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foo77
07-22-2005, 07:57 PM
can anyone tell me how to use triptronic gear(when to change 1st --> 2nd --> 3rd and 4th? thanks :) i don't really know at what speed i should change the gear :o

NgoRX8
07-22-2005, 08:00 PM
Any speed you want. It doesn't matter if you do not care about wasting gas. Just don't do it too early like around 2000 rpm. I usually shift at 3000 rpm for regular drive. But occasionally ill leave it to 4000 rpm for fun. But it all depends on your driving habits.

therm8
07-22-2005, 08:02 PM
1-->2 47mph
2-->3 81mph
3-->4 124mph


:D

NgoRX8
07-22-2005, 08:11 PM
HAHA, what is your mileage? :p

I would do that do but then I would be getting 10 mpg. :o

zoom44
07-22-2005, 08:27 PM
beep shift beep shiftbeep shift

foo77
07-22-2005, 08:56 PM
thank guys ;) actually i used to change it by hearing shifting sound from the exhaust,but i can't hear it well with the stock :D can't wait for my RB to come :rolleyes:

DigitalPimp
07-23-2005, 02:10 PM
agrees beep shift beep shift

Vertigo-1
07-24-2005, 04:53 AM
Shift below 3750 to save gas, shift at anything over to have fun. ;) My shift points are 3500 for in town cruising, 5000 when doing spirited driving around town, and of course redline when I'm out on some loooooooong backroad where I can stretch 2nd gear's legs all the way to redline.

I do have one concern though when doing a 2-3 shift, and I wonder if anybody else experiences it. Sometimes when shifting up, right in the moment after you shift, the RPMs will suddenly flare up an extra hundred or two before 3rd gear engages. It only happens on the 2nd to 3rd gear shift. Anybody else experience that? I believe some Proteges used to have this "problem", and it was grounds for replacing transmissions and whatnot to get rid of the problem. The problem was also related to the specific transmissions used in the Protege.

whenson417
07-26-2005, 10:44 AM
I have that same problem. Sometimes it feels like it doesn't want to change gears and just revs the hell out of the engine. When it does finally change is gives you a good jolt.

agentx100
07-26-2005, 12:55 PM
Are people here happy with the automatic transmission or would you change for the 6 speed? Reason I am asking is that several posts have not recommended the auto for the RX8.

my10ae
07-26-2005, 01:33 PM
Agentx100:

It's all a matter of taste and preference. If you like the 6sp, go for it. If you like the idea of an auto with a "semi-auto" mode, choose the auto.

Let's keep the peace...

Thanks... :D

Cross-F8er
07-27-2005, 11:58 AM
Is it bad to be at a complete stop on 2nd gear?
Usually, the car downshifts for you if you forget to manually do it, but sometimes, on 2nd gear, it doesn't downshift to 1st, it just stays on 2nd even when my speedometer reads 0mph. Is this normal?

I also noticed that without using triptronic, my car sometimes goes to 7000-7300rpms on second gear. Is that normal? This happens when i push the gas a little hard but not to the floor.

Vertigo-1
07-29-2005, 06:28 AM
It's normal to stay stuck in 2nd gear at a complete stop...depending on what you're doing at the moment, it's either useful, or incredibly dangerous at times. It's useful in the sense that if you're in stop and go traffic or cruising around a parking lot, you can put it into 2nd so you don't get jerked around so much from the torquey first gear. Also useful if you want to avoid slipping the rear from a start when it's wet.

On the other hand, it can be potentially dangerous because a lot of times, I'll come to a complete stop at a stoplight to make a last second turn left, and assume the car shifted back into first already. Stomp on it to go...only to have the car crawl through the intersection because it's still unexpectedly in 2nd gear. All while some huge Tacoma with monster wheels comes bearing down on me at 50 mph or something. :eek: I've lost count of how many times I've been in this situation. Just be sure to keep an eye on your gear indicator to make sure you're in first, should you encounter this situation yourself. Also, cruising to a stop in 3rd or 4th will guarantee a shift back into 1st.

As for the other thing, I think most automatics are programmed to shift near redline if you stomp on it hard enough, so that should be quite normal.

derwankel
07-29-2005, 06:36 AM
I agree 100% with vertigo-1

NgoRX8
07-30-2005, 12:02 PM
The car will stay in 2nd gear at a complete stop if you do not go over say 29/30 mph while you are in 2nd or 3rd gear. It's normal.

Like Whoa
07-30-2005, 01:42 PM
vertigo and whenson i had the same problem except it was in every gear including from reverse to drive. My car would "jerk" real hard after shifting at any time so i had gotten a new transmission.

Diabolical RX8
07-30-2005, 01:48 PM
vertigo and whenson i had the same problem except it was in every gear including from reverse to drive. My car would "jerk" real hard after shifting at any time so i had gotten a new transmission.

The automatic RX8 takes awhile to engage to reverse and drive. Just about every automatic owner has noticed that. Dont give it gas just as soon as you change gears. Wait about 1 second then start off.

Vertigo-1
07-31-2005, 03:30 PM
The car will stay in 2nd gear at a complete stop if you do not go over say 29/30 mph while you are in 2nd or 3rd gear. It's normal.

So the staying in 2nd gear at a stop thing is related to speed then? I'll have to play around with this...I've been trying to figure out what exactly triggers it, since it seems so random. Ideally I want to trigger whatever it is that would boot it back into 1st everytime when stopping completely.

derwankel
07-31-2005, 03:55 PM
So the staying in 2nd gear at a stop thing is related to speed then? I'll have to play around with this...I've been trying to figure out what exactly triggers it, since it seems so random. Ideally I want to trigger whatever it is that would boot it back into 1st everytime when stopping completely.


Ah ... that would be your left or right thumb. :) I always tap the DOWN paddle a couple of times everytime I come to a stop ... works every time.

And by the way, I believe this functionality is described in the owner's manual.

SushiFan
09-08-2007, 08:28 AM
My ride is a 1 year old 4AT. I seem to be expriencing problems when the changes from 3rd gear to 2nd, e.g. slowing down on approaching a hump and accelerating after that on 2nd. I tend to get a jolt even if I just gently tap the accelerator when accelerating out on 2nd gear. Is this a gear box or transmission problem? Anybody can advise?

tajabaho1
09-08-2007, 12:19 PM
I shift when it gets a bit loud, my K&N and exhaust are my shift points, unless I go WOT and blow my ear drums

RotaryP7
09-08-2007, 12:59 PM
I shift when I hear the beep. Or sometimes just shift at odds.. 30, 60, 90, and so on..

ShinkaChicago
09-08-2007, 03:35 PM
beep shift beep shiftbeep shift

+1 beep shift beep shift beep shift up to 6th gear. Zoom-Zoom!

my gas needle is just going down haha.

Atilla
09-08-2007, 03:45 PM
My ride is a 1 year old 4AT. I seem to be expriencing problems when the changes from 3rd gear to 2nd, e.g. slowing down on approaching a hump and accelerating after that on 2nd. I tend to get a jolt even if I just gently tap the accelerator when accelerating out on 2nd gear. Is this a gear box or transmission problem? Anybody can advise?

No that's normal...

5rpm's in 3rd gear is kinda like 7 or 8 rpms in 2nd gear <- prob gonna get flammed for that but whatever...don't know how else to explain it...:uhh:

Phil's 8
09-08-2007, 04:02 PM
I see this thread is going nowhere - too bad it could have been fun.

ShinkaChicago
09-08-2007, 04:22 PM
Are people here happy with the automatic transmission or would you change for the 6 speed? Reason I am asking is that several posts have not recommended the auto for the RX8.


All i can say is...I love my 6Speed AT/Manual Mode. The question is, Are people here happy with MT? I mean cmmon now...I got both AT and Manual Mode. If i go drive thru and order some burger, i can use my AT so i can enjoy eating my burger or if my gf sits besides me i just use my AT so i can concentrate with her and if someones tailing me and he/she wants to race me, then i can go to manual mode. Thats what u call......"Best of Both Wolrds"

RotaryP7
09-08-2007, 06:21 PM
No doubt. Represent!

SushiFan
09-08-2007, 06:43 PM
No that's normal...

5rpm's in 3rd gear is kinda like 7 or 8 rpms in 2nd gear <- prob gonna get flammed for that but whatever...don't know how else to explain it...:uhh:

Thanx for the advice. Never driven an 8 before so I got a bit worried when I start getting these jolt as well as hear "knock" sounds from the bonnet whenever this happens.

Atilla
09-08-2007, 07:20 PM
Thanx for the advice. Never driven an 8 before so I got a bit worried when I start getting these jolt as well as hear "knock" sounds from the bonnet whenever this happens.

well...i don't know about the 'knock' you might be hearing - knocking sounds are pretty dangerous from what i've read...

but i mean, if all you're doing is down shifting then feeling a jolt of power when you push on the gas - it should be fine - i don't know if i've ever heard any noise?

also - it kinda helps that this is one of my first AT's ever...aside from my first car...down shifting to get more power is very common among MT drivers...

SushiFan
09-08-2007, 09:32 PM
well...i don't know about the 'knock' you might be hearing - knocking sounds are pretty dangerous from what i've read...

but i mean, if all you're doing is down shifting then feeling a jolt of power when you push on the gas - it should be fine - i don't know if i've ever heard any noise?

also - it kinda helps that this is one of my first AT's ever...aside from my first car...down shifting to get more power is very common among MT drivers...

You hear the sound when you purposely switch off your radio and a/c, i.e. no back ground noise. The sound is hard to describe but it coincides when the gear engages once you press the accelerator. Its like a muffled sound when 2 metal pieces contact each other (with an accompanying jolt). I don't get it all the time, but often during prolong driving. Early morning starting out is ok.

Phil's 8
09-08-2007, 09:53 PM
You hear the sound when you purposely switch off your radio and a/c, i.e. no back ground noise. The sound is hard to describe but it coincides when the gear engages once you press the accelerator. Its like a muffled sound when 2 metal pieces contact each other (with an accompanying jolt). I don't get it all the time, but often during prolong driving. Early morning starting out is ok.

Sounds like your lugging it. If your in the correct gear for your rpm range, you should not be able to hear the a/t over the engine. If in the wrong gear/rpm range you can/will hear the pressure shifter trying to compensate. Ether lugging it, your hearing things, the a/t is having a big problem or some other part is failing (most likley).

SushiFan
09-09-2007, 01:33 AM
Sounds like your lugging it. If your in the correct gear for your rpm range, you should not be able to hear the a/t over the engine. If in the wrong gear/rpm range you can/will hear the pressure shifter trying to compensate. Ether lugging it, your hearing things, the a/t is having a big problem or some other part is failing (most likley).

Hi, thanx for the info. But what's "Lugging"? Mine is a 4AT and the problem I described above is when its in full auto mode. Yeah, quite worried some part is failing but I dont get such problems when accelerating out on 1st or 3rd gear after coming to a slow. Only second gear. I wonder what gives?

Phil's 8
09-09-2007, 02:05 PM
Hi, thanx for the info. But what's "Lugging"? Mine is a 4AT and the problem I described above is when its in full auto mode. Yeah, quite worried some part is failing but I dont get such problems when accelerating out on 1st or 3rd gear after coming to a slow. Only second gear. I wonder what gives?

Lugging it is when your in a higher gear range then the speed or RPMs will support and your trying to accelerate without dropping into a lower gear. Normally in a/t mode the transmission will automatically down shift but if you don't ask it to by pressing the accelerator, it lugs along, making noise as the pressure shifter is compensating and eventually will down shift. Fix! drive it more aggressively.

Can't say for sure that is what your hearing. Try being more aggressive and see if your noise does not stop.

therm8
09-09-2007, 06:56 PM
My ride is a 1 year old 4AT. I seem to be expriencing problems when the changes from 3rd gear to 2nd, e.g. slowing down on approaching a hump and accelerating after that on 2nd. I tend to get a jolt even if I just gently tap the accelerator when accelerating out on 2nd gear. Is this a gear box or transmission problem? Anybody can advise?


if you blip the throttle immediately after pushing the button (shifter) and rev match, it's smooth as butter. There's enough delay between gears to match revs for any shift other than the 2-1, and even on that one you can get close.

Vertigo-1
09-10-2007, 05:34 AM
I've noticed lately that sometimes when coming to a complete stop in 3rd, my 8 will very occasionally shift into 2nd instead of back into first like it's supposed to, and it feels VERY nasty and harsh. Kinda makes me worried that something's starting to go. Likewise, when coming to a near stop in 3rd, such as doing 7-5 mph but then suddenly the traffic gets going again, I'll try to go into 2nd to get moving again...and again the shift is nasty hard. To avoid this I'll have to sometimes lug 3rd until I get to about 15 mph and then drop into 2nd to make it smooth. And I have these issues now in full auto or manual mode.

I really wish the auto downshifting would be more consistent and go back into first like it's supposed to, instead of getting all confused about it. I wonder if it has to do with the quality of the transmission fluid...I've just been going with whatever my dealer puts in so far, haven't tried any high performance fluids yet.

SushiFan
09-10-2007, 05:54 AM
if you blip the throttle immediately after pushing the button (shifter) and rev match, it's smooth as butter. There's enough delay between gears to match revs for any shift other than the 2-1, and even on that one you can get close.

Hi Therm8, thanx for the tip. Please pardon me for ignorance of the car's parts but what button (shifter) were you referring to? My car's a 4AT and my problem is coming from driving it in full auto mode. To further elaborate, it is like a "thud" sound that accompanies with the jolt when I touch the accelerator after letting the car slow down (foot off accelerator) from gear 3 to gear 2. I live in Singapore which has heavy traffic all round and many road humps along small roads and multi storey car park, so I get into such scenarios quite often. A bit difficult and dangerous to drive aggresively to overcome this problem. Was wondering could it be an electronics mapping problem?, ATF cooler problem that's affecting my gear change?

Phil's 8
09-10-2007, 06:59 AM
I've noticed lately that sometimes when coming to a complete stop in 3rd, my 8 will very occasionally shift into 2nd instead of back into first like it's supposed to, and it feels VERY nasty and harsh. Kinda makes me worried that something's starting to go. Likewise, when coming to a near stop in 3rd, such as doing 7-5 mph but then suddenly the traffic gets going again, I'll try to go into 2nd to get moving again...and again the shift is nasty hard. To avoid this I'll have to sometimes lug 3rd until I get to about 15 mph and then drop into 2nd to make it smooth. And I have these issues now in full auto or manual mode.

I really wish the auto downshifting would be more consistent and go back into first like it's supposed to, instead of getting all confused about it. I wonder if it has to do with the quality of the transmission fluid...I've just been going with whatever my dealer puts in so far, haven't tried any high performance fluids yet.

I am not an expert on the a/t but I am looking at it seriously. I do not know your actual situation with milage/ambiant heat/driving habits/condition of existing fluids, but it sounds like a pump is week/failing/plugged. Before I would do much else I think, if I were you, I'd try RP or RL a/t fluid. If you continue to lug it you may injure other components.

Need2Speed
09-11-2007, 03:16 AM
Shift below 3750 to save gas, shift at anything over to have fun. ;) My shift points are 3500 for in town cruising, 5000 when doing spirited driving around town, and of course redline when I'm out on some loooooooong backroad where I can stretch 2nd gear's legs all the way to redline.

I do have one concern though when doing a 2-3 shift, and I wonder if anybody else experiences it. Sometimes when shifting up, right in the moment after you shift, the RPMs will suddenly flare up an extra hundred or two before 3rd gear engages. It only happens on the 2nd to 3rd gear shift. Anybody else experience that? I believe some Proteges used to have this "problem", and it was grounds for replacing transmissions and whatnot to get rid of the problem. The problem was also related to the specific transmissions used in the Protege.

the AT gearbox in the RX is a semi-automatic one. Therefore when you shift gears you're supposed to lift off the accelerator about half an inch, just like in a normal manual. This way the revs won't rise up when up shifting. I don't think it's a gearbox problem, you just have to adjust your driving style.

Vertigo-1
09-11-2007, 04:25 AM
the AT gearbox in the RX is a semi-automatic one. Therefore when you shift gears you're supposed to lift off the accelerator about half an inch, just like in a normal manual. This way the revs won't rise up when up shifting. I don't think it's a gearbox problem, you just have to adjust your driving style.

I kinda figured that was maybe it and I have compensated for the flare up by lifting off throttle. The problem though is that it happens very inconsistently. I think it's less likely to happen if I go WOT for instance, or am gentle on the gas. It's when I start trying to do some spirited driving and pushing the peddle beyond gentle but not quite WOT that it'll start doing the flare up. And some drives, it won't do it at all...other drives, it'll do it with every spirited 2-3 shift.

RotaryP7
09-11-2007, 10:08 AM
the AT gearbox in the RX is a semi-automatic one. Therefore when you shift gears you're supposed to lift off the accelerator about half an inch, just like in a normal manual. This way the revs won't rise up when up shifting. I don't think it's a gearbox problem, you just have to adjust your driving style.

I've done that and I've also let go of the gas and then shift and continue. Might be harmful I believe but yeh, no loss or damages yet.. :uhh:

Phil's 8
09-11-2007, 10:33 AM
the AT gearbox in the RX is a semi-automatic one. Therefore when you shift gears you're supposed to lift off the accelerator about half an inch, just like in a normal manual. This way the revs won't rise up when up shifting. I don't think it's a gearbox problem, you just have to adjust your driving style.

Not sure where your coming from on this "semi automatic". You ether have an a/t or a m/t. Mazda presently does not offer any other transmissions to the US market. You may have something that is not available here. The a/t that is available here is a true automatic transmission the same as Ford or Dodge. If lifting off the accelerator works for you than so be it but it should not be necessary. Many many years ago Dodge offered a transmission that shifted like a stick shift but had no clutch pedal. They called that a semi-automatic. God that was a lot of years ago - can't even remember the year.

tajabaho1
09-11-2007, 03:31 PM
Hey guys, I've heard about clutchless manual transmissions, is it on the gallardo or something?

RotaryP7
09-11-2007, 04:38 PM
Hey guys, I've heard about clutchless manual transmissions, is it on the gallardo or something?

I think some of the newer M3 models have that..

TougeFiend
09-11-2007, 07:00 PM
You should see pics of the interior of new Skyline GTR, no clutch pedal :uhh: Some Porsche's and Ferrari's have paddle shifters that require you not to depress a clutch pedal, I could be wrong, but I believe the 911 Turbo model is like that.

tajabaho1
09-11-2007, 11:02 PM
imagine one in an rx-8! :D lets see if I can find one from a wrecked ferrari :D

mdw1000
09-12-2007, 10:08 AM
If you do some google searches on DSG and SMG, I'm sure you'll see all about them. I'm hoping for a DSG on the next RX car.

Phil's 8
09-12-2007, 10:17 AM
imagine one in an rx-8! :D lets see if I can find one from a wrecked Ferrari :D

Nice try. Will not fit or work as it takes more than that to have sequential shifting. Hell if you could afford the sequential box you should have purchased the actual Ferrari.

tajabaho1
09-12-2007, 10:22 AM
>.< NOoooo another bad idea from tajaba

nah, I was thinking of pulling one out from a wrecked car, shouldn't cost that much any how

and I don't rly want the sequencial shifting, I'm just trying to reinforce this slushy

Phil's 8
09-12-2007, 02:27 PM
>.< NOoooo another bad idea from tajaba

nah, I was thinking of pulling one out from a wrecked car, shouldn't cost that much any how

and I don't rly want the sequencial shifting, I'm just trying to reinforce this slushy

Not a bad idea just not practical - nothing would readily fit the 8 from any Faharri and expecially a trans (with out extensive modification). "Not much cost" on a sequencial shifter is about $15,000 in Las Vegas. I have no Idea how much in Ca.

There are no bad ideas as long as they stay ideas just as there are no dumb questions (some have been asked so many times they seem dumb). Just do not act on a idea untill you've asked the questions.

Consider that the $15,000 is with out any warranty that it will work.

tajabaho1
09-13-2007, 11:02 AM
I wanna try to upgrade our transmission, after some thought and drive in CA, I have concluded, that faster=better, but I would want to stay with AT, and since, it seems this board has concluded that the AT tranny of the rx-8 is pretty much crap, I think it would be cheaper to just replace it and try to refab something else to make it fit

Phil's 8
09-13-2007, 12:24 PM
I wanna try to upgrade our transmission, after some thought and drive in CA, I have concluded, that faster=better, but I would want to stay with AT, and since, it seems this board has concluded that the AT tranny of the rx-8 is pretty much crap, I think it would be cheaper to just replace it and try to refab something else to make it fit

I understand what, where and why but the a/t is not stand alone it also has a computer (of sorts) and has some input into the stock ECM. I would not be easy to do any major change of the type your talking about , even if it can be done. The world will not end tomorrow, sit back and relax as there may be some upgrades coming for the a/t. Keep in mind that the 4 port will never be what the 6 port is but with a little work, luck and money you may eventually be happy.

tajabaho1
09-13-2007, 12:50 PM
I have a 6port.........

btw, so is the best way to make our slushy better is to just change some of the components inside? so to not touch the electronic computing chip (if our AT tranny is like the AT tranny in hondas)

saffrizzle
09-17-2007, 05:42 PM
All i can say is...I love my 6Speed AT/Manual Mode. The question is, Are people here happy with MT? I mean cmmon now...I got both AT and Manual Mode. If i go drive thru and order some burger, i can use my AT so i can enjoy eating my burger or if my gf sits besides me i just use my AT so i can concentrate with her and if someones tailing me and he/she wants to race me, then i can go to manual mode. Thats what u call......"Best of Both Wolrds"


You can switch to manual but sux that you wont win :lol2:

tajabaho1
09-17-2007, 07:10 PM
^ hmmm I would contradick that

saffrizzle
09-17-2007, 09:40 PM
After getting my 4at ive given up hope on that kind of racing. all i can do is autocross. on the hiway I can barely beat a civic :x

tajabaho1
09-18-2007, 12:54 PM
is the 4port that bad? cmon it can't be that much worse than 6 ports?

Phil's 8
09-18-2007, 12:57 PM
After getting my 4at ive given up hope on that kind of racing. all i can do is autocross. on the hiway I can barely beat a civic :x

If your staying n/a, then you are somewhat correct. There are a few things you can do/add to gain a few horses, but FI is the only way that gets you lots of horses in the a/t. The a/t was not intended for racing and if a Civic is beating you in the corners, you need driving lessons. Enjoy what you got or improve it.

To answer tajabaho1, our a/t is nothing like a Honda, it's more like a domestic car. Like I said earlier, keep your pants on as things may be happening for the a/t.

tajabaho1
09-18-2007, 02:30 PM
I am keeping them on phil, I don't plan to go FI until I get that radiator from charles r hills, but I'm just experimenting with these used parts for the moment, so when I go FI, shit dont go wrong you know

Atilla
09-18-2007, 09:20 PM
-1 for tajabaho experimenting - come on man - the 6spd's need you...:) haha - jk

i think Phil's trying to hint at something man - i think we should heed his saying and wait a bit - I think there's something to be had soon........hopefully, if im not misreading Phil's statements/hints - :dunno:

tajabaho1
09-18-2007, 09:22 PM
yea, I think he knows something juicy......he's just not telling us >.<

Atilla
09-18-2007, 09:25 PM
-dude, you need to make sure you get a lot of pic's of the paradox booth (in case i don't make it) - a tranny upgrade for us would be HUGE!

Phil's 8
09-18-2007, 09:42 PM
-dude, you need to make sure you get a lot of pic's of the paradox booth (in case i don't make it) - a tranny upgrade for us would be HUGE!

Your reading something that is not there.......no where did I say that there was any upgrade available for the a/t or even hint that anything would be available at SSX. What I did say was that something may be on the horizon. It takes a while for any thing to be developed. What you will see an the Paradox booth will be the new radiator for the a/t, upgraded axles, Charles R. Hill, Mazda Maniac, Chickenwafer and three black 8s that represent the three main different ways to achieve horsepower. NOs, Turbo & supercharger. Three guesses as to which is mine.

What's up Atilla??? You live in socal and will not come to SSX? I think the word sacrilege comes to mind.

Atilla
09-18-2007, 10:23 PM
:rant: DAMN YOU MS. CLEO! YOU'VE WRONGED ME AGAIN!!!

i know you didn't say anything specifically Phil...i was just wishing on a star man...ha-

But yeah, I may not make it because of family reasons - honestly if it had nothing to do with my parents i would've ditched the lot of them. But it does, and things aren't looking good...

tajabaho1
09-18-2007, 10:36 PM
hey phil, what does the upgraded axles do?

and why oh why is all three of your cars black

Atilla
09-18-2007, 10:40 PM
and why oh why is all three of your cars black

^probably for the same reason our cars are both silver :cwm27:

tajabaho1
09-19-2007, 12:09 AM
i c. so silvers will never be fast, and all the black ones are the only fast ones? ok............I fucking hate this forum

Phil's 8
09-19-2007, 10:15 AM
hey phil, what does the upgraded axles do?

and why oh why is all three of your cars black

Ray developed them for racing - you'll have to ask him about the particulars.

Didn't you know?? Black 8s are the fastest & easiest to mod, silver the slowest and hardest to mod :) Great minds think alike:lol2: :lol2:

Sorry to hear that you may not make it Atilla.

tajabaho1
09-19-2007, 10:22 AM
hmm, I think I can figure your cars out by knocking on the hood and hearing the reverberation? lol because obviously ur car will sound more clanky?
or just look at teh intercooler......

mdw1000
09-19-2007, 10:23 AM
I like having a silver 4-port AT 8. Makes me feel like the unwanted bastard stepchild of the RX-8 community.

In fact, I've thought about starting a sub-club for those with the bastard stepchild 8 like myself.

tajabaho1
09-19-2007, 10:38 AM
would be me you and atilla

RotaryP7
09-19-2007, 11:38 AM
I.. I.. Don't get this..

tajabaho1
09-19-2007, 01:00 PM
what do you get?

mdw1000
09-19-2007, 03:40 PM
No, you guys aren't enough of bastard stepchildren. You have the 6AT with the 6-port motor. You get a little too much respect to be in my club. :)

Primarch
09-19-2007, 04:18 PM
How happy are you guys with the ScanGuage or ScanGuage II? I am considering getting one.

Phil's 8
09-19-2007, 06:30 PM
I like having a silver 4-port AT 8. Makes me feel like the unwanted bastard stepchild of the RX-8 community.

In fact, I've thought about starting a sub-club for those with the bastard stepchild 8 like myself.

I'll bring a spray can of black paint to SSX and you can become one of the hot 4port eights. :)

The scan gauge (& II) is a nice unit that works very well. I keep mine plugged in all the time to monitor my temps. I can check any CELs and clear them at will. It was a good low cost investment for me.

mdw1000
09-19-2007, 06:54 PM
I really like having my ScanGaugeII as well. Lately the four gauges I've settled on are water temp, intake air temp, engine load, and instant mpg.

Atilla
09-19-2007, 09:27 PM
Hell Yeah Phil!! Two Tone My Car!! :(

Atilla
09-19-2007, 09:29 PM
i c. so silvers will never be fast, and all the black ones are the only fast ones? ok............I fucking hate this forum

Speak for yourself...

my car's black on the inside :) haha -

tajabaho1
09-19-2007, 09:35 PM
my car's black on the inside also........not only that, my car has a bigger ass than you too! MUHAHAH

Atilla
09-19-2007, 09:37 PM
well my friend....as long as we're black where it counts...:)

tajabaho1
09-19-2007, 09:54 PM
in the heart? hahah

Atilla
09-19-2007, 09:59 PM
^yeah, lets go with that :)

tajabaho1
09-19-2007, 10:14 PM
hey atilla, r u gonna come to SSX? if yea then we should meet up around 4 at the autobac then me u dozer and SE3P and maybe Eddie will come too, then we will go to meet up with jedi and them at the mall

Atilla
09-19-2007, 10:18 PM
it's lookin' like a negative man...my family is pissin' me off for makin' me miss this...

tajabaho1
09-20-2007, 12:55 AM
if u miss it, I will downgrade your car's status from long lost sister.....to cousin

saffrizzle
09-20-2007, 06:10 PM
If your staying n/a, then you are somewhat correct. There are a few things you can do/add to gain a few horses, but FI is the only way that gets you lots of horses in the a/t. The a/t was not intended for racing and if a Civic is beating you in the corners, you need driving lessons. Enjoy what you got or improve it.

To answer tajabaho1, our a/t is nothing like a Honda, it's more like a domestic car. Like I said earlier, keep your pants on as things may be happening for the a/t.

I lose to civics in a straight line, on autox i'm median so far. Mini cooper was better though for small courses like that tough

tajabaho1
09-20-2007, 09:13 PM
r u a 4 port or a 6 port? and u median auto-X? wtf are you? are you sure you car is an rx8?

Rotor Kreuzer
09-20-2007, 11:14 PM
How happy are you guys with the ScanGuage or ScanGuage II? I am considering getting one.

Am happy with my SG II as well. It's a pretty reasonably priced unit for a bit of peace of mind: keep mine plugged in all the time to monitor coolant temps.

tajabaho1
09-20-2007, 11:20 PM
what does the SGII do? just tell you stats of your car?

Primarch
09-21-2007, 01:06 AM
I really like having my ScanGaugeII as well. Lately the four gauges I've settled on are water temp, intake air temp, engine load, and instant mpg.

Thank you & Phil for the prompt response. Much appreciated. Do you recommend any particular retailer. I have not seen too many people that sell parts for our car and even all the Mazda dealerships don't carry MazdaSpeed parts. I have to drive 3 hours for that....any excuse to drive though......giggity, giggity.

mdw1000
09-21-2007, 11:34 AM
I went on ebay and searched for it. Bought it from an ebay store with good feedback.

The Scangauge has 3 main functions. Gauges, code reading/resetting/ and a trip computer. There are 12 different gauges it can display (4 at one time), although a couple don't work on our car (fuel pressure, for example).

http://www.scangauge.com/

tajabaho1
09-21-2007, 12:01 PM
cool :) I might buy 1 of that

saffrizzle
10-07-2007, 01:00 AM
r u a 4 port or a 6 port? and u median auto-X? wtf are you? are you sure you car is an rx8?

4port

saffrizzle
10-07-2007, 01:20 AM
tajabajo, how does sur car run with ur mods. How quick. Intake and exhaust alone shouldnt give you astronomical hp gains, and you make it seem like you have really fast car. Are the 6ports really that much faster than 4 ports? Right now stock my car does 0-60 in 9.5 seconds and doesnt really get to the juice until 5k rpm.
It gets really annoying that when I'm exiting the slalom on the track I cant get back to first gear where the power is and am stuck in 2nd gear in 3500rpm when im trying to gain speed for the straight. And its really hard to get to the powerband because I only have 4 speeds.

And its also annoying that I need to make up for lost time in the straights by zipping through the curves faster than the faster cars but even that doesnt let me keep up no matter how hard I push it.

I don't know that the 4 port should be in b-stock

I need a supercharger :|

tajabaho1
10-07-2007, 04:36 AM
well we can go race and u can find out for u self, and wtf, 9.5 seconds? are you kidding me? u gotta be right?

my car does 0-60 in 7 flat, with a brake launch its high 6s, (i video tape)
............u cant possibly be doing 0-60 in 9.5 seconds

saffrizzle
10-07-2007, 05:56 AM
thats what it was, I took my car to the dealer for its compression test earlier this year because of that. Unfortunatly it passed because I think i have a bad engine. slow as a rock :x

tajabaho1
10-07-2007, 12:52 PM
there is something wrong with your car man, check whether the intake has any obstructions, check the cat, how old is your car? maybe its time to change the coils and sparkplugs because 0-60 in 9.5 seconds is slower than my mom's old corolla, it cannot be real

RotaryP7
10-07-2007, 11:50 PM
I can actually run 0-60 in 9.5 seconds.

tajabaho1
10-08-2007, 12:07 AM
the real question is, can you run it faster than that?

Phil's 8
10-08-2007, 08:22 AM
tajabajo, how does sur car run with ur mods. How quick. Intake and exhaust alone shouldnt give you astronomical hp gains, and you make it seem like you have really fast car. Are the 6ports really that much faster than 4 ports? Right now stock my car does 0-60 in 9.5 seconds and doesnt really get to the juice until 5k rpm.
It gets really annoying that when I'm exiting the slalom on the track I cant get back to first gear where the power is and am stuck in 2nd gear in 3500rpm when im trying to gain speed for the straight. And its really hard to get to the powerband because I only have 4 speeds.

And its also annoying that I need to make up for lost time in the straights by zipping through the curves faster than the faster cars but even that doesnt let me keep up no matter how hard I push it.

I don't know that the 4 port should be in b-stock

I need a supercharger :|
SCCA has changed so many rules over the years I am not sure what class & type of car you would be up against with a s/c 4 port and do they even know the difference between 4 port & 6 port?. Care to inform me?

tajabaho1
10-08-2007, 12:20 PM
^ i dont know crap about that, however, phil, I would like to ask you something, you know our paddle shifters right? do you think i can reroute them or put in an amp, idk something to make their responses faster?

Phil's 8
10-08-2007, 03:19 PM
All it will take is someone to crack the language barrier with the ecu. There are flashes coming that will allow some communication with the ecu but the developers will not give up much information or release dates. Of course the MT is the main concern of the developers and we will get the tailings. Unless your a computer guru we will have to wait as see what they give us AT owners.

tajabaho1
10-08-2007, 04:24 PM
^ you have gave me another idea, however, I am no longer willing to destroy my ecu..........shit, I gotta find a victi..........I mean a volunteer whose ecu I can steal for 2-3 days.........

saffrizzle
10-08-2007, 07:28 PM
SCCA has changed so many rules over the years I am not sure what class & type of car you would be up against with a s/c 4 port and do they even know the difference between 4 port & 6 port?. Care to inform me?


I don't think they do, theres only one rx8 on the list. I'm not that dissapointed with it because at least 5 cars flew into the water or the mangroves and I got my rx8 home safe with a respectable time for a first timer to that race. rough track.

Atilla
10-08-2007, 09:19 PM
^hey saffrizzle

are you local? sorry if you posted this and i didn't see it...just wondering because i know Taj's car is a modded 6spd...mine's a stock 6spd except for a K&N drop - you say you don't get any 'juice' til 5k? ours def kicks in before that - but if you're local maybe i can help you at one of the autobac meets so you can see for yourself if there is any differences

Atilla
10-08-2007, 09:24 PM
^ you have gave me another idea, however, I am no longer willing to destroy my ecu..........shit, I gotta find a victi..........I mean a volunteer whose ecu I can steal for 2-3 days.........

remind me to dodge you at the next meet...:suspect:

tajabaho1
10-08-2007, 09:34 PM
nono, no no no no, I wont do anything to ur car, well, your car as a whole, mind if I........er..........take a look at your hood? hahaha

Atilla
10-08-2007, 09:43 PM
oh hell no! :cussing:

Phil's 8
10-08-2007, 09:49 PM
^hey saffrizzle

are you local? sorry if you posted this and i didn't see it...just wondering because i know Taj's car is a modded 6spd...mine's a stock 6spd except for a K&N drop - you say you don't get any 'juice' til 5k? ours def kicks in before that - but if you're local maybe i can help you at one of the autobac meets so you can see for yourself if there is any differences

When did Cali get mangroves??? You'd better hide your car - Taj is looking for a Volunteers ecu.

Atilla
10-08-2007, 09:57 PM
Mangroves? you went over my head on that one phil - i feil :(

but yeah, i'm parking my 8 on the other side of the damn parking lot at the next meet :(

saffrizzle
10-08-2007, 09:59 PM
This was in the Florida Keys :) I'm down in key west. Theres an old road called loop road out in one of the middle keys that we use to host the bay bottom crawl every year. Theres some videos of it on youtube

Atilla
10-08-2007, 10:01 PM
oh...haha...FL. my bad

tajabaho1
10-08-2007, 10:04 PM
rofl mao cakes :)

Atilla
10-08-2007, 10:11 PM
^haha...im gona be parked with the 240's n' Z's :(

tajabaho1
10-08-2007, 10:58 PM
no no, you will park right next to me

Phil's 8
10-08-2007, 11:53 PM
Attila, you'd better take off for the Florida Keys with saffrizzle. Taj is going to have your ecu if you don't disappear. You were offering to look at saffrizzles engine. He was talking about the cars he was racing going into the mangrove swamps. Oh well it was funny to me.
Phil

tajabaho1
10-09-2007, 12:35 AM
and I was talking about our ecu, cmon pls pls? I think I can find a bridge to connect it to me laptopz :)

rx8phase1
10-09-2007, 01:57 AM
one question when we shift gears do we have to let go of the gas like we do in a mt?cuz my pops has an m3 wich also has triptronic,but his clutch got f'd up

tajabaho1
10-09-2007, 09:48 AM
no, we dont have to, actually, its not recommended to

saffrizzle
10-09-2007, 08:38 PM
I want a clutch :x

tajabaho1
10-09-2007, 09:23 PM
then get a clutch, or better yet, clutch "pack" 3 in one ftw

Atilla
10-09-2007, 10:43 PM
i honestly i left off the gas when i shift only sometimes...but i swear it's strickly outta habit...:(

tajabaho1
10-09-2007, 10:54 PM
I swear I shift to N everytime I shift, its a double clutch thing I used to do when I drift, the irony is you can still drift in the AT rx-8 because our car's handling is just so fucking crazy.........if you don't believe me, come take a ride :)

Phil's 8
10-10-2007, 06:49 AM
i honestly i left off the gas when i shift only sometimes...but i swear it's strickly outta habit...:(

If you FI your car, you may be forced into lifting. Our at does not like to shift above 7500 RPM and you need to kind of force it to shift by lifting (paddle shifting only).

You can't hide in with the 350s your car has too much class (even with it being silver) and just stands out. You'll have to hide from Taj somewhere else.

tajabaho1
10-10-2007, 09:51 AM
red robins atilla?

Phil's 8
10-10-2007, 11:43 AM
red robins atilla?


Said the spider to the fly

tajabaho1
10-10-2007, 01:36 PM
phil, you must stop helping out atilla, he is doing this for the good of all AT8s, arent u atilla?

Atilla
10-10-2007, 06:14 PM
Would it kill you to take Sack's ECU??

oh wait...he's a 4spd huh?? CRAP!!

Next Mod: Mace Sprayers

Atilla
10-10-2007, 06:15 PM
red robins atilla?

Sure...in my brother's truck :)

tajabaho1
10-10-2007, 07:41 PM
no no, bring your 8 please, I...uhm.....wanna see her :)

DOMINION
10-21-2007, 09:43 AM
Anyone read post #11 on page one? lol

Anyway I shift at or just over 4K

Razz1
10-21-2007, 10:00 AM
It's normal to stay stuck in 2nd gear at a complete stop...depending on what you're doing at the moment, it's either useful, or incredibly dangerous at times. It's useful in the sense that if you're in stop and go traffic or cruising around a parking lot, you can put it into 2nd so you don't get jerked around so much from the torquey first gear. Also useful if you want to avoid slipping the rear from a start when it's wet.

On the other hand, it can be potentially dangerous because a lot of times, I'll come to a complete stop at a stoplight to make a last second turn left, and assume the car shifted back into first already. Stomp on it to go...only to have the car crawl through the intersection because it's still unexpectedly in 2nd gear. All while some huge Tacoma with monster wheels comes bearing down on me at 50 mph or something. :eek: I've lost count of how many times I've been in this situation. Just be sure to keep an eye on your gear indicator to make sure you're in first, should you encounter this situation yourself. Also, cruising to a stop in 3rd or 4th will guarantee a shift back into 1st.

As for the other thing, I think most automatics are programmed to shift near redline if you stomp on it hard enough, so that should be quite normal.

Sounds like a defective design or bad workmanship to me.

This is dangerous. First I've read of this. Is this really how the A/R works?

Can other respond?

tajabaho1
10-21-2007, 11:44 AM
uhm, its not "normal" but our transmission doing it IS NORMAL!!!

I have verified this and it doesn't get "stuck" in 2nd gear, if you are at a complete STOP and then put it in 2nd, and drive off, once you come to a complete stop again, in MT mode, your car will revert back to 2nd, and not 1st

to get rid of this, simply put ur car back into 1st in a complete stop

IF YOUR CAR GETS STUCK IN 2ND IN ANY OTHER SITUATION WITHOUT YOU DOING THIS! IT IS A DEFECTIVE TRANNY AND UR TRANNY ECU IS MESSED UP!! GET IT CHECKED OUT!

DOMINION
10-21-2007, 01:17 PM
Sounds like a defective design or bad workmanship to me.

This is dangerous. First I've read of this. Is this really how the A/R works?

Can other respond?

This happens to me. Maybe I need a new Tranny. Oh well. I'm waiting on C. Hill and Phill to pull off some sweet Tranny upgrade mods.

tajabaho1
10-21-2007, 01:34 PM
This happens to me. Maybe I need a new Tranny. Oh well. I'm waiting on C. Hill and Phill to pull off some sweet Tranny upgrade mods.

read my post

DOMINION
10-21-2007, 01:47 PM
I did. Now stop posting so dam much lol

tajabaho1
10-21-2007, 02:36 PM
lol, I just can't help it sometimes :)