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crimson-rain
06-07-2005, 03:08 PM
Ok everybody, there is a moster of a car coming soon to make it's world wide debut and there isn't a suby or Evo that can touch it.

But, in the midst of it all I'm wondering what everyone thinks about this "mystery car". There have been various photos on the net of a G35 with flared fenders and e- looongated rear bumper on the Nurburing. There has been a concept vehicle shown a LOOOOONG time ago at the Tokyo Auto Salon. But no one has shown a production model yet. It seems to me that considering the time it is coming out, supposedly in 2006 as a 2007 model Infiniti ( :mad: ), that it would have been shown at some auto show by now. I haven't found a confirmation of the engine (VQ30TT, VQ36TT, VQ45TT, VQdamnfastTT, etc.) either. I did find out that it will be AWD using an upgraded version of ALTESSA. It also won't have the HICCAS steering trick (don't much about this system but supposedly it uses all 4 wheels to turn the car).

Anyway, this car is GOING to be sick.

Would do you all think of the return of a car that pretty much represents Japan when it comes to performance cars?

zoom44
06-07-2005, 03:12 PM
i dont care:)

Mugatu
06-07-2005, 03:12 PM
hard to say something about a car in which no one know what it looks like, what engine it will have, and any specs/numbers it can produce.

that's like asking what we think of the new Supra.

BlueEyes
06-07-2005, 03:13 PM
I think it's pretty funny that you claim that there is no "suby or Evo that can touch it" when you know nothing about the car. Sounds like something a fanbois would do.

XDEEDUBBX
06-07-2005, 03:19 PM
The 2009 RX8 will come with 452hp with 400lb of torque...sorry but no pics...hahaha thats all the info i have..hahaha

JanSolo
06-07-2005, 03:39 PM
Here is some info from GTR Forums.

http://forums.gtrforums.com/showthread.php?t=12


From Autoweek:
Meanwhile the car Nissan chief Carlos Ghosn has promised in time for the 2007 Tokyo motor show - the Skyline GT-R - appears to be running through its paces in the form of a super-powered, special-bodied Infiniti G35 Coupe. The all-wheel-drive Skyline will be powered by a 450hp, twin-turbocharged V6 engine, with suspension tuned by Lotus engineers.

Other sources:

2005 GT-R Concept
source: REZZ

After 3 solid years of speculation, CG concepts by Nissan design teams – not to mention the plethora of CG images produced by Nissan fans - we will get the final word from Nissan boss Carlos Ghosn regarding the Next GT-R. The 39th Tokyo Motor Show (Oct 19 – Nov 6, 2005) will be the venue where all the speculation and rumors stop when the 2005 GT-R Concept vehicle is uncovered.

Without a doubt the main feature at the 39th Tokyo Motor Show will be the Next GT-R. No other single vehicle has caused as much hype amongst the international Nissan fan base as this car. Nissan have been watching the international reaction to various rumors, spy photos, concept drawings and the like, and will take it upon themselves to officially state the Next GT-R’s design, new components and capabilities, aim of the car, and price. Nissan may even answer the question that’s confused a number of enthusiasts up until now: the chassis designation. Whether it’s UA-CPV35 GT-R, or due to the ’07 release date, UA-CPV36 GT-R, or another chassis code altogether, Nissan will need to explain why, if the GT-R is to drop it’s connection with the Skyline, would they need to incorporate the Skyline’s traditional four round tail lights.

Sources in Japan have already scooped the Next GT-R’s FR transaxle, twin motor-assisted turbos and ‘e-4WD’ – drive to the front wheels provided by electric motors powered by Lithium batteries. All these mechanisms are unique to the Next GT-R and will lead the way for other car manufacturers to make use of such technological advances in their own vehicle line-ups. One hotly contested feature of the Next GT-R is it’s rumored engine, the VQ32DETT. International speculation has sprouted all sorts of configurations: N/A and turbo V8’s, large capacity V6’s, even rebirth of the legendary RB26DETT. But no other engine configuration has been quoted more times in Japan than the 3.2 liter V6 twin turbo.

The rumored VQ32DETT engine has been developed in conjunction with Cosworth (UK) and the basic design of the V6 twin turbo – in 3.0 liter guise - has seen two full seasons already in the Japanese JGTC (Japan GT Championship) racing series, which VQ powered cars have won consecutively in the last two years. The rigors of JGTC racing and advances in turbo design should put to rest any doubts about a twin turbo V6 configuration not being able to withstand the treatment expected from a US market not familiar with a top level performance turbo offering from Nissan. The concern over how the US market would receive a medium capacity V6 turbo powered GT car from Nissan has brought forth all kinds of rumored engine configurations, none of which have had any mention within the Japanese media for at least two years. It seems practically all the rumors regarding engines other than the VQ32DETT have originated from the very market that is concerned about the reliability of a turbo V6 powered GT car from Nissan (or in the North American market, Infiniti) as opposed to the supposedly better reliability a larger capacity naturally aspirated engine of similar output could offer.

Much importance has been placed on the effective use of underbody aerodynamics, as well as keeping a clean, muscular shape devoid of any large spoilers which were such a signature of the superseded R34 Skyline GT-R. 20-inch alloy wheels and a mix of carbon fiber (bonnet, seat frames, drive shafts, rear diffusers) and aluminum (roof, door panels, rear tailgate) will also feature on a car that is every bit as exotic as it is technologically advanced. The disappointment felt by Japanese Nissan enthusiasts about the controversial tail lights of the V35 Skyline Sedan upon it’s release back in 2001 – no trademark circular lights or ‘hotplates’ – has seen Nissan make a complete about face… even releasing the V35 Skyline Sedan Series II with circular LED arrays to try and convince the Japanese domestic market that they haven’t forsaken the Skyline heritage. What this means is that despite the multitude of CG images gracing the internet and magazines all sporting slightly weak attempts at ‘hotplate’ tail light designs, the Next GT-R will definitely include the four round tail lights that have become the defining feature of the GT-R since the early 1970’s… even though Carlos Ghosn has hinted that the Next GT-R won’t be associated with the Skyline range anymore.

The motto of the Next GT-R that has been thrown around more than a few times amongst the Japanese media is ‘More Super-Sports than you can imagine’. You can be sure that Nissan won’t disappoint this time around, as so many Nissan enthusiasts in Japan have expressed their disapproval of the 2001 Tokyo Motor Show Concept GT-R. Look for more details to come to light as October approaches straight from Japan… so it certainly will be an exciting year for GT-R enthusiasts the world over. Expect to see the Next GT-R released in December 2007.

crimson-rain
06-07-2005, 03:49 PM
My bad folks. Flame on!!!!!!!!!

Maybe I should rephase this question:
Speculated info -
Getrag 7-spd sequential gearbox
3.2L Twin Turbo(electric-assisted)
expected output: 480ps @ 7,200rpm

some article:
http://www.edmunds.com/future/2007/infiniti/gtr/100486033/preview.html?tid=edmunds.h..future..3.*

pic:
http://www.edmunds.com/future/2007/infiniti/gtr/100486033/photos.html

Oh well, I figured I would "speculate" since we've all "speculated" about the new RX-7 and the MS RX-8 and other cars they could race and what they would compare to .......

As far as Evo and Suby touching the Skyline; they haven't made any to touch the current Skylines. Fanbois? Yes. The car is technically and visually beautiful IMO.

JanSolo
06-07-2005, 03:49 PM
Right now, if you have 170k spare and get on the waiting list, you can get yourself a GTR34 Z Tune.

http://www.caranddriver.com/article.asp?section_id=31&article_id=9092&page_number=1

Unveiled at the Tokyo Auto Salon this week, the 500hp GT-R Z-tune is not only the most powerful GT-R ever, but at $170,000, it’s also the most expensive. Why did they make it? Simple. To show what's possible. And when we hinted at any relation to the next generation GT-R due in 2007, Nismo staffers started sucking through their teeth and looking skywards. One thing is for sure. The 2007 GT-R's sticker price will be around half that of the Z-tune but pump out nearly as much power. Leaning heavily on 15 years of racing experience with the R-32, R-33 and R-34 GT-R’s, Nismo engineers have created the mother of all GT-R’s.

crimson-rain
06-07-2005, 03:50 PM
Thanks JanSolo.

khtm
06-07-2005, 03:52 PM
Wonder how heavy it will be, being AWD and all...

crimson-rain
06-07-2005, 03:55 PM
Z-tuned R34. 10 sec production car. JGTC spec engine and it IS totally streetable. Sports Compact did an article on it. It was fittingly called "King".

crimson-rain
06-07-2005, 03:58 PM
Wonder how heavy it will be, being AWD and all...

I think they said there would be a lot of carbon fiber composites used for the body. I wouldn't be surprised. The R34 is no lightweight, but its weight is placed in all the right spots.

crimson-rain
06-07-2005, 03:59 PM
Wonder how heavy it will be, being AWD and all...

I think they said there would be a lot of carbon fiber composites used for the body. I wouldn't be surprised if it's still kind of heavy though. The R34 is no lightweight, but its weight is placed in all the right spots.

BlueEyes
06-07-2005, 04:08 PM
From the readings posted, this sounds like it will be in corvette price range. That's just the feeling I get, with mention of cf and whatnot. If that is the case, I wouldn't expect cars half the price to compete. Im looking forward to it anyhow. I like some of those concepts posted in the forum link, especially this one, although it kinda looks like that new audi super car.
http://www.skyline-forums.com/images/r35pics/gtr25.jpg

GotBass
06-07-2005, 04:13 PM
here are some pics. I guy I know sells infinitis and he said theat the rumor is that it will be around $70,000.

http://www.autoweek.com/article.cms?articleId=102460

BlueEyes
06-07-2005, 04:13 PM
also, i didnt see any mention of the awd system. I hope it is along the lines of the STi's, that is, adjustable. IIRC correctly you can split the STi power to 10/90 F/R, maybe i just made that up, i don't know, either way I want manual adjustments.

BlueEyes
06-07-2005, 04:15 PM
here are some pics. I guy I know sells infinitis and he said theat the rumor is that it will be around $70,000.
http://www.autoweek.com/article.cms?articleId=102460
See, I couldn't see myself paying 70K for something that looks like that. it's a G35 with a wing, nothing special. I would hope they would be a bit more aggresive with their styling, it's supposed to be a muscular car, that says girlie man to me.

JanSolo
06-07-2005, 04:34 PM
also, i didnt see any mention of the awd system. I hope it is along the lines of the STi's, that is, adjustable. IIRC correctly you can split the STi power to 10/90 F/R, maybe i just made that up, i don't know, either way I want manual adjustments.

DCCD on the STi is a clone of AYC/ACD from the Evo. But, lucky 05 Evo owners get ACD, whereas no one in the states get AYC whatsoever. :( Subaru even copied Mitsu creating the vortex generator on the Evo MR by creating something similar on the 06 STi.

Sorry for being off topic.

So much speculation and very few facts on the new Skyline. It's almost as bad as all the hype surrounding the theoretical release of the RX7, which we have even less info about.

Kel Rx8
06-07-2005, 05:02 PM
infinity cars loose value quick. :)

m477
06-07-2005, 05:03 PM
There's gonna be a LOT of dissapointed fanboys when the finally do announce it. The whole GT-R mystique is based on 3 things:

1) It was so much faster than everything else when it came back (in 1989)
2) The RB26DETT could be modified to make huge huge HP (although it took tens of thousands of dollars)
3) It was JDM-only

As for 1), the competition is so much higher these days. In fact, I'll bet that the Evo 9 will beat the new GT-R in most performance categories.

Then, the aluminum-block V-6 isn't going to have the mod potential of the old cast-iron I-6, so 2) won't be true anymore.

cretinx
06-07-2005, 05:12 PM
also, i didnt see any mention of the awd system. I hope it is along the lines of the STi's, that is, adjustable. IIRC correctly you can split the STi power to 10/90 F/R, maybe i just made that up, i don't know, either way I want manual adjustments.

skylines have always used electronic AWD that starts out 90 rear/10 front and can distribute up to 65 rear/35 front for enhanced traction, but always a RWD bias.

khtm
06-07-2005, 05:29 PM
See, I couldn't see myself paying 70K for something that looks like that. it's a G35 with a wing, nothing special. I would hope they would be a bit more aggresive with their styling, it's supposed to be a muscular car, that says girlie man to me.
^ what he said.

Thetitanium8
06-07-2005, 05:40 PM
I would still rather have TT supra :D

shaolin
06-07-2005, 06:46 PM
hey knucklehead, it's ATTESA-ETS

Advanced Total Traction Engineering System for All - Electronic Torque Split

Fanman
06-07-2005, 08:25 PM
Can't see paying 2X the price of the G35 for essentially a G35 on steroids. No matter how much hp it has. The Z tune even though it is rated close to this model is WAY, WAY underrated. No way you are running 10.6's with ONLY 500-550 hp.

BlueEyes
06-07-2005, 08:41 PM
If it looks like that red one on the mag cover, I would be a happy camper. It looks like 70K

Steiner
06-07-2005, 08:46 PM
I wonder what Infinity/Nissan will call it...the G35-R? I think it has to be in the price range of the new M3 ($55k-$65k) if anybody is going to buy it. It's only been very recently that Infinity sales have taken off. IIRC they're growing at a much bigger clip than Lexus, Acura, MB, BMW or any of the other luxury lines. Now that they have been officially accepted as a bonafied luxury brand in the USDM, they need to start targeting other luxury high performers...

PPen131
06-07-2005, 08:55 PM
i doubt it will make as much power as the new z06

Ike
06-07-2005, 09:30 PM
I wonder what Infinity/Nissan will call it...the G35-R? I think it has to be in the price range of the new M3 ($55k-$65k) if anybody is going to buy it. It's only been very recently that Infinity sales have taken off. IIRC they're growing at a much bigger clip than Lexus, Acura, MB, BMW or any of the other luxury lines. Now that they have been officially accepted as a bonafied luxury brand in the USDM, they need to start targeting other luxury high performers...

I think it's just going to be GT-R, but that's just a guess. I don't think in this case just outperforming the M cars is going to be enough, and I also think it's going to have to outperform the new Z06 to be any sort of success. Today it's bang for the buck that matters most, the RX-8 is a perfect example of that... It handles great, it's got great balance, it's a lot of car for the moeny, and very few are buying it because there are a good amount of cheaper cars that will take it in a straight line.

The new GT-R is also going to have to take well to mods which many performance oriented car buyers look at. It doesn't take much to get an Evo or STi into the 11s and people will look at that when trying to justify the price if they're buying the car for mostly performance reasons.

jaguargod
06-07-2005, 10:24 PM
I like the yellow Toyota, the 11th car photo down. Does it look familiar to anyone else?

BlueEyes
06-07-2005, 10:28 PM
front looks like a CGT to me

Steiner
06-07-2005, 10:37 PM
The new GT-R is also going to have to take well to mods which many performance oriented car buyers look at. It doesn't take much to get an Evo or STi into the 11s and people will look at that when trying to justify the price if they're buying the car for mostly performance reasons. Do people who buy $60k+ luxury performers modify their rides? Maybe. I've never really thought about it. Just the same I would think it should be a totally different demographic than the Evo/STi crowd just on price alone. You could buy 2 Evos with the money spent on a new Skyline. If anything they won't be typical Infinity owners buying up these Skylines.

I would definately consider one if I'm having a good year (or had a couple good years and I can somehow through the grace of God convince my wife it's a good purchase :cool: ). I've always loved the M3, the Vette and some of the other RWD sports cars, but after owning an AWD drive car I'll forever be impartial to this platform. I can't wait to see the peformance numbers and the official MSRP. This thing sounds like a beast.

BlueEyes
06-07-2005, 10:42 PM
I would think people would mod these. I mean, people mod the crap out of 911's and vettes, why not this

StealthFox
06-07-2005, 11:34 PM
Z-tuned R34. 10 sec production car. JGTC spec engine and it IS totally streetable. Sports Compact did an article on it. It was fittingly called "King".

yeah i saw that and bought it just for the article. i love skylines almost as much as rotaries

StealthFox
06-07-2005, 11:40 PM
I think it's just going to be GT-R, but that's just a guess. I don't think in this case just outperforming the M cars is going to be enough, and I also think it's going to have to outperform the new Z06 to be any sort of success. Today it's bang for the buck that matters most, the RX-8 is a perfect example of that... It handles great, it's got great balance, it's a lot of car for the moeny, and very few are buying it because there are a good amount of cheaper cars that will take it in a straight line.

The new GT-R is also going to have to take well to mods which many performance oriented car buyers look at. It doesn't take much to get an Evo or STi into the 11s and people will look at that when trying to justify the price if they're buying the car for mostly performance reasons.

1. the GTR will never outgun the Z06, it will be miles behind it, the power/weight of the upcoming c6 z06 will be very high, and the G35 is a heavy car thats not a sporty aluminum framed muscle

2. the vq doesn't take well to mods, FI is hard as the guts are weak and need to be replaced, unless they stick something different in it(unlikely as nissan likes to stick the VQ in everything from their entire SUV line to the sedan line to the sports car because they're cheap asses)

Ike
06-08-2005, 12:05 AM
1. the GTR will never outgun the Z06, it will be miles behind it, the power/weight of the upcoming c6 z06 will be very high, and the G35 is a heavy car thats not a sporty aluminum framed muscle

2. the vq doesn't take well to mods, FI is hard as the guts are weak and need to be replaced, unless they stick something different in it(unlikely as nissan likes to stick the VQ in everything from their entire SUV line to the sedan line to the sports car because they're cheap asses)

Many N/A engines don't take well to FI without major engine upgrades if you want them to be reliable. However the new GT-R VQ will already be FI so odds are it will be easy to get more power.

crimson-rain
06-08-2005, 08:18 AM
Many N/A engines don't take well to FI without major engine upgrades if you want them to be reliable. However the new GT-R VQ will already be FI so odds are it will be easy to get more power.

Ditto. But I hope the new engine will be as strong as the RB26DETT. From what I understand, all you have to do is turn up the boost. No modding. Just turn up the boost to a certain extent of course.

1. the GTR will never outgun the Z06, it will be miles behind it, the power/weight of the upcoming c6 z06 will be very high, and the G35 is a heavy car thats not a sporty aluminum framed muscle

They are going to HAVE to out class the new Z06. If they don't, they know it won't be considered a Skyline by ANY means. The R34 in stock trim can run down and keep up with cars with way more hp than it in track situations. Check out Best Motoring vids. They had a race with the current Z06 (not the new one), an NSX, an EVO 7, a Porshe 959??? (AWD and TT), Ferrari 360 Modena, and an R34. All stock. The ONLY car that beat it was the Porshe. Shocked the crap out of me because that Porshe and Ferrari were packing 400-450hp. And R34 had to the heaviest out there too. If R34 does this stock, then the R35 will have to be made geater.

m477
06-08-2005, 11:53 AM
One single race in Best Motoring doesn't prove anything. There was also one race where an S2000 finished in front of an Elise, does that mean the S2000 is better than the Elise?

Again, this isn't 1989 anymore, the glory days of the R32 are long gone. The G35x weighs like 3700lbs, which means it would need at least 600hp just to keep up with a C6 Z06 in a straight line, never mind how poorly it will turn or brake with all that extra heft.

Japan8
06-08-2005, 01:04 PM
Who said it's going to be a G35? Is the new mustang a Thunderbird? Was the last mustang in its final years a Fairmont? Nope. Just because Nissan is taking that platform as the starting point doesn't mean that it will so closely resemble it in the end. I'd wait and see what comes.

snizzle
06-08-2005, 02:52 PM
Just because Nissan is taking that platform as the starting point doesn't mean that it will so closely resemble it in the end. I'd wait and see what comes.

No it doesn't mean that, but it's certainly the trend in the auto industry. Nobody wants to spend the time/money associated with a ground up platform that will underpin just one car.

However, this would be the car to do it with since it's seen as a legend among many auto enthusiasts.

Red Devil
06-08-2005, 03:27 PM
I don't see why a new Skyline would have to outdo the new Z06. That's a pretty tall order if we're speculating the price being at or below the Z06. If they get the car to be as good as the Z06, that should be enough.

Some specs and technical on the new Z06:
http://www.corvettemuseum.com/specs/2006/

crimson-rain
06-08-2005, 03:33 PM
One single race in Best Motoring doesn't prove anything. There was also one race where an S2000 finished in front of an Elise, does that mean the S2000 is better than the Elise?

Again, this isn't 1989 anymore, the glory days of the R32 are long gone. The G35x weighs like 3700lbs, which means it would need at least 600hp just to keep up with a C6 Z06 in a straight line, never mind how poorly it will turn or brake with all that extra heft.

Actually Best Motoring has the tendency to put a Skyline in most of there races. The EVO vs STi, touge battle 2, the NSX battle (non-type R), etc. Heck, they almost always run it stock. The only time I've seen them run any different was when they put an R-tune R34 against the Porshe and Ferrari in a 3 car race. Tsuchiya was driving and taken it easy.

As far as the G35 is concerned, it's not a GTR. Yes, the C6 Z06 can take the 32, 33, and 34 in straightline. BUT, I would love to see both go at it on a track eventhough that's pretty much unfair (C6 Z06 450-500HP or something). Throw in the R-Tuned (480hp) to make it fair.

Steiner
06-08-2005, 04:10 PM
Based on Infinity's awesome sales in the USDM, if any manufacturer could afford a "from the ground up" new model introduction I'd think it would be them. However I think the Skyline is already has and is being developed as a Nissan in Japan. Nissan has chosen to badge it as an Infinity because they don't expect anybody is the USDM to seriously entertain the thought of spending $60k-$70k on a Nissan. At least that's my understanding of the reasoning behind the Skyline wearing an Infinity nameplate.

StealthFox
06-08-2005, 07:56 PM
Many N/A engines don't take well to FI without major engine upgrades if you want them to be reliable. However the new GT-R VQ will already be FI so odds are it will be easy to get more power.

true, but you forget the fact that its ugly as hell and is too heavy to handle. its a disgrace to the skyline name, and ESPECIALLY the GT-R badge. even if the car has 335 hp or whatever its still subpar and you could mod a mustang to be faster for a hell of alot lot less than the current projected pricing numbers.

BlueEyes
06-08-2005, 07:59 PM
You don't know what it looks like though, so how do you know it's ugly as hell? Infact, you don't know much of anything about it, so how do you know it will be a disgrace to the name?

DARKMAZ8
06-08-2005, 09:13 PM
I don't hate on nissan as I respect the power numbers(especially the torque) but I can't stand the execution of these cars. Every nissan I have driven is just plain boring. I also can't stand these GTR fanbois that never even sat inside one.

Anyways, I would take a new supra :p

BlueEyes
06-08-2005, 09:15 PM
I also can't stand these GTR fanbois that never even sat inside one.

A-freakin-men, most haven't even seen one in the flesh.

PetersonPeleRx8
06-08-2005, 09:17 PM
Even if it's based off the G35 platform and looks like it, it could be a completely different animal as well (ala lancer to lancer EVO transformation). I'm sure they (Nissan/Infiniti) are sensitive to the fact that the Skyline has become a kind of legend, and won't do anything too dumb to screw it up. If they make it look anything like that red car that looks kinda like a CGT, I'll be a happy camper.

One thing I think they need in the styling, are the offset taillights to keep some semblance of the old ones, and a strong, aggressive line running from the bottom of the door to above the rear fenders.

JanSolo
06-08-2005, 09:34 PM
Having sat in a GTR33 and GTR34, I can say that their interiors suck but the cars obviously perform well. Anyone in SoCal could have seen the Signal Skyline at SuperAutobacs a long while back. Or anyone in SoCal could go to RBMotoring (if they are still around) or XS Engineering and check out all the Skylines they have at their shops.

rx8pilot
06-08-2005, 10:21 PM
I don't see why a new Skyline would have to outdo the new Z06. That's a pretty tall order if we're speculating the price being at or below the Z06. If they get the car to be as good as the Z06, that should be enough.

Some specs and technical on the new Z06:
http://www.corvettemuseum.com/specs/2006/


Tell you guys what..somebody get the new skyline.. i'm getting the new Z06 (hopefully soon) and we'll find a place and we'll lay speculation down in the form of long rubber tracks on an asphalt surface.

:D

BlueFrenzy
06-08-2005, 10:29 PM
Call me crazy but doesn't the so called spy pics of the silver 2007 GTR look EXACTLY like a G35??

I always envisioned the Skyline as a muscular car like the R32. If this is indeed the actual look, it would be VERY drastic. When you see new generations of Evo's and Imprezza's, you can kind of see a bit of the older versions in it.

StealthFox
06-08-2005, 10:36 PM
You don't know what it looks like though, so how do you know it's ugly as hell? Infact, you don't know much of anything about it, so how do you know it will be a disgrace to the name?

how do i know what it looks like? its based off the G35 and that car isnt hte best looking around.

and i dont see any plans of bringing back the RB26DETT, just that crappy VQ engine so it is a disgrace to the name IMO

StealthFox
06-08-2005, 10:37 PM
Even if it's based off the G35 platform and looks like it, it could be a completely different animal as well (ala lancer to lancer EVO transformation). I'm sure they (Nissan/Infiniti) are sensitive to the fact that the Skyline has become a kind of legend, and won't do anything too dumb to screw it up. If they make it look anything like that red car that looks kinda like a CGT, I'll be a happy camper.

One thing I think they need in the styling, are the offset taillights to keep some semblance of the old ones, and a strong, aggressive line running from the bottom of the door to above the rear fenders.

yeah but not in america, in america its a fresh start.

BlueEyes
06-08-2005, 10:37 PM
This yellow one? I don't mind this one, although, the red one is better.
http://www.skyline-forums.com/images/r35pics/gtr16.jpg
This one looks terrible though, I can't see nissan making this the GTR
http://www.skyline-forums.com/images/r35pics/032911-E.jpg

BlueEyes
06-08-2005, 10:39 PM
how do i know what it looks like? its based off the G35 and that car isnt hte best looking around.

and i dont see any plans of bringing back the RB26DETT, just that crappy VQ engine so it is a disgrace to the name IMO
Just because something shares a common frame, doesn't mean the body has to look the same ;) the fact remains, we don't know what it will look like, so your comment is meaningless.

As well, you have no idea what they will do to that "crappy" VQ engine, if indeed they use it, so again, meaningless.

PoorCollegeKid
06-08-2005, 11:22 PM
true, but you forget the fact that its ugly as hell and is too heavy to handle. its a disgrace to the skyline name, and ESPECIALLY the GT-R badge. even if the car has 335 hp or whatever its still subpar and you could mod a mustang to be faster for a hell of alot lot less than the current projected pricing numbers.

Too heavy to handle? Most rumors that I've seen have placed the weight fairly close to that of the new Z06. This is less than that of the 350Z, which, in turn, is lighter than the Evo and STi. The slightly different chassis and more exotic structural components used in that car will shave a good deal of weight off. If this is true, it'll be hundreds of pounds lighter than the previous GTRs, which will help it's handling compared to previous versions rather than hurt it, as you assume. It'll also have ~475hp if the 480ps estimate is accurate, not 335hp (not sure where you got that) so it will be able to move quickly in a straight line as well. Clicky (http://www.r35gtr.com/) for more info so you can make an informed opinion on this car, rather than spouting off random "facts" that you make up on the spot.

Ike
06-09-2005, 04:09 AM
how do i know what it looks like? its based off the G35 and that car isnt hte best looking around.

and i dont see any plans of bringing back the RB26DETT, just that crappy VQ engine so it is a disgrace to the name IMO

That crappy VQ engine is one of the best engines on the market and has been for years. It's won more awards than the number of years you've been on the planet. Your statements about the G35 are also purely opinion and I'd say you're in the minority on this one, most people I know thing the G35C is a great looking coupe.

You know what's worse than a fanboi that has never sat in or seen any Skyline in person? A fanboi that doesn't even have a drivers license.

shelleys_man_06
06-09-2005, 04:16 AM
If the Nissan Skyline hits U.S. shores, will people that can afford it take to it? Corvette and Viper already have a fair market share over here, and throwing a GT-R into the fray is a toss up. Maybe this is why Toyota is reluctant to release another Supra-type vehicle. I'm curious is how Nissan is going to market this car. The G35 and 350Z seem to be selling well, so are they pushing their luck with a supercar? Why not sell the a street version of the R390 (sic)? I surely hope this thing is more than the modified G35 mule in those Autoweek photos. If it is, then Axe body spray must really work.

BTW, isn't HICAS non-beneficial when wheel power starts to increase? I've always wondered this since almost every 300ZX tuner sells HICAS eliminators.

Oh yeah, the ER34 was a kick ass car. Bring one of those over too.

JanSolo
06-09-2005, 12:02 PM
BTW, isn't HICAS non-beneficial when wheel power starts to increase? I've always wondered this since almost every 300ZX tuner sells HICAS eliminators.

I had super HICAS on my old z32 and the bar was supposed to eliminate the vague feeling at the limit. Or at least, that is what the Stillen catalogue says. :D

shelleys_man_06
06-10-2005, 05:40 PM
What would be the point of four-wheel steering on a sports car? It's not a large honking Silverado. Nissan you knuckleheads. :p

Steiner
06-12-2005, 01:58 AM
I just read an interview with the lead designer at Nissan. In it he states that the new Skyline won't resemble the R34 or the current G35 platform.

Japan8
06-13-2005, 01:06 PM
Current JDM mags.... VQ32DETT... 408 - 420 hp. All-wheel drive may be in the air because of weight. Supposedly it is a BMW M5 on the street and a Porsche 911 Turbo on the track...