3-pete! 3-pete! But man that last game was a little scary... things were looking pretty bleak till the second half.

3 peat? ummm LSU won the championship 2 years ago. and last years was debatable as well with other unbeaten teams.

USC was ranked #1 in BOTH human polls... the BCS computers however ranked USC as #3 and therefore they did not get to play in the BCS championship game. However at the end of the season USC came out on top of Michigan in the Rose Bowl to secure their AP championship. By contract the coaches are obligated to vote for whoever wins the BCS champ game, but even so 3 coaches broke this contract and still voted USC #1. So in the end there was a split national championship, just like 1997, with LSU taking the Coaches and USC taking the AP.

Last year was debatable? WTF? USC went #1 in both polls wire to wire, no debate there. Oklahoma got completely THRASHED by USC in the championship game, and Auburn barely won their game against VT. LSU lost to Iowa also. Do you honestly think either team would have faired much better against the Trojans last year? If you do then i'm not sure we're watching the same sport.

The question is how much longer can their defense hold up with all the injuries? Also, if they continue to not show up until the second half of EVERY game, they will not be champs come January.

If they manage to play the full 4 quaters instead of only 2 then they will be unstoppable. The only team that can beat the Trojans are the Trojans.

This is true, I'm hoping the previous two games were a wake-up call for the Trojans. Oregon and ASU are by no means pushover teams, and out of all the teams in the schedule I'd say Arizona was one of the teams that had a legitimate chance of giving USC a run for their money (the other two I think being ND and Cal).

As for the game being four quarters, I think that's exactly what USC proved in these past two games. Heading into halftime with a major deficit, they were able to bring their A game in the third and fourth quarters to come out on top.

I hope to meet you in the Rose Bowl in a few months :D

That would be one Hell of a game! Texas in the Rose Bowl for the second straight season. Vince Young vs. Matt Leinart and Bush.

Catspaw: I know that NO game is over until the final whistle, but if USC does not play well ALL 4 quaters the deficit will be way too large. Take Texas for instance, if USC comes out on their asses during the first half, the deficit will be like 20-40 points. Not sure whether they will be able to recover from something like that.

I hope there isn't any BCS bullshit this year. I would hate to have 4 undefeated teams come championship week.

Hey, Brillo, do me a favor and shove a horn up Oklahoma's ass when you get a chance okay?

Most over-rated team ever!

In a bid to not curse anything, I will only say I'm looking forward to the game this weekend. I hope AP is healthy for the game, we have a present for him :D

I don't have any love for our neigbors to the north, and I would like nothing better for our boys to shove several things up their ass :D

NEWS FLASH!! NOTRE DAME will beat USC in South Bend in two weeks. Virginia Tech and Texas in the Championship game.vegas.

Go Hokies!

hokies? w00t :o

LSU in 2003 would have beat USC, Auburn would have have beat USC in 2004. the NCAA releases their strength of schedule every year and USC is never high on that list. let USC play Ten, LSU, Alabama, Auburn, Georgia, and Florida every year. that is 1/2 the conference that every year gets ranked and a bowl game.

but this should not be a PAC-10 VS SEC thing. the comparative strengths of these conferences is well known.

the true loser is us the fan because the correct teams were not choosen. it is a crime that all three of these teams have an "*" next to their championship claim. no other sport would vote their opinion for a winner, they make them prove it on the field. the conference championship does mean something, but no credible system exsists to determine inter-conference play.


USC was ranked #1 in BOTH human polls... the BCS computers however ranked USC as #3 and therefore they did not get to play in the BCS championship game. However at the end of the season USC came out on top of Michigan in the Rose Bowl to secure their AP championship. By contract the coaches are obligated to vote for whoever wins the BCS champ game, but even so 3 coaches broke this contract and still voted USC #1. So in the end there was a split national championship, just like 1997, with LSU taking the Coaches and USC taking the AP.

Last year was debatable? WTF? USC went #1 in both polls wire to wire, no debate there. Oklahoma got completely THRASHED by USC in the championship game, and Auburn barely won their game against VT. LSU lost to Iowa also. Do you honestly think either team would have faired much better against the Trojans last year? If you do then i'm not sure we're watching the same sport.

*hums the fight song*

That was quite possibly the best college football game I've ever seen. The haters can hate, the doubters can doubt, but this is what it means to be a true champion. To never doubt yourself, even for a second, that you are a champion. To be able to stare into the face of adversity on 4th and 9 and pull of a 60 yard audible; to throw yourself into the fray with only one goal in mind: victory.

Its sad that many people have to degrade this instant classic by saying things like the ref were paid off or USC cheated, or some bs... can't we all just enjoy what was one of the, if not THE, greatest football game in college history?

To all Notre Dame fans, players, and alumni: hats off to you. I have never felt so much respect for an opposing team before this saturday. On behalf of the Trojan family I'd like to thank you guys for conducting yourselves with class and hosting my team, and we can't wait to see you again in Los Angeles next year.

I don't know about them being the greatest ever...but they are very good. They're just the FSU/FU of the current times. To be so dominating has it's disadvantages though. One bad season, and the recruits go elsewhere quickly. Other than, what, 2-3 games per season, they're actually interesting to watch (for a non-fan), only because they might lose. I'll personally always root against them :) . My hope lies with UCLA.

go horns :D

LSU in 2003 would have beat USC, Auburn would have have beat USC in 2004. the NCAA releases their strength of schedule every year and USC is never high on that list. let USC play Ten, LSU, Alabama, Auburn, Georgia, and Florida every year. that is 1/2 the conference that every year gets ranked and a bowl game.

but this should not be a PAC-10 VS SEC thing. the comparative strengths of these conferences is well known.

the true loser is us the fan because the correct teams were not choosen. it is a crime that all three of these teams have an "*" next to their championship claim. no other sport would vote their opinion for a winner, they make them prove it on the field. the conference championship does mean something, but no credible system exsists to determine inter-conference play.

That is quite debatable. I don't think LSU would have beat USC in 02.' & USC was national champions in 02' as the AP voted them #1, making them co-national champions. Always has been that way always will be (that there is 2 elements of a national championship). In 03' Auburn was a good team, but USC was peaking at the end of the year & bashed OU's head in in the bowl game. The victory was far more impressive than Auburn's victory over VT (a tough team in it's own right). Until there is a playoff in college good teams are going to get screwed. There is no debate though that USC has been champions twice, and going for a 3rd.

I love my Hokies but...

1). They haven't really played anyone yet
2). Offense can be stagnant

I love my Hokies but...

1). They haven't really played anyone yet
2). Offense can be stagnant

Hell, I would say if they run the table in the ACC they should have a great shot at the Rose Bowl. they would have beaten Miami, and probably FSU in the ACC Championship game. Not to mention they throttled WVU, the probable Big East champ. UT has played OSU, I will give them kudos for that, but the Big 12 is very down this year. Outside of Texas Tech they might not get any other ranked teams this year. The Big 12 championship game will be a joke, as the big 12 north is just that bad. Not UT's fault, but the Big 12 is very down this year. Unless UT falls from #2 in the human polls though, no way VT is going to jump them. Blow out Miami & FSU & VT just might get some 1st place votes.

the title of the thread should read "USC is the shove", last I checked it is illegal for someone to push someone else into the end zone from the back, but hey, they won and it was a gutsy move so good for them. if you don't get caught it didn't happen right ? :D

the title of the thread should read "USC is the shove", last I checked it is illegal for someone to push someone else into the end zone from the back, but hey, they won and it was a gutsy move so good for them. if you don't get caught it didn't happen right ? :D

Haha, well to tell you the truth that I have never seen that called ever in either pros or college. Coach Weiss even said he would have done the same thing himself. Plus that rule does not apply when there is a pile up which there was clearly at the goal line. I believe the rule was initiated to keep teams from recruiting 88 lbs running backs and just having the linemen toss them into the endzone. ;p

Not to mention they throttled WVU, the probable Big East champ.

I wouldn't call that a throttling. 17 points? Louisville getting waxed by USF was a throttling. I wish the 'eers would've played to their full capabilities, but they are a young team who makes alot of mistakes (lots of penalties :mad: ). Give 'em 2 years :p. In my opinion, the biggest reason Tech, BC and Miami left the Big East was to avoid the high possibility of losing to lesser ranked or unranked teams that used to occur often. The Big East was a different world, full of rivalry's. On any given Saturday, any team had a fair chance of losing, no matter their ranking. Hopefully the new Big East will become the same. That's gooood football, imo. VT in the championship? They're not that good. :)