Just found this on CNN.

http://www.cnn.com/2005/WORLD/europe/07/07/london.tube/index.html

I just woke up to this on NPR- I don't know what's going on there, but my thoughts and prayers are with everyone there- this is horrible...I can only hope this is not as bad as it sounds, but I'm afraid it is...

just saw tony blair on tv saying its terrorist related.......why wont they leave people alone!....

Some on-line news talk about possible 90 deads!!

I just heard closer to 10 dead, many wounded - they say its related to the G8 summit

another sad day :( :mad:

finally got in touch with my gf.... she is fine, lucky she have decided to stay home today

this shit makes me sooooo scared. I wish those morons would just sort of fall off the face of the planet..that'd make my day. Now i'm going to go to work and be spazing out all day and any time i hear anything loud the odds are pretty good i'll duck and cover. LOL. i'm jumpy the way it is-this shit just add's to it.

I just heard closer to 10 dead, many wounded - they say its related to the G8 summit
Hope you're right.

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My heart goes out to the people of London. Godspeed, and stay the course.

Related to the Olympic bid?

thats what they're saying...

Kinda makes me wonder what would have happened if NYC got it...

i'd honestly rather not think about that.....i'm nervous enough and can't figure out how to get ahold of my friend who lives like 35 min or so outside of london...i'm going to be a nervous wreck all day

Related to the Olympic bid?
Unlikely. Coordinated attacks such as this require significant planning. The Olympic decision was a surprise since Paris was the favorite and occurred only yesterday. On the other hand, the G8 meeting had been planned for well over a year, providing the opportunity for the necessary planning.

Do you think that maybe they could have set it up in each city that was up for the bid?

Its not Olympic related, an al-qaida group already claims responsibility. Though I have my suspicions that it was France.

http://www.comcast.net/news/index.jsp?cat=GENERAL&fn=/2005/07/07/172833.html

This article says only 2 dead, but I heard on the radio that the death toll is almost 200. I think the subway bombs killed a lot of people.

Oh yeah and Morgan, don't worry, I'm sure Gainsville is far down on the terrorist's list of places to bomb. I wouldn't let it get to you.

why wont they leave people alone!

HATE…no other reason

this shit makes me sooooo scared.

Morgan, that’s a normal reaction but remember that (if it is terrorist which it seems it is) that’s exactly what they want.

I wonder if terrorist have now taught a leasson to everyone who wants to get their way...

"Kill enough people and governments will be in your hand"

HATE…no other reason



Morgan, that’s a normal reaction but remember that (if it is terrorist which it seems it is) that’s exactly what they want.

I wonder if terrorist have now taught a leasson to everyone who wants to get their way...

"Kill enough people and governments will be in your hand"


think...Spain.

:(

:-/

YES....Spain, so sad...so cowardly...so pitiful..

Vancouver won an olympic bid and nothing happened...

I think this has more to do with Britain's involvment in Iraq / Afghanistan...

EDIT: duh, it even says that in the article...guess I should learn to read! :o

I went straight from in shock to pissed off. I'm not scared for myself personally, but i'm sure the hell scared for my friend and his family in Wessex. He takes the trains into London and works at BankSuisse. He's got a wife and 3 kids at home. We've emailed both his addresses in hopes that he's ok.


Edit: If anyone of you are Active Directory Design nerds, you've probably got one of his books in your posession. Neil Ruston, I'm praying for you and yours.

these muslim arab terrorists need to be defeated and hard hands be brought upon them. i came from the most populous muslim country in the world and more or less i know their attitude. where are all those so called moderate muslims to step forward and condemn these animals.

WARNING : contain gore scenes
madrid bombing victims

http://www.ogrish.com/arc
hives/exclusive_aftermath_scenes_from_train_bombing_in_m adrid_march_11_Oct_21_2004.html

GO President BUSH and ALLIES !!!!

holy crap some of those pictures are scary...

how people forget the IRA bombings in London it was a way of life but then who funded them?

today london is quite to say the least, but i am back up here working today. my girlfriend did not make it home last night as she works about 100 yards for Edgeware Road where one of the blasts happened she was then asked to arrange accomodation inthe city for 160 people at her bank! wich she did.

People seem to forget that london is used to attacks in the 80's and 90s there wher too many! my father worked a few mins form a Baltic Exchnage when the bomb detroyed the entire street and blew windows out all around including his office luckerly he was on in his office at the time but in the working area otherwise he could of been hurt!

just a few year ago the IRA fired a RPG at the MI6 building (a stunning building)wich thankfull due to it amour bloke a pane of glass and bounced off exploding on a roof! Undoublebly pissing the spooks off inside as it took out a large flower pot! But we live with it

Anyone who has been to London would have notice the ammout of BMW5 series stuffed with machine gun wielding coppers (our normal bobbies dont carry guns) these are every where so they stand a good chance of catching the scum add to that the fact the City has more CCTV than any other in the world fingers crossed soo the peolpe who did this will be in the vault under thames house undergoing extereme pain!

how people forget the IRA bombings in London it was a way of life but then who funded them?
That's what I like to know too. On St. Patricks day there was actually a former IRA guy marching in Boston, MA - I forgot his name though. (I wonder whether some Al Quaida guy could do some official marching in a muslim country as well?)


YES....Spain, so sad...so cowardly...so pitiful..
Actually the conservatives lost that election because they blamed the Madrid attacks on ETA. Would you want to elect a government that's hiding the truth for political purposes? I don't know but I certainly want a government that is going after the 'right' guys.



It also looks like that Al Qaida killed more muslims than anything else, so I doubt they get much support in muslim countries anyway.

Actually the (Spanish) conservatives lost that election because they blamed the Madrid attacks on ETA. Would you want to elect a government that's hiding the truth for political purposes? I don't know but I certainly want a government that is going after the 'right' guys.
You're correct, of course. The simplistic notion that the Spanish government was defeated as a result of voters' fear of Al Qaeda after the Madrid bombings is ludicrous. In fact, the voters turned out the incumbents as a result of the government's (a) inability to protect the country from the attack and (b) lying about the source of the attack when it knew better.

Unfortunately, not all nations respond in such a rational manner to failures of their governments.

You're correct, of course. The simplistic notion that the Spanish government was defeated as a result of voters' fear of Al Qaeda after the Madrid bombings is ludicrous. In fact, the voters turned out the incumbents as a result of the government's (a) inability to protect the country from the attack and (b) lying about the source of the attack when it knew better.

Unfortunately, not all nations respond in such a rational manner to failures of their governments.

Except that's not what happened - but never let facts get in the way of precoceived ideas and what you hear from the LMM.

(shrug).


The government didn't lie to the people of spain - the Far Left Media lied to the people of spain, pushing their Pro-Socialist values. Basically, Terrorists wanted to 'punish' Spain for it's involvment in the war on Terror. They called Spain's bluf, and the wussified Media started creating fiction to push for their candidates. The People of spain believed them. Sucks for spain.

"(The Liberal Media in Spain) made it seem like the conservative government had something to hide and was falsely blaming ETA terrorists. Of course that was not true. The conservative government was pointing to Islamic terrorists on the very first night of the attack. But the damage was done and the hysterical, lying Spanish media managed to swing an election that was going for the conservatives over to the socialists all in a matter of three days. The polls moved more than 10 points toward the socialists in a three day period. Al Qaeda managed to blast the Spanish into an irrational state of fear from which they have yet to recover. There are a lot of interesting details concerning this case of serendipitous cooperation between the Spanish media and Al Qaeda. Be that as it may, the Spanish electorate collapsed in fear before the terrorists; it was disgusting and Spaniards should be ashamed, but they are not."

Bizarre revisionist history so soon after the fact. Care to cite the source of your quotation?

From Wikipedia...among many sources...

"...The socialists received more votes than expected probably as a result of the government's handling of the 11 March 2004 Madrid train bombings (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/11_March_2004_Madrid_train_bombings). In the early moments following the attacks, the national government maintained the theory of the ETA responsibility, when evidence pointed to the possibility that an Islamic extremist group was behind the massacre the ETA theory lost weight."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spanish_general_election,_2004

"MADRID, March 16 -- In the first frantic hours after coordinated bomb blasts ripped through several packed commuter trains Thursday morning, the government of outgoing Prime Minister Jose Maria Aznar undertook an intense campaign to convince the Spanish public and world opinion-makers that the Basque separatist group ETA had carried out the attacks, which killed 201 people and wounded more than 1,500.

Beginning immediately after the blasts, Aznar and other officials telephoned journalists, stressing ETA's responsibility and dismissing speculation that Islamic extremists might be involved. Spanish diplomats pushed a hastily drafted resolution blaming ETA through the U.N. Security Council. At an afternoon news conference, when a reporter suggested the possibility of an al Qaeda connection, the interior minister, Angel Acebes, angrily denounced it as "a miserable attempt to disrupt information and confuse people."

"There is no doubt that ETA is responsible," Acebes said.

Within days, that assertion was in tatters, and with it the reputation and fortunes of the ruling party. Suspicion that the government manipulated information -- blaming ETA in order to divert any possible link between the bombings and Aznar's unpopular support for the war in Iraq -- helped fuel the upset victory of the Socialist Workers' Party in Sunday's elections. By then, Islamic extremists linked to al Qaeda had become the focus of the investigation..."


http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn/A64633-2004Mar16?language=printer

Bizarre revisionist history so soon after the fact. Care to cite the source of your quotation?



Sure. Friend of mine who (here's a concept) actually researched what happened - didn't take the Liberal Talking Points Memo as gospel.

Sure. Friend of mine who (here's a concept) actually researched what happened - didn't take the Liberal Talking Points Memo as gospel.
Oh, a "friend of yours." Well, that certainly trumps the BBC, virtually every analysis of the election by media in Europe and the North America...Jeez...

Oh, a "friend of yours." Well, that certainly trumps the BBC, virtually every analysis of the election by media in Europe and the North America...Jeez...


lol...BBC? wow. Reasonable people would put more faith in the objectivity of David Duke at a civil rights trial, than believe the BBC's coverage of what 'happened'. I'll link you to hard evidence...but you'll read it, decide it conflicts with your 'opinion' and find a stupid way to dismiss it. Perhaps the sentence structure won't be correct, or the information is more than, what's your standard? 6 weeks? old.

(shrug)

you know what they say 'is bliss'...

lol...BBC? wow. Reasonable people would put more faith in the objectivity of David Duke at a civil rights trial, than believe the BBC's coverage of what 'happened'. I'll link you to hard evidence...but you'll read it, decide it conflicts with your 'opinion' and find a stupid way to dismiss it. Perhaps the sentence structure won't be correct, or the information is more than, what's your standard? 6 weeks? old.

(shrug)

you know what they say 'is bliss'...
Tell you what. Why don't you start with the direct quotations from the Spanish government. When you've found a way to refute them, we can talk. (See above.)

Christ would you two knock it off??? :mad: People died and you two disrespectful fucks are too busy bickering to realize that this belongs someplace else. Take it to PMs or start another thread if you want to fight like children. This thread is about the bombing in England, the aftermath, and its effects on the people. Not for you two pseudo-intellectuals to argue that the left wing did this and the right wing did that and blah, blah, blah, blah, fucking blah.

People died. Show some respect. :mad: :(

Good to see that Faux News lived (down) to its usual standards in its coverage of the London bombings. Brit Hume, famous for his misquoting of FDR on the issue of Social Security, had this to say yesterday about the bombings...

SMITH: Some of the things you might expect to happen, for instance, a drop in the stock market and some degree of uncertainty across this country -- none of that really seen today, and I wonder if the timing of it -- that it happened in the middle of the night and we were able to get a sense of the grander scheme of things -- wasn't helpful in all this.

HUME: Well, maybe. The other thing is, of course, people have -- you know, the market was down. It was down yesterday, and you know, you may have had some bargain-hunting going on. I mean, my first thought when I heard -- just on a personal basis, when I heard there had been this attack and I saw the futures this morning, which were really in the tank, I thought, "Hmmm, time to buy."

Wonder how many Faux viewers "first thought" of the investment opportunities engendered by the bomb attack?

holy crap some of those pictures are scary...


Come to klegg...I will cuddle you and make it all better.... ;) :D

Christ would you two knock it off??? :mad: People died and you two disrespectful fucks are too busy bickering to realize that this belongs someplace else. ...
Point well taken.

Just found out my friend and his family were unscathed.
I'm very relieved, but still very sad for all the folks who weren't so lucky.