View Full Version : GTO v. STi (long)


Aratinga
09-12-2005, 12:33 AM
I know we're not supposed to post about kills, but... this doesn't involve an RX-8, and I was not driving. I hereby go on record as advising the b/f, who was driving, to NOT race the '05 STi...

We were in Sylvia, the '04 black GTO, coming home from Target at about 8PM. We were on Grand Avenue, a main thoroughfare with undulating hills and long sweeping curves between long stretches of straights. Speed limit is 45-55 MPH depending on where you are. Traffic lights are pretty far apart, with a few clumped close together where strip malls congregate.

As we headed home in very light traffic, we noticed an STi in a Tit-grey-like color on the right next to us. The kid driving it was checking out the GTO, and I knew what was about to happen. At that time we were both going about 45 mph and the kid dropped a gear and started to pull away. I grabbed John by the arm as he went to do the same and said, "Don't you dare!" He was, shall we say, less than happy with me.

But as we approach the next stoplight, which was red, there was the STi in the lane on our right -- waiting. No other cars ahead or behind us, just another stoplight one block up, followed by a long gently-uphill straight. I had to laugh at the scenario... two middle-aged baby boomers in a reincarnated RWD 60s American-V8 musclecar with a load of groceries in the trunk listening to Jimi Hendrix on XM, opposite a late teens/early 20s kid in a Japanese AWD turbo rallycar listening to loud hip-hop. No revs or even glances were exchanged, but we all know what had to happen when the light turned green.

The STi got the early lead of about one carlength-- I figured because he's a better launcher with AWD, but John claims he didn't launch the GTO hard because he was waiting to see what the kid would do. No smoking or squealing of tires from either car -- but needless to say, the race was on. The next stoplight turned green early so both cars were flat out as they started to climb the hill in second gear. John kept the GTO right on the STi driver's flank. I was just holding on to the Oh-SH*T handle for dear life, watching the STi next to me and not daring to look over to the speedo. When we hit third the GTO started to pull on the STi and really came into her own. We were nose to nose -- and then the road started to curve to the right.

I'm sure the STi driver thought John would back off in the curve; he don't know John. The GTO clung perfectly to the corner and continued to gain ground, even though we were taking the longer radius on the outside lane. At the top of the curve the road straightened and leveled out -- and then we could see a single car up ahead in the STi's lane. Game over.

It was a very well-matched contest, and I was quite impressed with the Impreza's ability to hold its own, up a hill no less, against a 350HP V-8. We both decelerated smoothly down and quietly joined a group of cars traveling at the speed limit further up the road. Never in my life has 50mph felt so SLOW. I imagine we must have hit about 120mph or better somewhere near the top of the hill.

At the next red light, we went our separate ways... GTO in the left-turn lane, STi turning right. John revved at him, and he squealed his tires around the corner. Now I'll have to check the Subie forums for a GTO kill post, and set the record straight.;)

Disclaimer: I do NOT condone this dangerous and irresponsible behavior. John will be appropriately punished for engaging in this illegal activity. Don't street race. My question is -- what am I supposed to do next time???

Aoshi Shinomori
09-12-2005, 12:37 AM
Ooooh I'm telling Aratinga! :p I would have figured the GTO to pull away a bit more than that, guess I was wrong. I think you forgot to mention that this was a closed course, right? John is also a professional driver :D

Aratinga
09-12-2005, 12:39 AM
Ooooh I'm telling Aratinga! :p I would have figured the GTO to pull away a bit more than that, guess I was wrong. I think you forgot to mention that this was a closed course, right? John is also a professional driver :D
I was an innocent bystanding passenger! Really! I did edit my post to make that more clear. I just want to know what I'm supposed to do next time it happens! :D

RX-GR8
09-12-2005, 01:10 AM
tinga maybe you should drive next time. ;)

Aratinga
09-12-2005, 01:26 AM
hehehe... John's getting his right shoulder operated on this Friday, which means no shifting gears for him for a while! I probably will be driving next time. I promise not to race anybody though. ;)

klegg
09-12-2005, 07:27 AM
I have not driven a gto, but I have driven and sti. It is scary fast, and handles like it is on rails.

124Spider
09-12-2005, 08:59 AM
Tit-grey-like colorMaybe this is what got John all hot and bothered. Heck, I've never seen one this color. ;)

Straight8
09-12-2005, 12:23 PM
Will John be cut off for a while?

guy321
09-12-2005, 12:35 PM
I saw a GTO drifting on TV at some event at soldier field.

Aratinga
09-12-2005, 12:41 PM
Will John be cut off for a while?No way... I'm not punishing myself too! :D

If he wasn't going to be disabled soon I'd probably make him install a new soft top on my old Miata or something like that, but with his right arm in a sling he's going to be rather useless for manual labor for a while. Anybody got any good ideas? Remember, the punishment must fit the crime and serve as an effective deterrent to future exhibitions of speed, but it can't be too severe.

bluesunlion
09-12-2005, 12:41 PM
Hee hee. I was thinking how much fun that road would be in something other than my craptacular taurus rental.
You guys get all the fun roads.

PS He's a boy. You probably couldn't make him not race regardless. :p :) :D

Aratinga
09-12-2005, 12:42 PM
I saw a GTO drifting on TV at some event at soldier field.
The current drift champion is Rhys Millen (Rod's kid) in a yellow GTO.

BlueEyes
09-12-2005, 12:52 PM
I tried to get Diabolical RX8 to get a GTO to replace his RX8 when he was asking for suggestions. He laughed and made fun of it. Said it can't handle among other things.

guy321
09-12-2005, 12:59 PM
Yeah, that's the dude I saw.. he smashed it to bits and pieces against the wall (most of them did)

The current drift champion is Rhys Millen (Rod's kid) in a yellow GTO.

phee
09-12-2005, 02:05 PM
What you do next time is have him let you out at the light, call me, and I'll drive up with all the proper tools for punishment. Or I could bring those up now.......

Oh, yeah, you said "must fit the crime". Rent an old VW bus, and make him drive it for a week. No possiblity for a speed demon there. Or have him put several coats of wax on your cars. He can do that one-handed, right? You're a teacher - have him write "I will not street race" a thousand times.

Matt RX8
09-12-2005, 02:13 PM
I was passed on the track by an STi yesterday. It was the only car that I had to waive by all day except for a supercharged M3 that I allowed to catch me a few times so we could play some tag because I was a little bored and wanted a mouse to chase.

Props to the STi.

klegg
09-12-2005, 02:20 PM
What you do next time is have him let you out at the light, call me, and I'll drive up with all the proper tools for punishment. Or I could bring those up now.......

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I think you are the only one here you really understands me... ;)

TheColonel
09-12-2005, 02:48 PM
I saw that yellow GTO at my local pontiac dealer.

I drove the 5.7L '04 GTO. It was pretty quick, though it definately won't turn like an STi or RX-8. Quick as it may be, my 400hp Z28 still runs quicker times than I've seen at the track out of the new 6.0L GTO's. I attribute part of that to the fact the F-bodies have a solid rear axle which is much better for drag racing.

KYLiquid
09-12-2005, 02:53 PM
should be fairly close with the edge to the GTO, 350hp vs 300hp (if both cars are stock) they both have about the same weight, but the STI will have more drivetrain loss, he was a fool for messing around from a roll.....from a dig at a light is more his territory. Im suprised though that it wasnt till 3rd that the GTO started to pull on him, unless you were giving it just enough throtle to keep along side and then pass. Cause in straight line, flat out the GTO should move past the STI at a descent clip

as far as the STI suprising you going up hill

"Mountain climbing is a turbo sport" - BestMotoring

Ike
09-12-2005, 03:01 PM
should be fairly close with the edge to the GTO, 350hp vs 300hp (if both cars are stock) they both have about the same weight, but the STI will have more drivetrain loss, he was a fool for messing around from a roll.....from a dig at a light is more his territory. Im suprised though that it wasnt till 3rd that the GTO started to pull on him, unless you were giving it just enough throtle to keep along side and then pass. Cause in straight line, flat out the GTO should move past the STI at a descent clip

as far as the STI suprising you going up hill

"Mountain climbing is a turbo sport" - BestMotoring

It would be a drivers race for a while til you edged closer to 100mph where the GTO should walk the STi.

Cattywampus
09-12-2005, 04:24 PM
I took a GTO with my rc car the other night. It was an 03 and he is my friend. My rc car is a nitro gas powered viper which does 0-63.7 in 3.5 sec. He was impressed. But we all knew what would happen. Of course it was a closed Wal-Mart parking lot. :D