View Full Version : Violate copyright laws = Computer destroyed


MRocks
06-18-2003, 10:18 PM
I posted this on the CL board too. Apparently one senator is proposing a law where if you download illegally 3 times your computer will be destroyed. Full article here:

http://www.411mania.com/music/news/...hp?news_id=3349

wakeech
06-18-2003, 10:55 PM
...just another know-nothing Republican fogey blowing smoke out his arse. nothing to be concerned about.

RotorGeek
06-18-2003, 11:36 PM
Someone here watches Tech-TV.

LiQuiDLaM
06-18-2003, 11:37 PM
what a joke, have fun getting the Anti-Hack laws changed first Mr.Senator!

B-Nez
06-19-2003, 12:05 AM
Quick, someone email him 3 copies of your own copyrighted work!

ibfubar2000
06-19-2003, 12:58 AM
so on the third download my computer is going to blow up in my face automatically??


do you hear a ticking sound?



tick.tick.tick...

SGC
06-19-2003, 02:26 AM
Dude! You gotta check out the latest mp3 from the Orin Hatch Experience, "F**k Due Process"! They even got John Ashcroft to sit in and lay down a WICKED dulcimer solo! I ripped it and uploaded them to

Oh, NM. Wrong forum.

SGC

Orin Hatch Experience ROCKS!!!!!

LesPaul
06-19-2003, 09:28 AM
The problem is a music industry business model that is outdated and flawed. The reality of the business is that the jeanie is out of the bottle. Whatever technology they come up with stop downloading will be worked-around. In this new world them must come up with something of value before people will pay (special art, access to web material, collectables, etc.).

Also, they need to offer some decent music. Now they just rehash bands that all sound the same. Check out http://iuma.com for tons of unsigned artists. Alot of garbage, but also some cool stuff that will never see the light of day under the current corporate model.

MRocks
06-19-2003, 10:20 AM
Originally posted by LesPaul
The problem is a music industry business model that is outdated and flawed. The reality of the business is that the jeanie is out of the bottle. Whatever technology they come up with stop downloading will be worked-around. In this new world them must come up with something of value before people will pay (special art, access to web material, collectables, etc.).

Also, they need to offer some decent music. Now they just rehash bands that all sound the same. Check out http://iuma.com for tons of unsigned artists. Alot of garbage, but also some cool stuff that will never see the light of day under the current corporate model.

Couldn't have said it better myself! The reason why I download music is because I'm into the whole techno/dance music scene and some of these songs are virtually unknown and hard to come by. Most of these songs are only available on cd single, and with some being only available on vinyl. That being said, I can't justify paying around $5 per each song I want, and I'm definitely not going to get a vinyl copy and then go through the trouble of getting a record player to hookup to my computer so I can copy that song to a disc. It just really adds up. And the pricing for cds is just getting so ridiculous. If there's a good mix cd, I might go out and buy it, but if there's an album with one or two good songs on it I can't see how that is worth the $17 price tag.

LesPaul
06-19-2003, 03:11 PM
http://www.techcentralstation.com/1051/techwrapper.jsp?PID=1051-250&CID=1051-061803B

Interesting perspective on the subject.

Rich
06-19-2003, 07:41 PM
I get a 404 error when I try to go to the originally linked site. Is anyone else having trouble finding it?

I assume that the proposed destruction of the computer is performed after a trial and whatnot. It seems a bit unusual for a punishment, but the thieves should be punished somehow. I don't see why anything above the typical escalating fine/jail sentence for stealing a CD from a store wouldn't be adequate.

Rich
06-19-2003, 08:02 PM
I found the article by going to the root site and traversing through it.

What a stupid idea. I'm not familiar with the anti-hacking laws that would get in the way, but I really don't like the idea of "guilty until proven innocent" thinking that this seems to imply. Actually, it's just "guilty", since there's no way to prove one's innocence until after the damage has been done. Take the theives to trial, convict them in court, then deal out the punishment that their crime deserves.

TJRX8
06-19-2003, 08:09 PM
Sounds like you'll get off anyway...because they plan on destroying the evidence. Then you sue for a newer better system.
:D

LesPaul
06-20-2003, 07:03 AM
Orin Hatch, the goofus that suggested destroying computers that download, apparently has pirated software on his own computer:

http://wired.com/news/politics/0,1283,59305,00.html

RobDickinson
06-20-2003, 07:07 AM
Heh we had a law brough into the UK a year or two ago.

Part of it was You HAD to hand over keys to any encrypted document that was on your PC or face 2 years in jail.

So our Home office minister ( = your sec of state?) got zillions of encrypted documents mailed to him from all over.. and not 1 key. Changed that law damned fast...