Lots of question marks at the end, since this episode of the story is just breaking today and probably won't get much traction before the long weekend is over, so the real facts (and whether they confirm or contradict what has been previously suspected about Rove's role in the Plame affair) may take a while to bubble up to the surface and be confirmed. Still, it's interesting to follow:

http://www.editorandpublisher.com/eandp/news/article_display.jsp?vnu_content_id=1000972841

And what good is a story without illustrations?

Good find. It'll be interesting to see how this will play out.

Could this be an image in next week's papers?

http://s106901429.onlinehome.us/hr/ROVE.jpg

;)

^we can only hope :D

Although we all knew it, this makes me so happy I could cry. Is he "above the law"? I guess we will see.

I predict a presidential pardon will occur, if this story is true. :D

I predict a presidential pardon will occur, if this story is true. :D

Probably so. Even at that, we're some distance from getting confirmation that the story is true. I'm sure that a bunch of lawyers in the Beltway had to give up their holiday weekends to scour the e-mails and other documents that TIME turned over. (God, how I hate e-mail strings--500 pages of paper that just repeat what the other 499 said, but with one extra line at the end of each one.)

Either way, it does seem that the leak could only have come from somewhere in the White House, whether Rove or not, and it is serious--a federal crime--and has had some dire consequences (apparently, a number of Plame's foreign contacts have been "offed" because of it). I'll just chant the usual "let's see where the facts take us." Kind of like following the Yellow Brick Road.

have fun at a POUND ME IN THE ASS prison shithead

for more laughs :D:

http://dangerousdan.us/images/rove2.jpg

have fun at a POUND ME IN THE ASS prison shithead
How do you know you'll be in the same cell block as him? Nice of you to offer though.

How do you know you'll be in the same cell block as him? Nice of you to offer though.

oh doc...u so funny :rolleyes:

The Intelligence Identities Protection Act, 50 U.S.C. 421:
"Whoever, having or having had authorized access to classified information that identifies a covert agent, intentionally discloses any information identifying such covert agent to any individual not authorized to receive classified information, knowing that the information disclosed so identifies such covert agent and that the United States is taking affirmative measures to conceal such covert agent's intelligence relationship to the United States, shall be fined under title 18 or imprisoned not more than ten years, or both."

Don't drop the soap, Karl!

This is fun!

I predict a presidential pardon will occur, if this story is true. :D


I actually think you are right. But I also think there will be violance in the streets if he does, which is tragic.

I'm not sure you can give a presidential pardon for treason...let me find the law

The propaganda minister is a slippery character, but it looks like we're closing in. Who will be next?

It would be dangerous for America to send Karl off to the pokey. What brainpower would be left at 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue?

The propaganda minister is a slippery character, but it looks like we're closing in. Who will be next?

I've got $5 on conservative mouthpiece and "Douchebag of Liberty" Bob Novak. Anybody care to make this interesting? Mr. Bennett, am I to rich for your blood.

Jud

The propaganda minister is a slippery character, but it looks like we're closing in. Who will be next?

So many choices, so little time.

I've got $5 on conservative mouthpiece and "Douchebag of Liberty" Bob Novak. Anybody care to make this interesting? Mr. Bennett, am I to rich for your blood.

Jud What I find odd about this entire case is the lack of attention paid to Novak, himself, the columnist who actually identified Ms. Plame. Instead, there has been great focus on other journalists who did not.

What I find odd about this entire case is the lack of attention paid to Novak, himself, the columnist who actually identified Ms. Plame. Instead, there has been great focus on other journalists who did not.

I suspect that there's been a lot of C.Y.A. work going on behind the scenes, by Novak and others. Very curious indeed.

I think Novak should be held accountable. After all, we KNOW who he is. Without his column, there would be no controversy. I personally don't think the First Amendment should protect him.

It just seems to me that public distribution of that information should be a criminal offense too. If it isn't specifically prohibited, then it should be.

You may now proceed to flame me.

I think Novak should be held accountable. After all, we KNOW who he is. Without his column, there would be no controversy. I personally don't think the First Amendment should protect him.

It just seems to me that public distribution of that information should be a criminal offense too. If it isn't specifically prohibited, then it should be.

You may now proceed to flame me. Uh, sorry Doc. Once again, you've managed to twist the issue into a pretzel. In a case dating back about 30+ years, the Supreme Court found that you can't punish the news media for reporting the breaking of the law by the executive branch. That was the Pentagon Papers case.

The lawbreaker in this case is not Mr. Novak, scum though he certainly is for this among many other actions, but the source who outed Ms. Plame.

Nice try, however, for the attempt to shift the attention from Mr. Rove and his masters to someone outside the administration.

The times, they are a'changin'. ;)

I think Novak should be held accountable. After all, we KNOW who he is. Without his column, there would be no controversy. I personally don't think the First Amendment should protect him.

It just seems to me that public distribution of that information should be a criminal offense too. If it isn't specifically prohibited, then it should be.

You may now proceed to flame me.


I would love to nail novak too, but we really can not. Freedom of the press is a keystone of democracy. It does fall into a bit of a grey area, at least for me, because this was not a report about illegal activity. It was a direct outing of an intellagence asset.

WHole thing sucks. Hey, anyone see "bushs brain"? (the movie, not the actual peanut sized node). Is it worth a view, they have it on cable this month.

Freedom of the press is a keystone of democracy.

Freedom and democracy are not one in the same... in fact they are completely unrelated.

You are making the same pitfall that George Bush always makes... conflating freedom and democracy.

In fact, one of the reasons this country is so free, is because it's NOT strictly a democracy.

Gee. Somehow or other I find myself agreeing with both Doc and jsh1138. (The only thing that has kept my brain from initializing the emergency auto-descruct sequence is the transparent insincerity of Doc's statement.) Though I'd love to see Bob breaking rocks, it's probably not a good idea.

Novak is a vile toad of a man. And so is Karl. Maybe they could share a cell.

Freedom and democracy are not one in the same... in fact they are completely unrelated.

You are making the same pitfall that George Bush always makes... conflating freedom and democracy.

In fact, one of the reasons this country is so free, is because it's NOT strictly a democracy.


You are right. I should have said "Freedom of the press is a cornerstone of the american way of life.."

Gee. Somehow or other I find myself agreeing with both Doc and jsh1138. (The only thing that has kept my brain from initializing the emergency auto-descruct sequence is the transparent insincerity of Doc's statement.) Though I'd love to see Bob breaking rocks, it's probably not a good idea.

Novak is a vile toad of a man. And so is Karl. Maybe they could share a cell.
Uh...I think you meant jsh1120 or THX1138. We're not one and the same. :)

Uh...I think you meant jsh1120 or THX1138. We're not one and the same. :)


LOL. weird movie. Silver faced cops. But full frontal, which matter when I was a teen...

Whichever.

This has renewed my suspicion that one of you created the other.

Which one is the evil genius?

Uh...I think you meant jsh1120 or THX1138. We're not one and the same. :)

Whichever.

This has renewed my suspicion that one of you created the other.

Which one is the evil genius?
Well, Lucas was the genius. I'm flattered to be confused with Robert Duvall. And as long as we've strayed so far off topic, what was Bob Falfa's license plate on the Deuce Coupe in American Grafitti?

Well, Lucas was the genius. I'm flattered to be confused with Robert Duvall. And as long as we've strayed so far off topic, what was Bob Falfa's license plate on the Deuce Coupe in American Grafitti?

Bob Falfa's, or John Milner's? I ask since I seem to recall that Milner's hot rod had "THX 131" as its plate. Not too far from reality at that point in the progression of California license plates. (I recall that our '58 Chevy station wagon had "PKL 181" as its plate. God forbid if I ever remember what plate our '64 Rambler had a couple of years after the movie was supposed to take place. All I can remember is that, nine years later, in the same year the movie actually premiered, I was driving the Rambler one night when the entire horn assembly exploded off the steering wheel and ended up in my lap. No, I was driving alone, so don't let your collective imagines run away with themselves. :D :p )

Back on subject, I thought this was quite interesting. Something may really be going on here. Probably not as much as some would hope, but I think King Karl's lawyer is working a little overtime this week:

http://www.editorandpublisher.com/eandp/columns/shoptalk_display.jsp?vnu_content_id=1000973352