Last night I was on my way home but then suddenly decided to take a detour to the nearest Mitsubishi Dealership to check out the 06 Eclipse up close. I wish I would have had my digital camera with me when I went, but I didn't.:( First of all I'm not a big fan of the new design but wanted to give it a fair chance to show me something.

When I got there they had a Red 06 Eclipse GT in the front with a 05 EVO. I first noticed the design was not eye catching but not as bad as the pictures I've seen. The design is going to be easy to forget(kinda like when you see a Civic or Accord on the road). They first and most disappointing thing I saw was the spoiler. It may be the tackiest looking spoiler on the market. Its so small and it has a silver/chrome color look to it. HORRIBLE!

The inside is just as bad as the outside. Looks like they threw all whole punch of left over parts from another car into it. The bucket seats looks like a 300 lb man could fit in them and there is a 0% chance of fitting someone in the back seat!

I think the only things I like about this car are the wheels and the engine. Good thing it puts up some pretty nice numbers because they have nothing else to rely on. In my book Mitsubishi has put themselves into a bigger hole than they already are in.

Motor Trend and others are calling the new Eclipse the best ever, and they say it blends all the favorable characteristics of the previous 3 generations together to make a pretty good car.

I personally think the car looks great from the three-quarters view and from the rear, but the front is boring and unoriginal. The engine is supposed to be pretty good, with a smooth power delivery.

All in all I would never buy one, but it's certainly an improvement over the last-gen Eclipse.

I hear that, its just not impressive in my eyes. The engine is great!

The engine is Hyundai engineered.

not much of a write-up considering you haven't even driven it

They first and most disappointing thing I saw was the spoiler. It may be the tackiest looking spoiler on the market. Its so small and it has a silver/chrome color look to it. HORRIBLE!

This spoiler....
http://automobile.auto123.com/ArtImages/40207/14.jpg

looks NOwhere near as bad as this one....
http://a332.g.akamai.net/f/332/936/12h/www.edmunds.com/media/roadtests/firstdrive/2006/mitsubishi.evo9/06.mitsubishi.evo9.r34.corner.160.jpg
or this one....
http://a332.g.akamai.net/f/332/936/12h/www.edmunds.com/media/roadtests/firstdrive/2004/subaru.sti/04.subaru.sti.r34.160.jpg

Considering the cars I think the Eclipse one looks more ricey. Now put the STi or Evo spoiler on a Civic and I totally agree. That chrome bling bling thing is awful as are the clear tails on the Eclipse.

I stumbled upon this as well...

Separately, NHTSA said Mitsubishi Motors Corp. (7211.T) is recalling 1,151 2006 model-year Eclipse cars in the United States due to possible defects in the braking system.
Taken from http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=568&ncid=568&e=12&u=/nm/20050603/bs_nm/autos_gm_recall_dc_3

haha well that isn't a problem..as long as you never break :p

not much of a write-up considering you haven't even driven it


hahaha that's why he said a "short write up"..if he had driven it it would've been a "long write up" :D

wow, that was SOME write-up.................

i know..i'm still recovering from being blown away :p

Considering the cars I think the Eclipse one looks more ricey. Now put the STi or Evo spoiler on a Civic and I totally agree. That chrome bling bling thing is awful as are the clear tails on the Eclipse.
Of course you'd defend the ricemobiles. :rolleyes:

The Eclipse's spoiler is tasteful. The other two, regardless of the car's 'heritage', are trash and should be ripped off and burned.

I stumbled upon this as well...


Only 44 cars had been sold; the rest of that number were in transit or still on lots. This shows they're trying to prove to the public they aren't hiding anymore problems, or potential problems.

The brake issue has already been remedied. It's nice to see that Mitsu caught this SUPPLIER problem so early, and addressed it swiftly.

No incidents were reported as a result of the brake booster issue.

not much of a write-up considering you haven't even driven it
I didnt know I had to drive the car to do a write up. :rolleyes: My write up was about what I saw and thats it. To tell you the truth I dont want to test drive it. Its a car I would never buy!

I didnt know I had to drive the car to do a write up. :rolleyes: My write up was about what I saw and thats it. To tell you the truth I dont want to test drive it. Its a car I would never buy!

take it easy. i'm just saying there's not much to your write-up considering looks are subjective, and you didn't even drive the car, much less sit in it to give us a legitimate opinion.

I hear you. Looks are always subjective but I'm pretty sure most people are leaning towards my direction as far as the 06 eclipse is concerned.

^^ agreed, looks like a sunfire in front

Here's a fairly amusing discussion/argument thread from another forum, where a Mitsu salesman comes in and tries to tell everyone that this car will be on par with the 350Z and RX-8.

click here (http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=1563468)

I hear you. Looks are always subjective but I'm pretty sure most people are leaning towards my direction as far as the 06 eclipse is concerned.

i actually think it looks nice. :o

^I agree. I held off judgment til I saw one in person and I think it looks good.

If I wanted a V6 coupe and was buying solely on looks, Id pick this over the Z everyday of the week.

That spoiler is also how you open the trunk, there is a little touch button at the base of it that pops the trunk. Does look little out of place but as noted no where near as bad as some spoilers out there.

Of course you'd defend the ricemobiles. :rolleyes:

The Eclipse's spoiler is tasteful. The other two, regardless of the car's 'heritage', are trash and should be ripped off and burned.

I'm sorry, but your opinion doesn't matter.

When you read reviews in US magazines, make sure to read the sidebars.

If you read the car and driver review, and ignore the sidebars, the car sounds pretty awesome. However when you read the whole thing, you find comments on the absolutely absymal handling, poor weight distribution, yaht like roll, and rather poor feedback anytime you turn the wheel. Its really odd, cause if you just read the reviews, they praise the handling...the turn right around and bash it in sidebars. Maybe thats the new way of doing things...always put happy reviews in the main section, and then put the real reviews in the sidebars.

Everyone likes the engine though!

One issue I see with the car, is there is no mesh on the lower section of the radiator insert (see rx8 syndrome).

I see a bunch of broken condensors and destroyed transmissions due to this. (The ATX version mounts the transmission cooler in front of the bottom of the condensor...no mesh).

I am greatly anticipating TopGear, 5th Gear, and Best Motoring International reviews of this car...those three tend to give a much less biased review. (If it sucks, they tell you flat out it sucks).

I'm sorry, but your opinion doesn't matter.
No less than those of tasteless ricers such as yourself.

WOW, a forum where people are actually defending the RX8's performance over another car.. that's pretty bad for the eclipse ;)

Here's a fairly amusing discussion/argument thread from another forum, where a Mitsu salesman comes in and tries to tell everyone that this car will be on par with the 350Z and RX-8.

click here (http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=1563468)

No less than those of tasteless ricers such as yourself.

Sorry, less.

so how fast this thing can go? a lot faster than the 8???????

Edmunds tested it as slower then the 8. C&D and R&T tested it as faster. In a straight line of course...if you even care about that.

It'll get slaughtered in the corners (by the 8) due to the amount of heft and inferior suspension setup.

first comparing the eclipse in a straight line shot against the RX8 is like comparing the mitsu's strongest quality against the 8's weakest. It reminds me of those car commercials that tell you that thier car is faster 0-60 then an RX8, has more passenger space then a 350z, handles better then a mustang, and cost less then a g35. It makes it cound as if it's better then all these cars, when in fact, it's not better then any of them.

Everyone seems to be in love with the engine and the performance numbers, but I'm not so impressed. The mitsu makes 20 less hp then a 350z with an engine that's 10% bigger. This from a huge 3.8 litere, what's so impressive about that?

The eclipse is a fat pig that doesn't outrun anything in it's competition. The closet 0-60 and 1/4 it comes to, is the RX8, and we all know what a drag strip ripper the 8 is. The following all have better skidpad numbers: RX8, 350z, g35, mustang, rsx, celica, tiberon, and srt4 . I know numbers are numbers but with a soft suspension, body roll, and king kong weight, I doubt this thing is going to out handle anyone. So, what makes this a sports car? Is it only that it can do 0-60 in the 6 sec range , what else does it have? 0-60 does not make it a sports car or we have to start considering alot of 4 door sedans, lux cars, and some trucks sports cars also...

Too bad this car is so soft and is fwd. It is a pseudo performance car since it's 1/4 mile is somewhat respectable, but it's handling.. well as far as I know, the Eclipse has never been known as good handling car. The Evo is the real Mitsu performance vehicle, not the Eclipse.

I doubt we will see forced induction on the V6 anytime soon. There is no room in the engine bay. But the 4 banger.. that has room to spare, so I would expect to see a supercharger in it's future.

When I went to the Mitsubishi Owners Day meet, I saw an interesting badge on one of the new Eclipses. Yes, the picture below shows a VR4 badge on it. When I asked the Mitsu folks about it, they acted dumb and said they had no idea what it was about.

http://www.norcalevo.net/gallery/albums/album250/DSCF0797.sized.jpg

V6 Engine Bay

http://www.norcalevo.net/gallery/albums/album250/DSCF0837.sized.jpg



4 banger engine bay.

http://www.norcalevo.net/gallery/albums/album250/DSCF0844.sized.jpg

The Eclipse for the last time is NOT a sports car, which means it is not in the same class as the RX-8 or 350z. It is a SPORTY car with decent acceleration performance numbers (14.2-14.5 1/4 mile) that will allow it to hang with some sports cars in a straight line.

Everyone seems to be in love with the engine and the performance numbers, but I'm not so impressed. The mitsu makes 20 less hp then a 350z with an engine that's 10% bigger. This from a huge 3.8 litere, what's so impressive about that?
Big deal. At the end of the quarter, the heavier, traction-challenged Eclipse pulls the same trap as the 'almighty' z, so that says something about its power. Plus its engine is smoother than a newborn's ass, doesn't strain the closer it gets to redline, and doesn't sound like a drowning creature struggling for air, unlike the z.

The eclipse is a fat pig that doesn't outrun anything in it's competition. The closet 0-60 and 1/4 it comes to, is the RX8, and we all know what a drag strip ripper the 8 is.
What competition are you referring to? Obviously not the RSX, Cobalt SS, Celica GTS (if the ugly bug is still in production) or anything else starting in the low 20's like it. And if you want to throw in more expensive, RWD quasi-competitors, it's faster than the g35 coupe, and two-tenths slower to 60 than the so-called 300 hp z. Not bad for a FWD pig.

"For a sports car that matches the base 350Z, beats the RSX, RX-8, and base Mustang, yet tops out at $27,000 MSRP, and has a better warranty than all of them - it's pretty goddamn impressive, no matter what you think of the previous generations"


THIS, IS FUNNY!

"For a sports car that matches the base 350Z, beats the RSX, RX-8, and base Mustang, yet tops out at $27,000 MSRP, and has a better warranty than all of them - it's pretty goddamn impressive, no matter what you think of the previous generations"


THIS, IS FUNNY!
Matches the 350Z and beats the RSX, RX8 and Base Mustang? I guess your talking about straight line. :confused: Cause if your talking about anything else performance wise than you must have had too much of the white stuff.

Say what you will about the car, but in the end it would be a damn bad idea for an RX-8 owner to race an Eclipse owner for pink slips. :D

Dude the eclipse is ugly and always will be. It looks like a longer audi TT with extremely-mis-styled headlights and tail lights.

And that spoiler.. .how could you say it looks better than the Evo or STI spoiler, at least their spoilers look functional. Whats the purpose of that little lip spoiler... and to make it worse they just had to chrome it. Nice.

It's hyundai-engineered? That's a big congrats to Hyundai, not mitsu.

Wow. How can the RX-8 lose against the Eclipse when is has the same track time as a BMW M3?

I'm very confused by people here who seem concerned about how the RX-8 measures up in straight line acceleration. As many here seem to be aware, that's just not what the car is about.

I've always liked C&D's "street start" 5-60 test as a measure of how a car performs when you drive it as if you want it to last for a while. On this test the RX-8 measures in at 7.5 seconds, not a good number by sports car standards. Anyone have the stat on the Eclipse (I don't have my issue yet)?

I'll give you the straight dope on the Eclipse as soon as I can drive one. I post reviews over at epinions.com using the same screen name as here (and encourage anyone interested in playing auto journalist to do the same). The dealer here had two cars last time I checked, a manual four and automatic six, but these could not be driven until the ninth. They claimed this was because that was the intro date, but I've since read that there's been a safety recall on the car. Putting two and two together...

Say what you will about the car, but in the end it would be a damn bad idea for an RX-8 owner to race an Eclipse owner for pink slips. :D

You're right. I mean, what RX8 owner in their right mind would want to have to deal with the hassle or horror of owning one of these Eclipses :D.

Anyways, I'd race a lap around Nordschleife for pink slips, and then try and sell the Eclipse. Hopefully I'd have more sucess than Mitsubishi will :p

And that spoiler.. .how could you say it looks better than the Evo or STI spoiler, at least their spoilers look functional.

Yup, if their function is making an already ridiculous looking car even worse.

RX8-79 for liking RX-8's you sure do have funny tastes.

When it comes to spoilers, the general rule of thumb (but not always) is that the spoiler line should in the middle of the trunk and the roof line. That's where the air sweeps right across the roof and bounces right off the top of the spoiler.

Please, tell me how the eclipse's spoiler is so much better than that.

You're right. I mean, what RX8 owner in their right mind would want to have to deal with the hassle or horror of owning one of these Eclipses :D.

Anyways, I'd race a lap around Nordschleife for pink slips, and then try and sell the Eclipse. Hopefully I'd have more sucess than Mitsubishi will :p

Big words considering Mazda is having a hard time selling 1k RX-8s per month is just its second year or production.

RX8-79 for liking RX-8's you sure do have funny tastes.
Thanks.

When it comes to spoilers, the general rule of thumb (but not always) blah blah.
If it's 'not always' then it's not a 'general rule of thumb.'

Please, tell me how the eclipse's spoiler is so much better than that.
Cause it looks better to me.

The rear end is not bad but like others have said, the front end is un-inspired. The concept car looked alright but the production version is meh.

I seriously doubt they'll be able to reproduce the success of the 2nd gen.

What competition are you referring to? Obviously not the RSX, Cobalt SS, Celica GTS (if the ugly bug is still in production) or anything else starting in the low 20's like it. And if you want to throw in more expensive, RWD quasi-competitors, it's faster than the g35 coupe, and two-tenths slower to 60 than the so-called 300 hp z. Not bad for a FWD pig.

first of all, again you are talking straight line performance. My whole post was exactly about "what else besides straight line pulling does this car have", apparantly, nothing. If you want to compare straight line acceleration, we have to throw in the chrysler 300, bmw 700's, some caddy's, a few pickup trucks, the whole dodge "hemi" lineup, and a few Merc's, and let's not forget the Linc LS, because they all can put up pretty fast straight line numbers.

As far as low 20's and bang for the buck, you left off the SRT4, which totally kills this car in every catagory, and the mustang GT's start at 25K, so for that straight line throw the driver into the rear seats feeling...there are just better cars out there, that do it better...

first of all, again you are talking straight line performance. My whole post was exactly about "what else besides straight line pulling does this car have", apparantly, nothing.
First of all, YOU said, "The eclipse is a fat pig that doesn't outrun anything in it's competition" so I was talking straight line performance against the others to show you are wrong.

If you want to compare straight line acceleration, we have to throw in the chrysler 300, bmw 700's, some caddy's, a few pickup trucks, the whole dodge "hemi" lineup, and a few Merc's, and let's not forget the Linc LS, because they all can put up pretty fast straight line numbers.
No, we don't have to, because it'd be stupid. Not many people, even on here, are dumb enough to compare this car with the ones you named.

so for that straight line throw the driver into the rear seats feeling...there are just better cars out there, that do it better...
And other than the SRT4, which is still and always will be just a neon, they all manage that because they're more powerful. I feel a 'duh' coming on. :rolleyes:

The fat pig will scream with Mods.

Have you ever seen a crazy man drive a front wheel drive on the track?

It will compete.

My Mitsu dealer emailed me today and mentioned that the new Eclipse is selling extremely well. They've sold all the new arrivals already and the next truckload is 90% spoken for even though it hasn't arrived yet. He was carefull to point out that, athough other dealers are marking up their prices, they are selling their new Eclipses at MSRP. It might not be the knight in shining armor Mitsu has been waiting for, but it seems to be attracting the kind of attention that gets people into the dealership.

Test drove an EVO the other day. As I was leaving we took a look at the new eclipse, i think it has to be the ugliest new car from mitsubishi ever! I dont care what kind of engine it has, i'm not driving anything that ugly!

I have the the july issue of Automobile and they have a comparison story on the eclipse. Do they compare it to the 350Z, the RX-8, S2000, Mustang GT, Sti...nope, the comparison group was the Acura rsx-s, a mustang V6, and the mini cooper s.
Even the mag doesn't see this as anything more then a mid level sports car.

Let's see what some of the comments were:
" the eclpise is a champion of in-your-face style that challenges you with a futuristic shape. But once up close, the presentation unravels abit. It's 2.9 inches longer, 3.3 in. wider, and 1.9 inches taller then the car it replaces, and the small car proportions don't seem to fit the larger galant-sedan based platform quite right.

That's because the eclpise is really a big car beneath the small skin.

We must confess that looking good while driving fast is really important to us. And the eclpise GT is a quick car, as our test prove. And yetthe eclipse really isn't the best of sporty cars. It's too heavy, a whopping 3540 pounds, even heavier then the mustang.

The mitsu eclpise GT makes a big statement in a car that's just right for everyday driving, but it's a little too big for real driving excitement."

And how did the eclipse do in comparison to the others in this group. It finished last. This car is quick in a straight line but when it comes to a sports car or even a sporty car, it seems it's not even a good mid-level one...

BTW the mini took 1st and the acura second...

Motor Trend, Car and Driver, and Road & Track all had fairly positive reviews of the new Eclipse.

Who the hell actually subscribes to Automobile mag anyway?

who the hell actually subscibes to any of those magazines!

what's a magazine? I only know internet. :D

who the hell actually subscibes to any of those magazines!

Is that a trick question? :p

I saw one today on the road and thought they were trying to hard to replicate the 350z or the G35. I wasn't too impressed.

a g-d aweful car...just hideous...I've seen, refuse to be seen driving it, even for a test drive

I don't think it is that horrible...just plain and chromy. Not something I would go WOW over, like the RX-8 :D

I've always liked C&D's "street start" 5-60 test as a measure of how a car performs when you drive it as if you want it to last for a while. On this test the RX-8 measures in at 7.5 seconds, not a good number by sports car standards. Anyone have the stat on the Eclipse (I don't have my issue yet)?

I hope to God they started that test from 2nd gear to go that slow. That or they accidentally were testing an Automatic RX-8 -- which knowing Car and Driver I wouldn't put past them (and, yes, I do subscribe).

small exerp from auto123.com's review of the '06 eclipse:

The longer I spent in the driver's seat of the GT, it became clearer that this car feels more out of sorts and miss-matched than a wellhoned sports car.

the entire article can be viewed here:

http://www.auto123.com/en/info/news/roadtest,view,Mitsubishi.spy?artid=48645

not a great review, but not terrible either...

It's got a fatty engine to go with the fatty weight but now that I see them on the road.. It's one thing for the Mustang to go retro but why, Mitsu, go back to 2nd gen DSM styling so soon? I sort of feel sorry for them.

You should compare with auto123's write up of the RX-8! It'll put a smile on your face:
http://www.auto123.com/en/info/news/roadtest,view,Mazda.spy?artid=48193&pg=2

I for one heard the specs of the Eclipse before it came out (and liked the photos I saw), and thought - ohh, man..I should have waited.

No. No way. Definitely glad I didn't wait.

You should compare with auto123's write up of the RX-8! It'll put a smile on your face:
http://www.auto123.com/en/info/news/roadtest,view,Mazda.spy?artid=48193&pg=2

I for one heard the specs of the Eclipse before it came out (and liked the photos I saw), and thought - ohh, man..I should have waited.

No. No way. Definitely glad I didn't wait.

yeah, read that review too. i liked it :) i think someone posted it somewheres earlier this week ;)

I have had 9 Eclipses and I just ordered a white '06 GTS that should arrive in a couple of months. The car is well balanced and has PLENTY of power on tap. I love the car. It is EXTREMELY comfortable and a blast to drive. Once I get my hands on it and begin working on this one it will be one of the faster cars on the street with minimal time spent.

And the people that are knocking the performance of the 3rd gen...My 3rd gen SMOKES my RX-8 in a street race and it handles like a dream with my sway bar/strut/spring upgrades. And I also forgot to mention that the car does this with a full stereo system and moulded body kit which adds several lb's.

are u on club3g? 9 eclipses, thats a lot of eclipses

I have had 9 Eclipses and I just ordered a white '06 GTS that should arrive in a couple of months. The car is well balanced and has PLENTY of power on tap. I love the car. It is EXTREMELY comfortable and a blast to drive. Once I get my hands on it and begin working on this one it will be one of the faster cars on the street with minimal time spent.

And the people that are knocking the performance of the 3rd gen...My 3rd gen SMOKES my RX-8 in a street race and it handles like a dream with my sway bar/strut/spring upgrades. And I also forgot to mention that the car does this with a full stereo system and moulded body kit which adds several lb's.


The ugly, albeit subjective looks have to appeal to at least someone. Glad you like.

Showoff, how much did you get it for?

i like it, i think its a nice car, the GTS just cost too much, theres better cars for that price

My Mitsu dealer emailed me today and mentioned that the new Eclipse is selling extremely well. They've sold all the new arrivals already and the next truckload is 90% spoken for even though it hasn't arrived yet. He was carefull to point out that, athough other dealers are marking up their prices, they are selling their new Eclipses at MSRP. It might not be the knight in shining armor Mitsu has been waiting for, but it seems to be attracting the kind of attention that gets people into the dealership.

This doesn't mean it's going to sell well at all. It just means that people want to be the first with something new and outlandish so everyone will look at it and go "hey, what is that thing?" and then they can talk all about it.

I suspect that with the price bar being set somewhere near the ozone layer as it is, they're going to have to throw some serious incentives at it to clear the lots. Same thing happened with the RX8 and GTO. I can't imagine this being very much different.

majority (like 90%?) of the eclipses sold are going to be the GS model, which starts a little under 20k, i think its a viable alternative for people who wants a sporty looking coupe instead of civic, corola, sentra, accord, camry etc.

are u on club3g? 9 eclipses, thats a lot of eclipses

Yeah I'm on 3G.

My "Fat Pig"
http://club.deathguard.org/carimages/eclipse1.jpg
http://www.deathguard.org/temp/eclipsered.jpg

BTW I also got sponsored by BF Goodrich and Motegi Racing while driving this piece of shit.

Showoff, how much did you get it for?

$20,620. I also had a $1000 owner loyalty bonus that I got in an e-mail. I did the base GT. I only wish you could get a moonroof with cloth seats because I HATE Mitsu's leather.

Yeah I'm on 3G.

My "Fat Pig"
http://club.deathguard.org/carimages/eclipse1.jpg
http://www.deathguard.org/temp/eclipsered.jpg

BTW I also got sponsored by BF Goodrich and Motegi Racing while driving this piece of shit.

Sweet Stratus! (where's my vomit emoticon?)


BTW, Motegis are for ricers.

is it a rule that sports car owners of ____ have to hate on owners of _____(insert competition here).??

our Rx8's arent exactly the most respected cars in the sports car world either. who cares? hell, i lost to an 06 eclipse (stock vs stock) a few weeks ago on the road and ive driven one too. i think they're honestly slightly faster than us (even tho thats not saying much). are you guys intimidated or something? lol its a car. im pretty damn comfortable with the fact that most people in the world probably think the Eclipse looks nicer than the 8. i dont care. what does it matter? i think the new Eclipse looks and runs great. definitely a good job by mitsubishi....finally.

ive owned a lot of sports cars. the 8 is a great car. handles like a dream, looks great (i dont care if people say its ugly), and the interior kicks ass. its not a super-car tho. theres no reason to be insecure.

not much of a write-up considering you haven't even driven it

true. possibly the most bias unfair write-up ever! :rolleyes:

is it a rule that sports car owners of ____ have to hate on owners of _____(insert competition here).??

our Rx8's arent exactly the most respected cars in the sports car world either. who cares? hell, i lost to an 06 eclipse (stock vs stock) a few weeks ago on the road and ive driven one too. i think they're honestly slightly faster than us (even tho thats not saying much). are you guys intimidated or something? lol its a car. im pretty damn comfortable with the fact that most people in the world probably think the Eclipse looks nicer than the 8. i dont care. what does it matter? i think the new Eclipse looks and runs great. definitely a good job by mitsubishi....finally.

ive owned a lot of sports cars. the 8 is a great car. handles like a dream, looks great (i dont care if people say its ugly), and the interior kicks ass. its not a super-car tho. theres no reason to be insecure.

precisely!!! thank you..!!

ive lost to many cars out there.. including eagle talons, ITRs, and civics... most of them with turbos ( but even the an ITR with a few engine mods can rape this car on a straight line)..... even a mildly souped(exhaust,intake) up 240sx (stock 150 hp) stays on my tail...

the fact is if i dont start of by revving my engine to 7K rpms off the line.. cars that do 0-60 in 7secs can keep up with me... :(

ill even go as far as betting someone.. that from a roll the new eclipse will take this car out... and slap an intake and exhasut it will keep up with the 350s.. turbo it and it will keep up with m3s...

id trade in my car for it.. but the biggest problem i face is my hatred for FWD!!!!!!!!!!!!!

end of story.... and the fact that i love my little underperforming 8.! :D

OMG did anyone elswe see, that Eclipse has fender flares. I can't believe Mitsubishi would steal the fender flare idea from Mazda! :D

When it comes to spoilers, the general rule of thumb (but not always) is that the spoiler line should in the middle of the trunk and the roof line. That's where the air sweeps right across the roof and bounces right off the top of the spoiler.

Well, what you're talking about is a wing, not a spoiler. And, that is not the general rule of thumb at all. THe rule of thumb is put the wing in a location to have the smoothest possible airflow impacting the leading edge. Ideally wings should be mounted well above the roof line, but this isn't practical, nor allowed by any racing bodies really. So, they should be moved as far back as possble; the shape of the rear glass and roof height determine how high to put it.

Well, what you're talking about is a wing, not a spoiler. And, that is not the general rule of thumb at all. THe rule of thumb is put the wing in a location to have the smoothest possible airflow impacting the leading edge. Ideally wings should be mounted well above the roof line, but this isn't practical, nor allowed by any racing bodies really. So, they should be moved as far back as possble; the shape of the rear glass and roof height determine how high to put it.
Engineering pwns :p I always thought it would make more sense to have them higher up, seems to make more sense. I guess now I know the reason they don't do that. Top draw BlueEyes.

im actually considering buying one of the new Eclipses. FWD isnt the greatest, but damn i do love how they look and how they run. 1990-2005 Eclipses ive always hated but after driving one of the new ones i love the 2006's.

http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/8/web/2120000-2120999/2120270_6_full.jpg
http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/6/web/1446000-1446999/1446866_11_full.jpg
http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/6/web/1446000-1446999/1446866_16_full.jpg

Guys, please don't clutter this thread with a shouting match. Keep your altercations to PM please.

Showoff, whil I'm not a huge fan of that generation eclipse, I must admit I kind of like yours. The new generation is growing on me as well, but I still don't think I'd ever buy one.