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Hymee 10-07-2005, 12:24 AM Hi all,
I think you will all be pleased to know that following our sucessful work to date with twin-screw supercharging a 6-port RX-8 and our very sucessful work with engine management, we at Performance Design Australia (the home of Hymee Enhanced) will be developing a version of the supercharger kit for the 4-port renesis engine.
This will be a real godsend for the auto owners out there, and the 5-speed manual ones in other parts of the world.
The instant boost provided by the style of supercharger we are using will really work well with an auto.
If you don't know where the big long thread on Hymee Gets Supercharged (http://www.rx8club.com/showthread.php?t=36376), you do now ;) Otherwise I'm sure someone will post it here real soon!
http://www.rx8club.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=60465&stc=1
Cheers,
Hymee,
NiNjA99 10-07-2005, 12:52 AM Hows it going Hymee? I've been reading that thread on and off. 54 pages is a bit to read though :p
Glad you didn't forget about us 4 port owners! :D Power off the line is exactly what this car needs!
Any power figures and ETA on the auto version?
Hymee 10-07-2005, 01:11 AM Power and torque figures when we have something publishable that we can stand beside.
ETA will be when it is good and baked. :D
Your right - I reckon it will be awesome.
Cheers,
Hymee.
NiNjA99 10-07-2005, 01:31 AM Power and torque figures when we have something publishable that we can stand beside.
ETA will be when it is good and baked. :D
Your right - I reckon it will be awesome.
Cheers,
Hymee.
Haha, awesome. I can't wait! A supercharger solution sure does sound better than a turbo...at least for this car.
Good luck and keep us updated!!!
JonnyBoy 10-07-2005, 06:39 AM THis is really good news Hymee! You can be sure to count me in when you put this on the market!
Do you plan on selling it as a bolt-on/DIY kit?
this is exciting!
Hymee 10-07-2005, 07:32 AM Bolt on - definately. HP in a box ;)
DIY - Depends on your skills, I guess.
The hardest part to date would be putting the extra pulley on the bottom.
Plan is to have detailed instructions, of the usual high quality. :D
Cheers,
Hymee.
DjRx8 10-07-2005, 10:31 AM Now THAT'S GRRRRRREAT NEWS!
CHEERS!
DreRX8 10-07-2005, 10:42 AM EXCELLENT NEWS--keep us posted. What kind of power are you seeing on the 6-port?
Invasion8 10-07-2005, 05:15 PM Any idea around the cost of your supercharger.. And if you could proved hp and torque numbers when you get them that would be great. If the price is right and over 200 to the rear wheels i might just have to buy it. Any idea when the kit will come out?
Invasion8 10-07-2005, 05:23 PM Will this kit be 50 state legal?
Hymee 10-07-2005, 07:59 PM Any idea around the cost of your supercharger.. And if you could proved hp and torque numbers when you get them that would be great. If the price is right and over 200 to the rear wheels i might just have to buy it. Any idea when the kit will come out?
It is not being built to a price. It is built to quality. When it is baked, we will know how much it costs.
Patience will be rewarded is the best I can offer at this stage.
Cheers,
Hymee.
Hymee 10-07-2005, 08:00 PM Will this kit be 50 state legal?
How much will that cost you? ;)
It might be more than 50. We have 6 states and 2 territories here, and I am not planning on breaking any laws.
Cheers,
Hymee.
EyeBall Fixer...(o)(x) 10-08-2005, 09:13 AM It is not being built to a price. It is built to quality. When it is backed, we will know how much it costs.
Patience will be rewarded is the best I can offer at this stage.
Cheers,
Hymee.
Must be:
"If you must ask how much it is, you can't afford it :rolleyes: "
(which includes me!)
Anyway, Hymee is a Rotary Super-Hero :o !
I look forward to seeing this project....
Hymee 10-08-2005, 03:40 PM I've been looking into the 50-state-legal stuff. Bear in mind we are on the other side of the globe. I guess the main thing I can point out at this juncture is that all the factory emmission controls / anti-pollution devices do infact remain in-tact with this project. I guess that is 80% of the battle.
Cheers,
Hymee.
therm8 10-09-2005, 12:12 PM The 1 greddy turbo'd auto 8 that I know of required larger primary injectors because the stock ones were running something like 85-90% duty cycle IIRC. I have a feeling that your twin-screw blower is going to be flowing at least as much air as the "stock" boost on the tiny Greddy turbo, probably more. Therefore, I have a feeling that you're going to need larger primary injectors, also. :)
I applaud you for going ahead with the 4port supercharger, and I'm willing to bet that you'll be the first to get it to market. Pettit is the only other company that has said they will develop one, but I don't know if they've even started.
Mickeyblue 10-17-2005, 11:56 AM i might be wrong but cant you whack up the PSi a bit higher on a 4 porter as we dont have the weird air flow dohicky (technical terms are not a strong point) as i se from those nice folks in the East thay have got 290 at teh wheels from a turbo and better breathing!!!
if this is gonna happen from a screw......i will be begging you for one!!!
I see your from Down under.....good excuse for a visit to the relatives i think!
ZooTender 10-17-2005, 01:18 PM Hows it going Hymee? I've been reading that thread on and off. 54 pages is a bit to read though :p
Glad you didn't forget about us 4 port owners! :D Power off the line is exactly what this car needs!
Any power figures and ETA on the auto version?
I agree! I love the way it looks and handles but I NEED more speed up front!
DOMINION 10-17-2005, 11:26 PM This is the best dam news I have read in a long time. And I would pour my hard worked money into your SC then GREDDY's Turb anyday!
Bring on the torque!
Whats the word on the price tag? and will there be a groupe buy set up for us?
Thanks,
Gilbert.
blacxicano 10-18-2005, 10:43 AM Damn..another thing to save for...I need to hit the lotto soon
NiNjA99 10-18-2005, 11:50 AM Damn..another thing to save for...I need to hit the lotto soon
yuuuuupp!!! powerball jackpot is up to $340 million. with that much money, i could buy everyone here a supercharger!
DreRX8 10-18-2005, 12:04 PM yuuuuupp!!! powerball jackpot is up to $340 million. with that much money, i could buy everyone here a supercharger!
Can I get that in writing :D
lafrad 10-18-2005, 03:53 PM me too...
rx8fanatic2085 10-18-2005, 06:14 PM same.
NiNjA99 10-18-2005, 07:49 PM yuuuuupp!!! powerball jackpot is up to $340 million. with that much money, i could buy everyone here a supercharger!
COULD ain't the same as WOULD.... hehehe ;)
DOMINION 10-18-2005, 10:00 PM But we can still get that in writing right?
Discman2 10-18-2005, 10:18 PM hmmmm.
pettite is also making a SC.
Hymee is making a SC.
The news gets better every week for AT owners :D
I wonder how much $$ we are gonna be looking at for each SC.
And I can't wait to see what the test dynos look like. :D
NiNjA99 10-18-2005, 11:37 PM hopefully, they won't be too much. price on greddy turbo is kinda going down, but power from the start and bolt on reliability(hopefully) make an SC more much appealing.
DOMINION 10-21-2005, 08:17 PM Hymee check your email and PM's. I have an offer for you.
Gilbert
bassam 11-11-2005, 01:27 AM I dont understand why a supercharger that will fit on a manual wont fit in an automatic as well, will it give the same performance?
Hymee 11-11-2005, 01:35 AM It is more about sizing it right and the management than about "fit"
Cheers,
Hymee.
Mickeyblue 11-11-2005, 05:43 AM I take it this magical device will work on the 5 speed mannuals with the 4 porter?
Hymee 11-11-2005, 06:57 AM That is the idea. Rasputin would be the first one of them in the queue I would suggest. ;)
Cheers,
Hymee.
Discman2 11-11-2005, 08:29 AM How far are you now hymee?
aka-when can I buy? :mdrmed:
Mickeyblue 11-11-2005, 10:14 AM thought he would be!
although he is just over the water so once dont i will be over like a shot with my spnaaers and socket set!......or the other option is wallet LOL!
either way i am upset with the grand parents for not doing the £10 deal for a new life down under!
therm8 11-11-2005, 03:35 PM Any thoughts on the bigger secondaries being needed? I'm thinking they will be at the same airflow as the 6 port unit. It'll take some of the "bolt-on" out of the kit, but honestly lesser increases than what the 6 port gets would be undesireable to me.
Invasion8 11-12-2005, 09:23 AM hey if the kit can make 200 to the wheels i will be happy
Rasputin 11-12-2005, 09:31 AM That is the idea. Rasputin would be the first one of them in the queue I would suggest. ;)
Cheers,
Hymee.
Indeedy!:fingersx:
Mickeyblue 11-13-2005, 12:21 PM i have seen on the japan auto turbo the kits comes with larger injectors! not a terribly expensive item in my eyes so even if the nice people at hymee dont include them i will be getting some anyway if....sorry when i go for this amazing toy!
i kow time scales are never good but any idea?
oh slightly odd question who much does the 6 port kit weigh? as i guess they will be about the same? just in case i need a holiday in oz ......for a bit of shoping!
ZooTender 11-23-2005, 01:21 PM Well, I hope there is a SC soon for the AT. I want one yesterday.....lol.....ok I'll settle for soon. I love the backseat and with kids I had limited options with a sports car but where is the speed they had with the last rx7. Now that AT had speed, just no back seat. I want both, but I still love my 8. I just have a need for speed up front.
Pessimist 12-16-2005, 10:39 AM Would it be possible to get an update on your endeavor when time permits? Thanks.
Rotor Kreuzer 12-16-2005, 10:48 AM Yeah Rasputin, any updates on your SC?
Rhequiem 12-28-2005, 01:38 PM Im really excited about this, Hymee, and want to thank you for including AT owners in your TC development! I'm VERY interested in buying this if it becomes available for purchase, and if it's available in the USA. Any updates on the progress of this project?
DOMINION 12-28-2005, 07:31 PM Yes updates please!
invasion08 01-02-2006, 06:51 PM ????????????
Hymee 01-02-2006, 09:49 PM We are doing some refinements to the 6-port at the moment. I have no dates to be able to make promises for the auto. Sorry.
Cheers,
Hymee.
my10ae 01-02-2006, 10:17 PM We are doing some refinements to the 6-port at the moment. I have no dates to be able to make promises for the auto. Sorry.
Cheers,
Hymee.
Crapola! :(
Hymee 01-02-2006, 10:27 PM Awww - c'mon. I didn't say it wasn't happening!!! We just don't rush things :)
therm8 01-04-2006, 10:41 AM By the time a supercharger actually makes it to market, I'm gonna have 100k miles on the car. I don't know if I'd want to stress the engine at that point... :) . Is this going to be a 2006 thing at least?
spr grn8 01-04-2006, 12:49 PM ^^ seriously, good question for any and all SC developers!
snizzle 01-17-2006, 12:36 PM By the time a supercharger actually makes it to market, I'm gonna have 100k miles on the car. I don't know if I'd want to stress the engine at that point... :) . Is this going to be a 2006 thing at least?
At least you'll be out of warranty, haha
Hymee 01-19-2006, 02:03 AM Which is good in some respects ;)
snizzle 01-24-2006, 04:16 PM Hymee, any interesting recent tidbits on the AT version? any specific hurdles you have crossed? are you even that far yet to see any?
Hymee 01-24-2006, 06:07 PM Well firstly I need one of two things...
An auto RX-8 locally who wants to be the first,
Or relocate to the US where I'm sure I'll get plenty of offers.
Cheers,
Hymee.
DreRX8 01-24-2006, 08:45 PM :rock: LOL---I'm all for option 2
snizzle 01-25-2006, 02:22 PM Twin-Screw grunt from the USA!!!!
DOMINION 01-26-2006, 08:05 PM Hymee I made you an offer. Remember me ;)
Steakboy42 01-27-2006, 03:51 PM hymee, could we possibly get a price range? just something preliminary and subject to change.
-Steakboy
Imidazole 01-27-2006, 04:59 PM Where do I enter my credit card digits so I can have the twin-screw for my M6 RX8 in the mail?
Hymee 01-28-2006, 02:33 AM hymee, could we possibly get a price range? just something preliminary and subject to change.
-Steakboy
Just add up the costs of these parts, and you will get a pretty good idea:
Supercharger
All mounting brakets, bolts & nuts *
MoTeC Engine management
Plug'n'play ECU harness *
Throttle Body Adaptor (Billet CNC Aluminum) *
Discharge adaptor (Billet CNC Aluminum) *
Intake manifold adaptor (Billet CNC Aluminum) *
Bypass valve & acutator (Billet CNC Aluminum)
Upgraded Injectors
Blower drive system: Pulleys, idler, belt, tenstioner *
Intake ducting *
Water-Air intercooler and frount mount radiator *
Electric thermo fan
Electric water pump
CNC billet water filler
Vacuum hoses
Water hoses
MAP Sensor
*Custom made for the RX-8 application
Cheers,
Hymee.
snizzle 01-31-2006, 12:43 PM Just add up the costs of these parts, and you will get a pretty good idea:
Supercharger
All mounting brakets, bolts & nuts *
MoTeC Engine management
Plug'n'play ECU harness *
Throttle Body Adaptor (Billet CNC Aluminum) *
Discharge adaptor (Billet CNC Aluminum) *
Intake manifold adaptor (Billet CNC Aluminum) *
Bypass valve & acutator (Billet CNC Aluminum)
Upgraded Injectors
Blower drive system: Pulleys, idler, belt, tenstioner *
Intake ducting *
Water-Air intercooler and frount mount radiator *
Electric thermo fan
Electric water pump
CNC billet water filler
Vacuum hoses
Water hoses
MAP Sensor
*Custom made for the RX-8 application
Cheers,
Hymee.
So about $1,500. Sounds good to me! :rofl:
Hymee, are you saying that nobody wants to be the test car for your AT supercharger project in your neck of the woods? That certainly wouldn't be the case over here.
N rider89 01-31-2006, 11:57 PM oh man i cant wait for this to happen. thanks again for including us auto owners. dont want to take up time away from work on the SC just wanted to say thanks though.
NieL
sgrenesis 02-04-2006, 03:08 PM So about $1,500. Sounds good to me! :rofl:
Hymee, are you saying that nobody wants to be the test car for your AT supercharger project in your neck of the woods? That certainly wouldn't be the case over here.
That doesnt really seem to add up even if its in USD cause i think the motec alone will cost at least US$2500
KrisD1 02-04-2006, 07:06 PM Which size sc are you using now on the 6port?1.2l-1.6l or 2.3l and howmuch did you pay for the sc itself? Thanks
snizzle 02-05-2006, 01:01 PM That doesnt really seem to add up even if its in USD cause i think the motec alone will cost at least US$2500
You totally missed the sarcasm.... :spank:
sgrenesis 02-19-2006, 03:06 AM You totally missed the sarcasm.... :spank:
oops.... think i better not post so late at night since my brain is not working at its optimum. :cwm27:
ferrocene 02-21-2006, 03:43 AM I'm standing in line for the SC too. I have a feeling we probably won't see this until the end of the year, if not later. It's already going to be March before you know it.
snizzle 02-21-2006, 09:13 AM He doesn't even have a test car yet. Enough said.
Hymee 02-21-2006, 03:06 PM Auto's are reasonable rare in this part of the world. We do however have a 4-port engine we could set up on the engine dyno.
Cheers,
Hymee.
invasion08 03-15-2006, 08:16 PM anynew updates.
Hymee 03-15-2006, 08:49 PM We are going to do some work on the engine dyno soon with the 6-port engine. Perhaps some tests on the 4-port could follow, since we don't have a car to test on.
EyeBall Fixer...(o)(x) 03-29-2006, 10:08 PM Man!
I can't wait!
Wonder what it'll do to my current 11mpg?
Maybe it'll get better!
"It could happen"
mikeb 03-30-2006, 03:19 PM take my car please
Hymee 03-30-2006, 08:42 PM Your on. When can you have it here?
Cheers,
Hymee.
SlayerRX8 03-31-2006, 01:34 AM I want to go the FI route, and I'd do it with this kit if it were available.
I really hope you find a test car!
SlayerRX8 04-03-2006, 04:45 AM Oh yeah, and if you were serious about relocating to the US I would definitely be up for supplying a test car.
Hymee 04-03-2006, 07:10 AM Or I could come do some R&D stateside I guess. Might be cheaper for me to purchase an auto. I don't think they are that popular in these parts.
Perhaps I could raise enough money on ebay or something to fund it.
Cheers,
Hymee.
PS - I am serious about doing it.
SlayerRX8 04-03-2006, 01:34 PM How long would you be keeping a test car? I don't know much about R&D :)
Hymee 04-03-2006, 04:24 PM A week or two tops. Most of the hard work is done. Just a few A/T (4-port) things, then tuning. The more time for refining the tuning, the better.
Cheers,
Hymee.
SlayerRX8 04-03-2006, 05:18 PM THAT'S IT??? I could give you that time and more. I was prepared for (and ok with) a month or two. Of course, I will miss it for any amount of time that its gone since I'd be driving a Honda Pilot (ewwww), but it's for the good of all ATs out there.
canaryrx8 04-03-2006, 05:24 PM feel free to come down to Austin Tx and play with mine, it's pretty much bone stock save for a rotary shaped oil filler cap lol
SlayerRX8 04-10-2006, 12:07 AM We really need to get some more power to make up for how slow the AT is :(
Rich Rx-8 04-10-2006, 12:11 AM Yeah, help me out too. I'm real serious about putting more power into my A/T.
invasion08 04-10-2006, 04:34 PM Me too I dont even care about the hp i want more torque. The A/T needs more low end power but even alittle more mid and top range would be nice
SlayerRX8 04-10-2006, 04:54 PM We need hp. If I'm not mistaken, the 04-05 AT's have 5 more tourqe than MT's.
invasion08 04-10-2006, 05:12 PM yeah but the torque is what gets you off the line quicker.
Rich Rx-8 04-10-2006, 05:19 PM Yeah, the torque in both M/T and A/T really sucks, this is why I'm not gonna trade in my A/T for the M/T cause all I'm doing is LOOSING torque.
therm8 04-10-2006, 05:23 PM We need hp. If I'm not mistaken, the 04-05 AT's have 5 more tourqe than MT's.
at peak (5000 something rpm). little enough that it is meaningless. The 4 port makes more power than the 6 port up until (and maybe a little beyond) the 6's 3rd intake transition (theoretically). The beauty of a twin-screw supercharger is that you can get awesome low end and good high end power. Gearing is what really kills the 4spd autos.
snizzle 04-10-2006, 08:04 PM Yeah, the torque in both M/T and A/T really sucks, this is why I'm not gonna trade in my A/T for the M/T cause all I'm doing is LOOSING torque.
The extra 5 we get is not something you'd notice. Like therm8 said, it's all about the gearing. The new 6spd ATs will be quicker than the 4AT without the extra torque. They still won't be as fast as the 6MT though which is slow for it's segment in the 1st place.
SlayerRX8 04-11-2006, 03:05 PM Yeah, my point was that a lack of torque is not the issue.
Rich Rx-8 04-11-2006, 03:29 PM No, lack of torque IS the issue that bothers me alot. I want torque way more than two more gears. I think most of us want torque, that's the more common complaint about the Rx-8. I'll keep my 4 gears with more torque and be happy as ever. Both M/T and A/T need more TORQUE.
invasion08 04-11-2006, 03:32 PM Thank you Rich RX-8 you seem to be the only person that knows what there are talking about. Too many people are looking at the HP numbers when the torque is lacking in the 8
snizzle 04-11-2006, 03:37 PM The rotary engine is not about torque. It never has been and never will be.
therm8 04-11-2006, 03:39 PM I think people are referring to "torque" and meaning low end torque. Horsepower comes from torque. I want a broad torque curve which will yield low end grunt and high end power (which this s/c will provide). Now someone just needs to produce something before my damn engine has 100k miles on it :) .
Rich Rx-8 04-11-2006, 03:48 PM Yes low end torque is the only torque I care about. I want the torque that I currently get at 5000rpm's to blast in at 2000rpm's. :)
snizzle 04-11-2006, 04:04 PM Of course there is a direct relationship between HP and Torque. Even so, that doesn't change the fact that some engines historically have more torque down low than others. I agree that a broad torque curve would be nice but we just won't get it without FI (such as Hymee's S/C).
If it's low end torque that's the issue, I think some of you would be much happier in a muscle car. The lack of torque was one of the very first things I noticed when I test drove it.
invasion08 04-11-2006, 04:07 PM The SC that hymee is designing is a roots type blower and will produce more power from 0 rmp all the way to the redline. I do believe that Hymee did say roots blower dont hold me to that
Rich Rx-8 04-11-2006, 04:55 PM Yeah that's what I thought, I don't need to spin the tires at the trailer park. :) I just want to have as much or more torque off the line than my previous Volvo S70 GLT.
SlayerRX8 04-11-2006, 08:53 PM The thread title says Twin-Screw...
invasion08 04-20-2006, 09:09 PM Well Hymee dont leave us hanging, any #'s yet
SlayerRX8 04-24-2006, 06:55 PM He needs to finish the 6 port version first. I'm sure he's working on it.
cjkim 05-07-2006, 12:54 AM Yes low end torque is the only torque I care about. I want the torque that I currently get at 5000rpm's to blast in at 2000rpm's. :)
:lol2: that's got to be the funniest post ever
invasion08 05-07-2006, 11:26 AM how so, rich rx8 is saying he wants the torque he gets at 5000rpms that he does at 2000rpms. i do not know what is funny about that
helldorado 05-14-2006, 11:16 PM Hey guys, I'm not sure if this is my first post or not, normally I just lurk and lookup info about the car since I bought it for my GF and rarely get to drive it. I was browsing this thread since I have the 4AT for her and she's always telling me she wishes it was as fast as my G35.
:dienewbie
Anyway, I wanted to try and clear up some of the confusion I'm reading here. Gearing aside, meaning all things being equal, torque is what you want to increase on the engine. I know you're all saying HP because its a rotary, but HP is a made up number. Seriously, HP is nothing more than an arbitrary rating about a horse pulling 330 lbs of coal 100 feet in a minute. That number is derived off ft-lbs of torque. This is why torque matters and not HP. HP = torque * rpm / 5252
I haven't had a chance to dyno the car yet, but from what I saw in the dyno sticky, the torque curve is extremely flat compared to most other engines. So your "big HP gains" are only if your torque increases are strictly in the high end. If your torque gains are in the low end of the power band, it'll appear like you haven't gained any HP.
With a Lysholm twin screw charger, they develop full boost pretty much off idle and keep that boost level consistent up to redline. I'm not talking about roots, they get too hot to keep boost levels up at higher rpm's. But if you can pump an even 6 psi from 2000-7500 rpm, you'll see an even increase in torque, which will translate to much better HP gains on the high end as well.
So in the end, you want torque, both low and high because it means more HP overall. An extra 40-50 ft-lbs of torque throughout the entire power curve would do nicely. If you're going to take a baseline of 100 ft-lbs at 7000 rpm, which would be 133 whp, at 150 ft-lbs at 7000 rpm, you're up to 200 whp. That's what you want and its good for any kind of gearing, wide or narrow.
I'm going to keep an eye on this thread. With a little luck, something will be available for the 4 porters by the time I'm done modding the suspension and exterior on this bad boy for her. :rock:
My only consideration is... will the stock tranny be ok with the extra power? Or will it need to be rebuilt by somebody like Lentech?
snizzle 05-15-2006, 11:10 AM My only consideration is... will the stock tranny be ok with the extra power? Or will it need to be rebuilt by somebody like Lentech?
I have this same concern. Hymee, any idea what the stock tranny is rated at? I understand it was the same one used in the FD. A new tranny would significantly increase the cost of a project like this.
Rich Rx-8 05-15-2006, 07:27 PM :lol2: that's got to be the funniest post ever
Why is it funny ?? I want more torque, and I want it in low RPM's, what don't you understand punk ??
Rich Rx-8 05-15-2006, 07:28 PM I have this same concern. Hymee, any idea what the stock tranny is rated at? I understand it was the same one used in the FD. A new tranny would significantly increase the cost of a project like this.
I thought the FD tranny was pretty strong. Wouldn't it be strong enough, if not I agree it will definetly be more $$$. More $$$ sucks.
yiksing 05-15-2006, 10:36 PM :lol2: that's got to be the funniest post ever
I second that, I think he would enjoy a diesel truck.... hahhaaaaa
therm8 05-15-2006, 10:45 PM I second that, I think he would enjoy a diesel truck.... hahhaaaaa
How many diesel trucks do you know of that only put 125-130lb-ft of torque to the ground at 2000rpm... :rolleyes:
In all reality the twin-screw supercharger will allow for more than that out of the 4 port at low rpm.
So, again, what's so funny?
Rich Rx-8 05-20-2006, 12:47 PM Why is it funny ?? I want more torque, and I want it in low RPM's, what don't you understand punk ??
Again, why is this funny ??
Rich Rx-8 05-20-2006, 12:50 PM Yes low end torque is the only torque I care about. I want the torque that I currently get at 5000rpm's to blast in at 2000rpm's. :)
This is what I said, why is it funny/funniest post ever, I guess I don't get the joke, I want more low end torque ??
invasion08 05-20-2006, 07:43 PM So Hymee any updates?????
DOMINION 05-21-2006, 12:42 AM Yeah let us AT's know what the good word is
DOMINION 06-03-2006, 10:11 PM Dam. Big bump!~
snizzle 06-07-2006, 11:37 AM Sorry if I missed this but.... what engine management is Hymee using for this project?
Hymee 06-07-2006, 04:57 PM Sorry if I missed this but.... what engine management is Hymee using for this project?
For the development and initial prototypes we are using MoTeC as it is a proven reliable system that gives us complete control of fuelling and ignition. It is race proven and survives the heat of battle, has incredible logging and analysis capabilities, and gives infintely finer grain control than other systems.
However, we are not wedded to one management solution, and further down the track there is definate possibility of using other "cheaper" systems, including our own research into reflashing.
Cheers,
Hymee.
invasion08 06-07-2006, 06:12 PM Will we see the supercharger for the 8 by the end of the yr?
DOMINION 06-09-2006, 05:56 AM I hope so :Drooling_
cjkim 06-09-2006, 07:31 AM This is why torque matters and not HP. HP = torque * rpm / 5252
eh, the only thing correct about that would be the equation
you can apply force and do no work
So in the end, you want torque, both low and high because it means more HP overall.
okay, so in the end... you can just say you want HP -_-
Yes low end torque is the only torque I care about. I want the torque that I currently get at 5000rpm's to blast in at 2000rpm's.
you wanting more low end torque wasn't funny. wanting torque you currently get at 5000 in the lower range is funny. that would yield and increase of ohhh, what, maybe 15 ft/lb?
i just would expect someone who seems to be so torque hungry to want a bit more torque than a stock 8's peak. you make it seem like the 8 turns into a torque monster at 5000 rpm. in reality, this car's power delivery is very linear.
ride blindfolded with ear plugs and let's see how different it really *feels*. you might feel it, but it won't be much
SORRY FOR THE HIJACK!! let's see some automatic work now. I've got a manual, but I'd still like to see some automatic aftermarket support.
Rich Rx-8 06-09-2006, 11:35 PM My car really does jump foward at 5k rpm's, it definetly doesn't feel linear at all in regards to the power delivery. There's literally nothing off the line then it takes off. I have an '05 AT.
MazdaRX8er 06-09-2006, 11:44 PM is the supercharger on sale yet??
DOMINION 06-10-2006, 03:27 PM My car really does jump foward at 5k rpm's, it definetly doesn't feel linear at all in regards to the power delivery. There's literally nothing off the line then it takes off. I have an '05 AT.
You know. My car was strong after the brake in period. Now that my Engine has been re-built its even slower off the line. But I have hope after my brake in period it will come back to life :fingersx:
is the supercharger on sale yet??
Sadly its not.
RichardK 06-12-2006, 03:23 PM I'm looking forward to this being finished; the UK market 190s could do with a boost. Plus, unless things are changed, I think the simpler plumbing for the 4 port engine and lower rev limit might actually make this a really pleasant GT to drive day to day.
DOMINION 06-13-2006, 12:02 AM I hope so. Man I cant wait.
SlayerRX8 06-14-2006, 10:01 PM It's so frustrating waiting for this thing. I want it so much more than any other FI....and I'd get something else for my AT 8, but wait - there aren't any other options.
grrr
Wish there were something we could all do to help Hymee out and speed this stuff up.
Hymee 06-14-2006, 10:29 PM Wish there were something we could all do to help Hymee out and speed this stuff up.
I'm open to creative suggestions!
Cheers,
Hymee.
SlayerRX8 06-15-2006, 09:25 PM Awesome. I'm pondering it right now.
Discman2 06-16-2006, 01:38 AM I'm open to creative suggestions!
Cheers,
Hymee.
I have a creative suggestion
MORE POWER
:mdrmed:
DOMINION 06-16-2006, 06:55 AM Why not invest. So he can produce the SC in mass scale not only to the AT but to the MT as well?
invasion08 06-25-2006, 10:50 PM Any updates yet? I am waiting for your supercharger to come out. I already know someone who has the pettit supercharger installed on the auto rx8. But i believe that your company will have a better product. please dont let me down
DOMINION 06-26-2006, 01:18 AM Who has it? I know of 2 guys in the UK that are SC and one in the US that is SC. Good sh!t
Hymee 06-26-2006, 03:33 AM I'm really committed to delivering my kit to the Auto/4-port owners as well! It is just a matter of time. One of my main barriers locally is finding one to do it on. I am even considering selling my 6-port and getting a 4 port specifically for this! Oh well - I'm leaving my day job to concentrate on this Hymee stuff, so things might go quicker from now on!
Cheers,
Hymee.
SlayerRX8 06-26-2006, 09:58 PM Oh nice. Well you know what that means? If you relase this kit it a timely manner, I'll buy a hymee exhaust instead of a borla to help you support your new day job ;)
presequel 06-26-2006, 10:02 PM i'll buy hymee underwear if this comes out :)
DOMINION 06-27-2006, 05:02 AM I'm all about sticking to one company too! Come on Hymee we're behind you!
Marx8nka 06-27-2006, 08:37 AM there were a couple of volunteers providing their ATs for Hymee to test...
how much $$$ would be needed to fly from down under to US to make this happen - would there be enough sponsors reading this thread ?
therm8 06-27-2006, 05:00 PM there were a couple of volunteers providing their ATs for Hymee to test...
how much $$$ would be needed to fly from down under to US to make this happen - would there be enough sponsors reading this thread ?
^___ That would very much depend on the price that the kit will be sold at. Rumors put it way too high, but those are just rumors, and I won't spread them here.
snizzle 06-27-2006, 06:36 PM ^___ That would very much depend on the price that the kit will be sold at. Rumors put it way too high, but those are just rumors, and I won't spread them here.
But you did just that :spank:
DOMINION 06-28-2006, 02:33 PM ^LOL I would say $3,K+ Vs. the Greddy at what $5K?
SlayerRX8 07-23-2006, 01:46 PM Awhile ago I talked about ways we could help Hymee get this kit out. I don't know about all of you, but I'm in the US, and I don't have a vast amount of technical knowledge. Shipping cars overseas or doing R&D over here are both expensive. It seems like there isn't really any way to help Hymee out, but there IS.
I know it may sound obvious, but buying Hymee products helps out. Money can help speed up R&D, and helps make sure Hymee isn't on the street begging for change when he could be developing the kit :D
So I'm going to buy a Hymee exhaust. If you all really want to make a difference with this kit, buy a Hymee product! Besides, the exhaust sounds great.
If you want something done...do something about it!
www.performancedesign.com.au
DOMINION 07-24-2006, 07:16 AM I'm holding out. Till I see something. Then I'll go balls out and buy all his shit. I have ca$h. Its just that I dont want to mix an match parts like I did at first. But thats just me.
Hi all,
I think you will all be pleased to know that following our sucessful work to date with twin-screw supercharging a 6-port RX-8 and our very sucessful work with engine management, we at Performance Design Australia (the home of Hymee Enhanced) will be developing a version of the supercharger kit for the 4-port renesis engine.
This will be a real godsend for the auto owners out there, and the 5-speed manual ones in other parts of the world.
can i start cheering and raising hymee flags around the house in anticipation of it? :bowdown:
I'm really committed to delivering my kit to the Auto/4-port owners as well! It is just a matter of time. One of my main barriers locally is finding one to do it on.
come to romania, i'll give you a 5 spd M 8 for all the winter months (don't drive it in snow) :mdrmed:
Clavius 07-24-2006, 10:30 PM I want this kit to come out like yesterday.!!!
Well I just finished reading 10 pages of post's about this and I am excited and discouraged. Excited because I hear SC is awsome in a Rotary and I've heard from several friends that SC is more reliable (could be wrong but again what I have heard) than turbo. Discouraged because they have yet to find a A/T test subject.
Only solution I personaly can think of is.. kidnap hymee bring 'em to CA lock 'em up in a shop with someone's Rx8 A/T from our board and let 'em out once it is done. Over the top maybe but I'd love this kit to be out sooner rather than later hehe.. Just so I can start saving $$$ for it.
Please keep us updated though. :yesnod:
Hymee 07-24-2006, 10:39 PM Well, our first test subject will be a 4-port motor on the engine dyno. I guess that helps?
Just something worth mentioning, cause I haven't made much of an announcement, but all this stuff will move quicker now that I have left my full time employment to chase this dream. I have a lot of passion behind this!
Cheers,
Hymee.
snizzle 07-25-2006, 07:56 AM Hymee, that's great news. I think we can all tell you have a lot of passion for all this stuff.
I hope it all works out for you (and us)!!
Easy_E1 07-25-2006, 10:15 PM Well, our first test subject will be a 4-port motor on the engine dyno. I guess that helps?
Just something worth mentioning, cause I haven't made much of an announcement, but all this stuff will move quicker now that I have left my full time employment to chase this dream. I have a lot of passion behind this!
Cheers,
Hymee.
God Bless You Hymee,, And may the force be with you. :bowdown:
Clavius 07-25-2006, 10:21 PM Stupid question which I dont want a stupid answer to hehe..
But how long after the development is done will it take to get this to market?
Just wanna know so I know what to make santa.. erm I mean ask santa.. for Christmas/birthday for the next several years hehehe..
Again thanks Hymee for developing this.
SlayerRX8 07-29-2006, 01:07 AM I've thought up a good question. What sort of setup would be ideal for the car before installing this kit? I know you want it to be able to turn anyone's 8 into a tourque monster, but will any mods get in the way of the installation of the kit? ie: certain intakes, etc.
DOMINION 07-29-2006, 04:41 AM I would hold off with Engine mods till the kit is out ;)
DreRX8 07-30-2006, 11:55 AM I've thought up a good question. What sort of setup would be ideal for the car before installing this kit? I know you want it to be able to turn anyone's 8 into a tourque monster, but will any mods get in the way of the installation of the kit? ie: certain intakes, etc.
Only thing I would do is an exhaust system--most intakes will probably not be compatible.
invasion08 08-14-2006, 06:00 PM any updates yet?
Hymee 08-14-2006, 07:44 PM any updates yet?
Yeah :)
I got me a 4-port ECU (i.e. from an auto), for development of the tuning side of things. Lots more to this than just bolting up a blower ;)
Cheers,
Hymee.
Clavius 08-14-2006, 07:49 PM Yeah :)
I got me a 4-port ECU (i.e. from an auto), for development of the tuning side of things. Lots more to this than just bolting up a blower ;)
Cheers,
Hymee.
We dont need no stinking ECU just slap on dat blower hehe.. kidding kidding..
Well this answers a question I had of whats been going on. Try to keep us updated maybe every two weeks?! hehe ;)
Hymee 08-14-2006, 08:05 PM LOL - A Weber and a dizzy are going to cost more!
Easy_E1 08-17-2006, 11:45 PM Go Hymee Goooooooooo
04blue-8 08-18-2006, 12:20 AM Nice to hear my AT will finally have the kind of horsepower I was looking for someday. I'm keeping a close eye out for this and the pettit kit.
theboy 08-20-2006, 08:57 AM Hymee, have u think about this.
in a lot of asia country, climate is hot, malaysia, singapore, thailand, philipine, indonesia.
to have a turbo and supercharge relatively means u need to get better cooling system.
wanna do some research in a tropical resort in the borneo?
PM me, i got an auto 8 type E.
located at north borneo.
SlayerRX8 08-20-2006, 02:34 PM Hymee, have u think about this.
in a lot of asia country, climate is hot, malaysia, singapore, thailand, philipine, indonesia.
to have a turbo and supercharge relatively means u need to get better cooling system.
wanna do some research in a tropical resort in the borneo?
PM me, i got an auto 8 type E.
located at north borneo.
No worries, Hymee is playing it safe with heat issues. The manufacturer of these chargers says there isn't a need for an intercooler, but Hymee is going to have an intercooler and front mount radiatior anyway.
Basically, you should be ok. He's thinking this stuff out carefully.
invasion08 09-02-2006, 07:59 PM update?
Easy_E1 09-02-2006, 10:46 PM No worries, Hymee is playing it safe with heat issues. The manufacturer of these chargers says there isn't a need for an intercooler, but Hymee is going to have an intercooler and front mount radiatior anyway.
Basically, you should be ok. He's thinking this stuff out carefully.
They say an Intercooler helps the V-8's get more HP, so it sounds like a plan for the Rotary,,,can't wait.
DOMINION 09-06-2006, 06:46 AM Bump.
Clavius 09-10-2006, 01:48 PM Yar Hymee whats up our good good A/T SC friend... hehe.
I seen a picture of Petitt's SC and damn think I'm to used to seeing SC on V8's thing looks like a distilory attached to our rotary :Eyecrazy:
So any updates Hymee?!?!?!?!?!?!
Hymee 09-10-2006, 02:54 PM OK. I guess you have waited long enough :D How about this for an update?....
I am on the cusp of making some major announcements regarding some new products. This also affects (in a very positive manner) the development of the supercharger project. A massive amount of R&D is happening at the moment, hence my rather infrequent postings on here.
I have been toying with the idea of starting a blog, and you all can hook into that to get regular updates on the progress of stuff, as well as a garanteed good read :mdrmed: Please let me know if y'all reckon this blog is a good idea. I've burned a bit of time setting something up, and just stumbling over a new DB architecture I need to use. Won't be long... :angel:
I'll I can say at the moment is that the patience of the RX-8 community will be rewarded :ylsuper:
Cheers,
Hymee.
Clavius 09-10-2006, 03:07 PM I'm game for reading a blog hehe. I'm a brand loyalist btw and still flipping on which company to have my 8 get supped up on so this may sway me. Wish I could ask ya a price estimate but I know for a fact its way way way!!! to early for you to even guess that.
SlayerRX8 09-10-2006, 04:21 PM Yeah, a blog would be great. This charger is #1 on my list, but it won't stay that way without a sense of the progress being made. It's a good way to make sure everyone knows about all the progress you're making, and to maintain interest.
Hymee 09-10-2006, 05:20 PM The first few items for my blog are sure to excite you then!
SlayerRX8 09-15-2006, 06:19 PM Just in case some of you didn't notice, Hymee has the blog link in his sig now ;)
Hymee 09-16-2006, 12:02 AM I just need to find some time between R&D and working to post a few more posts about stuff I have been working on! :angel:
Cheers,
Hymee.
SlayerRX8 09-16-2006, 12:34 AM I just need to find some time between R&D and working to post a few more posts about stuff I have been working on! :angel:
Cheers,
Hymee. Of course. Time spent on the charger > time spent on the blog.
Still though, it was interesting reading how PDA was formed. I look forward to reading more :)
N rider89 09-16-2006, 01:44 AM Time spent on the charger > time spent on the blog.
i very much agree
Clavius 09-17-2006, 05:49 PM Sweet read on the blog Hymee especialy the info on the formation of your company. Nice to know your litteraly a common guy like us!
Hymee 09-17-2006, 06:54 PM Thanks mate. I just need to figure out how people can "subscribe" and get notifications whenever I add new content. I think I am on the right track. If anyone wants to shoot me the idots guide to RRS Feeds and Blog Subscription, then shoot me a PM. 10% discount off a sCANalyser for sucessful advice. :rock:
Cheers,
Hymee.
Clavius 09-17-2006, 08:51 PM Thanks mate. I just need to figure out how people can "subscribe" and get notifications whenever I add new content. I think I am on the right track. If anyone wants to shoot me the idots guide to RRS Feeds and Blog Subscription, then shoot me a PM. 10% discount off a sCANalyser for sucessful advice. :rock:
Cheers,
Hymee.
Damn you! I dont know about that site at all lol.. well for me I'll be checking it weekly regardless like on Saturdays or whatnot. Btw I forget which site but your screens are like $150 does that sound right?
SlayerRX8 09-18-2006, 08:49 PM Well, after looking at some of the numbers for pettit's blower, I'm not impressed. Hymee, if you can get the auto in the 220-230whp range (or more - more is always better) you have my money. I know pettit's numbers will be better with their larger blower, but I doubt it will be good enough to satisfy me. I got the impression you were going for bigger numbers than them - hope that's the case!
sosonic 09-20-2006, 12:20 AM Bigger numbers is good. Love to see near 5s, 0-60 RX-8 Autos.
Clavius 09-21-2006, 09:58 PM I found one of Hymee's orginal threads about a S/C and if he's aiming for the same thing we are game for good boost in HP. That and he has a test engine(s) as apposed to Pettit which from reading I guess they only used a test car (I could be wrong but its my impressiong from reading a few of the last pages of the thread.). Now Hymee get your ass in gear hahaha I need to know how much money I need to start saving ;)
Hymee 09-22-2006, 07:04 AM You know what I really, really want to do?
Finish my R&D, and take an auto kit to the US prior to SS9, fit it up to an auto RX-8 in the few days prior, have it tuned, and show it off at SS9. Wouldn't that be cool. All very possible if I get a few ducks in a row. I just need some sponsorship for airline tickets (*2)
Cheers,
Hymee.
SlayerRX8 09-22-2006, 10:07 AM Le sigh at my college budget. Where do you think the money will come from, Hymee?
sosonic 09-23-2006, 01:16 AM Looks like Hymee might be the first one with a "high power" supercharger for the RX-8 Auto in the new group coming out.
Getting RX-8 Autos in the 230 WHP to 250 WHP range, will be a big hit. But, we need more info., the more info. the better.
N rider89 09-23-2006, 04:32 AM oh my god i would shell out a good amount of money for 230whp
Clavius 09-23-2006, 11:25 AM You know what I really, really want to do?
Finish my R&D, and take an auto kit to the US prior to SS9, fit it up to an auto RX-8 in the few days prior, have it tuned, and show it off at SS9. Wouldn't that be cool. All very possible if I get a few ducks in a row. I just need some sponsorship for airline tickets (*2)
Cheers,
Hymee.
If SS9 was in the New England area.. and my car could be the test mule I'd be wiring you the money right the hell now Hymee :rock:
How much would tickets cost anyways?!
SlayerRX8 09-23-2006, 03:08 PM I was pondering the possible power numbers from possible with the AT, and as RP said in another thread, the % gains are higher with the AT than the MT. Looking at Pettit's numbers, they had a 4psi, 8psi, and 12psi kit for the MT. Each stage gets a gain of about 40whp with each raising of 4psi. Their AT model (with the smaller blower) got a gain of 60whp per 4psi. They're getting a bigger blower (maybe like the one you've been using Hymee?), and that will result in more airflow. I don't know how MUCH airflow, but I'll be conservative and say that it will gain an extra 10whp per 4psi at 70whp. That would mean stage their 4psi AT would be 200whp, their 8psi AT would be 270whp, and 12psi would be at 340whp.
One vid in the main Hymee Gets Supercharged thread shows the boost going up to 13psi. I'm very excited about this kit.
DISCLAIMER DISCLAIMER DISCLAIMER READ ME READ ME
I don't have too much knowledge about forced induction, but I noticed the relationship between boost level and hp gain on the other MT kit. There are other factors with the AT at play such as the torque converter, transmission cooling, etc. It may not be possible to get up that high with the AT, I don't know.
These are GUESSES from my very limited knowledge. Please don't start taking them as fact, or even probable. If anyone with more knowledge could correct me on any flawed logic, that would be great.
Either way, I can't wait to see what this kit can do.
N rider89 09-23-2006, 04:14 PM wow i dont even care if it gets way up there i just want a little extra power but a little more than that is good too
DOMINION 09-23-2006, 08:34 PM You know what I really, really want to do?
Finish my R&D, and take an auto kit to the US prior to SS9, fit it up to an auto RX-8 in the few days prior, have it tuned, and show it off at SS9. Wouldn't that be cool. All very possible if I get a few ducks in a row. I just need some sponsorship for airline tickets (*2)
Cheers,
Hymee.
I'll comp your room at my hotel if you sponser my winning blue at 8 :wiggle:
Clavius 09-23-2006, 08:54 PM ^ haha you go Dom... get Hymee ova here.. wish I worked in the airline business 'cause I'd definatly hook him up. Get both our cars sponsored with the S/C hehe
Hymee 09-25-2006, 12:46 PM If SS9 was in the New England area.. and my car could be the test mule I'd be wiring you the money right the hell now Hymee :rock:
How much would tickets cost anyways?!
I need $3000 US to fund 2 x return tickets (on the cheap). Who wants to pass the hat around :o: Need to make a few other things fall into place before we commit, but it is not outside the realms of possibility. Would need access to a workshop and a chassis dyno as well. Maybe someone from Snap-On could sponsor us, hehehe.
Cheers,
Hymee.
DOMINION 09-26-2006, 08:05 PM Hymee what time of year are you looking to come out? SS9 time?
Clavius 09-26-2006, 08:11 PM I need $3000 US to fund 2 x return tickets (on the cheap). Who wants to pass the hat around :o: Need to make a few other things fall into place before we commit, but it is not outside the realms of possibility. Would need access to a workshop and a chassis dyno as well. Maybe someone from Snap-On could sponsor us, hehehe.
Cheers,
Hymee.
Is there such a thing as 5th class seats hehehe... j/k.
Wish I was making more money because I'd definatly be helping you out. Aparently Petti is having their cat's melting and stuff when they goto 8psi. Btw still liking the blogs.. learned alot though some of it went over my head hahaha.
Hymee 09-29-2006, 08:06 AM Hymee what time of year are you looking to come out? SS9 time?
Lets assume for a moment that I can bring a kit to bolt-up onto a 4-port with me to LA a few days before SS9, and someone gives us access to a workshop, and a donor auto to try it out on, and access to a chassis dyno so we can tune it, would I have any takers? I would at least need the lucky donor to pay for the parts. Help with airfares would be good as well.
I am 100% serious about this
Cheers,
Hymee.
snizzle 09-29-2006, 08:30 AM Ugh, why do I have to be on the complete opposite side of the US.......
Somebody needs to jump on this. It's an awesome opportunity.
Hymee 09-29-2006, 09:01 AM At least it is in the right country!!!
4 years to Supercharge 09-29-2006, 09:06 AM At least it is in the right country!!!
Very true Hymee!
We appreciate all of your efforts, they will not go unfruitful.
If I had an auto I would drive it to Cali for fitment. Think it is 1600 miles away from me which is about 30 hours one way. :D: Pretty sure it would take you less time to fly from the land down under than for me to drive...
SlayerRX8 09-29-2006, 10:16 AM :(
I really want to be that donor car! Two things are holding me back, though.
1. my 8 isn't running smoothly, and I need to take it in to be looked at for that...plus the recall.
2. I'm in college and I can't drive across the country for such a long period of time and miss all that work!
Hymee - I suggest posting this proposal in a higher traffic area, like your main Hymee gets Supercharged thread in Major Horsepower Upgrades. Also I'm going to start looking through names on here and see if anyone is remotely close to LA....like less than 3,000 miles away like snizzle and me.
Edit: PM N^Rider!!!
This is your chance N^Rider! Get that Ness-powered RX-8 going!
SlayerRX8 09-29-2006, 10:19 AM Also, Dominion - do you still have an AT 8? you aren't TOO far from there!
N rider89 09-29-2006, 06:04 PM huh what supercharge??
um id need to hear some more details before i kinda jump into this but im definetly interested. its like a 5 hour drive to la for me so not too bad.
check with Dom though cause he maybe be closer than i am
also props on knowing ness :mdrmed:
DOMINION 09-29-2006, 06:22 PM Lets assume for a moment that I can bring a kit to bolt-up onto a 4-port with me to LA a few days before SS9, and someone gives us access to a workshop, and a donor auto to try it out on, and access to a chassis dyno so we can tune it, would I have any takers? I would at least need the lucky donor to pay for the parts. Help with airfares would be good as well.
I am 100% serious about this
Cheers,
Hymee.
Hymee, I can take care of your room/stay out in LA and I would be more than happy to let you have at my at 8 for as long as you need. But I can't afford the parts :(
What are you'r thoughts on this?
Thanks,
-Gilbert
SlayerRX8 09-29-2006, 06:27 PM There we go!
I knew we'd find someone who could do it :)
Hymee 09-29-2006, 06:29 PM Hymee, I can take care of your room/stay out in LA and I would be more than happy to let you have at my at 8 for as long as you need. But I can't afford the parts :(
What are you'r thoughts on this?
Thanks,
-Gilbert
No worries. I'd be happy to take them back off again and bring them home with me. Kinda reduces my risks somewhat, so is sensible in that regard.
Cheers,
Hymee.
Hymee 09-29-2006, 06:30 PM huh what supercharge??
Some people miss all the action ;)
Have a read of this:
http://www.rx8club.com/showthread.php?t=36376
Cheers,
Hymee.
N rider89 09-29-2006, 06:44 PM no no no, i was just kidding ive read all abou this. im excited :kiss:
SlayerRX8 09-29-2006, 08:21 PM When this all works out...someone PLEASE FOR THE LOVE OF GOD take videos! And pics!
And specs if possible ;)
Hymee 09-29-2006, 10:22 PM I've posted vids of the 6-port in action.
Clavius 09-29-2006, 10:29 PM I've posted vids of the 6-port in action.
WHERE?!?!?!?!?!?!??!! Me wanna watch!!!
Hymee 09-29-2006, 11:07 PM WHERE?!?!?!?!?!?!??!! Me wanna watch!!!
Buried way back somewhere. Around page 50 or 60 I think.
Here are some links to make it easier ;)
http://rx8.hymee.com/videos/pda_blown_rx8.wmv
http://rx8.hymee.com/videos/PDA_SC_RX8_FirstRunning.wmv
http://rx8.hymee.com/videos/PDA_SC_RX8_PolyV_1stRunning.wmv
http://rx8.hymee.com/videos/PDA_SC_RX8_Wildcard_FirstRun.wmv
http://rx8.hymee.com/videos/PDA_SC_RX8_13PSI.wmv
http://rx8.hymee.com/videos/PDA_SC_RX8_DynoSessions.wmv
http://rx8.hymee.com/videos/PDA_SC_RX8_Dyno_Wheel.wmv
http://rx8.hymee.com/videos/PDA_SC_RX8_RedHotCat.wmv
Enjoy!
Cheers,
Hymee.
N rider89 09-29-2006, 11:08 PM 6 port? who needs six ports? is all about 4:lol:
Clavius 09-29-2006, 11:27 PM Hmm... I noticed from the first set of video's to the last set that the set up of the S/C has changed alot. That and you've noticed that the S/C heats up the cat ALOT. I'm sure its been discussed in your other M/T thread but have you addressed this yet? or was this durring one of your "Run it till it breaks" kinda runs haha.
Hymee 09-30-2006, 04:14 AM The Red car had the first prototype on which was low boost and non-intercooled. This was just to proove basic operation and that we had adequate engine management in place. That proved a sucess. This car had standard exhaust headers and cat.
The Silver car, the second prototype had a bigger blower and an intercooler, but was the same configuration otherwise. We even used the same intake manifold, although with a section "chopped out" when the intercooler was plumbed in. The cat that got "red hot" was not stock, and was sitting on the back of a set of custom headers. This cat/exhaust header combo is still in use today.
You might also not the initial runs on the red car used a toothed belt, but that proved a failure. The poly-V belt fixed those issues.
Cheers,
Hymee.
DOMINION 09-30-2006, 05:10 AM No worries. I'd be happy to take them back off again and bring them home with me. Kinda reduces my risks somewhat, so is sensible in that regard.
Cheers,
Hymee.
I see. What if I covered you'r stay and airfair would you sponser me then?
Thanks,
-Gilbert
Clavius 09-30-2006, 10:08 AM I see. What if I covered you'r stay and airfair would you sponser me then?
Thanks,
-Gilbert
Dom get ahold of some of your boobie stripper friends :rofl:
Might increase your chances hehehe
SlayerRX8 09-30-2006, 12:53 PM I've posted vids of the 6-port in action.
Yeah, I've seen those...they really got me excited about the project :)
I just meant videos of the 4 port running at SS9! I bet the gains are surprisingly good!
DOMINION 09-30-2006, 02:42 PM Dom get ahold of some of your boobie stripper friends :rofl:
Might increase your chances hehehe
:naughty:
Clavius 09-30-2006, 03:14 PM ^ hahaha..Hymee's adventures in America.. I can see the arrest headlines now hahaha
DOMINION 10-01-2006, 09:04 PM Coming soon on video! lol
Clavius 10-01-2006, 09:19 PM The ending of the movie is Dom driving away with his brand new S/C Rx-8.. with strippers in each of the 3 remaining seats :rock:
Ok now seriously.... (I notice with any thread we side track ourselves haha)...I've noticed with the 6 port S/C it to a point looks pretty much complete in terms of build. Now if I'm assuming this to be correct is the only thing holding you back is cracking the ECU (aparently this thing is harder to crack than the pentagon's pc's!). Also how side tracked do you get with the S/C R&D? I know or have a feeling you have other projects in the works and if so what are they! lol..
Razz1 10-01-2006, 09:19 PM Something smells fishy here........
DOMINION 10-01-2006, 10:42 PM *Sniff sniff*
Easy_E1 10-01-2006, 10:55 PM It's coming closer and closer and CLOSER !
snizzle 10-02-2006, 07:54 AM Hymee, does the mileage of your 8 matter? what do you think is the cutoff point as far as the age/mileage of your car?
DOMINION 10-03-2006, 09:22 PM ^I would think abou the life expectancy of your engine ;)
N rider89 10-03-2006, 09:48 PM hey dom did you get the sc details worked out? it would be cool to see at 7stock
Hymee 10-05-2006, 12:35 PM OK fella's, here is an update of sorts...
I have paid for my air fares, thanks in part to RP. Nice one.
I will be bringing a 4-port version of my kit, in "as close to production form" as possible given the time frame. I won't get a chance to install it on a car or tune it.
If someone has a 4-port engine that I can mount it on for display purposes, could you please let me know, so I don't have to bring ours! Even if it was pretty bare.
I can probably bring a 6-port kit as well, but I'll leave that discussion for the other thread. I just don't know how many extra kg's I can take!!!
Looking forward to seeing y'all there at SevenStock :D
Cheers,
Hymee.
SlayerRX8 10-05-2006, 01:19 PM Well Hymee, you've definitely gotten over a major hurdle in getting the 4 port version to Sevenstock. It's too bad it won't be installed/tuned, but obviously you have a lot to do in a very small time frame.
Good luck promoting the charger, and tell us if RG snores. :mdrmed:
Hymee 10-05-2006, 01:30 PM Yeah - would love be able to install one and tune it etc, but that is just far to risky at this stage. I would rather have the high quality componentty on show along with the results of the engine dyno work we are doing at the moment on the 6-port) under my belt.
There is something else I'll be bringing to SS9 as well. $10 a peek. I have to pay for my air fares somehow!! Perverts need not be bothered!!!
Cheers,
Hymee.
DOMINION 10-05-2006, 07:51 PM Will trade you some boobies for that $10 fee ;)
Sounds great. I cant wait to get sc on my 8!
sosonic 10-06-2006, 02:42 AM Too bad about not getting the 4 port SC on a car, but great work Hymee. No perverts, give Hymee $10 bucks. When SS9 is all over, we need him to get home and start producing those SC kits.
Phil's 8 10-06-2006, 08:23 AM OK fella's, here is an update of sorts...
I have paid for my air fares, thanks in part to RP. Nice one.
I will be bringing a 4-port version of my kit, in "as close to production form" as possible given the time frame. I won't get a chance to install it on a car or tune it.
If someone has a 4-port engine that I can mount it on for display purposes, could you please let me know, so I don't have to bring ours! Even if it was pretty bare.
I can probably bring a 6-port kit as well, but I'll leave that discussion for the other thread. I just don't know how many extra kg's I can take!!!
Looking forward to seeing y'all there at SevenStock :D
Cheers,
Hymee.
Will you have a booth or will I have to "find you"? The only four port I have is in my AT8 but you are welcome to use it Saturday if needed.
DOMINION 10-07-2006, 02:36 PM I can see it now: "Step right up ladies and gentlemen"
presequel 10-11-2006, 01:56 AM i really want this O___O
SlayerRX8 10-11-2006, 12:47 PM i really want this O___O
haha don't we all...
DOMINION 10-13-2006, 08:46 PM Man I cant wait! Everyday I check this thread and the SoCal SS9 thread too!
N rider89 10-13-2006, 08:51 PM ^yeah me too
Clavius 10-21-2006, 05:37 PM Hymee update? haha.. been awhile since anyone said it.. I had to! :yesnod:
DOMINION 10-22-2006, 05:26 PM Yeah bump!
SlayerRX8 10-22-2006, 09:03 PM bump n grind
sosonic 10-24-2006, 09:32 PM It sucks that nobody is going to give out any info. until SS9. Even after SS9, I wonder how much info. we will get and how long the delay will be before the kits are ready for sale.
Clavius 10-24-2006, 10:09 PM Pretty much MT>AT so once the MT is fully realized and on its way to production I'm sure ours will be a few months away afterwards.
sosonic 10-30-2006, 08:42 PM Any news on Hymee and his supercharger? I was looking forward to hearing about this one.
Clavius 10-31-2006, 05:10 PM Aparently Hymee is sick so he didnt goto SS9 :( :( :( alot of people were disapointed 'cause they wanted to see the product (not finished but close product). Well Hymee get better soon man...!
DOMINION 10-31-2006, 06:56 PM Get well soon Hymee :)
SlayerRX8 10-31-2006, 11:50 PM Yeah get well (again)
:)
N rider89 11-01-2006, 03:59 AM yeah i was bummed he wasnt there but health comes first. its more important to get healthy
get well soon :)
sosonic 11-03-2006, 09:10 AM I hope Hymee gets well soon.
I've been looking at different features on superchargers and turbos, and I must say that I really like the directions that Hymee has went.
1. Like the bypass value.
2. Like the constant boost. He was toying around with 10 PSI at a constant from around 2K to redline. Even the RX-8 Autos will love this as its brake-launch point is 2K.
3. I like the piggy back Motec. Now, I know there are different schools of thought from flashing the ECU to using the Interceptor or Greedy Emanage, but this one makes tuning easy.
A big problem for overseas buyers and some locals, will be finding a qualified tuner. One thing that was interesting about the Blitz supercharger, was you could choose your boost levels and keep your ECU.
With Hymee's method, it appears you don't have to worry about tuning anything or playing with your ECU. The boost will be constat and set at 10 psi and the piggy back motec does anything else extra. Basically, this puts you in a "plug and play" type win-win situation.
Basically we need to know HP and price. I was expecting that after SS9 we would get some answers, but it looks like we have to still wait.
I'm just big guessing (as I don't know), but it would seem he would come in around 70-90 HP gain (based on the type of twinscrew supercharger and 8 to 10 psi) or around 270 WHP (300 HP SAE) or around 220 WHP to 240 WHP (depends on your model of AT and country) for ATs (275 HP SAE). What you get of course depends on your WHP starting point.
Price? Well based on what RP, Pettit, Mazsport, etc... have been throwing around. You would think $5,000 (U.S. dollars) to $7,500 (Just a huge guess).
Still wondering if the final release will let you keep your strut bar?
Also, wondering about the air intake. Will CAI or stock intakes be possible?
Clavius 11-03-2006, 05:46 PM Right now oi my mind and heart is torn in soooo many directions on what I wish to save for, for a big purchase for my 8. Mazsport Kit is just awsome from the numbers being put out on your forum but the price is a tad bit hight BUT it seems to have everything you'll need for a install (hence no real hidding price increases). Pettit I dunno havent followed their thread in awhile but it seems that the MT is coming out first and the AT sometime after that (I could be wrong i'm just assuming). Now with Hymee's just a matter of Hp output at what PSI and how reliable it is in the long run. Though I do give credit to Hymee for keeping his mouth shut for the most part about his lol.. as bad as it sounds sometime to little info is a good thing. :) Keeps the air of mystery up in the air.
SlayerRX8 11-03-2006, 07:22 PM Hymee's kit will be higher-end....kinda like how Mazsport is right now with the turbos, except it's a supercharger with instant boost to redline. I'd expect great things from this kit. We just need to wait and save that money.
sosonic 11-04-2006, 02:14 AM 10 psi instant boost is sure to be a big hit. Its why I like going supercharger.
The RX-8 Auto/MT has plenty up top because of its high rev engine. Once your going 100 MPH, you are doing fine. The RX-8 needs LOW END power. Nobody likes to say it, but its 0-60 to 1/4 mile numbers that many would like to see improve. Its not to say the RX-8 should be a drag car. The RX-8 is so much more than a heavy straight line brick, like other cars. Yes, there is more than straight line performance, but 0-60 to 1/4 mile is a standard in which to compare. A good supercharger kit, can give you that quick response and low end bang.
There seems to be something magical about the 8 psi to 10 psi range. Its enough to get good numbers, but not too much to force you to start having to upgrade other parts of your engine right away. There is no such thing as "safe boost" without proper tuning. But these supercharger and turbo threads are showing there is a safer boost range with good tuning.
Emagdnim37 11-14-2006, 10:19 PM ok so whats the latest with this project? any ideas on a completion timeframe?
SlayerRX8 11-14-2006, 10:55 PM Who knows? Hymee has kinda disappeared in the last month or so. He seems to be having some health issues, so we're all wishing him well. If you're out there Hymee, we'd love to hear you're doing ok.
DOMINION 12-04-2006, 04:49 AM Dito that get well soon man :)
Steakboy42 02-26-2007, 09:10 AM big bump for dominion
-Steakboy
DOMINION 02-26-2007, 03:21 PM Dam!! has it been that long? Guess its time to move to Australia :)
snizzle 02-26-2007, 03:48 PM I thought this project was put on hold. Hope all is well Hymee!!
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