...maybe. i have the means and the opportunity to pick one up.. but i don't want to give up on my 8 so quick.. i know some of you will think i'm crazy if i don't jump on it.. but i'd really love to keep my 8 and see what it can do when the aftermarket picks up a little more.. am i insane or what? give me some feedback on what ya'll would do please. i feel like i'm cheating on my 8..lol.


Some stats for those that don't know.

Corvette Z06
LS7 7.0 liter hand-built V-8
427ci
est. 505 hp (some say at the wheels)
est. 475 ft lbs tq
est. 16MPG CITY 25 MPG HIGHWAY!!!!

est. times/speeds

top speed: 200
0-60: 3.5-3.7
1/4 mile: 11.2@130

damnnnn..is all i have to say.

no contest, i'd trade my left nut for the new vette

I would trade both nuts!!!!

ya dude.... go for the vette. Don't worry about the '8, if you miss it, I guarantee you can drive up to any person driving an 8 and offer to swap for a few hours. No way they'll refuse.

I'd trade both of snizzle's nuts for that Vette, too.

When the hell did gonads become currency?

it's not? :confused:

I'd trade in two RX-8's for the new Vette.

The aftermarket isn't getting it anywhere near a C6 Z06 anytime in the near future. Plus once it does it's be a finicky, highly tuned, unreliable gas guzzler in comparison.

I saw the new Z06 at the LA Autoshow this year, & I have to admit that it was pretty damn impressive. Where the "regular" Corvette interior left me unimpressed, the Z06's is much better. Also the form is much better with the regular "coupe" design vs. the previous versions nasty "hardtop" configuration (looks ungainly chopped). I would wait for the 2nd year as usually the first year the dealers are trying to rape the poor suckers who have to have the latest & greatest (at least out here they do) & usually by the 2nd/3rd year of most Corvette runs they are offering massive discounts.

The aftermarket isn't getting it anywhere near a C6 Z06 anytime in the near future. Plus once it does it's be a finicky, highly tuned, unreliable gas guzzler in comparison.
.........or.......you can drop a nicely tuned LS2 on the 8 and be done with it! :D

I saw the new Z06 at the LA Autoshow this year, & I have to admit that it was pretty damn impressive. Where the "regular" Corvette interior left me unimpressed, the Z06's is much better. Also the form is much better with the regular "coupe" design vs. the previous versions nasty "hardtop" configuration (looks ungainly chopped). I would wait for the 2nd year as usually the first year the dealers are trying to rape the poor suckers who have to have the latest & greatest (at least out here they do) & usually by the 2nd/3rd year of most Corvette runs they are offering massive discounts.


that's true.. it's that whole..getting the newest baddest thing out... but you're probably right.. if i just wait a year i'd probably pay a whole lot less.. hmmm

gosh..i was half hopin some of u guys would fight to keep me in the 8 lol..

.........or.......you can drop a nicely tuned LS2 on the 8 and be done with it! :D

now that would be something to see..lol I just don't think it's right though to take the rotary heart out of a rotary car for the sake of more tq.. and besides..that LS7 is FREAKIN HUGE...i really doubt it would fit. and if it did..it'd probably twist the 8 into a pretzel when gunned hard.

if you can afford it by all means go for it, insurance is going to be a killer but it would be worth it, the new Z06 is getting numbers right up there with cars triple its price and the new design is absolutely stunning. That is one remarkable car, you won't be disappointed. (it even has carbon fiber fenders! hard to believe this is the same car company that built the assstek)

edit: an ls7 in an 8 isn't even practical, way to big and it would tweak the balance something awful, now an ls1 in a 3rd gen? that would probably work :)

I'd trade both of snizzle's nuts for that Vette, too.

crap, i can't compete w/your offer... i guess i'll have to adopt

Z06

Yeah go for the trade--I'm more of a Porsche man myself--so I can't wait for the next 911 Turbo. Z06 is badass though.

depends if you need 4 seats or not. Otherwise I'd rather get a slightly used porsche than a vette.

don't forget that your penis will grow at least 2 inches with the vette

now that would be something to see..lol I just don't think it's right though to take the rotary heart out of a rotary car for the sake of more tq.. :D I don't know if it would be something like sleeping with another woman, or asking your wife to put breast implants :D j/k!
and besides..that LS7 is FREAKIN HUGE...i really doubt it would fit.They've retrofited LS engines on RX-7s and Miatas for a while. I think the RX-8 engine bay would swallow it.
and if it did..it'd probably twist the 8 into a pretzel when gunned hard. :D Agreed. You would end up reinforcing the entire frame, plus using a totally different tranny & fogget about the carbon fiber flywheel...it'd end up like flak projectiles on an Unreal death match :p

Get the Z06, and never look back...except to come to this board and tell us all about it.

The RX-8 has a very stout frame, I bet it could handle the hp.

The chassis might handle it... might. But the clutch and flywheel and all that jazz would be toast.

The LS2 is a good candidate for the RX8 cuz it's slightly more compact than the LS1 and made for drive by wire. It'd still be a very expensive modification (LS6 in an RX7 costs 11k+ to do right).

I was thinking about getting a vette myself. It's hard not to want a Z06 though if you are looking at a vette and that'd just be way too much to spend every month.

I'd trade in two RX-8's for the new Vette.

But how many Evos would you trade for a C6 Z06? ;)

4 Evos for a Z06--but thats just me

But how many Evos would you trade for a C6 Z06? ;)
Two evos for the Vette...Three for the Viper. :D

don't forget that your penis will grow at least 2 inches with the vette

Oh shiznit! it's settled then! lol

but seriously..they want 3k over msrp no matter what dealership you go to.. and that's without knowing the msrp price. the estimates are around 60-75k though... :eek: what do you guys think? should i get it for 3k over..or wait and pray to god there's one left with the options and color i'd want (not very likely)??

Two evos for the Vette...Three for the Viper. :D

did you see the review of the viper and the vette comparo on top gear? they called the viper complete garbage..lol it was pretty funny. and they gave the nod to the C6..and it wasn't even a z06...can't wait til i get some more solid specs on it.. i'll let you guys know what's goin on and keep you updated if any of ya'll are really interested.

HOLY CRAP... i just checked on what my insurance would be for the new vette (USAA)...


get this..

$336.45 for 6 months with 500 deductable...HOLY CRAP!!!!! that's less than my RX-8!!??? WTF! that deff. settles it..

HOLY CRAP... i just checked on what my insurance would be for the new vette (USAA)...


get this..

$336.45 for 6 months with 500 deductable...HOLY CRAP!!!!! that's less than my RX-8!!??? WTF! that deff. settles it..

makes no sense :confused:

i know..but hey..i'm not complaining.

she did say that if i got the insurance for the car before they updated it..it would be locked in at that rate.. as in...if i wait til they find out how expensive it is and what it costs..it will change. hope that is what the rate ends up bein..or at least close..but ur right..makes no freakin sense.. :D

Nobody's wrapped one around a telephone pole, yet. I guess they don't base rates solely on horsepower to weight ratios.

I was thinking about buying a C06 but.............

You have to think. Does the car fit you? Is it comfortable for you?

I chose the 8.


Now they got the Z06....... Damn

Kinda hard to walk away from that one.

i would trade my right nu..... oh wait

I'm wondering if Chevy will have problems selling a $70K Vette. I mean we all saw how long the ZR1 lasted even though it was a legendary Vette. I'd say @$70K it's still a bargain but that price really puts it out of reach for a lot of people.

makes no sense :confused:

Ahhh but it does. Here is what my insurance broker told me when I went to get insurance quotes for the C6 I was considering buying.

1. Most people that own it are in their 40s and up.
2. Those people that own it rarely speed, get tickets and get in accidents.

When I got the quote from him for the C6, it was cheaper than my insurance for the RX8, Evo and my wife's Mercedes. :( Too bad I wasn't impressed by the C6 when I test drove it or else I might be driving one right now.

ahh..but comparing ur experience in the C6 is the same as me (or worse) comparing the MT 8 to the auto....

don't forget that your penis will grow at least 2 inches with the vette

It will only seam that way for snizzle because his nuts will be missing.

all i gotta say is Snizzle's nuts must be something else for them to have that kind of a going price! lol

someone should start a thread on that..lol

ok..so just updating.. talked to my local chevy dealership..and one of the sales guys there that i've gotten to know real well...(bought 3 cars off him)..is hooking me up with only 500 over msrp instead of 3k.... YAY! i have it in writing and am #2 on the list.......

yes, some have said my nuts are worth their weight in gold.... or something like that :D

rx8pilot: what is MSRP on the Z06?

yes, some have said my nuts are worth their weight in gold.... or something like that :D

rx8pilot: what is MSRP on the Z06?

anywhere from 59k to 70k...*cough, cough*

don't know yet.. they haven't released the price

yeah last I heard it'll be closer to 70K, which makes sense considering how many of the regular C6s are in the high 50s low 60s

Too bad I wasn't impressed by the C6 when I test drove it or else I might be driving one right now.

What didn't impress you? I'm just curious.

... and if you tell me the acceleration, I'm going to go cry. :D

I don't see the appeal of the C6 Z06, really. Being able to go from Zero to "I squished myself under the back of a semi" in two seconds doesn't appeal to me. I mean seriously, I would think having that much power on tap is more liability than fun.

I don't see the appeal of the C6 Z06, really. Being able to go from Zero to "I squished myself under the back of a semi" in two seconds doesn't appeal to me. I mean seriously, I would think having that much power on tap is more liability than fun.

Drive one, you'll understand. It just simply puts a smile on your face when a car can throw you back in the seat.

Drive one, you'll understand. It just simply puts a smile on your face when a car can throw you back in the seat.

Yeah, but a "plain old" C6 will do that easily :p. Unless your going to track the car, I don't see the point of buying the Z06, very rarely are you going to get to take it beyond the limits of the regular C6. (imo) But my tune might change if I could afford one :D

Unless your going to track the car, I don't see the point of buying the Z06, very rarely are you going to get to take it beyond the limits of the regular C6. (imo)

Well we really only need a 90HP 3cyl Geo if we aren't going to the track ;)

The analogy w/computer technology fits well, the faster the better.... and then once you get that, you want more... a terrible addiction

But my tune might change if I could afford one :D

We can always live vicariously through rx8pilot, hehehe

I've been in - but not driven - cars that threw me back into the seat before.

I understand the appeal of something that goes faster. But I would only buy something I was going to use as a commuter car. I could see myself commuting (in dry weather) in a Corvette, a 911, an M5, an XLR-V, or an E55 if I had the money.

But once we get to the Viper, the C6 Z06, the Ford GT, the F430, the 911 turbo... I would think handling that much power in daily traffic would get tedious, maybe even dangerous after a while.

But once we get to the Viper, the C6 Z06, the Ford GT, the F430, the 911 turbo... I would think handling that much power in daily traffic would get tedious, maybe even dangerous after a while.
Heaven :D

it's not just the performance of it..(which stomps alot of exotics 3 times the price)...it's that it's a really neat car to put it mildly...carbon fiber fenders! titanium engine components! 10 inch rear wheels! 6.5lb to 1 horsepower! (approx) the heads-up display! (hey..i'm a pilot..i love that crap) and countless other stuff that has nothing to do with performance... i've always wanted a corvette..this is my time..i'm still young! (26 in july) it's better to see me in the car havin a little fun with it than some 50 yr old that just drives it on sundays isn't it???

You're sitting here blabbing about getting a new Z06 while I just burned $250 to buy Shelley a new car, plus I'm super-broke? I hate you.

There is a local guy who has a sweet 2nd gen RX-7 with an LT-1 in it and a corresponding vette manual tranny, he claims it only weighs about 55 lbs more with the LT-1 plus he removed the AC and some other stuff. It looks really really nice and he claims it runs high 12s. He had some custom RX-7 LT-1 badges on it. I have traditionally not been a big fan of piston conversions in RX cars but when I saw this one, it was so sweet and there was plenty of room in there for this motor, in fact it looked like it took up less space than the wankel.

it's not just the performance of it..(which stomps alot of exotics 3 times the price)...it's that it's a really neat car to put it mildly...carbon fiber fenders! titanium engine components! 10 inch rear wheels! 6.5lb to 1 horsepower! (approx) the heads-up display! (hey..i'm a pilot..i love that crap) and countless other stuff that has nothing to do with performance... i've always wanted a corvette..this is my time..i'm still young! (26 in july) it's better to see me in the car havin a little fun with it than some 50 yr old that just drives it on sundays isn't it???

Dude,
I'm 28. I make decent money, but I have student loan payments, a mortgage payment, and two kids in daycare. My Chevy is paid off, which is good because I can't afford a car payment. I even had to cancel my gym membership because I can't really afford the $50 a month for it.

I'll be one of those boring 50 year olds driving a Vette someday, because as much as I would love one I really can't afford it now. :D

I'm happy for you. Enjoy it. I'm just thinking that I personally would be quite happy with a 'mere' 400 horsepower and a 6 speed manual ... since right now I'm stuck with 180 horsepower and a 4 speed auto.

Some people call it the "mid life crisis car". I'm starting to realize that for many people it's a "I finally have money car".

^ not exactly sure what to say to that.. i have all that shit too..not including the 2 kids.. u do what you want with your life..i'll do what i want.. tomorrow's not guaranteed so i'm going to have fun with my life. let's not make this post a why i don't need this rant or isn't this good enough or some kind of a jealosy thing.. i posted because rx8club is like a close group..even family.. not flaunting anything in anyones face. just wanted you guys to know what's up in my life..if you don't care..don't respond. i by no means have crap-loads of money... just enough to be able to do this and not kill myself.. i have a diff outlook on life.. while you may be worried about your 401k..i'm worried that i won't be around after a few rotations to the "sand box"...being a forward asset on the battlefield..it's a very good chance that i'll not get to my 50's...so enjoy it when ur 50 and remember those who lived life while they could.

oh yeah..happy memorial day weekend ya'll...be safe out there on the roads..

You gotta love the Z06... At ~$70K that bad boy can pretty much run with anything on the road, even the exotic supercars. What kills me is that it's 500hp and naturally aspirated. If you get some FI on it, it's unbeatable, especially for the price...

Exactly what I was thinking Apophis, could you imagine the numbers that thing would put down with some twin turbos bolted on?

Do your thing Pilot, you think like I do, don't let the sissies get to ya!

corvettes are the fastest car for their price...obviously....and they are N/A. supercharge em like ligenfelter and its like an ICBM on wheels. simply unbeatable.

just remember what you are spending 70k on: a car built purely for speed and to turn heads. are you going to use it for that? my rx-8 does enough head turning and I don't go racing everywhere so spending that much money is a waste.

no one can tell you what you need, you need to see that for yourself. if you have the funds and it doesn't matter at all about the price than go for it. however, picture your situation after buying the car and ask yourself if that is what you need (not want).

hope you make the right decision for yourself,

nzarnow

I'm not sure these new Z06's will be able to be "fixed up" like previous versions though. The compression ratio is 13:1 on the 500 hp engine. Not to mention they said when they got to 7.0 liters there is no more room to bore & stroke this engine. In the most recent reports the head of GM research said don't count on more hp like they did when they had the 385-405 hp transition on the previous model). He stated there is pretty much nothing left to be done. Short of dropping in lower compression rods & pistons & sleeving this engine there might not be a way to add FI to this car.

I'm not sure these new Z06's will be able to be "fixed up" like previous versions though. The compression ratio is 13:1 on the 500 hp engine. Not to mention they said when they got to 7.0 liters there is no more room to bore & stroke this engine. In the most recent reports the head of GM research said don't count on more hp like they did when they had the 385-405 hp transition on the previous model). He stated there is pretty much nothing left to be done. Short of dropping in lower compression rods & pistons & sleeving this engine there might not be a way to add FI to this car.

we'll see if lingenfelter agrees when they get their hands on the thing

how do they handle? they look and seem to have the right performance figures.

^ not exactly sure what to say to that.. i have all that shit too..not including the 2 kids.. u do what you want with your life..i'll do what i want.. tomorrow's not guaranteed so i'm going to have fun with my life. let's not make this post a why i don't need this rant or isn't this good enough or some kind of a jealosy thing.. i posted because rx8club is like a close group..even family.. not flaunting anything in anyones face. just wanted you guys to know what's up in my life..if you don't care..don't respond. i by no means have crap-loads of money... just enough to be able to do this and not kill myself.. i have a diff outlook on life.. while you may be worried about your 401k..i'm worried that i won't be around after a few rotations to the "sand box"...being a forward asset on the battlefield..it's a very good chance that i'll not get to my 50's...so enjoy it when ur 50 and remember those who lived life while they could.

I'm not angry at you or anything. I'm sorry if I upset you.

There's nothing wrong with enjoying the car now, if you can afford it. I just was a little (not a lot, just a little) offended that you poked a little fun at the 50 year old Corvette owners.

What you do or do not do with your 401k is your business. Personally, I have two reasons to contribute as much as I can afford. First, if I die my wife still will have to retire someday. If we both die, the money will go to our kids - who will need it to get through college. Second, if I do live long enough to retire I want to retire in style.

I'm not sure these new Z06's will be able to be "fixed up" like previous versions though. The compression ratio is 13:1 on the 500 hp engine. ...


No the compression ratio is not 13:1, it is 11:1. I doubt there is any production street engine running 13:1.

I've been in - but not driven - cars that threw me back into the seat before.

I understand the appeal of something that goes faster. But I would only buy something I was going to use as a commuter car. I could see myself commuting (in dry weather) in a Corvette, a 911, an M5, an XLR-V, or an E55 if I had the money.

But once we get to the Viper, the C6 Z06, the Ford GT, the F430, the 911 turbo... I would think handling that much power in daily traffic would get tedious, maybe even dangerous after a while.

Well the 911 Turbo was actually criticized for being TOO civil--hence the creation of the harder edge 911 GT2 and GT3. Viper is definately not a commuter car, the 430 and GT would cause so much commotion that you couldn't do basic stuff like get gas. The Z06 is a nice compromise between 911 FAST/civility and Viper pureness.

Well the 911 Turbo was actually criticized for being TOO civil--hence the creation of the harder edge 911 GT2 and GT3. Viper is definately not a commuter car, the 430 and GT would cause so much commotion that you couldn't do basic stuff like get gas. The Z06 is a nice compromise between 911 FAST/civility and Viper pureness.

Well said, I agree with your stance on the Vette along side these other cars. Chevy designed it so that it COULD be a daily driver if need be. I think we all know cars like the Viper would not be a good choice for something like that.

It's still hot enough to get you looks and speed is certainly not an issue.

good lord..i'm not sure i'd even want to turbo it.. i think the only thing i might do is maybe an ecu chip and an exhaust... you are right though..it is already pretty much tuned to the max...you'd have to spend some more crazy cash to strap on some turbos... yeah i would like to see what lingenfelter does though. i'm under the impression that a 505 n/a horsepower car with around 475lb tq is plenty enough though..most cars can't get that unless they're boosted severely! N/A is always best..power anywhere you put the gas down :D

as for handling i'm sure it is better than the standard C6...one thing is it's 3 inches wider with the body work and that promotes big-time down force on this car....they say there is no need for a spoiler..(but of course it's optional for those that must have)

can't wait to see it in person!

A sidenote--for 2006 the Corvette is getting a 6speed paddle shifted auto. I'm sure that the Z06 will continue with manuel only (as it should).

just a link for those who are interested..has some good info..(some not updated)

http://www.corvettemuseum.com/specs/2006/

yeah..the paddle shifter is pretty pimp.. there was one more surprise instore yet for the z06 that hasn't been released yet..speculation was that the z06 would have the paddle shifter(or the one i'm hoping for.. 505hp at the WHEELS instead of engine)....dunno. we'll see

get the z06, i wish i had the dough!!

just a link for those who are interested..has some good info..(some not updated)

http://www.corvettemuseum.com/specs/2006/

yeah..the paddle shifter is pretty pimp.. there was one more surprise instore yet for the z06 that hasn't been released yet..speculation was that the z06 would have the paddle shifter(or the one i'm hoping for.. 505hp at the WHEELS instead of engine)....dunno. we'll see

thanks for the link, some great information there.... and i hate you :D

geez..luv u 2 man! lol

is anyone else on here seriously considering this car? or am i the only one?

I am seriously considering this car, in 3 years. :D

No the compression ratio is not 13:1, it is 11:1. I doubt there is any production street engine running 13:1.

Whoops, sorry. I was thinking the new M5 engine, it's 12:1. The 911's & M3's are running over 11:1 already, so it is close.

I am totally considering this car..if my union wins a certain grievance.

I am totally considering this car..if my union wins a certain grievance.

well let us know if it does or not! :D

well let us know if it does or not! :D

GM should make flame-proof shorts an option to make it easier to brave "the train" on the way out (where everybody gets their last smack in because your new car isn't an 8). hehe

We'll never win what we're asking, though. They want silly money.

Pricing on the Z06 was just released!

http://www.digitalcorvettes.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=38421

As much as I love my RX8, if I had the opportunity to get in a new Z06, I'd take it. Probably even if it meant giving up my RX8.

.........or.......you can drop a nicely tuned LS2 on the 8 and be done with it! :D
Still wouldn't have C6 Z06 performance.

Still wouldn't have C6 Z06 performance.
Like mullets say: just a few bolt ons away!