horsepower and running with <insert car here> then it's not worth owning.

Let me say it now... the Honda Accord V6 is now rated at higher horsepower than the RX-8! *evil laugh*

:D

As far as I know, the car has been selling under MSRP for a while now... assuming you are willing to buy one of the more common packages (GT). My dealer was willing to sell a black GT, or a silver GT to me for 1K over invoice two weeks ago.

Let me say it now... the Honda Accord V6 is now rated at higher horsepower than the RX-8! *evil laugh*

Why the evil laugh? The accord V6 mated with the MT is actualy a "fairly" quick car.

BMW have managed to sell cars with a lot less HP than competitors (e.g. 330i vs Acura TL-S or G35 Sedan) because the performance is in the same ballpark.

If (and it is a fairly big IF) the RX-8 performance is CONSISTENTLY as promised (0-60mph in 6secs or less, 1/4 mile in 14.5 or less for most magazine reviews of PRODUCTION cars) then I don't think people will remember this HP fiasco a year from now.

Originally posted by ZoomZoomH
how long do you think would it take before dealers are willing to sell it for UNDER MSRP???

I'd say this announcement may just accelerate the discounting process a bit, and I'll be able to get an RX-8 w/ Sport Pkg for around 27.5k in about, oh i don't know, 3 months??? :D

I don't know how you guys negotiate or where you shop but I could have bought one 2 weeks ago for under MSRP.

well i live in northern VA, sort of a Mazda hotbed, and so far all the dealers here (all 6 of them) are still holding at sticker for their RX-8s...

and i STILL haven't seen one staying on the lot for more than 3 days that's NOT a pre-order...

i'd bet you don't live in an area where there's a big number of Mazda buyers, northern VA just happens to be one of them.

I can hand count 6 dealers within a 20 mile radius, and more if i include the whole metro DC area :)

Eh~ both US Accord Coupe MT and Nissan Altima MT have been tested to go 0-60mph in 5.9 seconds. (forgot which magazines, but it's there) Now those two cars both weight a lot more than the RX-8, have junky tires and are FWD grocery getters. I don't think the RX-8 has 238hp in this case. Straight line is not the strength of the RX-8, especually if you take the 8000rpm launch into consideration. Let's stick to the AutoX and mountain driving fun~

Originally posted by ZoomZoomH
well i live in northern VA, sort of a Mazda hotbed, and so far all the dealers here (all 6 of them) are still holding at sticker for their RX-8s...

and i STILL haven't seen one staying on the lot for more than 3 days that's NOT a pre-order...


Just got a letter from my Mazda salesman telling me 1 of the 4 I looked at 2 weeks ago was sold but the other 3 and a few others that have arrived are ready for a new home.

I will admot though, Milwaukee isn't exactly a hotbed for Mazda and certainly not for RWD import sportscars.

Ike

Originally posted by IkeWRX
I don't know how you guys negotiate or where you shop but I could have bought one 2 weeks ago for under MSRP. Of my three local (within 10 miles) Mazda dealers, one is sold out of the RX-8 until at least January, one is selling at MSRP, and one has a "low, no haggle price" of MSRP + $2000...

They are full of crap and trying to drive the prices up, it's common with new car models. The Evo 8 is a perfect example, dealers were trying to charge a premium but Mitsubishi will make as many of those cars as people are willing to buy, it's not limited at all.


Ike