http://www.breitbart.com/news/2005/12/05/051206001323.v7bezwpo.html
New carnivore found in the Borneo Islands apparently. What do you guys think about it? I think it looks totally sweet. :Eyecrazy:

It looks totally sweet... and delicious... :drool:

I thought that this was a thread about TiggerLee...

Neat. I didn't think they allowed people to wrestle other species, but if that's their prerogative, more power to them. I wonder how much it'll make in the wwf...




;)

Kinda looks like the Loch Ness monster......or maybe BigFoot. :mdrmed:

Cool, but I wish there was a better picture.

Did you read the story, gosh...all we know how to do is destroy everything...

can i get 1 for christmas? if not how about lunch

Okay......I was looking at the picture wrong. I had envisioned the tail as the neck of the "new mammal". Although I'm not expert on animals, I have nebver seen a carnivor with such a long neck. It looked like a flippin' brontasuarus. Didn't make sense.

Now that I look at it as the TAIL of the creaure (seeing a better picture in Yahoo news), I now see the tail, with the glowing eyes and head at the other end. THIS, therefore IS believeable.

See?

http://www.mazdanow.com/temp/neck.jpg

Okay......I was looking at the picture wrong. I had envisioned the tail as the neck of the "new mammal". Although I'm not expert on animals, I have nebver seen a carnivor with such a long neck. It looked like a flippin' brontasuarus. Didn't make senes.

Now that I look at it as the TAIL of the creaure (seeing a better picture in Yahoo news), I now see the tail, with the glowing eyes and head at the other end. THIS, therefore IS believeable.
That's exactly what I thought when I first looked at it, but I did a double-take and realized I should stop smoking crack :p I really want to see some more pictures of this thing, particularly in good ol' fashion carnivore action. That didn't rhyme too well :o

It looks very much like a fossa to me. Remember the "foosas", the bad-guy carnivores in "Madagascar"? Fossas are members of the civet family (Family Viverridae: Civets. Linsangs, Genets, Palm Civets, Toddy Cats, and Binturongs). I'm sure that if they capture this critter it'll be related.

Here's what a real Madagascar fossa looks like:
http://www.rx8club.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=64501&stc=1
Here's the Mystery critter from Borneo:
http://www.rx8club.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=64502&stc=1

Wow Aratinga...good find. Looks pretty damn close to me.

That would be funny if you figured out somethign that a bunch of science geeks couldn't ;)

It looks very much like a fossa to me. Remember the "foosas", the bad-guy carnivores in "Madagascar"? Fossas are members of the civet family (Family Viverridae: Civets. Linsangs, Genets, Palm Civets, Toddy Cats, and Binturongs). I'm sure that if they capture this critter it'll be related.

Here's what a real Madagascar fossa looks like:
http://www.rx8club.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=64501&stc=1
Here's the Mystery critter from Borneo:
http://www.rx8club.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=64502&stc=1
Damn you're smart! :p
It does look pretty similar, but I think it would be cooler if it were a whole new species. I can't wait until we find the Loch Ness and Bigfoot and all those other cool creatures. Ooh and the Chupacabra too! :p

fossa

Dang, if it aint a fossa...then it's his cuz...good find Aratinga.

I'm still laughing at you guys, how did you see the tail as the neck? LOL...what did he have two glowing disks on it's butt? :p: :yelrotflm

Just goes to show you how different we all see things sometimes. :)

I confess, I too totally saw the tail as neck and was not disabused of this notion until Razpewton's post.

LOL...confession free's the soul...lol, it's OK...it's just funny to me cause I don't see how you all saw that. Again...just goes to show how we see things sometimes.

By the way, I call...bull...on Bigfoot and Lockness.

Bigfoot, because there are alot of guns in America and no one has shot one yet. lol

Lockness, because it appears there aint NOTHING to eat in that lake. Now...there might be other sea "creatures" that are unknown, but not in Lockness.

its clearly civet related - thanks aratinga for the pic of the fossa i couldnt remember the name. but the musculature of the hind legs are clearly civet-esque.

my favourite civet- the binturong

http://www.hilozoo.com/images/animals/m_binturong2.jpg

http://www.wwfmalaysia.org/images/ecard/binturong.jpg

btw range of the binturong and other civets coincides with the borneo location of this creature

http://www.wii.gov.in/envis/envisdec99/maps/p19.jpg

edit: this map does not show the whole range of all civets just that of the binturong. the fossa that was mentioned by aratinaga is found on madagascar.

Lockness, because it appears there aint NOTHING to eat in that lake. Now...there might be other sea "creatures" that are unknown, but not in Lockness.

Loch Ness in th epast was open to the sea via underground channels. many fish and eels and other oceanic creatures found their way in. when these channels became closed the food supply was cut off. The remaining "monsters" ate what was left then starved and died.

so you are correct- there is nothing to eat there NOW and no creatures there NOW. but there used to be

http://www.madagasikara.it/Maxi/fossa.gif
http://www.breitbart.com/images/2005/11/5/051206001323.v7bezwpo/SGE.LIM22.061205001317.photo00.quicklook.default-245x145.jpg


looking at the 2 images above- the first is a pic of a fossa the second the "new" animal- im even more convinced that it is a fossa. very rich peopel in that area of the world are known to keep exotics as status symbols. this is probably just one that got away. the fact that "locals" didnt recognize it lends more credence to it being a non-native that has been introduced some how.

of course i could be wrong :)

civet-esque

Maybe a new subspecies??

but there used to be

Yeah, what you said is what I’ve heard and after watching countless searches for this thing I think at least now a days, there aint nothing there.

Now…Champ is another story…lol, j/k…but you never know…




Check this thing out, found in my native land of Cuba (in the city I was born in)…

Almiqui (http://homepage.mac.com/genedebs1/iblog/B145388589/C1774996060/E869776329/)


Note: "proving that socialism can actually work to preserve extinct species - - animal and human." This is what I think about that....lol... :puke:

Wow Aratinga...good find. Looks pretty damn close to me. That would be funny if you figured out somethign that a bunch of science geeks couldn't ;)But I AM a science geek. :)
I'm familiar with the civets because we had a binturong at the Long Beach Aquarium. Most members of the civet family have distinctive odors because of scent glands similar to those of skunks. Binturongs don't stink, though... they smell exactly like freshly popped popcorn.

cute animal but what was this quote? "Good news for Cuba . . . proving that socialism can actually work to preserve extinct species - - animal and human. "

not being political here but a farmer tripping over an animal presumed to be extinct does not in any way show that any "ism" that wasnt actively trying to preserve the species had anythign to do with it being preserved.

But I AM a science geek. :)
I'm familiar with the civets because we had a binturong at the Long Beach Aquarium. Most members of the civet family have distinctive odors because of scent glands similar to those of skunks. Binturongs don't stink, though... they smell exactly like freshly popped popcorn.

oh i wish we had one here. they definetly smell like corn- i thought "fritos" when i had the chance to see one in person.

not being political here but a farmer tripping over an animal presumed to be extinct does not in any way show that any "ism" that wasnt actively trying to preserve the species had anythign to do with it being preserved.

LOL...I know, when I read that I felt like...well, look at my post^...lol

Note: "proving that socialism can actually work to preserve extinct species - - animal and human."

Um... pardon my logic but... is not "to preserve extinct species" oxymoronic? "extinct" means there's none left; I am unaware of any way to preserve something that's already all gone.

Um... pardon my logic but... is not "to preserve extinct species" oxymoronic? "extinct" means there's none left; I am unaware of any way to preserve something that's already all gone.
An Aristotle follower, eh? I agree though, if there are none left, there are none left.

Um... pardon my logic but... is not "to preserve extinct species" oxymoronic? "extinct" means there's none left; I am unaware of any way to preserve something that's already all gone.

Yet another good point why that comment is dumb...lol

But I AM a science geek. :)
I'm familiar with the civets because we had a binturong at the Long Beach Aquarium. Most members of the civet family have distinctive odors because of scent glands similar to those of skunks. Binturongs don't stink, though... they smell exactly like freshly popped popcorn.


With or without the butter?

many new species found in indonesia

Lost World (http://smh.com.au/news/world/exotic-and-serene-the-wildlife-that-thrives-in-new-guineasparadise-lost/2006/02/07/1139074228923.html)

i wonder if this is the same folks who took the pic of our "fossa" that strted this thread?

this sort of hedgehog lays Eggs!

http://smh.com.au/ffximage/2006/02/07/echidna_wideweb__470x235,0.jpg

more photos here http://news.mongabay.com/2006/0206-ng.html

is it possible the "fossa" was this tree kangaroo?

http://www.mongabay.org/images/external/2006/rap_new_guinea2.jpg

nah i still think aratinga's call on the first mammal is right:)

I read about the Indonesian "Garden of Eden" too... I just hope and pray, now that the news of its existence and its rare, tame creatures has been spread all over the globe, that poachers and collectors don't exploit it. I almost wish they would have kept its secrets secret; I can't imagine what good will come of making more humans aware of it. I also wonder how many "specimens" were "collected" (read: animals and birds taken and killed) so that the biologists could experience the ego gratification of naming a new species.

Let's just hope that greed doesn't win out over preservation.

While the pictures provided are not the highest quality, I did notice a distinct difference in the facial features of the fossa and the new discovery: it may not be a big deal, but the ears are a different shape and less protrusive. While the tail length and build are similar, i find the differences in the head shape to be enough to propose that this is indeed likely to be a different species. In wild species, unlike species bred by humans for specific traits for thousands of years (dogs, horses, domesticated cats, etc.) there tends not to be significant differences in facial features within the species, particularly not in areas that have the same climates. Since most species range is limited by climatic and other environmental factors, that would I believe include this species.

Of course I could be wrong... lets capture one and breed it to a fossa to see if it gives birth to fertile offspring!