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kwescott
12-26-2005, 04:08 PM
Please submit your photos for the San Bernardino 2005-2006 Calendar here. Please indicate which month they are for. This will assist us in voting for our favorites. For those who want to make collages on their own, please submit those for review so that everyone can vote on the final product.

Below is a listing of the months:

January (Viper)...............................page complete (post # 167, I think second pic).
February (Carribean Spice Boy)...............page complete (Post # 337...pic2)
March (Lesper4)...........................page complete (post # 368....2nd pic).
April (Toca)..................page complete (Post # 354...pic2)
May (Speeddemon32).............page complete (post # 263)
June (Kwescott).................page complete (post # 144...pic number2)
July (Xrider).......................page complete (post # 331...pic 2)
August (Cesaralaniz).............page complete (Post # 226...2nd pic)
September (Jedi54)...........page complete (Post # 334....2nd pic)
October (Snowfl8k)..............page complete (Post # 142)
November (KrazieKave).........page complete (Post # 395...pic5)
December (Zootender)..........page complete (Post # 324....last pic)

I would like to have all submission in by next weekend (January 7th/8th) so that we can have a final product ready for our next scheduled meet (Jan.12th). Calendars are 19.99 each, and I would like to have all monies collected prior to purchase. I have a Paypal account, or you can mail checks. When we get closer to that time, I can send out that information to those involved.

Orders:
Zootender (ordered 3) Payment pending
Vipers (ordered 2) Payment Confirmed
Jedi 54 (ordered 2) Payment received
Lesper4 (ordered 1) Payment Confirmed
Kwescott (ordered 1) Payment received
Snowfl8k (ordered 1) Payment received
KrazieKave (ordered 1) Payment confirmed
SpiceBoy (ordered 2) I'm sure he's good for it :)
Toca (ordered 1) Payment confirmed
Xrider01 (ordered 1) Payment confirmed
Speeddemon32 (ordered 1) payment confirmed
Cesaralaniz (ordered 2) Payment confirmed

kwescott
12-26-2005, 04:11 PM
Here are five that I have originals on.

kwescott
12-26-2005, 04:12 PM
We still have not received confirmation from Spiceboy or Toca in this month. Are you guys interested, and would you be purchasing a calendar?

Spice Boy has reserved February and has sent me pics.

kwescott
12-26-2005, 04:13 PM
These are originals that I have (Except for Pic #5, which I beleive is Lesper's).

kwescott
12-26-2005, 04:15 PM
Spice Boy, Toca...or anyone else for that matter. Who wants April?

Toca has resevered April. I need some pics submitted.

kwescott
12-26-2005, 04:16 PM
Here are originals that I have.

kwescott
12-26-2005, 04:17 PM
These are originals that I have.

kwescott
12-26-2005, 04:18 PM
My originals.

kwescott
12-26-2005, 04:19 PM
Here are originals that I have, except for Pic #1 (which I think is Krazie's)?

kwescott
12-26-2005, 04:21 PM
Here are my originals.

kwescott
12-26-2005, 04:22 PM
My originals.

kwescott
12-26-2005, 04:23 PM
My originals, except pic 3 (I think this is Krazie's).

kwescott
12-26-2005, 04:23 PM
Can't really be considered just Zootender pics, but these are the only ones I have. Anyone else have more?

vipers
12-26-2005, 04:34 PM
dammit..... i read your post after i posted my pics.....
http://www.rx8club.com/showthread.php?p=1173167&posted=1#post1173167

kwescott
12-26-2005, 04:57 PM
Viper, what is your schedule like this week. Do you think we could set up a time before or after work to hit up some photo spots. Today would be a great time to hit that fog section of Twin Peaks up. With all the moisture in the air, we may get a little wet heading up there, but if ewe take some towels, it could be some interesting shots.

speeddemon32
12-26-2005, 04:58 PM
I like the Idea of having a few pictures per person. kinda like the sigs we all have. one main pic, and then a few little ones around it. :)


I would like to get a good pic as my main one with the new wing before production. that was at leas it is up to date..... and it looks better!

for mine at least I would like a new pic for the main, for the small pics, one of the stereo, one of the new interior, one of under the hood, maybe one of the wheels/rotors......... you know what i mean. :rock:

meshell
12-26-2005, 05:03 PM
I would like to put my 2cents in. Kwescott I liked the one of your car by the tree. With the month that you are in and the fact it really shows your car off.

I like snows with the sun set pic's because they are differnt from others and I think they go with your month. I like both sun sets so thats as much as I could help out with.

I think Vipers need to be Orange because thats Viper. ok thats my 2cents for now.

lesper4
12-26-2005, 05:42 PM
KC You mean something like this? I made this, I madethis one before I got my 8. For those of you with a few mods or a few good pictures this would be a great idea.

Zoo you are welcome to use that picture because I will not be but you should keep your eye open for any spots avaible in the area and I am sure that are a few. You will find that you start to driveing around with your camera in the car.

Speaking of photo-ops not too mention the refinery in Fontana but there is also the refinery south side of the 10 that has flames coming out :Eyecrazy:

I will go through my pics this week and post what have not already been posted.

kwescott
12-26-2005, 05:50 PM
I do like the looks of the B/W main with colored accent pics. I like the one you did of the three cars and the one you did of speeds. Let me find those and I'll post them. This will give us some discussion over what we want to do. I think this is classy...and even better because it will be our cars. I think the sigs I made are too busy...too much going on. Sometimes, more is not better.

Wouldn't you all agree that the first three look cool, but the siggy is just too much?

KrazieKave
12-26-2005, 06:01 PM
Here is my pic of zootender's

kwescott
12-26-2005, 06:11 PM
What do you think about something like this for March?

kwescott
12-26-2005, 06:29 PM
This was done in about 5 minutes and is meant for discussion purposes. Same goes for the one I did with Speeds pics.

The first and second pics here are different...which do you think looks better? What about the third, with the jagged edges?

lesper4
12-26-2005, 06:38 PM
looking good i would keep in mind pictures with a lot of color, maybe should not be desaturated (B&W) and have the one that are less vibrate be the black and white ones. For example the fog is very gray already but the night tree had so much orange and the speedway had many colors. I would also try making the images a little small so that the ratios do not compete as much. We could also choose a universal font (mazdaspeed style or mazda rx-8 style) so we could name the owners car. but i am definitly liking it.

ANY BODY KNOw WHAT FONT THOSE ARE?

kwescott
12-26-2005, 08:14 PM
Loren, you know of any cool night locations within 10 minutes of us? Those refineries, where are they? Good for night shots?

I added a "reversed" combo...with the main picture Black and White, with the smalls in color. I don't know how to mask out my car though. I would love to do what you did with Speeds....make the background B/W, and leave my car in full color. I know it doesn't seem like it would make a difference since I have a black car, but it does. It is just so much more brilliant in color.

lesper4
12-26-2005, 08:40 PM
I think the refineries with the flames is off of Pepper and the other one is just down the street from the Mills. I don't know the area that well but I was talking to Erica about it, we also have the Mills parking structure/the Edwards theater drop-off zone, (late at night with out all the people) and there is also cement mountain with the flag lit up in the background in Colton.

Over by KC if you take the last right before S&W plastics there is a cool gravel birm you can park on top of that would look greally good. There is also the big rocks by the shell station more north west on the 15 similar to Jashua Tree, thats about all I can think of right now.

What do you think about the inverse of your picture, I like it much better, you might even consider swapping the fog for the dead tree, just playar aound with it till you get one you like. To do the color Black& white stuff you need photoshop or you would need to edit two seperate pictrues and then marry them back together.

Not feeling the jagged edges at first but after I saw the whole image against the background of the rocks it does look good. The questions is can everyone do something like that and if not do we want the months varied like that. I guess we have to settle on some type of overall master format of which we can vary some yet following the rules (format).

kwescott
12-26-2005, 08:54 PM
I agree with the idea of getting a general format, and then allowing for some variation. At this point, I like the photoshop ability to B/W and leaving the car, and accompanying shots in color.

As for fonts, I was looking at the back of my car...looks like we have three separate fonts for the "Mazda", "RX-8" and "Mazdaspeed". I do think we need to make the font a standard as well.

I found a site with over a thousand free font downloads. http://www.1001freefonts.com

I like the reversed shot as well, only if I could get the car in the big pic to be in color, I think that would look good.

As for putting a name on the pics, I don't know if I see that as something we need? I don't know. The month will be on the bottom page, with the days of the week and such. Maybe just leaving it as a picture collage would be best.

Come on peoples, who else is chiming in here. Loren and I can't be the only ones on right now.

lesper4
12-26-2005, 08:56 PM
Heres your special delivery

Oh and by the way Office Depot does calender for $20 12 month plus cover page with borders around the pictures they can do either 8 glossy or 110 glossy for the same price. Keith do you know the quality of the paper from Kinkos?

SnowFl8k
12-26-2005, 09:01 PM
Keith - I like #2. Are we gonna put our names somewhere on the month? or just leave it up to us to know whose is whose?

As for a night shoot - what about a pic from that lake in Riverside overlooking the I.E.? (if you get off the 15 at Cajalco and take it up over the hill to the other side?) There is also the Kaiser parking structure in Fontana ( you could fina an empty area) Or somewhere over by the 10 and the 15 with the planes landing in the background?

kwescott
12-26-2005, 09:05 PM
I dont know the type of paper. I could call tomorrow.....

I call this one....Tree Lesper Style...:) I love the way the calipers stand out...can't do it with my B/W skills on Flash.

#3 has a font added. Stacatto something I think...

kwescott
12-26-2005, 09:48 PM
Loren, could you BW the first Snowfl8k pic?

lesper4
12-26-2005, 09:51 PM
OK here is my first round, the pictures at the top are possible replacements, there is one more from the farmer boys meet that might be a replacement as well, Keith it posted orginaly earlier ( http://www.rx8club.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=65990 ). I want to hit the refiners up possibly wednesday as well...so i can get a nice and stronge background image.

Keith yoru last version is pretty sick with the orange tree :ylsuper:

This Image? OK I see revised.....I think I am going to get highspeed/cable for the new year :Eyecrazy:


Too bad you cant get a shot of your car like this Vanguish, that is some PROFESSIONAL lighting. REVISED MARCH!

kwescott
12-26-2005, 09:57 PM
here's some....The black and white is so hard because color is so much what makes these shots for Erica.

kwescott
12-26-2005, 10:03 PM
Loren, I like the top right pic better than the bottom left night pic you have.....I think it we went back to the "Victoria Gardens" spot on the ramp and angled your car more ( a 3/4 shot), I think that would be an awsome shot that may be "center" worthy.

It sucks cause I'm off for two weeks now for the holidays...I just wish everyone else was so we could set up some photo shoots. We have so many good photos, but there is always something that could be better with each of them. Too bad we aren't pros. :)

kwescott
12-26-2005, 10:23 PM
I like the revised March better. What does it look like without the top image?
Lets see some "Loren style"s for Cesar now. (Pics 2 and 4 I think would look awsome).

Note: to everyone who purchased the "Beers around the world" set from Costco....La Rossa from Italy sucks.

kwescott
12-26-2005, 10:32 PM
One of the pics I had for Cesar was from Krazie. I need the original it Cesar decides that he want to use that water crossing shot. The one I have is such bad quality it is blurry. I put a fourth pic in just to hold the place.

Note: Ugggh, Bitburger from Germany is even worse. Why does this stuff suck so bad? I had one last night I seriously put down the drain. Talk about bitter beer face. I'm gonna look for the bottle...one sec.

Franziskaner from Germany...yup, the worst beer in the world can be bought at Costco. :)

lesper4
12-26-2005, 10:40 PM
OK after retouching the color and removing a digital camera and an arm it is ready. I am still not digging my center image but hopefully I will fix that this week.

And I did a quick change to my avatar but I still cant seem to get them as big as others make them.

Sorry no pics, I like corona and XXX, that is really about it, pass tha hard licquor my way.

THE REAL CESAR!!

kwescott
12-26-2005, 10:43 PM
OK after retouching the color and removing a digital camera and an arm it is ready. I am still not digging my center image but hopefully I will fix that this week.

And I did a quick change to my avatar but I still cant seem to get them as big as others make them.

send the file to me and then I can send it back to you...see if I can make it bigger.

Givetokeith@yahoo.com

lesper4
12-26-2005, 10:44 PM
log onto aim it is faster,NA?

kwescott
12-26-2005, 10:51 PM
log onto aim it is faster,NA?
erica signed it up and I have never used it...so don't know the password. I tried the usual ones but no luck.

You actually did an autocross pic of Speeddemon....did I put the wrong one in Cesar's group. His number should be #33?

ZooTender
12-27-2005, 02:30 AM
Well, if I don't get a chance to take any solo pictures of my car I like this one from lesper pretty good.

http://www.rx8club.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=65830 :dunno:

Ok I couldn't figure out how to get it to actually show the picture. :sad:

I have some idea's of pictures I'd like to take but don't know if I'll have the time.

vipers
12-27-2005, 04:05 AM
damn...im really liking the black/white/color pics......really makes the cars "pop"......

keith.....sorry, i was working earlier, so i couldnt respond.......im off on wednesday, if your not busy, maybe we can get some good shots of her then........ only if your not busy though! just lemme know (just keep in mind that w/ my current motor taking a dump on me, i cant drive too far)

speeddemon32
12-27-2005, 10:34 AM
wow..... lot of posting!

I do like the B/W backround, with the car still in color, but depending on the picture, I like full color. like if I were to use my snow picture, I would want that in full color/ (but I am not)

I also still like the Idea of having "mod" shots. maybe 4-5 small pictures of favorite mods on the car. In mycase i would like the stereo, Under hood, wheel/brake, interior, and maybe even a closeup of the new wing.


__________________________________________________ _____________

also Kwescott, I noticed on some of yours, there are a few that have your main picture and then in your small pictures you have the night tree shot. from a distance (or thumbnail) that ONE picture really stands out, might want to get a small picture that is not SOOO bold. (does this make sence?)


anyways, that is just my $.02 :bootyshak


oh yeah, also as for the names, I am for adding the persons screen name someplace small and not to obviouse, but hey thats just me. :)

also is there going to be a cover pic? If so I vote for the pic that has us all in the "V". that was a pretty good shot. that one of us up in the mountains is nice to but that damn eclipse screwed it up.

Jedi54
12-27-2005, 12:16 PM
Wow...TONS of posting!

Okay, here's my $.02

- I'm thinking collage type pages is gonna be the way to go. Just SO hard to pick only ONE picture.

1) Erica - I like the 2nd one on post #32. The first one is nice but putting those B/W pics takes away from the cool sunset in the back.

2)Loren - I like the 3rd picture on post #36. I actually really like the center pic that you used. Those rocks in the background look pretty cool (plus it's one of the few pics of the Malibu Run)

3) Cesar - I like the 2nd one on post #35.

I have a few pics that might help some of the people here out but I'll have to steal my camera back from my girlfriend and post them tonight...stay tuned.

Jedi54
12-27-2005, 12:20 PM
Keith,

I really like the picture you took of my car in front of that tree. I am really leaning towards using that for my center pictures.

I have some other pictures that I'd like to contibute BUT my photoshop skills are seriously lacking... :o:

If I post the pics up here, can someone help me with the collage?

kwescott
12-27-2005, 12:49 PM
Zoo....that is a cool shot, especially for yoiur month December. I'm just not too excited about the resolution. I know Krazie sets his camera up for low settings, so that he doesn't have to reduce the size for web posting. I set mine on the highest setting, but then have to do a lot of work reformatting them for the web.

Speed and Jedi, use your photoshop skills to put up ideas. The ones that Lesper and I posted last night were to help discussion....cause I still don't know what I really like either.

Speed, I agree that the night picture stands out...I'm still waiting for some submissions from others so that i can see what other pictures there are of me out there.

Viper...I'm not working for two weeks...so wednesday is fine. Maybe you could scout out some places with your "yellow scout car" that you could get to with your motor. If you find some good places, maybe we could get some sunrise pics? How far do you think you'd be able to get...Crestline?.....down the street?...roll down the driveway? :)

meshell
12-27-2005, 02:56 PM
So is the plan to do everyone’s in the black and white with extra pic's or can the owner pick the way their lay out is? :)

O' I like the idea with putting your screen names on it (small)

vipers
12-27-2005, 03:01 PM
i think the cover pic should be the "v" also.......definently the best one of the group we have....

keith.... yeah, ill try to scout some areas tonight when i get home..... i live right next to san mateo canyon, so ill see what out there, i wanna try to get some pics of my car in front of orange groves..... i think that would look good.... and there are some right up the street from my house.... so ill see what out there also.....

FastRX8
12-27-2005, 04:01 PM
Viper...I'm not working for two weeks...so wednesday is fine. Maybe you could scout out some places with your "yellow scout car" that you could get to with your motor. If you find some good places, maybe we could get some sunrise pics?
I'll join you if you do sunrise photos.

Do you want to take some pics today?
I'm leaving work at 3:45, and planning to head 15N to 138 to crestline.

I really like the 2nd pic on post #35.
I'd like to add the pic that's on my avatar if the resolution is there, and I really want to use the pic of me driving through the water if there's a good copy somewhere. Of course, if they're the small pics, the quality doesn't have to be as good, right?

- Cesar -

P.S. Check your pm's.

KrazieKave
12-27-2005, 05:36 PM
the water if there's a good copy somewhere.

I should have the original of that pic, i will look for you right now!

these arent the originals, but they are posted on the first couple of pages on this thread~

(The Water RUN)

lesper4
12-27-2005, 05:55 PM
not going to be joining anybody on a cruise tonight but i defenitly want to swing by the plant in fontana tomorrow as long as i get my car back, you guys will have to do the reconasence for me.

kwescott
12-27-2005, 08:13 PM
went to catch up with Cesar up at Crestline today, but the 15 was a parking lot...so didn't make it up there. I did go back to the "sunset" spot to get some of my ride this time.

Cesar, get anything good?

kwescott
12-27-2005, 08:31 PM
Cesar, here's two versions of that auto X shot. Which do you prefer, the original or cropped version?

kwescott
12-27-2005, 09:19 PM
KC, please post some pics of your interior, and one of your rim/tire (without the date stamp on) :)

kwescott
12-27-2005, 09:27 PM
Here's one with the Black and White main photo, with the car in color ("Lesper special")...and with four photo slots for mods or additional shots (in color)....along with the screename at the bottom.

Now since I didn't have a pic of Speed's interior/radio, or a recent pic of the wing...I've put two pics to hold the place for those. Also, I realize that the rim/wheel pic has a date stamp. I hate date stamps, and think they would look bad in the calendar. I've asked for a newer pic from Speed to replace this one as well.

My idea with the screen name is to use the same font, same size, and have two layers. The front layer would always be black (goes with the Black and white theme of the main pi), and then a second/back color in the car color. In this case, yellow.

I like the font, but of course, we could always change this as well.

Opinions....?

lesper4
12-27-2005, 09:51 PM
Keith if you give me the image I could probabley photoshop the dates out, as for his stereo I have this picture (what a drity floor). I think it is looking good though, question is, is it unamious (SP) for the color format...if we can get a format down this can go a lot faster. say somethign like:
-black n white w/ color image with color thumbnails accross the top or bottom or down the side (pick on eside only for images), pic a common thumbnail size say 1.5x2.5 (?, or what ever the ratio is) same with the text, font and size...color can change with the car. It would be cool if we can get each MAIN image to be different, i.e. not all snow or dead tree or facotry or parking strutrue etc.


ahhh what else?

kwescott
12-27-2005, 09:58 PM
I vote for Black and White center pic (with car in color), and four pics across the top in color. I also like the idea of screen names now that I see what it looks like.

What is your vote?

refer back to post 54

lesper4
12-27-2005, 10:02 PM
double post no pictures keith

kwescott
12-27-2005, 10:12 PM
Loren, could you BW the second pic I just posted of me at sunset, as well as Jedi's dead tree shot.

lesper4
12-27-2005, 10:48 PM
Keith post #56, the picture does not show. I hope these are the right pictures.... I am in the middle of cleaning up after a xmas tree, the word from the body shop is that my car SHOULD be ready tomorrow evening....did you ever get your body work done? I like the text on your orginal post but do we want something different?

Hey did anybody here about the law starting 06 that when you get in an accident and another party is hurt and it is your fault you will spend 30 days in jail? Does that seem weird or has it always been similar to that?

Ask Erica what your passwords are for instant messengers?

SnowFl8k
12-27-2005, 10:55 PM
What do you guys think about outlining the little pics in same color as the car to keep the grays of the pics from blending into the b/w background?

kwescott
12-27-2005, 11:04 PM
AIM name is RXZ88M...yup, those are the right pics. Thanks. Thought that if Jedi was going to use the tree pic, that I would take your suggestion to use different pics. I'm going to try that new one you sent me....

FastRX8
12-27-2005, 11:16 PM
I went up to hwy 138 today after work.
I took tons of photos, using different camera filters, and slightly different angles.

Rather than post tons of similar pics, I've uploaded them to my website for you guys to give me some input if you can.

I have 2 different photoalbums.
The first is a smaller size (640x480 friendly).
The second is the fullsize pic.

Use the First Album to see the whole scene.
The second album was made incase anyone wants to download the fullsize pic and photoshop it.

First Album (http://www.cesaralaniz.com/CalenderOptions)

Second Album (http://www.cesaralaniz.com/CalenderOptionsFullsize)

I'm going to try to go tomorrow morning at sunrise to take pics by the lake with the sun rising behind the car. I can only stay there until 6:30, then I have to head out to work, so I may not get the shot I'm looking for.

- Cesar -

BTW - My favorites where 12, 16, 20, 26, 27, 53
This is for my main pic on August.

speeddemon32
12-27-2005, 11:16 PM
I like how my sample turned out. I agree about the time stamps, I finnally turned that off on my camera.


How about Just like my sample.... that seems to be what everyone likes.

I know you had the last pic for a place holder, but how about replacing it with this one of under the hood. I like everything else for mine..... now I just need another main pic, what do you think of the one below, it's nothing special, but it is a new pic.

FastRX8
12-27-2005, 11:19 PM
Keith -
Cropped Autocross pic.
Maybe even more cropped if possible, almost like the avatar I have.
Thanks

- Cesar -

kwescott
12-27-2005, 11:20 PM
speed...I like the main pic we have right now...do you think you could get back up there and re-create with your car now? not now of course, cause it's dark, but you know what I mean.

Cesar, checking your pics now.

I think pic #53 is my favorite. The others are portrait format and will leave a whole bunch of white space on your month. Pages are landscape format (8.5 x 11). The only way to improve on the shot you have in #53 (in my opinion), was to go more from the side, or to have your wheels turned. I want to be able to seperate your car from Speeddemon's. Your wheels are a big styling element that makes your car yours, and you can't really pic them up in #53.

On a side note, that looks like an awsome location. Both Erica and I reacted the same way when we saw 53 for the first time...."wow".

speeddemon32
12-27-2005, 11:22 PM
that would be dificult with it getting dark when I get off work. but I will try. maybe on monday (I have the day off)

I hate to bug you guys, but can I see an updated sample? (if it is easy to do)

lesper4
12-27-2005, 11:29 PM
Buy the way i think if we do a border around the thumbnail we should use black (small) the color might be a little to contrasting.

From Cesar batch this pic is pretty sweet.
http://www.cesaralaniz.com/CalenderOptions/photos/photo48.html

kwescott
12-27-2005, 11:33 PM
that intake shot is incredibly blurry, but here's a sample with the right top pic removed.

Lesper would have to take that recent car pic and do his magic to it before I could replace the center pic.....Lesper, Casey wouuld like that second pic he posted to be B/W'd.

Ok, thanks Loren.

Speed...the pic is formatted in a way that i can not get it to fit the 8.5x11 sizing. This is what it would look like stretched to fit.

kwescott
12-27-2005, 11:37 PM
Cesar, here is one where it is cropped more...like this? or bigger?/croppier? :)

Loren, can you B/W photo #53 from Cesar's photobook. Lets try that one first since it is one he liked.

Cesar...opinions. Others, Opinions...?

lesper4
12-27-2005, 11:43 PM
Here you go...keith can you give me teh direct link...why dont you anwser the aim?, i am tagoom

speeddemon32
12-28-2005, 12:05 AM
is this a better intake pic?

lesper4
12-28-2005, 12:12 AM
OK here you go...as for cesars the auto cross pic of the car itself seems a little small. it is nice to have a nice and large picture for the main portion.

kwescott
12-28-2005, 12:12 AM
yes, but the damn date stamp :) I think I like the engine pic better with the engine cover on....I'll change the pics out and post here.....

FastRX8
12-28-2005, 12:12 AM
Cesar, here is one where it is cropped more...like this? or bigger?/croppier? :)
Keith -
Bigger/Croppier if you can.
I real don't care for the 3rd pic. The autocross pic cause of the tape.
If you guys think it looks OK, I can live w/ it, but it's not my first choice.

Also, the pic from the back of my car. Can we put one that has that angle, but includes my license plate?

I'll go tomorrow and get the pic you suggested. More wheels.


- Cesar -

kwescott
12-28-2005, 12:26 AM
Xrider...haven't heard anything from you on this subject...maybe these will spur you on.

I know you have pictures of mods, like stereo and interio...is this something you wouuld like to have, and if so, which pictures would you like to replace....pic numbers are 1, 2, 3, and 4...from left to right.

FastRX8
12-28-2005, 12:26 AM
(2) Is there an extra charge for multiple pictures for one month (photo collage like our sigs).

Response-No extra charge, the only extra fees are for specific indications in the calendar section, like if you wanted June 22nd to read "Keith's Birthday". Youu get five of these for 5 bucks. Basically a dollar a piece, but come in 5 group bunches. (now why you would want to do this when you can simply write this is yourself is beyond me, but anyways).
Is that extra fee for each calender they print?
If it's only a one time fee, then the calender prices are the same, I'd like to get them added.
I'll never write things in a calender. If it's a one time fee, I'll pay it for the group.
I'd like to add birthday's and any other days that may be important to the group.
Weddings :naughty: , anniversaries :cuddle:

That's my $.02, which may turn into $20.

- Cesar -

kwescott
12-28-2005, 12:28 AM
Zoo, you interested in going on a photoshoot tomorrow. You could go to the "sunset" spot here in Fontana....near Cherry and the 210 freeway, or come with Lesper, Snowfl8k and I to the refinery on Pepper tomorrow. We need more shots of you and Krazie....Krazie, you up for that?

kwescott
12-28-2005, 12:30 AM
Is that extra fee for each calender they print?
If it's only a one time fee, then the calender prices are the same, I'd like to get them added.
I'll never write things in a calender. If it's a one time fee, I'll pay it for the group.
I'd like to add birthday's and any other days that may be important to the group.
Weddings :naughty: , anniversaries :cuddle:

That's my $.02, which may turn into $20.

- Cesar -

I would assume it for each one they print, but I can check. But, if it turns out that it is for each individual calendar, I guess you could customize yours a little more.

I should start a collection jar, for all these .02 I'm getting :)

lesper4
12-28-2005, 12:32 AM
kc pics
- the car is too big and cropped it need more space either top or bottom i am still diggintteh 215 shot better.
cesar
-looking nice
xrider
-i think we need a better variety of shots...he does have the sub box and teh custom seats?

lesper4
12-28-2005, 12:35 AM
I'll never write things in a calender. If it's a one time fee, I'll pay it for the group.
I'd like to add birthday's and any other days that may be important to the group.
Weddings :naughty: , anniversaries :cuddle:
- Cesar -
AND SEVENSTOCK 9?

kwescott
12-28-2005, 12:38 AM
...as for cesars the auto cross pic of the car itself seems a little small. it is nice to have a nice and large picture for the main portion.

I totally agree, but just wanted to post it to see what he thought.

kwescott
12-28-2005, 12:43 AM
Krazie...I need some feedback on this...or some more pics that you would like to subsistute.

kwescott
12-28-2005, 12:51 AM
What do you guys think about outlining the little pics in same color as the car to keep the grays of the pics from blending into the b/w background?

What do you think Snow? What does everyone else think of the outline on the small pics. I think it looks good.

lesper4
12-28-2005, 12:53 AM
Also after looking at the pictures I think they might turn out better if they were daytime, sunrise or senset but not night pictures everything kind of gets lots and the thumbs do not pop off the page that much.

Keith almost perfect Are you 100% on the background image...i think the thumbs need to be smaller to leave a larger gap between them..it looks cramped. Black could be a little smaller and consistant in width

kwescott
12-28-2005, 01:10 AM
Nope, not 100% convinced on the background...but this was the one I had up, so it was easiest to modify. I also like your idea of trying to have different shots...I liked my tree shot one better, but don't want to have the same shot as Jedi..haven't received any of his photos yet...he said he had some for most of us on his camera. Still waiting for that post.

what time do you want to plan the evening at the refinery for tomorrow. Reason I ask is that I'm trying to set something up with Vipers as well...haven't heard from him yet for the time he is available. I also want to meet up with Cesar tomorrow morning for sunrise pics up at crestline.

I think I'm done for tonight...we'll get more work done on this stuff tomorrow :)

lesper4
12-28-2005, 01:29 AM
not sure what time i will post when if i get my car, they say tomorrow evening but i will always be skeptical about body shops ttyl

Jedi54
12-28-2005, 02:04 AM
I like the idea of using the B&W for the center (with color car) and the 4 smaller pics.

Question for everyone though: If we have EVERY month with the 4 small pics @ the top, won't that make the calendar a bit monotenous? How about moving those pics around? Maybe they would look better on the bottom for some months, or all on one side, etc.
I think there needs to be a common pattern (all pics on ONE side; top, bottom, left, or right) but maybe a little variety?

Keith, I think you and I might benefit from putting the pics on the bottom...won't block my tree OR your sunset you're trying to capture, etc.

Just a random idea. Thoughts?

Jedi54
12-28-2005, 02:08 AM
Viper,

random pics I took of your car @ the last meet...

Jedi54
12-28-2005, 02:09 AM
Xrider,

here's a shot of your interior

Jedi54
12-28-2005, 02:14 AM
Keith,

AWESOME job on my pics.


Can we change the first pic to this one...

vipers
12-28-2005, 03:06 AM
keith.... if possible, i was thinking maybe 1-2ish .....but whatever time is good for you, what do you think about taking pics of my car in front of orange groves? i think that would be bitchen, and all the orange groves are only a few miles from my house...... i pm'ed you my phone #.......so if you get a chance, go ahead and call me, that way we can figure everything out! thanx

FastRX8
12-28-2005, 05:06 AM
Keith -
I like the borders. I think someone (Snow???) suggested using the color of the car as the border. When you have a chance, try mine or speeds w/ the thumbnails bordered in yellow.

I agree w/ Jedi. It'd be nice to have a variety on location of the thumbnail shots.

If someone is really excited about their interior, maybe they can take a inside shot as their main pic.

Like this.
http://www.mazdausa.com/MusaWeb/images/vehicles/gallery/RX8/pho_gallery_RX8_int8.jpg


Or like this. (not our car, but you get the idea.


http://www.mbusa.com/media/images/main/models/gallery/photo_gallery/slr/coupe_int_1_main.jpg

I should be out of the house by 5:45am. If you're planning on meeting me, call.
I don't mind going Wednesday and Thursday if you can't make tomorrow. If I can't stay long enough tomorrow for the sunrise shots, I'll plan on going into work a little later on Thursday so I can make it. Like I said, I need to leave Crestline area at 6:30 to get to work on time.
I'll be in Vegas Thurs night-Mon so I have to have them done by Thursday afternoon.

- Cesar -

*yawn* going back to bed for 2 hours. :Drooling_

xrider01
12-28-2005, 06:54 AM
sorry guys i haven't been in this convo at all. been really busy these past few days and what not. lotsa reading i did just now too for this one thread. I also am one for the idea of the thumbnails being pix of our mods, and the center pic being a pic of just the car. I was thinking that for the cover pic on the calendar we can get all of us together and have a group pic as has been stated previously (don't remember if it was this thread or the san berdoo thread). I also think that a nice action shot (like a burnout or just driving along the freeway) would add more to a pic (like pic #3 on post #19).

jedi: i really liked that one pic you have of my interior! bitchen pic :).

keith: one of my fav pix of my car so far is the 2nd one on post #8. I like how it just captures just the right front fender along with the rim in the fore ground, and then the whole valley in the backgroung. i like how you did my SN font and font color in the lower left hand corner of the first pic in post #75. you also have all the pix of my car i have taken w/my digital camera when i emailed them to you a while back. all the other pix i have of my car have been posted here on the forums. Also, on thursday, so far i do not have anything planned (although impromptu events are frequent), i would like to hit up that sunset spot so i can have more pix of my car (or you can let me know where it's at so i can go take pix myself).

KC and Ceasar: i really like your B&W with car still in color pix that were taken. the B&W makes the yellow of your guys' cars stand out phenomenaly. I think the same would go for zoo tender and lesper4 as red would get the same/similar effect.

I still have to go through my pix and see what i have from everybody that i will post as my suggestions. Though, i'm not the PS super skilled dude here, i think i'll leave that to keith, Casey, and Loren for their imaginations and/or our suggestions to come up w/stuff

hahahahah......i like copy-paste. works so well when reviewing this thread from where i've started from making comments from all kinds of different pages :p:.

Jedi54
12-28-2005, 09:54 AM
xrider: Do you ever sleep?

Posting @ 4:54 am...damn man, that's commitment to your fellow RX-8 friends! :worship:

I'll email you that pic of your interior when I get home tonight.
PM me with where you want it sent.

xrider01
12-28-2005, 11:50 AM
lol.....i do sleep, just not a lot....i have sleeping problems (getting to sleep at least) :sadwavey: :rolleyes: :uhh: :sad: :(. but when i do sleep, i sleep :).

i already saved the pic onto my comp, but if you want to send me the original, my email is already in my siggy, just add @gmail.com :)

KrazieKave
12-28-2005, 03:21 PM
Krazie...I need some feedback on this...or some more pics that you would like to subsistute.

Keith I like I like that shot, but i would like to (if it is possible) to make the big picture ALL color, so that the view of the city will be in color as well.

as for the thumbnail pics, i'll get some different ones.

thanks

KrazieKave
12-28-2005, 03:49 PM
or maybe can we use this pic as the main pic?

http://img256.imageshack.us/img256/5105/kraziecalendar14cs.th.jpg (http://img256.imageshack.us/my.php?image=kraziecalendar14cs.jpg)

Jedi54
12-28-2005, 03:50 PM
^^^

Nice pic!

lesper4
12-28-2005, 06:36 PM
Well no car today but it should be tomorrow. I did some scouting instead, the pictures would look better at night becasue of the lighting except for the train yard. The fuel refinery with the open flame is no more but i am yet to see what we can take at the facotry in fontana near the new Arco. You can also get a close shot down nearr teh track of pepper but you have to drive on a dirt road. :nono: ?

Keith here is one to get you started

NOT I XRIDER

xrider01
12-28-2005, 06:44 PM
so are we still doing the photo thing tonight?

KrazieKave
12-28-2005, 07:13 PM
so are we still doing the photo thing tonight?

no, not tonight, because lesper does not have his car back.

KrazieKave
12-28-2005, 07:15 PM
so, i was sitting at work, and the clouds were all colorful.

do you think this one is better for a main picture?

SnowFl8k
12-28-2005, 07:28 PM
Keith and I met up with Jesse today for a photo shoot in the Orange fields. Viper, Keith wants to know which of these pics you like, which one's you would like as your center pic. We'll need to shoot it over to Loren so he can make them black and white.

SnowFl8k
12-28-2005, 07:30 PM
I'm really happy with how some of the action shots turned out. I think they may be worthy of posting as thumbnails....what do you think?

SnowFl8k
12-28-2005, 07:31 PM
We had more than 80 pics to sort through from the photoshoot...we tried to post at least one from each group of shots (based on angles and lighting).

kwescott
12-28-2005, 07:50 PM
Here's some of the best. I'm rather disapointed by the quality of a lot fo them...little parts always seem blurry. I think this is what happens when you don't have appropriate lighting, or backlighting. There may be a keeper in the bunch..especially the engine shots. I could also try cropping one of the shots if you really like one of them. Just let me know.

kwescott
12-28-2005, 07:51 PM
any of those from the first set you liked?

kwescott
12-28-2005, 07:52 PM
how'd your pics turn out....?

kwescott
12-28-2005, 08:12 PM
some of snow and some of me, finally, driving :)

kwescott
12-28-2005, 08:13 PM
some more....

kwescott
12-28-2005, 08:14 PM
I think I will use that interior shot from the previous set..what do you think?

kwescott
12-28-2005, 08:16 PM
so, i was sitting at work, and the clouds were all colorful.

do you think this one is better for a main picture?

My opinion...now I'm giving back some of those .02 cents I've been accumulating...I think it is too dark, and not in focus. I'm starting to realize how hard night, sunset/sunrise shots are. Not only do you need a steady hand, but you need some supplementary lighting.

lesper4
12-28-2005, 08:23 PM
pictures are looking good, i think since some of us want night shots as the main pic then the thumbs should be day shots and vice versa. It makes them stand out more.

kwescott
12-28-2005, 08:29 PM
pictures are looking good, i think since some of us want night shots as the main pic then the thumbs should be day shots and vice versa. It makes them stand out more.

I agree...but I think it should ultimately be up to the owner to make the ultimate decision.

So here's what I gather.

(1) We are good with the B/W main pic (with colored car).
(2) We like the idea of outlining the thumbnail pics. (but since I haven't yet done one in body color yet as Cesar suggested, we still need to wait for the vote on that one).
(3) Most are in agreement that mods or pics are good for thumbnails. (up to owner to indicate pics they like, the order, or to provide their own pics).
(4) Everyone wants their screenname...and I haven't heard anything negative about my two color idea.

My job, to post a couple more versions for a few to review.

Your job...start looking through the pics...and some of the "final" versions I've posted...not just for you, but for the others. I need suggestions peoples. We are quickly approaching Saturday...the date when I wanted things to be pretty close to being final.

We still have two months open. Someone please call Spiceboy.....who is the other month. Scotty? Toca....haven't heard any other interest.

ZooTender
12-28-2005, 08:31 PM
I couldn't have done a shoot tonight anyway, but hopefully tomorrow I can. I only have about a thousand things on my list to get done first. :Eyecrazy: And of course I've been to the ranch and its rained and I got to buy horse feed tomorrow, so hopefully I have time to get the car washed again first. Heck, maybe I'll just put all the animals around it and take pictures with all of them in front of the hay stacks with the car all dusty. :evil_laug OK maybe not. Although, I do think it'd be awesome to have a picture of my clean horse and cean car together.

kwescott
12-28-2005, 08:42 PM
A picture at your equestrian center wouldn't be bad. I'm sure there are other horse people in the bunch. Hay looks really cool in black and white. Take some pictures while your down there. We can help you figure out how to get them loaded so we can see them...or we can give you an email or two to send them to. The calendar is about us and our cars, not just our cars. And if your car is always carrying hay, then maybe it should be photo'd that way. :)

kwescott
12-28-2005, 08:43 PM
I also outline the pics in body color, though it is hard to tell with dark grey...I'll do one of Cesar's and post it here when I'm done adding the yellow squares.

Here's one with Jedi's requested center pic, and his outline in red...think it looks funny in read....should be black.

Here's his in black, with thumbs on the bottom..screen name at the top...thumbs are a little smaller as well.

kwescott
12-28-2005, 08:55 PM
speedemon...no need to go back up to the old gas station...it is no longer there. When ERica and I went up to meet Cesar this morning I noticed that it has been leveled and is no longer there :(...oh well.

lesper4
12-28-2005, 09:00 PM
Zoo I have a few but they are definilty not picture worthy, needs better backdrop but i am sure you could work something out maybe at your barn or at the feed store.,just snap a way after all thats what a digital camera is for.

I think you are on the right track keith. People speak up for the last few spots!

I like the yellow on the thumbs keith but you need to improve on your photoshop skills so that everything is equil and lined up. do you need photoshop i can guide you through simple steps on aim.

kwescott
12-28-2005, 09:02 PM
lesper..aim?

got a pic for Jedi that he wants done in Bw
http://www.rx8club.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=66197
and I assume that we will get some more requests once Jesse and Cesar check the pics just posted.

ZooTender
12-28-2005, 09:07 PM
Just trying something. I haven't been able to figure out how to get pictures off the pc onto the site. Ok I don't work much with computers. Anyway, if it shows correctly, this is my other horsepowered ride. :boink:

lesper4
12-28-2005, 09:10 PM
here you go

kwescott
12-28-2005, 09:18 PM
and if your want to make a big pic...you just do this :)

http://www.rx8club.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=66262

pretty horse...any white markings?

ZooTender
12-28-2005, 09:19 PM
It worked.... :jump: A little smarter everyday. Of course, sometimes thats not hard.

lesper4
12-28-2005, 09:38 PM
OK here are the choices of our favorites but viper you are the final vote. i messed around some on these....by the way i am removing any flawe in the pictures like concrete caps or car dents and even dates stamps so if you want a some new rims just holler. :D:

ZooTender
12-28-2005, 09:46 PM
pretty horse...any white markings?

Thanks, and nope pure black!

Let see I'll try this again with full body. These are of him when he was only 3, he's 5 now and they grow until 8-10. Ok enough mommy bragging.
Sorry!!!! Us Tenders tend to do that!

ZooTender
12-28-2005, 09:54 PM
Ha Ha Lesper, your car really does look a lot like mine. I just saw your post with your car and the horse. Hmm and I'm pretty sure that that is the Pomona Fair Grounds?

kwescott
12-28-2005, 09:59 PM
here's a couple Loren and I worked on...give me some time and I'll get them all up.

Is the "Vipers" too hard to see on the car, or too hard to see in the orange tree?

everything in black and white...some oranges, orange, or all on the left side?

kwescott
12-28-2005, 10:01 PM
Thanks, and nope pure black!

Let see I'll try this again with full body. These are of him when he was only 3, he's 5 now and they grow until 8-10. Ok enough mommy bragging.
Sorry!!!! Us Tenders tend to do that!

beautiful...I can see why you're willing to carry hay in your 8 now. Oh, and on the learning new things everyday...I make it a goal to get at least one, but it has been proven that you can only learn/retain 7 new things a day. Don't know what happens afterwards...never got that far before.

kwescott
12-28-2005, 10:09 PM
OK here are the choices of our favorites but viper you are the final vote. i messed around some on these....by the way i am removing any flawe in the pictures like concrete caps or car dents and even dates stamps so if you want a some new rims just holler. :D:

how bout an oil drip...or smokey exhaust :)

Jedi54
12-28-2005, 10:11 PM
Keith, I think I steered you wrong...sorry.

What I was looking to do was use that picture you took of my car @ the last SB cruise. (with the tree in the background)
I was hoping to use that as my main picture.

The one I emailed you could be a thumbnail.


Sorry for making you work on the wrong pic Lesper...

kwescott
12-28-2005, 10:12 PM
which pic do you want to replace...1-4 from left to right

do you want me to try and squeeze the thumbs to the bottom?

Did you prefer the black or red outline?

lesper4
12-28-2005, 10:17 PM
yes er re...my sister had a show there, actually a few a year

(just testing the post big pic thing)

Jedi54
12-28-2005, 10:19 PM
Keith, you're super FAST...thanks.

Replace #1 with the Malibu Picture.

Black borders

I like the way it looks on post #54...if we move the thumbnails all the way to the top, it might show more of the tree (which is the effect I'm going for)

Or do you think the thumbnails would look better @ the bottom?

lesper4
12-28-2005, 10:24 PM
so i am thinking the colored borders need to be half the thickness of your thickest border, understand. they seem a little strong

hey jedi how do you make your avatar move like that?

I like the pic with the colored oranges, the other version is a classic shot of any car, looking at the diginal down a road. Viper what do you think?

Jedi54
12-28-2005, 10:34 PM
OH CRAP!!!

Keith, I owe you a HUGE apology!! You sent me a PM about my avatar and I completly forgot to respond to you. Got super busy @ the office and it completely slipped my mind.

To be honest, I'm not really sure how the crazy thing moves... :scratchhe
It was made for me by a forum member; Scarroll. I sent him the original pic and he sent me back a moving one. It's a gif file that I just uploaded onto the site.

Wish I could be of more help but I am truly a photoshop noob... :o:

Jedi54
12-28-2005, 10:37 PM
For avatar help, check out this thread:

Avatar Makeover (http://www.rx8club.com/showthread.php?t=69909&highlight=avatar+makeover)

Sorry for taking us off topic...now back to our regularly scheduled programming.

kwescott
12-28-2005, 10:39 PM
Jedi...what changes do you want me to make to your calendar page?

You want the dead tree as your center pic...smaller thumbs to the bottom...outlined in red or black..and what pic do you want removed for the Malibu cruise pic?

Jedi54
12-28-2005, 10:44 PM
Kwescott:

See post #134...thanks!

kwescott
12-28-2005, 11:15 PM
Jedi...what about this. You said replace pic 1 right? Black outline to the top. There is no way that I could fit thumbnails at the bottom on this pic...maybe on that other one. But I do agree with you, this pic is by far, the best.

vipers
12-28-2005, 11:49 PM
wow...thats all i have to say! oh, and thanx keith........ those are the best pics ive ever seen! honestly! (plus im biased because its my car!)

well, i have no objections to this one........ it looks bitchen....any objections to this one being january? (post #128...the first pic)

kwescott
12-28-2005, 11:53 PM
here's some changes...replaced 3rd pic and puut white outline on thumbs.

kwescott
12-28-2005, 11:55 PM
wow...thats all i have to say! oh, and thanx keith........ those are the best pics ive ever seen! honestly! (plus im biased because its my car!)

well, i have no objections to this one........ it looks bitchen....any objections to this one being january? (post #128...the first pic)

I thought you wanted an interior shot? You wanna email one to me and I can add it for your review. Which pic would you like to replace? 1, 2, 3, or 4?

kwescott
12-29-2005, 12:13 AM
Ok, can't decide which format I like best. I changed two of the pics...pics 2 and 3 to current ones that include the interior. Outline in black. Which do you guys prefer...across the top or along the side?

Jedi54
12-29-2005, 01:53 AM
I vote for the thumbnails on the side.

There's just something about those telephone poles all lined up that gives the picture an interesting look.

Also, I like how you put the picture of your interior on the bottom. Seems to leave more of a lasting impression since most people will look at those thumbnails either from Left to Right or Top to Bottom. With that one at the end, you leave them with something they've probably never seen before.

Just my $.02

Jedi54
12-29-2005, 02:15 AM
What do you guys think of replacing the far right thumbnail with this picture?

vipers
12-29-2005, 02:47 AM
I thought you wanted an interior shot? You wanna email one to me and I can add it for your review. Which pic would you like to replace? 1, 2, 3, or 4?
id replace the first one......it seems the most out of place....... and on yours, i like the one w/ the pics paralell w/ the poles....... the other one just has too much "nothing" going on behind the car........ ill try to remember to send you the interior shot tomarrow due to it being at my shop..

ZooTender
12-29-2005, 02:59 AM
Awsome pictures! Great job kwescott. I get Jedis point but personally I like it with the small pics on the top better. And Jedi I like the first one of yours better too. Ugh and some of the pictures make me regret my black interior only choice.

Ok I'm taking my camera to the ranch with me tomorrow and while my kids are taking lessons I'll be trying some things with the car.

Man, my equestrian friends are really going to think I'm crazy now. Not having a truck was bad enough but posing my sports car at the ranch and taking pictures of it. :eek:

Too bad my best friend is out of town, I could really use his help. He already knows I'm crazy. :)

FastRX8
12-29-2005, 10:28 AM
Awsome pictures! Great job kwescott. I get Jedis point but personally I like it with the small pics on the top better. And Jedi I like the first one of yours better too. Ugh and some of the pictures make me regret my black interior only choice.

Ok I'm taking my camera to the ranch with me tomorrow and while my kids are taking lessons I'll be trying some things with the car.

Man, my equestrian friends are really going to think I'm crazy now. Not having a truck was bad enough but posing my sports car at the ranch and taking pictures of it. :eek:

Too bad my best friend is out of town, I could really use his help. He already knows I'm crazy. :)Zoo,
If you could get a picture of your car inside a stable, that would be the coolest/craziest shot. :mdrmed:

Keith,
On your's, I like the thumbnails on top. I like looking at curved roads, but both are great layouts.

- Cesar -

speeddemon32
12-29-2005, 10:49 AM
ok two comments, one, Vipers looks AWSOME! but there are two oranges that are in B/W below that group that i think should be orange. i think that would look even better.

two, as for the small pics, I think it should depend on the main picture used, meaning if one persons main pic looks better with small pics on the side, then put them on the side, If another persons looks beter on the top, then do the top, same goes for the bottom.

nothing wrong with mixing up the months a little.




ok three comments, IF we cant find the last two months, them we could always make those group shot months.

I will call Jason and see if he wants in on it. I am sure he does, you know him! I will try to call scotty305 also.


EDIT:
could not get a hold of spice, Scotty is interested. He will be posting here sometime today.

Kwescott, since you are on a lot more then me right now, PM spiceboy and see if he is interested. I would like to see his trphy as one of the small shots! :ylsuper:


EDIT again:
I not see that Vipers 4th pic has all the oranges orange.... I LIKE THAT ONE THE BEST!!!!!!!!!!!

Jedi54
12-29-2005, 11:05 AM
I called Jason last night and he wasn't there.

I sent him an email this morning and hopefully we can get him in the calendar.

KrazieKave
12-29-2005, 12:40 PM
Keith, I like the thumbnails on the left side, for the same reason jedi stated.

Vipers: for vipers, what would the BW picture with the dirt road behind the car with a couple orange oranges look?

have you tried a colored pic with Black and White thumbnails? (just a thought)

SnowFl8k
12-29-2005, 12:43 PM
keith tried it and I think it looks a little wierd not to mention you really lose the thumbnails...they just kinda blend into the background http://www.rx8club.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=66041

SnowFl8k
12-29-2005, 12:45 PM
What do you guys think of replacing the far right thumbnail with this picture?

I would definately replace that thumbnail - looks a little out of place with all of the background and less car - but I would put your other action shot back in. I liked that one the best. Your car is a little bigger and it keeps with the "blue" background theme. The first thumbnail on this sample http://www.rx8club.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=66167

Jedi54
12-29-2005, 12:59 PM
geez, who would have thought this would be so difficult... :wallbash:

It will all be worth it in the end though. :)

kwescott
12-29-2005, 01:08 PM
Here's two more samples. One, with the Madonalds shot replacing the far right...and a second where I put the original first pic back in, and replace the last shot with Macdonoalds. And another where I have the original first pic, and your other malibu pic.

which do you like better...or do you want the pics in a different order?

lesper4
12-29-2005, 02:02 PM
keith you going to be able to meet up with us today, they said my car should be done by 3 or 4?

vipers
12-29-2005, 02:21 PM
keith..heres a few shots for you.....which one do you like best?

FastRX8
12-29-2005, 02:24 PM
Keith,

I'm leaving for Vegas right after work, so I'll communicate everything about my month (August) that I can, so I don't hold up production if you guys get finished before I return on Tuesday.

Thumbnails -
I'll post a pic of the thumbs I like.
I'm not concerned w/ the order of the thumbnails. What ever you think is fine.
Cesarsunset3 for a thumbnail. If you could just crop a little off the top, cause you can see my sleeve.
I like the borders in yellow. Maybe slightly thinner because this will be on full-size page.
Also, the borders makes the difference in thumbnails size/alignment obvious.
If it's too much work to make the thumb size/alignment uniform, I think it's better not to have the border. (You could always put the thumbs in a filmstrip with no borders.)
Definitely don't want the pic of me at AutoX. The one w/ the tape on the front.
If the water pic is too blurry, change it too.

Main pic -
1st choice main pic - "Cesarsunset2" or "Cesarsunset10" (leaning more towards 2). Probably in full color, but I'd like to see it w/ the B&W background, I just don't know how to do that.
The pic is too dark, but I was able to fix it.
If we use this choice, maybe put the thumbs on bottom in a filmstrip to cover the stains in the dirt. Or just photoshop the stains out if you can.

2nd choice main pic - the pic titled "August final Lesper style 1cropped" w/ the B&W background. (post #69 pic #1)

Dates in the calendar -
If it turns out the cost of adding the dates is a one-time fee and it goes on ALL the calendars, I'll pay for up to 20 dates.
I'd like my B-day 8-20-73 on it.
You guys can add any other dates you need.

Fixing the dark pictures -
I don't have the original, but I put together a little tutorial on photoshop for adjusting the pic.
If you already know this, then forget what I wrote, but if not, you may want to try it.
I really want one w/ the magnet/helmet, but if it doesn't look that good in full-size, maybe use them as a thumb.

BTW, my pics looked terrible. No tripod. And my camera is not as good as yours.

- Cesar -

Jedi54
12-29-2005, 02:25 PM
Viper:

I like the 1st and 4th picture

FastRX8
12-29-2005, 02:28 PM
...Continued from post #159.

Comparison of the pics before and after the photoshop adjustments.

- Cesar -

SnowFl8k
12-29-2005, 02:32 PM
Viper - This is hard. I like the first cause it is a nice shot of the seats. I like the first and second cause you can really see your gauges. but the last one gives you more of the orange and blue theme......I don't know. I think I will go with four

Jedi54
12-29-2005, 06:31 PM
I left the office early and took some pictures down in Newport Coast.

I'm thinking of replacing the last 3 thumbnails with some of these.

Opinions?

kwescott
12-29-2005, 06:54 PM
keith you going to be able to meet up with us today, they said my car should be done by 3 or 4?

give me a call on my cell (714) 8097602

speeddemon32
12-29-2005, 06:57 PM
Viper:

I like the 1st and 4th picture


I like pic number 2 for a thumbnail shot.

kwescott
12-29-2005, 07:17 PM
I left the office early and took some pictures down in Newport Coast.

I'm thinking of replacing the last 3 thumbnails with some of these.

Opinions?

I like the one with your doors open. To be honest, Pic #3 in your current calendar page is so much like the main picture that i think it could be replaced. I think the third pic you just posted is very similar as well. So, I guess it just depdns on which background you like the best, because the pics themselves are very similar.

kwescott
12-29-2005, 07:23 PM
Interior shot added, definately a great shot to include. However, I like the shot you don't, so I've posted two options here. One with the shot removed like you asked, and another with the other (similar) pic removed. Final decision is up to you, but just wanted you to see. I think the shot with the signage in the background is cool, plus, it was the very first pic snapped of your new paint shop as you drove it back to Pirate City that morning...so it should have sentimental value. :)

kwescott
12-29-2005, 07:26 PM
Is this closer to a final version? I would like to see a new pic of the intake with the engine cover and no date stamp. Maybe less blurry :). I realize that we will be changing the third pic as well, but we should have that pic by tomorrow. With those two changes in mind, is this a final version that you would be happy with, or are you still wanting to change your center pic to something more current?

kwescott
12-29-2005, 07:37 PM
This leaves us with just one month left....Scotty305, Toca? Haven't heard a confirmation for that final slot.

Here's some of my pics of our lambo friend. :)
I know there is a pic of his intake somewhere, I just got to find it....

kwescott
12-29-2005, 07:41 PM
found it...here's another from the front. Anyone have recent pics without the doors open. I don't want to have four thumbnails with doors up. Maybe a shot of the hood from the front...anyone?

speeddemon32
12-29-2005, 11:16 PM
Keith, the original I have is not blury (under the hood) I dont know why that one is comming out so blury. here is another one I srunk from the original. try this one, if this does not work I will give you the original.

Maybe Lesper can photo shop the date stamp out? My under hood is very dirty right now, so I cant just go out there and take another pic right now.



here is a pic of the wheels I would like used for the "wheel pic"


I would LIKE to get a new main picture with the new wheels, and the new wing. I will try to go take pictures tomorrow after work. (I get off early tomorrow) IF for some reason I do not make the Saturday deadline, then yes we will go with that as the main pic.

Can we see an updated sample for now though?

xrider01
12-30-2005, 02:58 AM
oh crap!

another set of Hiros! lol. what size you get all the way around speed?

speeddemon32
12-30-2005, 08:36 AM
I'm not as rich as you :) so I went with 18's all the way around. WAY cheaper. I could not get over the price differance between 18's and 19's. same with the tires. :icon_no2:

also with my car being lowered I dont think 19's would have fit. the 18's with the offset I got I think would have hit. even these are a little to close for comfort. I would not be suprised if they rub while the suspention is working. :Eyecrazy:

xrider01
12-30-2005, 10:45 AM
well, your car is way lower than mine is, so 18's i guess isn't that bad :). gotta check out your wheels still, even though they're the same now :hahano:

lesper4
12-30-2005, 11:19 AM
Keith I need the font style you are useing so I can incorporate it into the template. Also what font size? I will post an example when I get through. Dont sleep in too late.

FINAL REQUIREMENTS:
-Background image 200dpi and 8.5"H overall (center image since length is longer then 11")
-Thumbnail Images 200dpi 1.5"H x 2"W

(a samller resolution at a bigger image size will also work if one runs into complications)

Which image (different borders) do you like better?

KrazieKave
12-30-2005, 11:31 AM
I think for jesse's, the main pic would look cool with a couple of the oranges colored orange.

see post 167
http://www.rx8club.com/showpost.php?p=1177152&postcount=167

kwescott
12-30-2005, 12:23 PM
Keith I need the font style you are useing so I can incorporate it into the template. Also what font size? I will post an example when I get through. Dont sleep in too late.

FINAL REQUIREMENTS:
-Background image 200dpi and 8.5"H overall (center image since length is longer then 11")
-Thumbnail Images 200dpi 1.5"H x 2"W

(a samller resolution at a bigger image size will also work if one runs into complications)

Which image (different borders) do you like better?

the smaller border looks more crisp/sharp...go with the one.

as for font....Staccato222 BT size 73

I talked with erica today, we can burn all the final (fuull) images to cd for you and we can meet up somewhere. This will greatly increase your work time, and decrease the download time :)

kwescott
12-30-2005, 12:25 PM
Here' some of the best to review. Do you like any, are there any you would like to see in B/W?

kwescott
12-30-2005, 12:28 PM
just thought this shot was cool, how the orange lights picked up the dew in the air and made little orange cones.

kwescott
12-30-2005, 12:36 PM
Here some for your review....there'll be more to come....

Jedi54
12-30-2005, 12:44 PM
Lesper:

The skinnier border looks better

kwescott
12-30-2005, 12:44 PM
Thanks to all my "back lighters" :)

kwescott
12-30-2005, 12:46 PM
That parking structure may be a cool day spot...don't know how many cars may be there though. There were some palms off to the right that flanked the building. Depending on time of day, early morning, late day, you would get some cool shadows from the poles.

kwescott
12-30-2005, 12:52 PM
Here's some cool ones, love how the rim shots came out.

kwescott
12-30-2005, 12:53 PM
Missed you at the two last photo locations...could have got some good ones..

kwescott
12-30-2005, 01:02 PM
Going in alphabetical order if you haven't figured it out yet...that leaves zootender for last....sorry.

Got some good shots Jonathan, hope some of these are your favorites.

kwescott
12-30-2005, 01:03 PM
some more...maybe the "cones" shot would be good in B/W...just an Idea.

kwescott
12-30-2005, 01:05 PM
when you select the one you want for your main shot, keep in mind that you'll need spacing for your thumbs....so choose accordingly.

kwescott
12-30-2005, 01:06 PM
I think the last pic in the first group "Xrider5" is one of my favorites for your main...don't know how it would look in B/W, but I think this one would look cool with thumbs across the top.

ZooTender
12-30-2005, 01:16 PM
No problem, just got up a bit ago anyway. My husband went to work and downloaded the few I had on my camera and just e-mail them to me. I thought I could fwd them to you. What's you e-mail?

kwescott
12-30-2005, 01:17 PM
Zoo, if you move your mouse pointer over a thumbnail, and leave it there, you'll see the file name...they should all be "zoo" with a number...like "zoo2", "zoo20"....let me know which ones you like.

kwescott
12-30-2005, 01:18 PM
If any of you like the shot under the bridge with the cement pipes in the shot, just know, don't go by yourself. There were people sleeping in a couple of them...no joke.

kwescott
12-30-2005, 01:21 PM
man, that was a long night. What time did we start anyways. I know we finished like right up the street from my house and I got home around 12:15 or so. I spent about an hour when I got home looking at some of the pics for the first time, just going through deleting all the blurry ones. There were over 300 pics to sort through...but there was some good one. Now I know why professionals end up taking so many shots.

kwescott
12-30-2005, 01:22 PM
Now, I get to go rest my back...aghhhh.

ZooTender
12-30-2005, 01:35 PM
If any of you like the shot under the bridge with the cement pipes in the shot, just know, don't go by yourself. There were people sleeping in a couple of them...no joke.


I know, I've ridden in the riverbeds tons of times and unders bridges. Seen plenty and always have protection with me but you are right I wouldn't go there alone on foot.

kwescott
12-30-2005, 01:52 PM
No problem, just got up a bit ago anyway. My husband went to work and downloaded the few I had on my camera and just e-mail them to me. I thought I could fwd them to you. What's you e-mail?

go ahead and post them...or I could do it for you. Givetokeith@yahoo.com (yah, I know, original)..:)

kwescott
12-30-2005, 02:15 PM
This what you asked for...I took the calendar page from your post #163 and made the changes...is this correct? (Pic 1 and Pic 4 just look so much the same to me)....

How about we move that action shot (currently 2nd pic) over to #3
-Get rid of the current #3 photo
-Put the pic with the open doors in #2
-Add the last photo I
Add the last photo in #163 into #4.


I think we might have a winner...

Jedi54
12-30-2005, 02:29 PM
YEY!!

I think we have a winner...

What do you guys think?

kwescott
12-30-2005, 02:30 PM
I'll need the originals for the pics you posted on post #171. Email them to me in fulkl quality (givetokeith@yahoo.com).

Are you going to want another rim pic...one without goo? That intake pic is much better. Do you want an intake pic with the engine cover...and I thought you had more going on under there...didn't you have more yellow wires (grounding kit?)...or was that just wiring for the amps? Do you want a newer pic or are you ahppy with this engine pic?

kwescott
12-30-2005, 02:34 PM
YEY!!

I think we have a winner...

What do you guys think?

I would replace either pic 1 or pic 4 with the direct side shot you have in post #163. The first pic "DSC00916".

I think this would be perfect. It adds a different angle, and I don't think anyone has a direct side shot. It would go well with the doors open shot too....My 2 pennies.

Ok this is what I would do.
Delete Pic 1
Move Pic 4 over to pic 1 spot.
Insert DSC00916 in Pic 4 spot...and call it a day. :)

If you think so, send me the original DSC00916 (givetokeith@yahoo.com)

kwescott
12-30-2005, 02:41 PM
Cesar...I called and you get 10 dates for 10 bucks. This is a one time payment that will go into as many calendars as we want. I made specific consideration to ask a second time. Do I pay 10 dollars for each of my 12 calendars, which would equal 120 bucks, or do I pay just 10 dollars to get the same 10 things written in all 12 calendars.

Answer, just one payment needed of 10 dollars.

Cesar, you said you were interested in paying for 20 dates (20 bucks)...is this correct?

This would be each persons birthday (12) plus 8 more entries...or we could just leave it at 12 birthdates for 12 bucks total....up to you Cesar.

kwescott
12-30-2005, 02:42 PM
Lesper. I called about paper quality. After several rounds of "it's photo glossy paper"...he told me it is "Hammermill Photo Glossy Paper". Does this help?

kwescott
12-30-2005, 02:46 PM
Lesper, AIM?

kwescott
12-30-2005, 02:57 PM
I think these would make interesting main pics. Loren, when you have a chance, lets see these in B/W.

Between pic 1 and 2, 2 is more in focus. 2 might look cool with thumbs down the right side (but would cover the tree)...or across the bottom (but I dont think they would fit without covering part of your front tire).

I think pic 4 is not a keeper in this bunch as the wheels are turned the wrong way...would you agree zoo?

vipers
12-30-2005, 03:06 PM
dayum..you guys got busy......... lol...... anywyas..... keith..... your right...i like the one that you like, w/ the 1st pic of my car in the picture...... kudos to you..lol...:)

kwescott
12-30-2005, 03:09 PM
I think these are my favorite...would be cool cause they are unique and leave some good spots for thumnbs across the top.

kwescott
12-30-2005, 03:10 PM
dayum..you guys got busy......... lol...... anywyas..... keith..... your right...i like the one that you like, w/ the 1st pic of my car in the picture...... kudos to you..lol...:)

so does this mean that you are completely happy with that version and would like to see it go to print :)

ZooTender
12-30-2005, 03:39 PM
I agree with the wild west shoot #2 is the best......so far I like #192-3, 193-4, and 204-2. Can't decide which I like better of the cabin ones and I don't like the reflection on the hood......could that be photoshopped out? made red instead of white? hmmm don't know the order and still leaves me one picture short.

lesper4
12-30-2005, 04:04 PM
OK so here are the main background pics I like although I am still searching for more at daytime. I'm including the thumbs i like and then i will post some more thumbs i like i didnt use.

Keith Erica KC are you guys using any shots of yoru dash kits?

lesper4
12-30-2005, 04:09 PM
replacement thumbnails (Boy it takes for ever to upload)

kwescott
12-30-2005, 04:22 PM
Ok, Here's what it will look like, excluding the color on the car. I got you a water pic, I cropped the hood shot, I included your second choice as a thumb, and I cropped teh autocross pic even more. This to your liking? I brightened up the center pic...and I'll see if Loren can do something with the stained ground when he B/w's it.

kwescott
12-30-2005, 04:24 PM
Keith Erica KC are you guys using any shots of yoru dash kits?

I'm not...just that side shot that kinda gets hints of it.

kwescott
12-30-2005, 04:35 PM
but Erica likes this

lesper4
12-30-2005, 04:52 PM
i like that one except for that it does nto show the whoel car and the rims are a strange color, but it is a very nice angle.

KrazieKave
12-30-2005, 05:02 PM
how do you guys like this pic for the calandar (main pic)?

lesper4
12-30-2005, 05:26 PM
looks a little dark, but its a nice shot its just that the car gets lost in the picture weather it is a main pic or thumb

ZooTender
12-30-2005, 05:42 PM
my fav pics so far for me.... 206-2, 204-2, 192-3, 193-4, 192-4. Sorry don't know how to attach them. Off to take a few more photos.

ZooTender
12-30-2005, 05:44 PM
looks a little dark, but its a nice shot its just that the car gets lost in the picture weather it is a main pic or thumb


I agree.

lesper4
12-30-2005, 06:14 PM
Keith and Erica are in a power outage so I am not sure when he will be back up and running but i know these were on the list to get done and reviewed. Have a gander.

KrazieKave
12-30-2005, 06:36 PM
hmm, what if we do this pic (66466) as my main pic, and instead of 4 thumbnails, have only one (because i dont have too many mods done to my car)

and have that one thumbnail be located where the yellow box is on the attached image.

meshell
12-30-2005, 07:22 PM
but Erica likes this

Casey and myself like that pic also because it is differnt from everyone's and it just plain looks good...

Casey and I also like the picture of ZooTender comming out of the barn.

ok I was told I needed to post this because Speeddemon is getting his pictures ready to post that we toke today.

xrider01
12-30-2005, 07:24 PM
I think the last pic in the first group "Xrider5" is one of my favorites for your main...don't know how it would look in B/W, but I think this one would look cool with thumbs across the top.

in the 30min. i've been looking at last night's pix, i've been drooling all over myself :drool:. kinda busy here at work right now, so i'll have more time to look over the pix when i get home to come upon the difficult decision as to which pic i would like to use on my main shot.

FastRX8
12-30-2005, 07:34 PM
Keith and Erica are in a power outage so I am not sure when he will be back up and running but i know these were on the list to get done and reviewed. Have a gander.Just checking in on the progress. I like mine.

- Cesar -

FastRX8
12-30-2005, 07:37 PM
Cesar...I called and you get 10 dates for 10 bucks. This is a one time payment that will go into as many calendars as we want. I made specific consideration to ask a second time. Do I pay 10 dollars for each of my 12 calendars, which would equal 120 bucks, or do I pay just 10 dollars to get the same 10 things written in all 12 calendars.

Answer, just one payment needed of 10 dollars.

Cesar, you said you were interested in paying for 20 dates (20 bucks)...is this correct?

This would be each persons birthday (12) plus 8 more entries...or we could just leave it at 12 birthdates for 12 bucks total....up to you Cesar.Everyone's birthday is cool. Mines 8/20.
I'll pay for 20 dates if someone has ideas for other dates. Doesn't just have to be the 12 featured in the calender.
I don't want to get into adding spouses/girlfriends/boyfriends B-Days, unless they're in the club.
I think we should add Michelle/Amber/Scotty.

- Cesar -

speeddemon32
12-30-2005, 08:07 PM
ok here are mine taken today. I took 85 shots, it's hard to only pick a few. I have pleny more if we cant find one here. but I am sure these will do just fine.


:bootyshak

kwescott
12-30-2005, 08:07 PM
Cesar - are you ok with the four thumbnails for your pic? and did you like how Loren was able to fix the stain in the street on the main pic?

lesper4
12-30-2005, 08:07 PM
Kevin your car went to the body shop but i am haveing a hard time reposting ???manage attachments doesnt not work...OK I GOT IT NOW What do you think?

speeddemon32
12-30-2005, 08:10 PM
more.... these are getting resized a second time.... so if we decide on one of these pics, I can send you the originals.

speeddemon32
12-30-2005, 08:11 PM
this one is my fav. I wouldl iek to see it like this!!!

kwescott
12-30-2005, 08:16 PM
ok here are mine taken today. I took 85 shots, it's hard to only pick a few. I have pleny more if we cant find one here. but I am sure these will do just fine.


:bootyshak

Speed, I think I like the third pic best, with thumbs on the bottom....

Or pic 1, but with thumbs on the top it is going to cover a lot of those palms.

What you thinking, which do you like thinking about the thumbs?

Oh, the setup looks nice (wheels/tires)

hey that thumbnail in the one you did with the "v" shaped trees is nice, post that up.

FastRX8
12-30-2005, 08:20 PM
Cesar - are you ok with the four thumbnails for your pic? and did you like how Loren was able to fix the stain in the street on the main pic?
Awesome pics. I like it.
The name on the leftside looks better.

- Cesar -

vipers
12-30-2005, 08:25 PM
this one is my fav. I wouldl iek to see it like this!!!
you might wanna get rid of the double post... you dont need 2 shots of your wheels! lol

kwescott
12-30-2005, 08:27 PM
Lesper, You saw what Erica liked, and this is the one I was working on when the power went out at my house. I like this series...only draw back is it is all night shots.

kwescott
12-30-2005, 08:29 PM
hmm, what if we do this pic (66466) as my main pic, and instead of 4 thumbnails, have only one (because i dont have too many mods done to my car)

and have that one thumbnail be located where the yellow box is on the attached image.

I like that pic...looks nice. Do you have a favortie pic that you would like to put on top?

Jedi54
12-30-2005, 08:32 PM
Wow :Eyecrazy:

The last one with the grass and palm trees in the background is awesome!

speeddemon32
12-30-2005, 08:32 PM
you might wanna get rid of the double post... you dont need 2 shots of your wheels! lol


your a dork, those are just for place holders. I am letting Keith work his magic.

speeddemon32
12-30-2005, 08:34 PM
Wow :Eyecrazy:

The last one with the grass and palm trees in the background is awesome!


yeah I like that one to.... but with it going to be Black and White, I think that would kill the grass, and with the thubnails, that would kill the palm trees..... but yeah, I like the pic to!

lesper4
12-30-2005, 08:47 PM
KC Rims looks nice I am truly jelous of all you but that just mean i can get somehting truly different then all oh you :rock: Nice shot of the refinery KC is that the one by the speedway or out in san berdo. I think Inned to go out and drive aorund somewhere

kwescott
12-30-2005, 08:48 PM
I'll put a couple in here so you can see what you like or dislike.

ZooTender
12-30-2005, 08:50 PM
ok now i'm thinking 206#1 in b/w since it might leave more room for the smaller pictures.

ZooTender
12-30-2005, 08:51 PM
wow posting is fast the went up while i was typing that last one

vipers
12-30-2005, 08:51 PM
Lesper, You saw what Erica liked, and this is the one I was working on when the power went out at my house. I like this series...only draw back is it is all night shots.
i dont like the main pic.... too dark... needs a lighter shot so the car is more visible! .2 more for your cookie jar keith!:)

kwescott
12-30-2005, 09:01 PM
cookie jar...oh, a cookie sounds good right now...or maybe cookie dough ice cream. :)

ZooTender
12-30-2005, 09:05 PM
cookie jar...oh, a cookie sounds good right now...or maybe cookie dough ice cream. :)

:nono: No cookies for you, you got lots of work to do. Aren't you glad you didn't have to work today? :Eyecrazy:

And did you get the E-mail I sent a while ago? I'm pretty sure I want one of the cabins in b/w and I sent the other pictures I like but I don't know how to show the on the thread.

lesper4
12-30-2005, 09:10 PM
Here you go Keith....I never got much of a reply on the my thumbnails for March, the exisitng ones or the raplacements.

Keep them coming i am on a role, when we do start on final production does anybody else know photoshop that well, i think Cesar does?

I HAVE SOME OREOS COOKIES and MILK YUMMMMMMM

anybody been outside this thread latly, rothenal mazda dropped their prices on a lost of stuff soposedly.

kwescott
12-30-2005, 09:18 PM
And did you get the E-mail I sent a while ago? I'm pretty sure I want one of the cabins in b/w and I sent the other pictures I like but I don't know how to show the on the thread.

I don't know what this means...sorry.

I'm going to put two new ones up in a couple minuites.

Yes, got the emails.

go back to that post and see which center picture you like, and which layout...top, side...then we can work from there with changing thumbnails.

kwescott
12-30-2005, 09:26 PM
Here's a starter for Spice Boy

Jedi54
12-30-2005, 09:28 PM
Spiceboy's looks pretty good.

kwescott
12-30-2005, 09:31 PM
Spiceboy's looks pretty good.

I dont have very many pics of his car for some reason. I think he is always behind me or something. The pics he sent me were not really usable. Great shots, but blurry and small. No one else has submitted anything at this point. Do you have anything?

His screenname takes up almost half the page :)

kwescott
12-30-2005, 09:32 PM
Jedi, where are we with yours...you make some final decisions on pics 1 and 4