Hi people, I am selling my 04 black rx8 with full mazdaspeed bodykit, i like the car but just not enough power for me and it's kind small. I am not sure which car i should get next, an 04 bmw m3, an evo 8, the new corvette, or the wrx sti. which car u guys think is the best car over all.

Here is few picture of my car without the sideskirt and rearbumper

What are you lokking for? Power, Looks, Handling. I would say the new sti because you will still be one of many and have a bad ass mobile for a good price. Me im gonna hold on to my beloved 8 for a little longer to see whats next. If a little more performance does not come quick sti is my next car. I hate to do it im a third generation roto head but mazda has to ante up

well for all the money you'd spend trading you'd be a fool not to get a turbo and the new interceptor ems unit from Mazsport

then you'll be pushing 300rwhp (g-d knows how high at the crank) and you'll still have a far better looking and handling car

get the m3
thats my taste

well for all the money you'd spend trading you'd be a fool not to get a turbo and the new interceptor ems unit from Mazsport

then you'll be pushing 300rwhp (g-d knows how high at the crank) and you'll still have a far better looking and handling car

If that is practical and easy to reach while maintaining daily-driver status then for sure. However, how hard is it to do this?

If it was me and I had the money, the M3 would be my choice. It has the best overall car experience and quality. Not to mention 333hp stock.....not bad.

I don't know going from the RX8 to an STI is going to be quite a step down in the looks department (beautiful to hideous).

And your list of cars shows that you don't know what you really want. If you can afford a new vette then why a used m3? Not getting that? If you can go with a two seater then what about a 350Z or S2000?

wait the rx8 is to small, so your looking at the new corvette? and even the M3 will be harder to use the back seats.

The evo/sti I can understand, those are 4 door.

I do understand the power thing.

Well--your reasoning and price choices don't make sense to me--but I'd say M3. They are expensive to get power out of though--if you are looking for ease to mod go with one of those ugly STis or Evos. Vette--but the RX8 is too small? You can't go wrong with the Vette--if you don't need the space.

I go for the M3. To me the STi and the EVO 8 are not worth the $30K+. They feel empty to me. Corvette is fun but small. M3 has everything, power and luxury. Have you consider a VW R32?

He's complaining about not enough power--the R32 is about as fast as an RX8. Its easier to get power out of though.

Your RX8 is so sexy. I wouldn't trade it for any of those cars.... except maybe the new C6 (and that's even smaller inside for your requirements).

I test drove a evo last night just for the fun of it. And damn did it have power but that was it, didnt feel like it handled as well, ugly, and cheaper feeling on the inside. I just wasnt all impressed i was worried that i wouldnt enjoy returning to my 8 after that and that was defently not the case.

how much are you selling it for?

oh...and get the subaru. ;)

out of those, the only one i'd go for from an rx-8 is an M3. The looks (outside and inside) of the evo/STi don't do it for me, and the ride is very harsh. I wouldn't get a vette because of the 2-seaterishness of it (and insurance). Supposedly they're debuting a new supra in the tokyo auto show in Oct. Maybe you wanna wait and see what the news is there

why did you buy the 8 in the first place?

You'll take a hit if you trade/sell your car now. For the same money just get a turbo kit with the interceptor-x. You will be at the least 250whp which should translate to about 300hp at the crank, and this should be just on a low boost, imagine what you can achieve with some serious tuning and higher boost...

BTW, people keep forgetting that this car is so light, you can give 50hp to the competition and it will still beat them. Pure number is not everything...

My next car!

2001-2002 BMW M Roadster or Coupe
0-60mph 4.5s
1/4 mile 13.1s

You went and put all that money into the looks and now you're mad when the neon dusts you on the freeway. I understand. I'd put some money into the engine then go from all show, no go to show and go.

i'd get the STi or m3. M3 if you want more of the civilized look, and the STi if you want to mod your car and feel young.

p.s. what kind of brakes are those?

Well, big range of vehicles there - but for overall power, looks, and handling go with the new Corvette.

Just so you know...a new '05 Corvette, with a good range of options, 100% financed would be about $950/mo - with a 6 year loan. :eek:

Well i own a 05 evo 8 gsr and i love this car.I test drove the 350z,s2000,rx8 and the sti before i made my decision.

Out of all those cars i drove two stood out for me,the evo and the rx8,two completely different cars.In the handling dept i cant tell you which one was better they both drive like a dream the rx8 i have to admit was a lot comfortable and you cant beat that interior.
The reason i chose the evo was.....pure exhilaration,take it for a test drive keep it over 3000rpm take a bunch of sharp corners and tell me you dont feel one with the car,it will make you feel like a professional driver.

What im trying to say is test drive all the cars you are considering and you will know which one belongs in your driveway.

BTW guys if i had the means to own a second car i would love to see a velocity red rx8 (gt package) parked right next to my evo.


05 GSR turbo back exhaust/mbc/turbo timer....coming soon cams/fuel pump/intake/ic piping/bov/flash.

Get the new C6, test drove one the other day. all i could say is , wow

you said that the 8 was too small for you, but two of the cars mentioned above are smaller than the 8. If you want one of the cars mentioned above then id choose the M3 but I hope you dont mind me bringing up the Audi S4, it has a 4.2 liter V8 with 340 hp, it goes from 0 to 60 in 5.3 seconds and comfortably sits 5. It has Audis famous Quattro so its great in turns and rain/snow. But if you have even more money get the Audi RS4 (420 hp, bi-turbo v8, 317lbs torque) :D

check out this review M3 vs S4 (http://www.yoyo.org/~andy/private/TopgearM3.wmv) done by Top Gear

Uhhh, kind of a wide range of cars with varying prices and styles wouldn't cha say? And which of the cars you picked isn't small? Sumpin don't add up here.

Anyway, for schitz and giggles I'll say a C6 would be my choice.

thanx for all ur guys opinions. Well rx8 wasn't the car i wanted, it was my 16th birthday gift from my parents, it was suprise one. The car i asked them for are the M3 and rx7 but they said those car are too much power for me and ignored it lol. Now they decided i can sell my car and finanace another car. I just turn 17 and i really want a M3 (used one). There is just so many problem happen with my 8, I love the rx8 overall but i just dissapointed about the power, the car looks great. I am trying to sell my car for $32,000, do u guys think it's a reasonable price? i got all my stock parts too.

Those are the stuff i done to my car and price:

Tein Flex coilover system $1,300
EDFC controler $300
PWR Radiator $480
SR motorsport pulley blue 4 piece $419
Mazdaspeed Side Mirror $580
Hyper Voltage system $180
Hyper ground wire (blue) $120
Carbon Fiber Eyelids $89
Carbon Fiber B-pillers with emblems $89
Carbon Fiber dask Kit $250
Seibon Carbon Fiber OEM hood $600
Mazdaspeed Side skirts $720
Mazdaspeed Rear Under spoiler $510
Mazdaspeed Front bumper $1,290
B&B exhaust system $690
K&N air filter (Carbon Fiber) $210
Clear side corner $70
Rotora front big brake kit $2700
Rotora rear rotor $240
RE Carbon Fiber rear wing $720
19' inch Enkei wheel (custom glazed black with chrome lip) $2,400
BFGOODRICH Auto cross tire (scorpion) $2,000
Mazdaspeed Carbon Fiber Front strut bar $380
Mazdaspeed Carbon fiber Inner Handle Bezel $90
Mazdaspeed Carbon fiber door switch panel $72
Richard Paul Short shifter system $320

you my friend have a lot of money haha... well for a 17 yr old
wat are u doing with ur parts? selling it with ur car? or parting it out? wanna sell some things to me? ;)

If you can wing the payments on an M3 or Vette got for it dude! If you want more room then the STi and Evo will give you that plus improved power and handling. My advice is to wait for the Evo IX to get here before making a decision. It should start hitting dealerships in September or October. The new Evo will have variable valve timing (MIVEC) and consequently improved mid and highend power. It would be worth the wait to atleast check out IMO. Good luck.

new C6 Vette, M3, Evo, Sti I like them in this order. if its a C5 vette, then definetly go M3.

and I thought I was spoiled....

Mmmmm m3...

I would get a m3, better power and better mpg (hehe had to say it). The 8 has better curves but the m3 offers a mature/sophisticated look that I think the 8 lacks.

Hate to say it I've been toying the idea about getting a m3 myself (used of course) ;). but honestly you spent a bit of cash on your car already, if power is all that it lacks surely dumping another 5-6k would get u to m3 territory in power if not more. I would really sleep on this. If the looks of the car out grown u or vice versa that's different money can't solve that but power it can.

Mmmmm m3...

I would get a m3, better power and better mpg (hehe had to say it). The 8 has better curves but the m3 offers a mature/sophisticated look that I think the 8 lacks.

Hate to say it I've been toying the idea about getting a m3 myself (used of course) ;) but honestly you spent a bit of cash on your car already, if power is all that it lacks surely dumping another 5-6k would get u to m3 territory in power if not more. I would really sleep on this. If the looks of the car out grown u or vice versa that's different money can't solve that but power it can.

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Well--your insurance will skyrocket with you being 17 and getting into one of those other cars. IMO the M3 and C6 are too much car for a 17 yr old--not from a performance standpoint but from an age standpoint. Where do you go from an M3 and C6 to once your on your on just starting out and you don't have anybody to buy the car for you? I had an FD at 16 (which was about 1998) but it was a 93. I don't know man--I'd go ahead and turbocharge that 8 you have and just sit tight on it for a couple of more years. As far as you selling it for $32,000---no chance. Try $22,000.

Well--your insurance will skyrocket with you being 17 and getting into one of those other cars. IMO the M3 and C6 are too much car for a 17 yr old--not from a performance standpoint but from an age standpoint. Where do you go from an M3 and C6 to once your on your on just starting out and you don't have anybody to buy the car for you? I had an FD at 16 (which was about 1998) but it was a 93. I don't know man--I'd go ahead and turbocharge that 8 you have and just sit tight on it for a couple of more years. As far as you selling it for $32,000---no chance. Try $22,000.

i dont think he really cares about how high his insurance is, since mommy and daddy will just pay his way, and already are humoring which next rocket to buy their son. :rolleyes:

I'd sell the car, and buy a beater civic...drive that for a few years, spending money only to repair it.

Then pick out a car you want to buy. You'll learn to appreciate things alot more :). Plus you can turn the beater civic into a track car when you get its replacement. (Make sure to get one of the doublewishbone hatchbacks...mmmm)

This way you'll...

Save money.
Save money.
Save money on insurance.

and

Save insanity when some kid dings the hell outta your car when you take it to college. And don't act like they won't...THEY WILL. They always do...even if you park a mile away from class and walk there...some kid will ding your door, or throw beer at it, or god forbid puke all over the side. If it happens to your 3k beater civic, you'll laugh. If it happens to a 50k BMW M3 CSL, you'll kill someone.

hate hate hate .. wait for the new m3 .. although i think i remember you posting that you crashed that rx8 with all it's mods already

I'd take the new Vette or the M3. Forget about the other two!

Buy a civic EG drop in a JDM K20 TYPE-R and call it a day. Will easily blow the doors off the sti and evo M3 and will give a LS1 a good run for its money...and yes i still hate hondas

All that money spent on show and looks but not on power??? What is wrong with you??? For the money you spent on your coilovers, tires and wheels you could be the one smoking evos, M3s and stis right now.

Since you're only 17, go but yourself a civic and learn...

i think this thread needs to be closed before the flaming really starts lol.
btw my surprise car was 96 chevy ext truck w/ 196,000 miles and i was glad to get it. two people from two different worlds i guess

not to mention that if I see some kid in an m3 or vette, I would automatically assume that it's daddy's car. Nobody will believe that you bought it with your own $$$$.

BTW good luck with that hard decision of yours.....maybe one day you'll do something good with that trust fund of yours.

Some of you guys are jealous a-holes. The guy never said anything condescending to any of you, even though he could have. If you can't answer his question or contribute to the thread browse on. He didn't come here to get his balls busted.

Some of you guys are jealous a-holes. The guy never said anything condescending to any of you, even though he could have. If you can't answer his question or contribute to the thread browse on. He didn't come here to get his balls busted.
It's hard not to. It's just natural to be really jealous. I mean when I turned 16 I got to drive this 10 year old Volvo (literally a tank) that my uncle didn't want anymore so he gave it to us. The air conditioner didn't work and the engine would frequently read "H". I remember it being like 90 degrees one day and having to drive with the windows down and the heater pumping (to try to cool the engine). Not only would I have killed to have a car as nice as an RX-8 when I was 16, but being able to get rid of it to get an even MORE expensive car (after dropping thousands into it) is just like "wow". And I don't mean World of Warcraft!

But anyways for the question....

be nice to your parents and just get an STi or Evo. You'll save them almost 20,000. You'll have a car around as fast, but much more agile. Sure it's kinda ugly and ghetto but hey, you're young, you don't need to be a BMW snob yet. :) I'd get the STi though since it looks better (the '06 ones at least) and from what I hear is nicer for daily driving (I've only driven an STi, no Evo).

thanx for all ur guys reply. Well i am still going to sell the 8 for over $30000 and if i can't sell it that price then i'll probably keep the car, make it a nice show car and fast car too. If there is a fucing nice turbo out then i probably get it but all i read from this forum are the problem with the current turbos. I don't know how long i can wait for a turbo that actually works good, give nice power.

BTW i know i am spoiled but it runs through the family, my 21 year old brother got his mercade E55 amg for his 21 birthday. well my dad drive a porsche gt2 and mom drives a mercade SL500. I probably ask them for a M3 for my 21 birthday.

thanx for all ur guys reply. Well i am still going to sell the 8 for over $30000 and if i can't sell it that price then i'll probably keep the car, make it a nice show car and fast car too. If there is a fucing nice turbo out then i probably get it but all i read from this forum are the problem with the current turbos. I don't know how long i can wait for a turbo that actually works good, give nice power.

BTW i know i am spoiled but it runs through the family, my 21 year old brother got his mercade E55 amg for his 21 birthday. well my dad drive a porsche gt2 and mom drives a mercade SL500. I probably ask them for a M3 for my 21 birthday.

Good luck I can buy a brand new one for 30K. The resale isn't great on RX8's and modding for the most part does not add much in the way of value to the car

BTW i know i am spoiled but it runs through the family, my 21 year old brother got his mercade E55 amg for his 21 birthday. well my dad drive a porsche gt2 and mom drives a mercade SL500. I probably ask them for a M3 for my 21 birthday.

why wait? not for nothing but the m3 isn't that expensive. It's a 3 series. If you want it now then what does it matter how much u get for your 8. u da man!

Some of you guys are jealous a-holes. The guy never said anything condescending to any of you, even though he could have. If you can't answer his question or contribute to the thread browse on. He didn't come here to get his balls busted.

Actually, I for one am not jealous one bit. My parents are pretty well off aswell and they taught me at a young age that money doesn't grow on trees. I earned everything I have and wouldn't want it any other way. I'd be embarassed to drive a car that my daddy and mommy bought me.

thanx for all ur guys reply. Well i am still going to sell the 8 for over $30000 and if i can't sell it that price then i'll probably keep the car, make it a nice show car and fast car too. If there is a fucing nice turbo out then i probably get it but all i read from this forum are the problem with the current turbos. I don't know how long i can wait for a turbo that actually works good, give nice power.

BTW i know i am spoiled but it runs through the family, my 21 year old brother got his mercade E55 amg for his 21 birthday. well my dad drive a porsche gt2 and mom drives a mercade SL500. I probably ask them for a M3 for my 21 birthday.

It's not your fault that you're spoiled(parents :) )! I think you should just keep the car if you can t sell it at the price you want & like you said wait till 21 for you M3 as a gift.Having a M3 & Rx-8 will be sweet. Good luck on whatever you decide even though you dont need it :D . I totally agreed with what Steiner said even though most of you probably disagree wih it. Let's grow up & be a little more mature. STOP HATING on people who are more fortunate than us & have a possitive attitude. I've been poor all my life but I do not need to be jealous or hate on someone to make me feel better. Having a possitive attitude helps.

I know about 3 or 4 people who have m3s and are all 18 and younger. I would assume the average age of an m3 owner in socal is under the age of 30 IMO. everyone and their high school buddies has an M3 in orange county :/

but yah i still consider it an expensive car being $50k +

I think the problem is that we all live in different worlds. We were all raised differently and all have different beliefs. There is no point in skewering this kid alive because his parents are doing him a dis-service. This is just another example of a person who will be spoon fed the rest of their life. If they are only going to get richer and this is all they know, then what does it matter? Personally I know people who are even worse then this case. I thank my Dad everyday for my car and love it to peices. What more could a kid want/need then an RX-8? The only downside is that if I am not awake by noon on the weekends my Dad is off hot-roding somewhere.

My first car will be the nicest car I ever own...because, well...cops aren't exactly the richest people in the world.

I wonder what his parents do for a living....if he even knows...

If you want ugly fast, get the EVO RS/IX/MR. There is a ton of dedicated aftermarket support for the Mitsu. If I were going to give up my RX-8, I'd get that. Sorry to see you want to part ways with your car. :(

id get the M3.. its got power luxury good looks.. handling is unbelievable, comparable to the 8, if not better....no body roll (something bugs the crap out of me about the 8)

id trade my 8 without a thought if i could afford it...


you cold turbo the 8.. but then it doesnt become the most friendly daily driver. (gas!!!)
on the otherhand.. the m3 can cruise around town in luxury pampering you with its awesome harmon kardon system...without molesting your wallet (gas!) and be a powerhouse when put an intake exhaust and line it up on the track next to any car...
:)

sti evo are ugly and only great if you use them for what they are made for...

corvette is great.. if you want a "true affordable sports car".. but you might as buy a beater corolla or civic for the bigger space you require..

id get the M3.. its got power luxury good looks.. handling is unbelievable, comparable to the 8, if not better....no body roll (something bugs the crap out of me about the 8)

id trade my 8 without a thought if i could afford it...


you cold turbo the 8.. but then it doesnt become the most friendly daily driver. (gas!!!)
on the otherhand.. the m3 can cruise around town in luxury pampering you with its awesome harmon kardon system...without molesting your wallet (gas!) and be a powerhouse when put an intake exhaust and line it up on the track next to any car...
:)

sti evo are ugly and only great if you use them for what they are made for...

corvette is great.. if you want a "true affordable sports car".. but you might as buy a beater corolla or civic for the bigger space you require..

Why are you comparing a 50K (new one is probably more) to a 30K car. M3's are ugly as shit. The performance is nice, but I'd probably go with one of the Mercedes AMG models. A lot nicer looking cars.

That 8 is Sick...dont get the STI its a poor mans race car..go with the vette or M3 If you can afford it id go with the New z06 thats coming out

...dont get the STI its a poor mans race car...
I'm not sure if that should be taken as a compliment or an insult by an STi owner.:confused:

Jeez just cause his parents are very very very well off doesn't give everyone the right to bash him. If you were all in his shoes you certainly would not turn down the offer, so STFU! If you are able to sell your car for what you want, you should get the M3, sounds like it would be more to your liking with room, power, and you wouldnt lose the comfort like you would with an EVO or STI, however, you are just a kid (no offense) so you may like the look of a ricer over the 8 or M3, and they are certainly fast. If BMW doesnt screw up the looks of the next gen M3 (like they have with all there other cars excep the new 3 series) than I would look at that when you turn 21. Good luck with your choice.

That 8 is Sick...dont get the STI its a poor mans race car..go with the vette or M3 If you can afford it id go with the New z06 thats coming out

~evo/sti poor mans race car? they cost more than the rx8. if thats the case then whats the rx8? the poor mans slow family sedan, or poor mans wanna be lotus? :confused:

~evo/sti poor mans race car? they cost more than the rx8. if thats the case then whats the rx8? the poor mans slow family sedan, or poor mans wanna be lotus? :confused:
Maybe the RX-8 could be considered the rich man's Yugo? :p

I had 2 E46M3s and to be honest w/ you, it doesn't handle as good as the 8 in stock form. Yet it has more body roll too, but it's more stable on high speed turns unlike the 8. And I'd say the Harmon Kardon system sucks (known for all E46s) compare with the Bose system on the 8. Trust me on this one, I know.

But again, it's more luxury then the 8 of course. And yet, it has a tad better gas milage.

My coworker got a STi and it's somehwhat faster then my M3. But with some mods, it smokes the M3 in no time.

id get the M3.. its got power luxury good looks.. handling is unbelievable, comparable to the 8, if not better....no body roll (something bugs the crap out of me about the 8)

id trade my 8 without a thought if i could afford it...


you cold turbo the 8.. but then it doesnt become the most friendly daily driver. (gas!!!)
on the otherhand.. the m3 can cruise around town in luxury pampering you with its awesome harmon kardon system...without molesting your wallet (gas!) and be a powerhouse when put an intake exhaust and line it up on the track next to any car...
:)

sti evo are ugly and only great if you use them for what they are made for...

corvette is great.. if you want a "true affordable sports car".. but you might as buy a beater corolla or civic for the bigger space you require..

Honestly, I don't think you need to spend $50K+ to get $50K+ amount of happiness. All material things- be it cars, computers, clothes, golf clubs or whatever- always start off giving you a big rush when you first get them. And, then the excitement gradually evens out with time. But, whether this creates "unhappiness" depends on how you look at things and how mature you are.

Objectively, if you're someone that gets bored with your car pretty fast, then maybe leasing is a better idea- 'cuz u get to drive something new every couple of years- at least until you find a car that you really can fall in love with.

There is always going to be someone out there with something newer, faster, cooler, more expensive etc. So learning how to be happy and content with what you have is a good philosophy of life in general. Otherwise, right after you buy your M3 and see a Lambourghini roll by, you're going to cry.

Of course, if you have enough money to wipe your ass with $100 bills, then I guess it doesn't really matter. Though, I still think it's a good "life philosopy" to learn to be content and happy with what you have.

With that said, the premium Harmon Kardon system in my '99 323i sounds a LOT better than the Bose in my '05 8. And, I get compliments on the HK system all the time. So, I dunno how someone can say that it sucks. Having test driven my friends' M3's before, I do have to say BMW makes a really, nice sports car. But, for me personally, I think it's not worth the price tag. I get equal, if not more fun and "happiness" driving the 8- which not only costs far less, but also doesn't have the negative "M3 prick" stigma that goes w/ M3 owners in general.

>And I'd say the Harmon Kardon system sucks (known for all E46s) compare with the Bose >system on the 8. Trust me on this one, I know. [RL8]

thanx for all ur guys opinions. Well rx8 wasn't the car i wanted, it was my 16th birthday gift from my parents, it was suprise one. The car i asked them for are the M3 and rx7 but they said those car are too much power for me and ignored it lol. Now they decided i can sell my car and finanace another car. I just turn 17 and i really want a M3 (used one). There is just so many problem happen with my 8, I love the rx8 overall but i just dissapointed about the power, the car looks great. I am trying to sell my car for $32,000, do u guys think it's a reasonable price? i got all my stock parts too.

Those are the stuff i done to my car and price:

Tein Flex coilover system $1,300
EDFC controler $300
PWR Radiator $480
SR motorsport pulley blue 4 piece $419
Mazdaspeed Side Mirror $580
Hyper Voltage system $180
Hyper ground wire (blue) $120
Carbon Fiber Eyelids $89
Carbon Fiber B-pillers with emblems $89
Carbon Fiber dask Kit $250
Seibon Carbon Fiber OEM hood $600
Mazdaspeed Side skirts $720
Mazdaspeed Rear Under spoiler $510
Mazdaspeed Front bumper $1,290
B&B exhaust system $690
K&N air filter (Carbon Fiber) $210
Clear side corner $70
Rotora front big brake kit $2700
Rotora rear rotor $240
RE Carbon Fiber rear wing $720
19' inch Enkei wheel (custom glazed black with chrome lip) $2,400
BFGOODRICH Auto cross tire (scorpion) $2,000
Mazdaspeed Carbon Fiber Front strut bar $380
Mazdaspeed Carbon fiber Inner Handle Bezel $90
Mazdaspeed Carbon fiber door switch panel $72
Richard Paul Short shifter system $320


OMG! 16 and you are complaing about getting a rx8! Man do you have allot to learn in life.

C6 if you must trade. But personally I'd keep the 8, particularly after dumping that much money into it. Hell $5-6k more and you'll have plenty of power.

But what to do when the new car gets beaten on the highway...

There's always, ALWAYS, someone faster.

Nice looking car. You're dreaming if you think someone will pay over 30k for that. Well, I shouldn't say that, there is a sucker born every minute. I hope it works out for you.

Just to be clear, this car doesn't have enough power for drag racing for you?
Have you ever actually driven your car on a track? it might change your mind about it