View Full Version : Fidanza 8.5 LB flywheel, in car rev video.
abbid 05-10-2006, 09:48 PM www.abbid.com/rx8club/HPIM0010.3gp
This is quicktime, take a peek its pretty quick.
Spare me on the abuse, i dont care what you have to say :p
Nemesis8 05-10-2006, 09:57 PM YeaYeaYeaerrrrr YeaYeaerrrrr :yelrotflm Sorry, I could not help myself
Revs pretty quick, huh? New clutch also?
Moostafa29 05-10-2006, 10:20 PM Nice, that is the one thing I have yet to do, clutch and flywheel.
Winning 8 05-10-2006, 10:29 PM how it drive on street? what clutch you go with?
Bart! 05-10-2006, 11:05 PM Jesus oh mighty Christ, how much do I regret not putting in a flywheel when doing my clutch. INSANE! ^ good question Winning 8, how does it drive on the street???
Michael 05-10-2006, 11:06 PM Wow.
Bart! 05-10-2006, 11:06 PM Does this flywheel have the intergrated counterweight? Nevermind, just found out it doesn't. Where did you get your counterweight??
\\Konig\\ 05-10-2006, 11:24 PM Ive never heard of the fidanza flywheel name before, is that a good company? Did they just recently release it?
And yeah how is it on the street?
Winning 8 05-10-2006, 11:43 PM I want to do a flywheel too, but I only got 8k on it.
nice !
for those that wanted some info
http://www.fidanza.com/ItemDetails.aspx?fid=248&mid=241&mk=MAZDA&md=RX8&yn=04-05&eid=236&mkid=10
nycgps 05-11-2006, 12:11 AM I've never heard of that either. Is it good ?
but isnt that 8.5Lbs a little bit overkill for street? and how your legs feel so far?
lol I dont see how the flywheel would have any effect on his legs, a clutch maybe
I guess maybe he has to shift a lot more now ? :lol:
nycgps 05-11-2006, 12:40 AM whats excatly what I meant ! cuz now his RPM just *ZOOM* all the way up to 9K like in no time ... :rock:
Hmm sweet ... maybe I should really consider to upgrade the Clutch & flywheel first before anything else .... but seriously I've never heard of that company before.
Is it trust worthly ? Sorry that I sound like a nub but Im a nub :Freak_ani
should I just go Racing beat for Flywheel and Clutch ?
or should I go for MS flywheel with ACT clutch ? (its a bit off topic but ahh)
abbid 05-11-2006, 12:55 AM Im fairly sure Fidanza has been around a while. They are all over the miata forums if im not mistaken. Take a peek at their application chart, they sure do have alot of available parts for other cars. The counter weight was obtained through my rotary tuner for a little over 120 dollars. I thought that an 8.5 would be too difficult for daily street driving but it wasnt bad at all. My drive is 50/50 and i drive about 30 miles round trip. I stuck with a stock clutch, since i got it on ebay for 40 dollars shipped. When i first hopped into it i was expecting to drive away like a fool, but i adjusted to it in about 6 seconds. When cruising at like, 5k RPM on the freeway and i push in the clutch, the revs drop instantly, no delay. I also let my piston counterpart buddy drive my car, and he was unable to control the RPMS. You also need a special set of Flywheel screws, available through mazda as well as the counter weight. Overall, i believe its very worth it, i had to overnight it to arizona so that cost me an additional 70 dollars but the flywheel can be obtained via ebay for about 310 shipped. + counter weight, 140 + screws, 15. Labor was 350. I already needed a new clutch, since mine cracked like DMP's did, i figured id spring for some performance part also.
0-60 feels much improved, as well as second and 3rd gears overall acceleration. My butt dyno tells me that i shaved off between .2 and .3 off of my 0-60. When lifting off accel, the car is a bit more jerky, but thats a given and it doesnt bother me one bit. If i knew it was like this, i would have done this when i first got the car. I highly recommend it.
Rx7 and Rx8 flywheels and clutches are the same size, so the same part works for both, as long as its 240MM in diameter.
Direct from Fidanza:
Mazda RX7 - To ensure that your new aluminum flywheel was constructed to the optimum design, the factory counterweight must be used. This counterweight (part number N351-11-521) was used on RX7’s with automatic transmissions. This part is available through your local Mazda dealer. The use of Grade 8 or higher 10MM X 1.25MM X 21MM bolts to mount the counterweight is also required. T
swoope 05-11-2006, 01:24 AM Im fairly sure Fidanza has been around a while. They are all over the miata forums if im not mistaken. Take a peek at their application chart, they sure do have alot of available parts for other cars. The counter weight was obtained through my rotary tuner for a little over 120 dollars. I thought that an 8.5 would be too difficult for daily street driving but it wasnt bad at all. My drive is 50/50 and i drive about 30 miles round trip. I stuck with a stock clutch, since i got it on ebay for 40 dollars shipped. When i first hopped into it i was expecting to drive away like a fool, but i adjusted to it in about 6 seconds. When cruising at like, 5k RPM on the freeway and i push in the clutch, the revs drop instantly, no delay. I also let my piston counterpart buddy drive my car, and he was unable to control the RPMS. You also need a special set of Flywheel screws, available through mazda as well as the counter weight. Overall, i believe its very worth it, i had to overnight it to arizona so that cost me an additional 70 dollars but the flywheel can be obtained via ebay for about 310 shipped. + counter weight, 140 + screws, 15. Labor was 350. I already needed a new clutch, since mine cracked like DMP's did, i figured id spring for some performance part also.
0-60 feels much improved, as well as second and 3rd gears overall acceleration. My butt dyno tells me that i shaved off between .2 and .3 off of my 0-60. When lifting off accel, the car is a bit more jerky, but thats a given and it doesnt bother me one bit. If i knew it was like this, i would have done this when i first got the car. I highly recommend it.
Rx7 and Rx8 flywheels and clutches are the same size, so the same part works for both, as long as its 240MM in diameter.
Direct from Fidanza:
Mazda RX7 - To ensure that your new aluminum flywheel was constructed to the optimum design, the factory counterweight must be used. This counterweight (part number N351-11-521) was used on RX7’s with automatic transmissions. This part is available through your local Mazda dealer. The use of Grade 8 or higher 10MM X 1.25MM X 21MM bolts to mount the counterweight is also required. T
fidanza is well know,
my ? is did you weigh it.... as it does have a replacable fricton ring.... 8.5 sounds a bit light...
but i really think you are digging it!!!!
beers :beer:
abbid 05-11-2006, 01:27 AM I did weigh it. My scale is digital and it wasnt able to pick it up alone, so i had to weight myself twice, then i had to carry it and weigh myself twice, and it was indeed a change of 8.6 lbs. Yes, it does have an interchangeable friction ring ;]
swoope 05-11-2006, 01:34 AM nice to know,,,
a bit jealous.... the flywheel / clutch is next on my to do list.... now if i could just get all the parts that are the do. off the self and in the car...
beers :beer:
SSJ 909 05-11-2006, 01:37 AM So better low end, and better fuel?
Nice!
swoope 05-11-2006, 01:47 AM So better low end, and better fuel?
Nice!
no,
motor revs faster....
beers :beer:
Photic 05-11-2006, 01:51 AM Very nice. :)
Renesis_8 05-11-2006, 03:32 AM wow..... that is like..... modding in GT4 from street flywheel to racing fly wheel lol...... how hard is it to control the clucth now..... like with 3 passengers and congested traffic
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so after watching this vid, i decided to do my own..
here's the ACT streetlite flywheel:
http://ajax.completelyfreehosting.com/rx8/flywheel.avi
and just fyi, that flywheel is 13.5 lbs.. it was 395 including the counterweight.
i replaced the clutch at the same time w/RP's bonez clutch.
^ DAMN that vid makes the Fidanza piece look incredibly fast !!
How do you like the clutch ?
Hybrid-RX8 05-11-2006, 10:49 PM Out of all flywheel manufacturers.... Fidanza is probably one of the most well known and trusted in the industry....
I'm in the middle of installing the same flywheel and a new Spec Stage 3+ clutch on my turbo setup right now. My stock clutch is completely done. My mechanic told me that it was literally shredded when he took it out.
^ DAMN that vid makes the Fidanza piece look incredibly fast !!
How do you like the clutch ?The clutch is awesome and yes, it does make the fidanza look fast. I drive everyday in bumper to bumper traffic. I didn't want to deal with an 8.5lb (or a 9.9lb) flywheel during that. The nice thing about the 13.5lb fly is that it's not much harder to drive the car at all. The throttle response in all gears is great.
My favorite thing about this change was how consistant the gear changes are. The car revs so evenly it's just so much smoother.
Just imagine what the stock 22lb flywheel looks like in a video...
I saw it in real life after I watched the fidanza earlier today =( it is not pretty.
Soo the lighter the flywheel, the touchier the throttle response, I guess that is why it can be a hassle in every day traffic ? I hear a lot about flywheels in regards to drivability.
Im going to go read up about it and make an informed decision.
Hybrid-RX8 05-12-2006, 08:16 AM Just to let you guys know..the Fidanza flywheel is 8.5 pounds EXCLUDING the weight of the counterweight..which ads another 4-4.5 pounds totalling 12.5-13 pounds...
jaii13 05-14-2006, 11:43 PM Abbid, how's the car going up a steep hill from a stop?
abbid 05-15-2006, 08:34 AM I wouldnt know, theres no such thing as steep hills in arizona!
Hybrid-RX8 05-15-2006, 09:52 AM I just finished doing the install of the Fidanza flywheel and a SPEC STAGE 3+ clutch.
The flywheel is completely driveable and my car is daily driven. I've gone up some pretty steep inclines already with no issues. What takes getting used to the serious BITE this clutch has.
I have pics of install and will be posting soon.
nycgps 05-15-2006, 10:01 AM Just to let you guys know..the Fidanza flywheel is 8.5 pounds EXCLUDING the weight of the counterweight..which ads another 4-4.5 pounds totalling 12.5-13 pounds...
Hmm, the RB is 12 lb including the counter weight ? thats what it saids on RB's site(the site is down now, however)
so isnt that around the same ?
modforce 05-15-2006, 03:47 PM abbid did you used to have a mustang? I am from Az as well. Nice job onthe new flywheel!
zoom44 05-15-2006, 05:24 PM I wouldnt know, theres no such thing as steep hills in arizona!
ive been up into the superstitions to the area of the lost dutchman mine (totilla flats?) and those are fairly steep. coming into Phoenix from Havesu you have to go over some steep ones. Flagstaff has some steep hills too:)
abbid 05-15-2006, 05:39 PM abbid did you used to have a mustang? I am from Az as well. Nice job onthe new flywheel!
I've never had a mustang, i had a S2000 prior to the RX8, and a nissan altima prior to the s2k. What part of AZ?
success07 05-19-2006, 11:00 PM so after watching this vid, i decided to do my own..
here's the ACT streetlite flywheel:
http://ajax.completelyfreehosting.com/rx8/flywheel.avi
and just fyi, that flywheel is 13.5 lbs.. it was 395 including the counterweight.
i replaced the clutch at the same time w/RP's bonez clutch.
Ajax,
Your link is saying "page not found". I'd like to check out the video if possible for comparison to Abbid's video.
Ques. to all - From what is being posted in this thread, if the Streetlite is 13.5lbs. and Abbid's flywheel is 8.5lbs. + 4-5lbs for the counterweight = 12.5-13.5lbs. Why would Ajax's 8 seem slower reving?
Thanks in advance for your responses.
abbid 05-19-2006, 11:15 PM The streetlite also needs the counterweight.. Its 13.5 + the counterweight, it doesnt feature a built in counterweight..
success07 05-19-2006, 11:29 PM The streetlite also needs the counterweight.. Its 13.5 + the counterweight, it doesnt feature a built in counterweight..
Ok, then I misunderstood. When they advertise the weight of the flywheel at 13.5lbs., that is the flywheel only. I thought that weight meant the flywheel and counterweight were 13.5lbs. total. Thank you for the clarification.
Can the stock counterweight be re-used? I'm thinking "no" since no one has thought to mention that yet.
Thanks again
abbid 05-20-2006, 01:12 AM The stock counterbalance is built into the stock fly, its virtually impossible to get out.
gh0st 05-21-2006, 10:49 AM its also located at the outer most edge of the flywheel. even though the street lite + counterweight around the same or if not more then stock, most of the streetlites weight is located towards the middle.
i will try to post some pics of stock vs superlite with counterweight sometime next week.
There is no stock counterbalance. The stock flywheel is approximately 17 lbs and contains enough mass to counterbalance itself. The mass is distributed unevenly across the stock flywheel making it unpredictable at best.
The counterbalance is 3.66lbs. It's kinda interesting that my flywheel, while just barely heavier than stock (though I'm not sure of that, I need to call rotary performance and ask if they weighed it with the counterbalance) revs a lot faster than stock, but then it surely has better mass distribution giving it a much better moment of inertia which means it's less resistant to changing in velocity.
Let me log back into CFH. It should work fine but my account might be f'd up again.
EDIT: Looks like the CFH fileserver is acting up and that's the problem. I have another host but I'd rather not use it too much as that's not the intended purpose of that host. I need to make a new video anyway because being a dumbass, instead of flooring the throttle in that video, I'm actually leading the throttle, just like I drive.
NgoRX8 05-21-2006, 06:15 PM ooo, im digging that fidanza flywheel abbid. ;)
abbid 05-21-2006, 11:33 PM Here, dig this even more!
http://www.abbid.com/rx8club/flywheel.wmv
Crazy Rx-8 Driver 05-22-2006, 03:25 AM that is foookin awsome!, so that means you have to be even more sensitive with the gas pedal ?
have someone tape you while driving it! hehe i would love to see this in motion and between shifts and etc.
NgoRX8 05-22-2006, 03:38 AM haha, i love the "Screw you MNAO" part.
gh0st 05-23-2006, 01:14 AM is it me or does the sound seems faster then the image? might just be my stupid comp.
PoLaK 05-23-2006, 01:42 AM Just as a word of caution, I had lots of drivability issues with my Racing Beat lightened flywheel and mazdaspeed clutch. Never felt quite right, clutch burnt when it shouldn't have, couldn't hold the car still on a steep incline with just release the clutch till it caught, bitch to get up my driveway.
I honestly still think it was a problem between the compounds on both disks, but RB says otherwise, stock components are back in after all of the flywheel friction material was burnt off (mirror finish).
abbid 11-07-2006, 11:57 PM Bump!
swoope 11-08-2006, 12:06 AM ok,
i am having no problems with my act prolite flywheel and exedy stage 1 pp and disk... it makes a big difference in acceleration....
i will say that the engage point on the stage 1 is very short...
beers :beer:
zenmoused 11-09-2006, 02:12 AM Looks good. Can't wait to do this to my car. I just like the idea of less rotating mass for the engine to power. That's gotta free up some hp and mpg. Notice any difference in power since the installation?
swoope 11-09-2006, 02:17 AM had flywheel done with new motor.. mpg more gooder!!! and i had great mileage before...
now the mileage is still good.. but the acelleration is great...
really if you look at my sig... it is in the best bang for the buck order...
beers :beer:
Cool-Blue-Dad 11-13-2006, 08:03 PM i am having no problems with my act prolite flywheel and exedy stage 1 pp and disk... it makes a big difference in acceleration....
i will say that the engage point on the stage 1 is very short...Hmmm, I know you're good about your research swoope - what drove you to that exact pair?
Do you find them suitable for daily/casual driving as well as the more exhubernt sort of spirited driving we prefer?
swoope 11-13-2006, 10:27 PM Hmmm, I know you're good about your research swoope - what drove you to that exact pair?
Do you find them suitable for daily/casual driving as well as the more exhubernt sort of spirited driving we prefer?
i got the prolite new from a fellow member, was never installed. then the motor swap came up faster than i expected.. i had to put it off for a week waiting for the clutch.
it was timing... i need a clutch fast... and that one was what i could get fast...
yes,
it is fine for daily driving... just takes a day to get used to it...
also the engagement point i am wondering about might be related to the tsb out for the clutch slave... am going to be bleeding brakes and the clutch in 1500 miles so i will know then...
and once again. the lightweight flywheel is the best bang for the buck... but is not cheap...
beers :beer:
babohan 11-13-2006, 10:31 PM fidanza rocks!!!!! go fidanza go!
TownDrunk 03-05-2007, 10:37 AM Abbid,
Which clutch did you install with the flywheel? I'm curious whether you chose one of the Fidanza clutches (like the 3.2) or something else entirely.
I'm currently flywheel shopping and Fidanza has made my short-list.
chickenwafer 03-05-2007, 04:48 PM A clutch and flywheel is high on my to-do list. Abbid's revving vid is insane! That should be an advertisment for Fidanza!
So you need the flywheel, plus counter weight, plus bolts, plus install? And while I'm doing that, I would get a new clutch too, so add a clutch and install of that. Now it's getting pricey! :(
TownDrunk 03-05-2007, 04:55 PM A clutch and flywheel is high on my to-do list. Abbid's revving vid is insane! That should be an advertisment for Fidanza!
So you need the flywheel, plus counter weight, plus bolts, plus install? And while I'm doing that, I would get a new clutch too, so add a clutch...
Exactly. I figure if I'm changing the flywheel, may as well give the clutch some love too :D:
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