Alright, a bit of a background...(I'm a little drunk so if there is an awkward sentance that's why_

There's a good friend of mine, I've KNOWN her for 6 years, been good friends the first 2 then I moved for a year and came back and we've been friends again for the past 1.5 years. I honestly love this girl, but we met up(The second time) because she was my neighbors g/f by coincidence and we became friends again. I then became to genuinly love this girl as a friend/sister maybe even more, I dunno, me and my neighbor became good friends so there was no way I would ever do anything with her. Well a couple months after we met up again she got pregnant by him(This was the first guy she had ever been with). Now the kid is almost a year old and I love him, he'll probly call me uncle one day, I spend so much time with him, he's the cutest little kid EVER. the three of them live with a roomate who's my BEST friend's cousin. and he has some issues and is dating some slut who even I'VE had an..encounter..with.

Well here's what happened. My friend has been known to do stupid shit when he's drunk. last night the girl(my friend) walked in on her fiances(The baby's-daddy) thier roomate(My best friend's cousin) with the slut I was talking about.

The father of the boy told her, he hadn't had sex in a while and was just watching them and masturbating. (Ya, that's why he was butt naked right?).

And I swear I love this girl and I'm ready to beta the hell out of both of them. She is starting to believe his lie about masterbating. (I haven't cried since I was in middle school but I'm getting pretty close. I love her and her kid.)

...Life sux...

wow. thats a lot of crazy stuff...sounds like a good episode of Jerry Springer.

I hope everything works out for you all

Piidb

Isnt this thread illegal since youre under age and you talk about alcohol? :p

dont waste your time trying to save people from themselves, its not worth the time or trouble.

Here's the thing.. NONE of that has anything to do with you.. You love her, sure.. You probably treat the kid like he's your own.. that's fine too. It's her life and all you can do is watch it and be there for her like a puppy to help her and hope she'll "come around".. SHe probably wont. You can try to get away from the situation, but you wont be able to because her memory will haunt you and "what might have been" will keep you up at night for years..

Finally, you can truely be a friend to her and distance yourself from these types of problems and let her make her own mistakes and learn from them herself. Be there for her in extreme times of need, babysit when ABSOLUTELY nessesary (not so she can get hammered or go out), etc.. but don't be her emotional dumping ground.

^fvck yeah, that emotional shit is stuff you dont need, no matter how much the girl means to you, she will use you until she gets tired of it, and pathetic guys are easy to get tired of.

No don't waste your time, just let me know where the slut lives and I will handle her for you :> Sluts boyfriend goes on his way, I have my way with slut, Baby Daddy gets booted because slut confesses and then you have your girl and her boy.

See how all this works out? I will put my body to use for a fellow rx'r

^ way to look out for a brother

BTW, i've been there.. only my "friend" is bi-polar.. makes things MUCH more interesting :)

lol, thats the best^

I am a figment of your imagination.

any guy that would pull that shit isn't worth the time of day...any girl that would believe that shit isn't worth it either.

Let them fuck their own lives up. Don't get involved.

that is hawt!

dont waste your time trying to save people from themselves, its not worth the time or trouble.

Worse advice…ever (in a comic book guy voice tone (The Simpsons))

He wrote this because he cares for her and the baby…and that’s noble of him. The problem with the world today is that people don’t give a %&# about anyone but themselves. People live by a selfish creed and then wonder why things keep getting worse and worse.

You know we don’t see eye to eye on a lot of stuff (to say the least) so what advice could I give you that you would actually listen to? I just wanted to let you know that your heart is in the right place and that caring for people other than yourself is a good quality and not naive, dumb, or a waste of time.

Worse advice…ever (in a comic book guy voice tone (The Simpsons))

He wrote this because he cares for her and the baby…and that’s noble of him. The problem with the world today is that people don’t give a %&# about anyone but themselves. People live by a selfish creed and then wonder why things keep getting worse and worse.

You know we don’t see eye to eye on a lot of stuff (to say the least) so what advice could I give you that you would actually listen to? I just wanted to let you know that your heart is in the right place and that caring for people other than yourself is a good quality and not naive, dumb, or a waste of time.

noble yes, but pratical? No. People who walk around with their eyes closed and wonder why they run into stuff dont deserve anyone to help them out. If she had intrest in him, she would have shown it. As far as being a free baby sitter because he cares about the boy, again noble, but why? You have no real ties to the child other than you are "friends" with the mom. Why set yourself up to go thru an emotional wringer?

tell her she deserves better than that, and he IS lying to her, no matter what excuse he came up with

Trying to save people from themselves and thier weaknesses is a noble act, but the fact remains, the weakness is there, she will always have an emotional attachment to this guy, regardless of whether he's worthless, because he's the father of her child. She will be inclined to believe what he tells her because she wants to and will justify it in her head. His weakness is that he needs sex, and if it's not where he usually finds it, he'll go elsewhere. He's done it once, he'll do it again.

Don't be the one she comes to cry to all the time if all she's gonna do is keep believing his bullshit. If she wants to be your friend, she'll treat YOU like a friend, and not take advantage of your good nature

Why set yourself up to go thru an emotional wringer?

I understand...he might get really hurt, but isn't that the game we all play? Love...as I like to say, is a trick GOD plays on us. It's the greatest thing there is...but it also leaves you open to being hurt like nothing else can hurt you.

Trust me...I understand your point, I protect my heart alot (mainly when I was single)...but we can't live in fear...allowing the possibility of being hurt from keeping us from doing good, helping others, or loving people.

I know he has to be very careful and you are all trying to protect him also, that too is noble, but these issues are normally alot more complicated than we think. This girl as made some bad decisions it seems...he should help her, but he also has to remember that alot of pain might be headed his way and she might even dislike/hate him for trying to help her.

I just don't want him to think that caring for others...or the value of others, is not "worth it". When we help/love each other...is when man is at his best, but be ready because getting hurt comes with the territory.

rx8wannahave you are a nice guy but your 'reborn' analogy and way of thinking is not applicable here...there is a child that should have been aborted...you've got a bunch of g-damned idiots running around having unprotected sex

THIS IS NOT THE TIME TO BE ROMANTIC OR TRY TO CHANGE THESE PEOPLE...IT WILL BE THE BIGGEST EMOTIONAL DRAIN OF HIS LIFE

VelociRedBeast, here is your prescription for this situation

GET THE FUCK OUT OF THERE>>>MOVE AWAY>>>FIND NEW FRIENDS>>>JUST DON"T FUCK UP YOUR LIFE LIKE THESE FUCKUPS

sorry to be blunt but in a few years you'll thank all of us for telling you to CUT AND RUN from this Jerry Springer set

jesus h. christ would have even said abort the child...DAMN!

It strikes me as ironic that someone who whines so much about his relatives being killed in the Holocaust is suggesting that other people's children should have been aborted.

It strikes me as ironic that someone who whines so much about his relatives being killed in the Holocaust is suggesting that other people's children should have been aborted.

not really a child until breach...right doc?


btw love can be an addition...he is addicted for all the wrong reasons

not really a child until breach...right doc?

Not according to you.

...there is a child that should have been aborted...jesus h. christ would have even said abort the child...DAMN!

Not according to you.

abort the fetus before being born...Speed playing the semantics game is stupid...u know what I was saying

what do u think about this situation though eh?
cut and run eh?

where is your conservative/TX gung ho mentality? :p

Hey, lets quit with the abortion talk, this thread is not about that.

what do u think about this situation though eh?
cut and run eh?
I couldn't agree more. Scary, huh? :p

Honestly, I wouldn't give up my friendship over that, but I wouldn't get overly involved either.

Hey, lets quit with the abortion talk, this thread is not about that.

agreed

I couldn't agree more. Scary, huh? :p

very scary :D

If you really love her, give her some tough love. Let her make her own decisions/mistakes. Live your own life in the meantime. If it was meant to be, you can be the bigger person and be there for her when the walls come crashing down and she's hit rock bottom. You can't save someone from themselves....

I think you need a friend. It's sad to see someone have to resort to a car forum to vent their personal tragedies and get advise.

Based on some of the moronic questions asked here, this would be the last place I would look for advise on anything outside of RX-8s :)

I think you need a friend. It's sad to see someone have to resort to a car forum to vent their personal tragedies and get advise.
Way to kick a guy when he's down. Man, that's cold...go back to show & shine.

Way to kick a guy when he's down. Man, that's cold...go back to show & shine.

:D

a good friend he meant...he very good friend ;) ;) a $500 dollar a night friend ;) :)

Don't get involved

moral support for her at most....lend her an ear when she needs it but no more than that

I think you need a friend. It's sad to see someone have to resort to a car forum to vent their personal tragedies and get advise.

Based on some of the moronic questions asked here, this would be the last place I would look for advise on anything outside of RX-8s :)
This is the lounge on a car forum. People come here to discuss everything other than the car, however they all still share the same common interest. IRL that's how you make friends. You find a person or group of people that like the same things you do. Friends talk about everything. People post their problems here because they feel comfortable asking for advice from their "friends."

It's a shame you feel that way because there are a lot of good people with a lot of good life experiences who give really good advice. Not to metion sometimes you need to hear something you may not want to in order to get your head out of your ass. ;)

Don't belittle the man because you don't feel the same way. He felt comfortable discussing this here. Leave him be. :rolleyes:

This is the lounge on a car forum. People come here to discuss everything other than the car, however they all still share the same common interest. IRL that's how you make friends. You find a person or group of people that like the same things you do. Friends talk about everything. People post their problems here because they feel comfortable asking for advice from their "friends."

It's a shame you feel that way because there are a lot of good people with a lot of good life experiences who give really good advice. Not to metion sometimes you need to hear something you may not want to in order to get your head out of your ass. ;)

Don't belittle the man because you don't feel the same way. He felt comfortable discussing this here. Leave him be. :rolleyes:

well said...infact Vredbeast can think of all of us as friends (don't go all sappy on me people! :p) I bet he feels that way and that is why he posted

As much as doc and I jokingly fight about everything in this thread there is one common goal...we do care...we don't want this guys life to go down the tubes for misguided love...he can do better

You seemed to have missed this part of the title of this thread:

Man, I'm ready to hurt somebody.(Mature audiences only)

You were obviously not invited to speak.

P.S. It's spelled advice.

I think you need a friend. It's sad to see someone have to resort to a car forum to vent their personal tragedies and get advise.

Based on some of the moronic questions asked here, this would be the last place I would look for advise on anything outside of RX-8s :)

Just posting to let you guys know I am reading and appreciate the advice. I'm gonna let what that guy said pass since he's new and ignorant.

I just wanted tos ay that I truly and honestly don't care if I end up with this girl or not, I just want her to be happy, which means a lot, it's not some childish thing where, "I WANT HER TO BE MINE!" type thing. But when I heard what happened from my best friend(His cousin called him *bragging*) I called her right away and she was crying, I could have killed both those idiots right then and there.

I'm going to work at 4pm to 10pm, try not to think about it and call her tonight to see what's going on now that's it's been a day to get things straight. If she believes his lie then I'm going to tell her I can't go over there anymore, I'll tell her I'll be here if she ever needs anything but I'm not gonna wait on her hand and foot. ANd just to let you guys know, this girl isn't a regular girl, she loves/loved(whatever) this guy, he was her first and she comes from a real nice rich christian(I know that means a lot to some of you,*ahem* rx8wannahave).

I'll be back online tonight, see if I can give you guys an update.

BTW to that guy with a big mouth. I have many friends, but this board is a cheap-way of having a psychiatrist. You can't talk to your RL friends like you can on here. telling my friends some of my friends(excluding my best friend) something like this is like posting something embarrassing that happened to you on rx7club.com..now that's scary.

Truemagellen...about what you said, you just don't know man...you just don't know...

Again, sorry your friend is going through this Velociredbeast and I hope she makes the right decision for her and her child. As long as you know your help can only go so far and make her aware of that, then don't allow it to bring you down "too" much.

One thing is for sure...she has fallen into a big mess to say the least.

{{{{{{{{{{hugs}}}}}}}}}}} to you beastie! Hang in there!!!

~from one of the "morons" :D

No don't waste your time, just let me know where the slut lives and I will handle her for you :> Sluts boyfriend goes on his way, I have my way with slut, Baby Daddy gets booted because slut confesses and then you have your girl and her boy.

See how all this works out? I will put my body to use for a fellow rx'r

Trust me, this girl is so nasty her initials should be S.T.D.

Trust me, this girl is so nasty her initials should be S.T.D.

Suck The Dick? ;)

lol, reminds me of "BoyZ in the Hood"

"Man your gonna get aids if you keep F*&^ing them Hos"
"You can't get aids from them s*&%ing your D&^^!"
*silence*
"Danny!! You can't get aids from *&^(*^ing %$*&, right?!"
"Damn it! I need to stop $%&ing with them hos!"

Sorry folks, the sign fell down. I've reinstalled it... :D

Way to kick a guy when he's down. Man, that's cold...go back to show & shine.

My comments weren’t meant to belittle him at all and I am sorry for you if that is what you read into my post. I can only hope you haven't misinterpreted some of the more momentous and important moments of your life.

I really feel sad for this guy in all sincerity. It has nothing about belittling him or bringing him down. It makes me feel grateful that there are so many people I can call if I am feeling down or have a problem to discuss; it's hard to imagine that many do not have this opportunity.

I wish VelociRedBeast the best and my apologies if he was offended.

For the English professor here, you fit the stereotype. Here’s an extract and a link from Miriam-Webster. In case you were not aware, these are dictionary people. There happens to be a few of them around and this dictionary is most commonly known as the ‘collegiate’ dictionary.

Collegiate, in case you were wondering what that big word means, means that it relates to college, an institute of higher learning.


Main Entry: ad•vise
Pronunciation: &d-'vIz
Function: verb
Inflected Form(s): ad•vised; ad•vis•ing
Etymology: Middle English, from Middle French aviser, from avis
transitive senses
1 a : to give advice to : COUNSEL <advise her to try a drier climate> b : CAUTION, WARN <advise them of the consequences> c : RECOMMEND <advise prudence>
2 : to give information or notice to : INFORM <advise them of their rights>
intransitive senses
1 : to give advice <advise on legal matters>
2 : to take counsel : CONSULT
- ad•vis•er also ad•vi•sor /-'vI-z&r/ noun

http://www.m-w.com/cgi-bin/dictionary?book=Dictionary&va=advise

Check your usage.

Advise is a verb. (As expressed in the passage you quoted.)

Advice is a noun.

You said:

It's sad to see someone have to resort to a car forum to vent their personal tragedies and get advise.

I advise you to be less smug in the future. Thanks for the advice. :D


My comments weren’t meant to belittle him at all and I am sorry for you if that is what you read into my post. I can only hope you haven't misinterpreted some of the more momentous and important moments of your life.

I really feel sad for this guy in all sincerity. It has nothing about belittling him or bringing him down. It makes me feel grateful that there are so many people I can call if I am feeling down or have a problem to discuss; it's hard to imagine that many do not have this opportunity.

I wish VelociRedBeast the best and my apologies if he was offended.

For the English professor here, you fit the stereotype. Here’s an extract and a link from Miriam-Webster. In case you were not aware, these are dictionary people. There happens to be a few of them around and this dictionary is most commonly known as the ‘collegiate’ dictionary.

Collegiate, in case you were wondering what that big word means, means that it relates to college, an institute of higher learning.


Main Entry: ad•vise
Pronunciation: &d-'vIz
Function: verb
Inflected Form(s): ad•vised; ad•vis•ing
Etymology: Middle English, from Middle French aviser, from avis
transitive senses
1 a : to give advice to : COUNSEL <advise her to try a drier climate> b : CAUTION, WARN <advise them of the consequences> c : RECOMMEND <advise prudence>
2 : to give information or notice to : INFORM <advise them of their rights>
intransitive senses
1 : to give advice <advise on legal matters>
2 : to take counsel : CONSULT
- ad•vis•er also ad•vi•sor /-'vI-z&r/ noun

http://www.m-w.com/cgi-bin/dictionary?book=Dictionary&va=advise

We just found jsh1120's long lost cuz...LOL

You complain about him adding things into your post...while your making a HUGE assumption that he does not have friends to talk to about this issue. Maybe...he thinks some people here are his "online" friends and wants to see what they think.

Again, you are making a big assumption to know him or how many friends he has.

Like I implied, I hope it works out for him. I don't make any assumptions.

Wow this thread really has it all asshats, abortion, grammer nazi's! All we need now is religon, and politics and we will have everything! (T-Minus 2 pages to mod lock).

Now back on topic. All in all it sounds like your in a hardplace, it sounds like her mind is made up and that if you try to get in the middle of it your gonna end up with a broken friendship. I don't know what I would do if I was you so all I can offer is a goodluck and hope everything works out for the best.

I can only hope you haven't misinterpreted some of the more momentous and important moments of your life.

...

Alright, a bit of a background...(I'm a little drunk so if there is an awkward sentance that's why_

There's a good friend of mine, I've KNOWN her for 6 years, been good friends the first 2 then I moved for a year and came back and we've been friends again for the past 1.5 years. I honestly love this girl, but we met up(The second time) because she was my neighbors g/f by coincidence and we became friends again. I then became to genuinly love this girl as a friend/sister maybe even more, I dunno, me and my neighbor became good friends so there was no way I would ever do anything with her. Well a couple months after we met up again she got pregnant by him(This was the first guy she had ever been with). Now the kid is almost a year old and I love him, he'll probly call me uncle one day, I spend so much time with him, he's the cutest little kid EVER. the three of them live with a roomate who's my BEST friend's cousin. and he has some issues and is dating some slut who even I'VE had an..encounter..with.

Well here's what happened. My friend has been known to do stupid shit when he's drunk. last night the girl(my friend) walked in on her fiances(The baby's-daddy) thier roomate(My best friend's cousin) with the slut I was talking about.

The father of the boy told her, he hadn't had sex in a while and was just watching them and masturbating. (Ya, that's why he was butt naked right?).

And I swear I love this girl and I'm ready to beta the hell out of both of them. She is starting to believe his lie about masterbating. (I haven't cried since I was in middle school but I'm getting pretty close. I love her and her kid.)

...Life sux...

you know what.. I just re-read your entire post.. And you DO have to help your friend (the girl)

My best friend has a sister who I've gotten to know very very well over the last 14 years. I consider her a sister, and if I substitute her name in place of your friend I would feel the exact same :mad: I'd be pissed off..

Now let's look into this more carefully.

1. The dude who she is with, is your neighbor.. probaly a friend but not a great friend (not trying to assume). Would you consider your friend more of a friend then your neighbor? have to think about that one
2. Your BEST FRIENDS cousin should have known better!!!! You should actually talk to your best friend about this because this is totally wrong and he should have known this was a big NO NO

How I would proceed with this?

1. I'd talk to my best friend, i can tell him anything and I hope you can do the same.. Tell him your cousin was out of line and him gloating about this little threesome is f*cked up..
2. Be there for your friend (the girl), the only thing you can really do is just listen, but don't turn around and try to move in when she's at her worst. That would be a quality of an ass as well and you'd be no better then the other 3.
3. Finally maybe even try talking to the neighbor.. If he is your friend, maybe there is something he isn't telling you, maybe something is up with him

I know other people are saying to run for the hills and don't let this bother you. But regardless this is a friend. And if I were in the same boat I would hope that the people I consider close friends would be there to listen to me complain and whine while i get through a fiasco like this(referring to the girl again, regardless she would need help to get through this)..

wow.. I'd kill a man if anyone did that to MY friend.. And just because she's a chic doesn't mean there's some weird invisible wall where your not allowed to give her advise or be there for her..

But still.. That's a messed up situation.. the dude was sitting there jacking off while watching someone else have sex, and he expects she would believe that! guess what buddy, that's why PORN was invented!@!!

Good luck, i hope things turn out for the best and maybe this was a big mis understanding? :rolleyes:



MrJynx

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http://img352.imageshack.us/img352/9403/panneau20looser20800x600demo1p.jpg

:D

One thing that I like about asking for advice on the internet is that there is a much larger range of experience here. I grew up with most of my freinds, or they're in similar places in thier lives. It's nice to hear from people with wildly different life expereince who are in different phases of their lives than me. I don't really need advice from people like me, I can think of that myself. I need advice from people who can see problems differently than I and my freinds.

What I don't understand RedSheDevil is how, after you have stooped so low as to call me names in your attachment, you can be in a position to critique my conduct? Have you ever thought to lead by example?

What I don't understand RedSheDevil is how, after you have stooped so low as to call me names in your attachment, you can be in a position to critique my conduct? Have you ever thought to lead by example?
Get a grip...and a sense of humor.

Is it too late to get this girl's phone number? The one in the threesome that is.

Is it too late to get this girl's phone number? The one in the threesome that is.
The one known as STD? Bring a jimmy hat, mate! :D

http://img352.imageshack.us/img352/9403/panneau20looser20800x600demo1p.jpg

:D
Shinks, you crack me up!!! :D :D Check your AIM.....too funny!

I think her name is Sara actually

let me see if i understand this- a girl he loves has a baby with another man. this girl walked in on the other man and a couple when they were engaged in some sort of 3 some. Now he wants to go fight the other man?

^ its all too complicated for me

PIIDB

Joining the soap opera already in progress ...
you know what.. I just re-read your entire post.. And you DO have to help your friend (the girl)

She has to help herself, including figuring out how she gets into such situations. He can't order her life around, and he can't help anyone if he's not thinking clearly.

wow.. I'd kill a man if anyone did that to MY friend.

That's kind of medieval.

Would you kill a woman for cheating on a boyfriend? Make the punishment fit the crime.

(Bottom line: he should run for the hills.)

Would you kill a woman for cheating on a boyfriend? Make the punishment fit the crime.

(Bottom line: he should run for the hills.)
You mean.....you should make the guy have sex with another guy?

Piide

You mean.....you should make the guy have sex with another guy?
Huh?

Put it in da ... ear? esophagus? european union?

either eye or ear

OK, this is way too strange for me, even though my biggest goal right now is finding some strange.

i like how him watching and "spanking the monkey" all of a sudden makes it "okay"


thats like that part in road trip where its like "its not cheating if..............(insert convoluted logic here that stretches the bound of legality)

Sorry, but if you follow the tough love theme that people are telling you, you will come off as the bad guy in this...trust me. Somehow it's going to come off as you wanting her, and the only reason you are taking yher side is because you want her. Even if you have altruistic intentions. She is defending this guy to you. If you push it, she will keep on defending this guy, then she will convince herself of all the BS she is spouting. You either have to get the other girl to "fess" up to her, or have the boyfriend/husband come clean. If you go to her calling this guy a dirtbag, she is going to get pissed at you. Seen it happen before. 11 out of 10 times, you will be screwed.

let me see if i understand this- a girl he loves has a baby with another man. this girl walked in on the other man and a couple when they were engaged in some sort of 3 some. Now he wants to go fight the other man?

like I said, I don't care if I'm with her or not. I want her to be happy and he broke her heart bad.

Just be careful. You trash this guy, you are going to come off looking like the jealous A-hole & may even push her more towards this two bit loser.

Got any pics of the slut? http://img207.imageshack.us/img207/8779/jerkit3cb.gif

i agree with speed. we gotta see the booty

I'll see if I can find any. may a take a few days.

I'll see if I can find any. may a take a few days.

:D

*taking numbers for the HIT IT show*

Step up, step up, don't be shy...

*BUMP*

Where dose booty pics? I gots to see em myself to see what all the hype is about!!!

If you truly love her and want her to truly love you, she's going to have to learn herself that this guy is an a-hole and a cheat. You can't convince her otherwise. You're probably thinking of taking care of her as yours already. Love on the rebound is only good sex.. NOT love at all. Either way it's not all that bad when you're young. How old are you anyways?

Hippity Dippity!!