http://www.rx7club.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&postid=1989952#post1989952

Look at whats going on with the reviews

Link to msn : http://autos.msn.com/userreviews/reviewlist.aspx?idmodel=10703&search=MostRecent&num=50&trim=96948&lang=All

Everyone go and post a complaint about ever review on there!

Chas

Who cares what the losers and posers post. We know the truth which is the only thing that matters....

Anyone that puts their faith into an open forum like MSN or Yahoo shall be sold something unreliable.

People need to stick to reliable sources of information.

We've already covered it in another thread. MSN is aware of the spammers. Don't bother.
:)

Just wanted to post the e-mail I sent to MSN. You may be surprised just how stupid some people are when they try to trash a car:

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Hi, I think there's something seriously wrong with your auto reviews for this car (see http://autos.msn.com/userreviews/reviewlist.aspx?idmodel=10703&search=MostRecent&num=50&trim=96948&lang=All). Some examples:

Review #373760 is clearly about a different car. They're referring to a car that was out two years ago (the RX-8 first came out about two weeks ago), and to a model number that does not exist for the RX-8. But it does for the Audi TT, I believe.

Review #372764 also seems to be for a different car - they refer to a long throw shifter instead of short throw, and say it has no ABS even though this car does, and refer to poor safety ratings when there are none yet - it hasn't been tested outside the company.

Review #372836 refers to owning the car more than two months - as I stated, it's only been owned by any person in the US for about two weeks. She refers to a timing chain when the car has a belt.

Review #372967 discusses the price of the car higher than you can get it (max is around 32k, she refers to spending 34k+).

Review #372972 appears to be a duplicate of #372764. Wording is close to identical, if not exactly identical.

Review #373065 discusses 17" wheels, the car only has 16" or 18".

Review #374137 refers to having two recalls after owning it more than two months. Once again the car has only been out two weeks, and there have been no recalls (check with Mazda to confirm)

Review #373477 is another duplicate of #372764.

Review #373471 is a near duplicate of #372836. She also refers to living in "Great Plains, USA" which, last I checked, is nowhere near the Pacific Ocean for her to be driving down PCH.

Review #373467 refers to a "one-star crash rating by INMH" despite the fact that, as I stated above, it hasn't been rated yet. Also refers to stereos on '03 models, despite there not being an 03.

Review #373462 refers to a safety recall when, as stated previously, there have never been any.

Review #373068 refers to getting 0% financing, but this car is excluded from that promotion.

I can happily review more if needed, but I think you get my point.

These are only some of the reviews that have definite factual errors, there are many more that I believe are equally false but are given as opinions, so I don't want to discount opinion - for instance, a few that comment on bad steering and brakes, despite the fact that every professional review gives those two areas max (or near max) scores. If a reviewer comments on "Unsteady handling and vague steering feel. Too much brake fade and unstable stoppage." when professional car magazines comment on how it seems to anticipate turns and stops on a dime, I suspect that review.

I must also comment that many of these comments were entered within 1-2 days of when the website was cleared because of the large numbers of fraudulent comments (people entering reviews before the car was released). And many of them are the same posts that were deleted, just with a different date.

It reaches the point where there is no longer a question of IF there is a conspiracy, merely whether it is a conspiracy of users or MSN Auto itself. This is substantiated by the fact that even the above referenced reviews that do list good qualities of the car (such as styling) still give them almost entirely 1's for the numerical score, leading to the belief that it is a concerted effort to lower the rating of the car.

carcomm@microsoft.com

Sent 7/22/03

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Dear Admin,

THANK YOU for posting the "Admin: **** PLEASE DISREGARD PREVIOUS REVIEWS ****"

I, and the people who are in the know and are watching this review, are grateful for your action. Please also REMOVE those false reviews. Many people will not study all of the reviews; they will just look at the averages, which are still falsely skewed. I am sure you can understand that.

If you can not selectively remove them, then just remove all of it and start it over again, or just do not have one for the RX-8. Mazda has worked like crazy in developing this car to the perfection that it has achieved. They certainly do not deserve this.

Please do not take this the wrong way. This is not anyone’s fault but the liars that ruined this review. I hope that you can correct it to where it should be, and perhaps keep monitoring it, because I am sure the liars are not finished with their fun yet.

THANK YOU!!!
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