View Full Version : Trivia question: First production turbo car


No More Oldsmobiles
04-14-2005, 11:20 AM
So, what was the first production car with a turbo?

abbid
04-14-2005, 11:25 AM
1960 Chevy Corvair?

BlueEyes
04-14-2005, 11:30 AM
Oldsmobile Jetfire

DARKMAZ8
04-14-2005, 11:40 AM
didn't mercedes develop the first turbo car?

globi
04-14-2005, 11:54 AM
http://www.turbolader.net/en/content/history_turbocharger.htm

Daimler benz built the first supercharged vehicle 1912, but Saurer a Swiss truck manufacturer built the first turbocharged vehicle 1938.

BlueEyes
04-14-2005, 12:10 PM
and the old jetfire and chevy corvair were the first production turbo cars.

Feras
04-14-2005, 12:12 PM
1973 bmw 2002 turbo?

No More Oldsmobiles
04-14-2005, 02:51 PM
Yeah, baby! Oldsmobile!

http://www.prn.ee/ajuvant/reklaam/1960/olds-jetfire63.jpg

Props to Ransom and his posse.

Hear THAT, you ricers? My Olds is gonna smoke your @sses.

merlin00gt
04-14-2005, 02:55 PM
Wow, the statement on the box with the engine diagram reads "TURBO-ROCKET V-8...Delivers 215 h.p. -- one horsepower for every cubic inch of displacement."

Goes to show how efficient engines have gotten over the years.

No More Oldsmobiles
04-14-2005, 02:57 PM
I got a chuckle out of that, too. Plus Olds quickly stopped offering it because it was unreliable and lag was a lot worse in those days.

merlin00gt
04-14-2005, 03:05 PM
That's a pretty small V8 too. 3.5 liter, or there abouts. They mention that it's Aluminum. Block and heads, or heads only, or block only?

abbid
04-14-2005, 03:09 PM
Dude, that artice says 1963. The corvair came out in 1960. I want my cookie, and i want it NOW!!

No More Oldsmobiles
04-14-2005, 03:10 PM
I got the following info from this site: (http://www.442.com/oldsfaq/ofjet.htm)


In 1961, Olds (and Buick and Pontiac, referred to collectively as "The BOP Cars") came out with their new small cars (Olds F-85, Pontiac Tempest, Buick Special). Back in GM's experimental phase (prior to the invention of product liability lawyers), a single body shell was used to spin off three very different platforms. The basic body is is unibody construction. Available was a new, all aluminum V-8, displacing 215 cubic inches. This engine was standard in the Buick and Olds, optional in the Pontiac.

Olds and Buick used it to build the conventional front engine/rear drive Cutlass (Jetfire) and Skylark models. Chevy used this same shell to create the Corvair, with rear engine, transaxle, and air cooling. Pontiac took the middle ground with the Tempest, mounting the engine in the front but using the Corvair transaxle to build a precursor to the Porsche 928 and the C5 Corvette. With the exception of the 'Vair, the cars were available with the Pontiac slant 4 (195 cubic inches out of a four cylinder! Literally a 389 Poncho cut in half!), the Buick V6, or the aforementioned aluminum V8. Only Olds had the turbo (Jetfire) available.

The original motor was aluminum from Buick, it used cast iron sleeves. The Olds versions got their compression ratio from the heads, and Buick's from the pistons. Buick Special, Skylark, Olds Jetfire, F-85, and the '61, '62 Tempest used a version of the motor with one extra head bolt. It will still bolt to a later Rover block, but with one extra hole.

No More Oldsmobiles
04-14-2005, 03:18 PM
Dude, that artice says 1963. The corvair came out in 1960. I want my cookie, and i want it NOW!!
Corvair in 1960, yes, but not turboed.

But actually you do get half a cookie: From Wikipedia:
Turbo Jetfire (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oldsmobile_V8_engine#Turbo_Jetfire)
For 1962 and 1963, a turbocharged version produced 215 hp and 300 ft.lbf. This was the first turbo car ever offered for sale.

However, it appears that the Corvair also got a factory turbo the same year. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chevrolet_Corvair_engine)

That was a darn good guess, abbid, though you had the year wrong.

abbid
04-14-2005, 03:27 PM
I have a friend named google, shes awesome!!

No More Oldsmobiles
04-14-2005, 03:33 PM
But if you googled for it, why did you say 1960 Corvair?

globi
04-14-2005, 03:35 PM
Here's the patent from 1905 (Alfred Buechi Switzerland :D).
http://www.motair.de/motair/seiten/4_turbo/1_geschichte/patent_1.jpg
Why is there no centennial turbo party?

Feras
04-14-2005, 03:35 PM
when i googled i got the bmw 2002 turbo and a bunch of claims on how it was the first turbo production car. wierd

No More Oldsmobiles
04-14-2005, 03:51 PM
?? Maybe their first production turbo?

abbid
04-14-2005, 03:53 PM
Google said it was produced in 1960, but was never put on sale until 1962-63..

No More Oldsmobiles
04-14-2005, 03:53 PM
Here's the patent from 1905 (Alfred Buechi Switzerland :D).

Why is there no centennial turbo party?
Maybe because the Einhunnertjahranniversarichturbo-geparty is not a snappy slogan?