After the GT-R Concept unveiled at the 35th Tokyo Motor Show in 2001, Nissan presents the GT-R PROTO, a vision of the next production model that will be on sale in 2007.

Exterior design

The design of the GT-R PROTO expresses GT-R heritage, coming from the first model PGC10 (1969) through R34 (1999), in a new and expressive form.

From its original roots as a pure-bred Japanese performance car, the new GT-R will now be a car sold globally, recognising its ability to compete with the very best in the world. For the first time in its history, the new GT-R will be designed as a specific body-style, and not derived from a sedan.

The form of the GT-R PROTO instantly expresses its purpose and potential, but in a way that is unique to this iconic car.

At the front end, the single centre air intake is designed to optimise airflow and to strongly link the identity of the GT-R from R34 to GT-R Concept (2001). Front fenders are uniquely designed through intensive analysis of the airflow around the tyres and the air vent behind the front fender also optimises aerodynamics. The sides of the body are sculptured towards the rear fender, expressing the power and dynamic tension of the car.


The overall shape of the body combines solid and smooth surfaces. The unique C-pillar crease is designed for optimum aerodynamics, reflecting the racing DNA of the GT-R.

The rear of the GT-R PROTO is strong and defined. The signature four ring-shaped tail lamps provide an immediate visual link to previous GT-R models. Four large-bore exhaust pipes complete the purposeful look.

The GT-R PROTO provides for the first time a clear indication of the final design direction for the production model to be

http://www.carbodydesign.com/concept-cars/2005/10-05-nissan-gtr-concept/Nissan%20GTR%20Proto%20Concept.jpg

http://www.carbodydesign.com/concept-cars/2005/10-05-nissan-gtr-concept/Nissan%20GTR%20Proto%20Concept%202.jpg

that is delicious!!

I would sell everything I own to get this if it comes out and looks anything like that.

OMG that is nasty....

The front looks like the new eclipse. BLEGH

The front looks more like the Skyline concept from years ago.
http://www.jbskyline.net/V35/GTR/V35%20GT-R%20Concept%20front%20left2.jpg

drooooooool.... whao, just whao

Lord that's beautiful.

damm...

too bad the production model will never look like that.

we will se the actual concept later this month but this is the direction it is supposed to go

Japan will attack Pearl Harbor again before anything that futuristic and sexy makes it to production.

BTW...Anybody else think the front end looks a little like an SRT-4?

http://media2.hebdo.net/newvehicles/2005/Dodge_SX20-SRT4.jpg

Japan will attack Pearl Harbor again before anything that futuristic and sexy makes it to production.

BTW...Anybody else think the front end looks a little like an SRT-4?

http://media2.hebdo.net/newvehicles/2005/Dodge_SX20-SRT4.jpg

i disagree with the futuristic and sexy statement. i dont really see anything similar to the srt, only the part between the head lights a little.

only the part between the head lights a little. Yeah the fascia, not the whole front end. That's what I meant. The design of the grill and intercooler is somewhat similair IMHO.

yeah in a way.

thats sick!

im so saving up for this baby

BTW...Anybody else think the front end looks a little like an SRT-4?

It looks like the nose of the SRT is sticking out from the middle of the front bumper.

Anyway, I like the style, they just need to kill off the SUPER long headlights. Make them look more like an updated version of the R34 headlights placed where the glare is on the illustration. That would make it TOTALLY amazing

The grill looks almost exactly like that of the Evo X.
http://www.carbodydesign.com/concept-cars/2005/10-05-nissan-gtr-concept/Nissan%20GTR%20Proto%20Concept.jpg
http://www.leblogauto.com/images/x2.jpg

But when do these kind of drawings ever look anything close to the produciton model?

looks amazing, like the nissan powered tommy karia, car.

The grill looks almost exactly like that of the Evo X.

Or like the concept car I posted from about 5 years ago.

But when do these kind of drawings ever look anything close to the produciton model?
The Eclipse concept E looked like its drawings. This is only a concept(closer to the final version then before but a concept none the less) so my guess is that the actual concept does look like this but maybe not the final production version.

well this is very interesting. its a cound down timer
http://www.gtrproto.com/

Awesome, so it's scheduled to unveil on the 18th~19th?

Long headlights aren't going to go away. The next Z is going to have something similar. It's due around 2007 as well if I remember the article correctly.

According to the JDM mag I was skimming... Nissan is looking at AWD again. But no ATTESA.... they are looking at developing an entirely new version with no relation to the previous one to power this car. The front and rear frame are rumored to be aluminum space frame. Various engines have been tested... S/C V6 to elec assisted TT V6... it's looking like TT V6 is the winner. Price... estimated to run 8-9 million yen ($80k-90k). Beautiful, but will never grace my driveway at that price...

Latest i heard was electric assisted twin turbo 3.2L v6 with all-wheel drive. The suspension was done by lotus too. oh and the new z is in 2009, while the GT-R is in 07' :D

Source? I'm diggin' the 360 modena style rear.

Man, that look sick. I'm going to have to sell my house in 07.

Dont remeber the exact sources but it was interviews with nissan reps.

13 hours 35 mins left......

13 hours 25 mins left

13 hours left

Why are you counting down?

Thats how many hours until the gtr proto will be unvailed.

Why are you counting down? That is when the GT-R will be unveiled.

Oh and Cosworth, mmmmmm.

edit- Mike beat me :(

That is when the GT-R will be unveiled.

Oh and Cosworth, mmmmmm.

edit- Mike beat me :(
lol. I can wait! :D I have the mind of a little kid when it comes to cars. lol :D

lol. I can wait! :D I have the mind of a little kid when it comes to cars. lol :D
So do I. 12hrs 53min. :D

where is this thing being unveiled that I have to stay up till 3 in the morning!! :mad:

wait. probably japan eh?
shitty.

yup but my guess is we will have some good pictures tomarrow.

6 hours 30 mins

I just checked now too! I was waiting until 5 hours to post again though. Didn't want to seem desperate :p

I just checked now too! I was waiting until 5 hours to post again though. Didn't want to seem desperate :p
I'm desperate :p Gimme mah pics! :D

6 Hours. :D

I just had to join in.

The countdown on the flash site is actually controlled by YOUR system time. If you move your time ahead 2 hours, it will effect the countdown clock. Just for the heck of it, I moved it to a time that I would have 10 seconds left...hoping that once it hit 0, it would open something..but it didnt...

I'm desperate :p Gimme mah pics! :D
I neeeeeeeed them. lol, This thing is so hyped up!


Oh and ........5 hours 27 mins. ;)

courtesy of your friendly neighberhood g35driver.com
http://g35driver.com/forums/showthread.php?p=794452#post794452

I think they're photochops, just someones rendition of what it might look like. We still have time until the real photos come out. :(
They do look kind of cool though, I hope a lot of these design ideas are in the actual car. :)

i ain't a fan - i don't care how fast it is.

yeah, its obviously photoshopped

like it says in the post... just artists renditions

3 hours and 21 minutes... im assuming theyre unveiling it at the tm autoshow?

Geeeeze i got excited! i thaught it was the real one..... :(

3 hours and 21 minutes... im assuming theyre unveiling it at the tm autoshow?
correct.
3 hours........

According to nicoclub.com, those pictures are from the offical Nissan press release.

The press release claims the photos are 80-90% of what the production model will be.

The roofline reminds me of this:
http://fast-autos.net/koenigsegg/ccr3.jpg

DUDE! I was totally, like, thinking the exact same thing!! Like, OMG, how crazy is that?? tee hee

I don't know where that came from, seriously though, I was thinking the same. I love that look, reminds me of a jet.

PS. I love the rear, love the profile, front could use a little work. I like the lights, not really the droopy part, maybe if the whole thing was thinner. I dunno. I'd spend my dollars on it if it lives up to the hype

I hope youve got a lot of dollars to spend because its out of most people's price range. its going to be an infiniti and priced 70k-80k, going up against the next acura NSX and lexus LF-A super cars in the US. will probably depreciate slow as hell too.

I should have 70k by 2008



I hope

well good luck buddy. i know i sure as hell woudlnt have that kinda money. Id try to buy a house before i buy a car that expensive. if you get it, youd be the envy of a lot of people :)
btw its US dollars not canadian dollars :p

According to nicoclub.com, those pictures are from the offical Nissan press release.

my mistake youre right, these are indeed official pics.
http://techon.nikkeibp.co.jp/article/EVENT_LEAF/20051019/109807/

now we are just waiting on show floor pics

I should have 70k by 2008



I hope
WTF mate!? :eek: I might have to do a little theivery on your side of the border if/when you happen to get one of these :D

I really like the pictures, but some numbers/videos or even just more pics would be absolutely wonderful. :)

looks sweet but I'd wait to see what Toyota and Honda have up their sleeve. the GTR looks like a done up 350/G35 morph.

http://www.autoweek.com/news.cms?newsId=103419 autoweek article

Merged.

courtesy of your friendly neighberhood g35driver.com
http://g35driver.com/forums/showthread.php?p=794452#post794452

Looks like the drawings in all the JDM mags. It doesn't look right... maybe computer enhanced/retouched... maybe they did it to take off the disguise. Dunno. But it looks acurate.

JDM mags have had many pics of the test mules which were Skyline GT35/G35c with fender flares, air damn, big ass tires and "RX-8 -like" oil cooler openings.

The latest word which was going into detail with pics/photoshops (?) of the various engines tested, said that it is supposed to use aluminum space frame in the front and rear to save weight. AWD will be via an entirely new ATTESA system.

Dayum it looks pretty mean. I like everything except the long narrow headlights. Hopefully that's one of the things they'll rethink before rolling the first GT-R off the assembly line. Definately worth the wait though IMHO.

Looks like the drawings in all the JDM mags. It doesn't look right... maybe computer enhanced/retouched... maybe they did it to take off the disguise. Dunno. But it looks acurate.

JDM mags have had many pics of the test mules which were Skyline GT35/G35c with fender flares, air damn, big ass tires and "RX-8 -like" oil cooler openings.

The latest word which was going into detail with pics/photoshops (?) of the various engines tested, said that it is supposed to use aluminum space frame in the front and rear to save weight. AWD will be via an entirely new ATTESA system.
My thaughts exactly. now i want a shot of it on the show room floor

I'm not feelin it yet ... and yes, I'm a fan of the GT-R.

Don't like it

http://www.skylinesaustralia.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=90043&pid=1652796&st=20&#entry1652796
check out the video at the bottom of ths thread.

2 years to go.

http://www.autoweek.com/files/specials/2005_tokyo/gallerys/nissan_gtr/pages/02.htm
show floor pics

Is it me or does the GT-R and the Mitsu Concept X have extremely similar front ends on them?

why not go to the source:
http://www.gtrproto.com

Everyone has.

Anyways, i'm kinda dissapointed that this car doesn't have an interior. I mean really. They have been developing this thing for god knows how long, the other concept was shown in 2001. Would and interior be too much to ask?

Me likey, but also disappointed about the interior. Still no numbers? :eek:

here are your showroom floor pix :

http://modified.com/gtr/

Wow, it looks a lot bigger now that I have people for reference, that's kinda sad. And that dude looks like Mr Bean.

i don't like the way the roof line comes up then swoops down....looks like a duck...haha

Wow, it looks a lot bigger now that I have people for reference, that's kinda sad. And that dude looks like Mr Bean.
Mr. Bean is teh pwn! Yea I have the same feelings. I thought it looked book in the first photos, but figured it would look smaller when I had something to reference, guess not. :( I'm sure it will still handle like a champ though.

i don't like the way the roof line comes up then swoops down....looks like a duck...haha
Then I swoop down, from the rafters...LIKE A BAT! :D
10 points to whoever can tell me what that is from :p

...Swoops down, from the rafters...LIKE A BAT!
10 points to whoever can tell me what that is from
Batman!?!?!?

i don't like the way the roof line comes up then swoops down....looks like a duck...haha
I'm not liking the roof line and the head lights. The R34 didn't really look like anything else in the Nissan line up at the time, why does the R35 have to? I'm really not liking where this design is going.

What does this car look like in their lineup?

What does this car look like in their lineup?
I can sort of see some G35 in it, but that's really looking. I think it's a pretty unique car as far as Nissans are concerned. I like what they did, I just hope it isn't too big/fat. :rolleyes:

SUPRISE SUPRISE.

People think it looks like an 8.

http://www.rx8club.com/showthread.php?p=1093865&posted=1#post1093865

funny to me it just loks like a reskinned g35c.imho they sem to have just thrown some old gt-r cues at g35c. no imagination

SUPRISE SUPRISE.

People think it looks like an 8.

http://www.rx8club.com/showthread.php?p=1093865&posted=1#post1093865

Morons...

funny to me it just loks like a reskinned g35c.imho they sem to have just thrown some old gt-r cues at g35c. no imagination

Considering the G35 is a Skyline what else would you expect? That's a pretty drastic reskin though...

i know im just saying i dont see the big deal i guess.

i know im just saying i dont see the big deal i guess.

From my pojnt of view the looks have always been an aside for the GT-R much like the STi and Evo. If you like the looks it's just gravy.

Well I couldn't upload it to the site, because of the 'partially loaded' problem. But, I made this little comparo. I don't really see any lines shared between the two cars.
http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b153/BlueEyes43/Comparison.jpg

Nice Comparison BlueEyes. Yes, I don't see anything in common between the g35 skyline and this new one.

I see alittle Koenigsegg in the roof of the Proto

http://www.koenigsegg.se/graphics/startimage_front_1.jpg

Dude! It's identical! Look at the rims on the cars, it's both 7 spokes! Coincidence? I think not :rolleyes:















I'm being sarcastic by the way.

From my pojnt of view the looks have always been an aside for the GT-R much like the STi and Evo. If you like the looks it's just gravy.
Yea I'm kind of in that same boat. I see what you're saying Zoom, but the reskin is pretty nice. The headlights are eh, but the rest looks nice, just a little too big.

BlueEyes, I won't quote you to save the others from all the photo-age, but I disagree. For some reason I see it like Zoom mentioned. Now, of course they aren't all that similar but by looking at the two, I see a great resemblence. The lines are different yes, but similar curves, body shape, wheelbase and wheelwells. I don't know, they just seem like they're closer than distant cousins to me.

i want to see mazda come back with a new 7... and blow this thing out of the water.

I will say... i think the new GTR will look real good in black. I'm not a big fan of the black/silver two tone in the front bumper.

this is what i see. i could be wrong. but like ike said- the gtr styling was always not the point. in fact maybe even counter to the point. nice looking yes but a beast under the skin. sleeper like. without talking about its performance i dont see the point of the styling excercise

edit well i guess ill have to figure out that patially loading thing now :o

I agree with Ike. The looks of the GTR have never been real "pretty"... like the STi and Evo. It was about performance first... function before form... based off the Skyline chassis. Don't like the rebadged Skyline GT350/G35c look? I can see you guys know little about the the Skyline line. Take a look at the last two generations of 4 door sedan and 2 door coupe Skylines in comparison to the GTR models. The GTR just looks like a Skyline coupe with a bodykit. So what's wrong with this new one? It looks even LESS like a Skyline coupe with a bodykit and more like a car that just shares the same platform (like the Volvo S40 and Mazda3).

Whether or not you like the styling... honestly it looks like a case of tuff luck. Not just because you have no part in the decision making process, but also because some of the same styling cues seem to be a current industry trend. The front, for example, we see if on VW, Audi, Evo X, Galant...

Personally I don't think it looks bad... as someone mentioned it'll probably look mean in black... and it'll probably perform like a champ. The LF-A? If you hate electronic nannying, DSG/SMG transmissions and such then it's going to suck. Besides that... I dunno... Toyota can just never seem to make a car that I like and/or respect... both from a styling perspective and a performance perspective. We'll see what happens, but I have my doubts. Of course Honda will answer with a new NSX... which will probably get it's ass handed to it like in the past as well, but handle very good and be over-priced. Interesting times... makes me wish I had a lot more income.

Dude! It's identical! Look at the rims on the cars, it's both 7 spokes! Coincidence? I think not :rolleyes:

I'm being sarcastic by the way.

Yeah, I must be imagining it.



edit....
well my conparison pics won't upload. Anyway I think there is an obvious similarity with the invisable A-pillar, the thick C-pillar, and the roof widening as it slopes back. And I just realized you where talking about the g35 since it has 7-spokes. my bad! :D

I agree with Ike. The looks of the GTR have never been real "pretty"... like the STi and Evo. It was about performance first... function before form... based off the Skyline chassis. Don't like the rebadged Skyline GT350/G35c look? I can see you guys know little about the the Skyline line. Take a look at the last two generations of 4 door sedan and 2 door coupe Skylines in comparison to the GTR models. The GTR just looks like a Skyline coupe with a bodykit. So what's wrong with this new one? It looks even LESS like a Skyline coupe with a bodykit and more like a car that just shares the same platform (like the Volvo S40 and Mazda3).

Whether or not you like the styling... honestly it looks like a case of tuff luck. Not just because you have no part in the decision making process, but also because some of the same styling cues seem to be a current industry trend. The front, for example, we see if on VW, Audi, Evo X, Galant...

Personally I don't think it looks bad... as someone mentioned it'll probably look mean in black... and it'll probably perform like a champ. The LF-A? If you hate electronic nannying, DSG/SMG transmissions and such then it's going to suck. Besides that... I dunno... Toyota can just never seem to make a car that I like and/or respect... both from a styling perspective and a performance perspective. We'll see what happens, but I have my doubts. Of course Honda will answer with a new NSX... which will probably get it's ass handed to it like in the past as well, but handle very good and be over-priced. Interesting times... makes me wish I had a lot more income.


I want to disagree with you wholeheartedly about the NSX. That is one of the nicest cars I have ever had the pleasure to watch around a track. Sorry to take the thread off topic, but what was so much faster than it 16-17 years ago? Nothing. It spanked Lamborghinis and Ferraris around just about any track, but was a tad slower in the straights. Around Nurburgring(sp?) the NSX-R is only about 13 seconds slower than the C6 ZO6(7:46-7 and just under 8 minutes for the Honda). I usually enjoy readin all of your posts, and this one was great too, I just disagree. :)

Hey... I did admit it handled very well and I can appreciate handling. When it first came out I thought it looked hot as hell. I still think it's a good looking car. BUT... when it came out at around $70k it was a good deal. Now... ouch. The world isn't all about straight line performance, but I sure as hell wouldn't be tracking my $70k-100k+ car... that lowers the "real world" price/performance I could get out of it.

Hey... I did admit it handled very well and I can appreciate handling. When it first came out I thought it looked hot as hell. I still think it's a good looking car. BUT... when it came out at around $70k it was a good deal. Now... ouch. The world isn't all about straight line performance, but I sure as hell wouldn't be tracking my $70k-100k+ car... that lowers the "real world" price/performance I could get out of it.
I sort of agree, I'd rather it have been kept at 60-70k but that didn't happen. I'd still track the car, that would have been why I bought it...to drive it! I love the way it looks even to this day. I guess to each their own. :) Now I need sleep, RX8club is distracting me from my studies :p

I want to disagree with you wholeheartedly about the NSX. That is one of the nicest cars I have ever had the pleasure to watch around a track. Sorry to take the thread off topic, but what was so much faster than it 16-17 years ago? Nothing. It spanked Lamborghinis and Ferraris around just about any track, but was a tad slower in the straights. Around Nurburgring(sp?) the NSX-R is only about 13 seconds slower than the C6 ZO6(7:46-7 and just under 8 minutes for the Honda). I usually enjoy readin all of your posts, and this one was great too, I just disagree. :)

Keep in mind that the previous STi spec C turns turned a sub 8 min. lap around Nurburgruing which is also about the same time as the C6 Vette and NSX-R. The NSX-R you use as an example is less than 5 years old and despite the specs Japan would like you to believe puts out 350+ hp. So you essentially get the same amount of performance for 1/2 to 1/3 the price with a STi Spec C or a C6 Vette. Also, that NSX-R is a stripped down, lightened, ridgid track version of the car, the Spec C and C6 Vette are more friendly and certainly make for good daily drivers. Numbers wise the NSX is hardly impressive, it never really has been.

All that aside the NSX is still a wonderful car, but it had its day, and that day was 10+ years ago. The following is a quote from C&D about 4 yeasr ago.

"And when you can possess more potential for less money than an NSX, Acura's sexy supersport, for all its sophistication, rings up as a tough sell. The numbers: a 2001 NSX, with the removable roof (standard for '02), carried a base price of $90,879. A 2001 Carrera C4 (all-wheel drive) was $74,156, a 2002 Viper GTS is $74,071, and a 2002 Corvette Z06 is $50,721.
We continue to love this car. But we think these modest updates on an aging (introduced in 1990), pricey exotic are similar to rearranging deck chairs on the Titanic."

Keep in mind that the previous STi spec C turns turned a sub 8 min. lap around Nurburgruing which is also about the same time as the C6 Vette and NSX-R. The NSX-R you use as an example is less than 5 years old and despite the specs Japan would like you to believe puts out 350+ hp. So you essentially get the same amount of performance for 1/2 to 1/3 the price with a STi Spec C or a C6 Vette. Also, that NSX-R is a stripped down, lightened, ridgid track version of the car, the Spec C and C6 Vette are more friendly and certainly make for good daily drivers. Numbers wise the NSX is hardly impressive, it never really has been.

All that aside the NSX is still a wonderful car, but it had its day, and that day was 10+ years ago. The following is a quote from C&D about 4 yeasr ago.

"And when you can possess more potential for less money than an NSX, Acura's sexy supersport, for all its sophistication, rings up as a tough sell. The numbers: a 2001 NSX, with the removable roof (standard for '02), carried a base price of $90,879. A 2001 Carrera C4 (all-wheel drive) was $74,156, a 2002 Viper GTS is $74,071, and a 2002 Corvette Z06 is $50,721.
We continue to love this car. But we think these modest updates on an aging (introduced in 1990), pricey exotic are similar to rearranging deck chairs on the Titanic."

Haha. I'm not trying to equate it to being incredibly fast in today's market, but it is still competitive. I think they should have done more to update it or just ended it's life earlier. I'm very excited for the new one and I expect that to be revolutionary as was the previous generation. Honda better get on that fast, I wanna see a nice prototype next year! :D

Honda says the next nsx will come out in 2009. I think that that is production. i dont know when the prototype will be out.

its going to be a NA V10 engine. With honda's engineering ability and a couple of years over BMW, i bet its going to be even better than the V10 in the bmw M5 and M6. :) shattering the 100hp/liter of displacement barrier. All this translate into the next NSX likely being much more expensive than the GT-R.

No doubt! but it will have a v10 and all wheel drive, probably a new, more advanced SH-AWD. This will put it high in the exotic or in the lower supercar range. dam* good if you ask me

its going to be a NA V10 engine. With honda's engineering ability and a couple of years over BMW, i bet its going to be even better than the V10 in the bmw M5 and M6. :) shattering the 100hp/liter of displacement barrier. All this translate into the next NSX likely being much more expensive than the GT-R. Well, the current NSX is "more" expensive than the estimated GT-R price range. I figure this one will be much more expensive, but it better be worth the damn money, unlike the current one. I also prefer RWD for the next NSX rather than AWD. I think I can say we will no longer see any RWD cars from Honda in the future. Not that they had much to begin with.

Back on topic...

The GTR Proto looked nice. Saw it at the motorshow today...

Thanks for posting the pics, it does look nice on the display floor.

But something about the roof line really bugs me and I'd prefer body colored A pillars. I think the front end still needs a lot more work. If they clean it up and refine its looks a bit more, it might be tempting. But as it stands with its current styling, I'm just not digging it. I'd still prefer a Porsche 911 or a Z06 Vette for the GT-R's expected price tag.

i dont like the roof and a-piller other than that its nice.