I went to my dealer and spoke with the service manager about the rust on the rotors and the fact that I had only had the car since late Jan. He did some research and found a bulletin that spec'd the repair. It calls for priming and then painting rotors w/silver paint. It also states that rotors can be replaced if repair does not meet customer satisfaction (but why replace they'd just be rusted again in a week).

I still think this is a case-by-case decision and because my car was so new, they did it. I wouldn't expect that it will be automatic though.

Bill

i'm gonna ditch these stock brakes soon as they go up. brembo factory replacements just seem to be better for me :D

nice post though

I went to my dealer and spoke with the service manager about the rust on the rotors and the fact that I had only had the car since late Jan. He did some research and found a bulletin that spec'd the repair. It calls for priming and then painting rotors w/silver paint. It also states that rotors can be replaced if repair does not meet customer satisfaction (but why replace they'd just be rusted again in a week).

Bill

Do you have a copy of the Bulletin number or even better a link? I can't seem to find one and was under the impression none existed.

Thank you for the info. I am actually going tomorrow to talk to the service manager about the same issue. My car came with the rust problem as it sat in a warehouse before it was sold. The sales manager told me that it would eventually come off as I drive the car, some has, but I doubt very much that it will all come off. Any extra info would be great.

Artzy8 please get your service manager to tell you what the number of the service bulletin is that he is referencing. There are many of us that would be interested to talk that info over with our service managers!

Mazda Repair Information

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RUST ON BRAKE ROTOR HUBS
Applicable Models
Model Starting S/N Ending S/N
2001 PROTEGE 00000000 ZZZZZZZZ
2002 PROTEGE 00000000 ZZZZZZZZ
2003 PROTEGE 00000000 ZZZZZZZZ
2004 RX8 00000000 ZZZZZZZZ
1999 MIATA 00000000 ZZZZZZZZ
2000 MIATA 00000000 ZZZZZZZZ
2001 MIATA 00000000 ZZZZZZZZ
2002 MIATA 00000000 ZZZZZZZZ
2003 MIATA 00000000 ZZZZZZZZ
2004 MIATA 00000000 ZZZZZZZZ
1999 MILLENIA 00000000 ZZZZZZZZ
2000 MILLENIA 00000000 ZZZZZZZZ
2001 MILLENIA 00000000 ZZZZZZZZ
2002 MILLENIA 00000000 ZZZZZZZZ
2003 MILLENIA 00000000 ZZZZZZZZ

0003559 Dealer Repair Information
Rust can be seen on the brake rotor hub area when looking between the wheel spokes. The rust is most visible on vehicles equipped with 17" chrome wheels. 1. Remove rust from hub(s) by sanding. 2. Clean/prep hub surface for primer. 3. Mask off brake rotor area. 4. Apply primer around entire hub area. 5. Once primer dries, apply a heat type silver paint to the affected area to repair the vehicle. Note: Replace the rotor(s) only if the affected area cannot be repaired enough to satisfy the customer.

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Let there be no doubt...you are the MAN!! :D

Mazda Repair Information

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RUST ON BRAKE ROTOR HUBS
Applicable Models
Model Starting S/N Ending S/N
2001 PROTEGE 00000000 ZZZZZZZZ
2002 PROTEGE 00000000 ZZZZZZZZ
2003 PROTEGE 00000000 ZZZZZZZZ
2004 RX8 00000000 ZZZZZZZZ
1999 MIATA 00000000 ZZZZZZZZ
2000 MIATA 00000000 ZZZZZZZZ
2001 MIATA 00000000 ZZZZZZZZ
2002 MIATA 00000000 ZZZZZZZZ
2003 MIATA 00000000 ZZZZZZZZ
2004 MIATA 00000000 ZZZZZZZZ
1999 MILLENIA 00000000 ZZZZZZZZ
2000 MILLENIA 00000000 ZZZZZZZZ
2001 MILLENIA 00000000 ZZZZZZZZ
2002 MILLENIA 00000000 ZZZZZZZZ
2003 MILLENIA 00000000 ZZZZZZZZ

0003559 Dealer Repair Information
Rust can be seen on the brake rotor hub area when looking between the wheel spokes. The rust is most visible on vehicles equipped with 17" chrome wheels. 1. Remove rust from hub(s) by sanding. 2. Clean/prep hub surface for primer. 3. Mask off brake rotor area. 4. Apply primer around entire hub area. 5. Once primer dries, apply a heat type silver paint to the affected area to repair the vehicle. Note: Replace the rotor(s) only if the affected area cannot be repaired enough to satisfy the customer.

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Your dealer will have to dig for this one. It is NOT a TSB. Have them do a ESI search with 2004/RX8/Brakes. It will post as an "MRI" (mazda repair information)

Let there be no doubt...you are the MAN!! :D


Thank you... :o

Thanx a lot man.............

Snap-on...thanks as always

I need to talk to you...you on AIM?

I need to talk to you...you on AIM?

sure go right ahead bud

You are Da'man

Just got the SB but I see Snap already took care of business.

My service manager said he was sending it out to their body shop (which is a local Body Shop they outsource to I imagine), I am going to see if I can talk with the Body Shop about painting the Calipers at the same time.

Whadaya think they would charge seeing that Mazda is paying labor to remove the wheels?

Went to Mazda service and presented the manager the Dealer Repair Info. that I printed off this thread and they are taking care of the problem Monday morning. Worth to bring it with you.

my mazda people are such dicks that they won't do ANYTHING for free unless there is a recall...they won't do anything else...grrrrrr

My service manager said the regional Mazda rep was not allowing them to take care of this problem.

He said something about in other parts of the country they would paint them for free once but they wouldn't in the midwest because the paint would just rub-off. Personally, I think it is BS. I painted my calipers on another car and they looked fine after a winter of driving in the snow and salt.

I'm not too bothered though because a $9 can of spray paint from Pep Boys will take care of it and I can hit my calipers at the same time...

Yea my mazda dealer are a bunch of bs ers with everything but ima try to use that dealer code to my advantage. thanks for posting.

Reading this makes me wonder because he did not mention price to me, just asked me to make an appointment. I also just bought the car on Friday. I will call and find out tomorrow.

How can the dealers tell you it is not covered? It's right there in black an white..

The district rep has no dog in this fight. If the stealership tells you he does they are blowing smoke up your %$#

Noticed the model listed for Rx8 is 2004...

Was there an update for 2005, or did they do something to the 2005 rotors to prevent the rust? I remember seeing rust on mine shortly after I got it.. but since I knew it was an 'issue' and haven't bothered painting it yet.. i keep forgetting to check to see if it's still there.

Figure when I take the car in for it's first service, I might have em do it. (If I don't paint em first).

i tried to get this done, my dealership said that it is natural and happens to all 8's and painting them would "hurt the ventilation of the brakes". F*ckin bs man, so what does a man have to say to get this done?

why would you want the brake rotors painted?
the extra paint layer wouldnt work well with the compound of the brake pad.... would it?
is it safe to do so... it is normal for rotors to rust, just go for a drive, it will come off :)

How can the dealers tell you it is not covered? It's right there in black an white..

The district rep has no dog in this fight. If the stealership tells you he does they are blowing smoke up your %$#

SnapOn

I first called Mazda USA and asked them the policy on Rusted rotors and after a few mins on hold the rep said there was no policy and it had been done on a case basis. Uninformed or fabricators?

It was not until I went to the Service Mgr at Rosenthal G-burg Mazda and he took a couple of days to really reseach it, that I found out about the policy and got the appointment scheduled... On Mazda, I might add.

why would you want the brake rotors painted?
the extra paint layer wouldnt work well with the compound of the brake pad.... would it?
is it safe to do so... it is normal for rotors to rust, just go for a drive, it will come off

The only areas painted are the front lug face and the outer rim.

Mazda Repair Information

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RUST ON BRAKE ROTOR HUBS
Applicable Models
Model Starting S/N Ending S/N
2001 PROTEGE 00000000 ZZZZZZZZ
2002 PROTEGE 00000000 ZZZZZZZZ
2003 PROTEGE 00000000 ZZZZZZZZ
2004 RX8 00000000 ZZZZZZZZ
1999 MIATA 00000000 ZZZZZZZZ
2000 MIATA 00000000 ZZZZZZZZ
2001 MIATA 00000000 ZZZZZZZZ
2002 MIATA 00000000 ZZZZZZZZ
2003 MIATA 00000000 ZZZZZZZZ
2004 MIATA 00000000 ZZZZZZZZ
1999 MILLENIA 00000000 ZZZZZZZZ
2000 MILLENIA 00000000 ZZZZZZZZ
2001 MILLENIA 00000000 ZZZZZZZZ
2002 MILLENIA 00000000 ZZZZZZZZ
2003 MILLENIA 00000000 ZZZZZZZZ

0003559 Dealer Repair Information
Rust can be seen on the brake rotor hub area when looking between the wheel spokes. The rust is most visible on vehicles equipped with 17" chrome wheels. 1. Remove rust from hub(s) by sanding. 2. Clean/prep hub surface for primer. 3. Mask off brake rotor area. 4. Apply primer around entire hub area. 5. Once primer dries, apply a heat type silver paint to the affected area to repair the vehicle. Note: Replace the rotor(s) only if the affected area cannot be repaired enough to satisfy the customer.

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Snap-On, you are just too good to be true....I can't believe we have an inside man :cool:

Well if they get enogh complaints and repair them then the feed back will get back to manufacturing and they will address the problem on the next purchase of rotors.

Otherwise they will continued to get bad parts from their supplier.

why would you want the brake rotors painted?
the extra paint layer wouldnt work well with the compound of the brake pad.... would it?
is it safe to do so... it is normal for rotors to rust, just go for a drive, it will come off


Did you made it clear that it was for the brake rotor HUBS? I can see why they would dismiss the caller as some hard-to-please whiner if it looks like the caller doesn't know what he/she is talking about. But on the other hand, the call center should have a database of complains so that they can piece two and two together and act on it.

Snap On - Are they doing this for the )5's as well? I noticed mine are rusty as hell as well.......that rymed didn't it?

Does any one have an idea how long this procedure takes? I have been waiting for two days for my car to be done.

I took snap-on's MRI to a dealer and showed them some rust on a rotor. He said he would investigate the issue. I come back some time later to retrieve the vehicle and he mentions that they ordered 2 new rotors!!?? He states that two rotors showed rust and since they've been painted before, he ordered 2 new... In my mind I'm thinking they are just going to rust again... I only wanted him to paint the exisiting rotors not order brand new ones.... :(

Manager is telling me that they had to cut them and some other bs. I don't understand why, but because they needed to cut them, that this is the reason why is taking so long. BS BS and more BS. But at least they are getting done. Anyone has any idea what kind of issues I am going to have (if any) with these cut rotors?

Thanks to Snap-On, I printed the MRI he posted, and took that to the dealer. He fixed the rusty-rotors for me! :) yay! :)

I took snap-on's MRI to a dealer and showed them some rust on a rotor. He said he would investigate the issue. I come back some time later to retrieve the vehicle and he mentions that they ordered 2 new rotors!!?? He states that two rotors showed rust and since they've been painted before, he ordered 2 new... In my mind I'm thinking they are just going to rust again... I only wanted him to paint the exisiting rotors not order brand new ones.... :(

Request that they be painted per the MRI before he installs them...or hit them with high temp paint yourself when they come in...

Request that they be painted per the MRI before he installs them...or hit them with high temp paint yourself when they come in...Yeah thanks.. I'm gonna take care of it... I was just surprised they moved to buy 2 new rotors... makes no sense... :confused:

Does any one have an idea how long this procedure takes? I have been waiting for two days for my car to be done.


I just got mine back from Rosenthal Gburg Mazda. I brought the car in on Thursday AM and got it back today (Friday) at 2:00pm.

The dealership sent it out to a body shop.

See my positive review: http://www.rx8club.com/showthread.php?t=56606

Hello
Do you have a picture of how bad was it? What did you tell them. I got my car 2 weeks ago, and took a picture. Not sure what i should do.

Two weeks after my rotors were fixed, I just noticed today that the rust is already starting to come out agian on the rear hubs. Does this mean that the dealer did not use the proper paint to get this job done, or is this the norm with this type of procedure? I am getting really frustraded with this issue.

I painted mine myself this weekend. To me the rusting rotors were not any worse than what I've seen on other vehicles. However, the OEM rims make it very apparent. It took quit a long time to mask, paint and reassemble. But in the end I think the job is better than what a dealer would provide.

I painted mine myself this weekend. To me the rusting rotors were not any worse than what I've seen on other vehicles. However, the OEM rims make it very apparent. It took quit a long time to mask, paint and reassemble. But in the end I think the job is better than what a dealer would provide.

I think you are right...I may DIY it and the calipers this weekedn

(silver rotor hub and purple caliper)

Work of art, DosDog. I'm doing mine.

DosDog, how 'bout a little tutorial for us rookies?

I painted mine myself this weekend. To me the rusting rotors were not any worse than what I've seen on other vehicles. However, the OEM rims make it very apparent. It took quit a long time to mask, paint and reassemble. But in the end I think the job is better than what a dealer would provide.
Very nice job!
I second the DIY request!

Interesting topic in this thread. I have not go the time to DIY the rotors but I suspect If i had, i`d probably be more consciensous than my dealer. I`m going to go for new rotors and every time they rust, new rotors again. If that works, hopefully, i`ll become such a pain in the arse that Mazda may feel influenced to actually go procure some rotors with a proper coating on them. (this is probably wishful thinking). Its all down to profits at Mazda...a proper coating would probably cost them about $0.80 a rotor or $3.20 a car. At something like 70,000 cars a year - you can do the math!

Watch my space

Tom

I am painting my rotors next week. I have a velocity red 8 and I am painting the calipers to match. While I am down there I am going to paint the rotors. What do you guys think about black instead of the aluminum color? I have stock rims. I think that the black will help hide any inperfections that appear. After all they are just rotors and will rust no matter how well you paint them.

I just wanted to let you all know that I took my RX8 (04 with 25K) in to have the brakes done.
However after reading this thread I printed off the SB that snapon posted.
In short they repainted the rotors silver (with a promise if that does not solve it they would replace them next time).
Also they did not charge me for the pads and turning of the rotors!!

Saved close to $300 by taking this along.

Now Im sure that this is very subjective as dealers may differ, but if it helps, I took mine to the Kerry Mazda Dealership in Florence KY.

It may be worth a shot for you other local guys in Cincinnati, NKy and Indiania!

Just thought I would share this with you all.

Bump

how do i know if there is rust on my rotors

how do i know if there is rust on my rotors

:rolleyes: if there is rust (red/brown colored speckles and spots) on the brake rotors which is the center of the discs which are located behind the rims (rims are wheels and are usually wrapped with a black rubber called a 'tire')

how do i know if there is rust on my rotors

Here's a gallery of them:
http://www.rx8club.com/showthread.php?t=49027

so no one has answered will this bulletin work with an 05. i have had my car just barely 2 months and the rotors are now a nice copper/gold color. i live in so cal so they barely see water. it doesn't seem like the issue has been fixed with the 05's.

snap on will this bulletin work with 05 rx-8s?

I recently took my 04 into the shop for an oil change. my car has less than 9k on it. anyways. i asked them if they can take a look at the rotors. I asked if they could paint them, but he said that the paint would probably wear off. so he put in a note on the work order. It also turns out that i had a small recall that needed to be done so i had to pickup the car later. upon calling to see when i can pick it up, the service manager told me that they'll hold the car until tomorrow because they ordered new rotors and would replace them. I immediately asked them if it was for free and he said yep. So i don't know if anyone else had this done. maybe i was just lucky. hopefully they give me rustless rotors :D

Anyone in the Midwest get there dealer to take care of this gratis?

My 8 is currently in for recall work, and I mentioned the hub rust. They say they will grind it and coat it with some sort of silver colored sealant...but it'll cost me $90. I told them that other dealers were doing something similar, but for free...because the rust is "excessive." Service lady said they could not because we're in the Midwest and the road conditions are so harsh that this is expected.

Anyone in the Midwest get there dealer to take care of this gratis?

My 8 is currently in for recall work, and I mentioned the hub rust. They say they will grind it and coat it with some sort of silver colored sealant...but it'll cost me $90. I told them that other dealers were doing something similar, but for free...because the rust is "excessive." Service lady said they could not because we're in the Midwest and the road conditions are so harsh that this is expected.

that service lady is totally bullshitting you but Mazda did pull this free service

forget paying them $90 that is for sure...just do the best and right thing...

Buy a caliper/rotor painting kit (G2 kit is best)...doing it yourself will turn out 100 times better anyhow...and you can choose the colors for the Calipers and/or rotors

that service lady is totally bullshitting you but Mazda did pull this free service

forget paying them $90 that is for sure...just do the best and right thing...

Buy a caliper/rotor painting kit (G2 kit is best)...doing it yourself will turn out 100 times better anyhow...and you can choose the colors for the Calipers and/or rotors
what about removing the current rust first? not sure i have the skills/equipment for that

EDIT: nevermind...I just got off the phone with the service rep and they've already got 2 of them grinded. too late for me i guess. I just hope this sealant that they are putting on holds up.

I just had mine re-painted yesterday by the dealership. They look great and I didn't pay a penny.
According to the receipt the dealer just charged it back to Mazda as warranty work done.

Here's a gallery of them:
http://www.rx8club.com/showthread.php?t=49027
Most of these photos also show rust on the friction surface of the rotor. Ignore that; it's normal, and scrapes off with the first couple brakings (that's why the brakes sound scratchy on a wet morning). The ugly rust on the center hub of the rotor is not normal. Mine were repainted (warranty) several months ago and still look good.

I just had mine re-painted yesterday by the dealership. They look great and I didn't pay a penny.
According to the receipt the dealer just charged it back to Mazda as warranty work done.

Can you post a full scan of the receipt please :)

also did they repaint the rotors and calipers or just rotors? thanks bud

Can you post a full scan of the receipt please :)

also did they repaint the rotors and calipers or just rotors? thanks bud


They just painted the rotors. Hey Jason, Because I recently went to Linux I can't seem to get my scan function on my printer to work yet.
What I will do is take a picture of the invoice and try to post it here or email it to you. give me a little time to post it.

thanks tigger :)

Here it is. I hope this will do.

thanks I'll see if it works :D

If it helps, as soon as I mention my rusty rotors the service manager stated that Mazda is covering it under warranty.

so no one has answered will this bulletin work with an 05. i have had my car just barely 2 months and the rotors are now a nice copper/gold color. i live in so cal so they barely see water. it doesn't seem like the issue has been fixed with the 05's.

snap on will this bulletin work with 05 rx-8s?
Tiggerlee just got his done and it's an '05.


Looks like I'll be making a trip to the dealership soon to have mine done. :)

got mine done no problems whatsoever. They even told me if it rusts again they will replace the whole rotor :).

I LOVE BURLINGAME MAZDA!

Dealer sanded and repainted the rotors. I was told to bring it back if the rust stain shows again.

Nedor

haha mazda won't paint mine. haha

I just did mine myself. Took a small wire brush to the rust and got the worst of it off, then sprayed a high-temp (1200 deg) Duplicolor paint on. The edges are looking a little ratty now (5 months later) but other than that it's holding up fine.

Also, electrical tape works really well for masking the contact area - it conforms to the curve real easily.

haha mazda won't paint mine. haha
Whats up Trigger...long time no see.

What dealership did you go to? Why won't they paint them?

I just sprayed the entire rotor. The break pads do a prefect job of removing excess paint.

please say you are kidding RR :mdrmed:

haha mazda won't paint mine. haha
My dealership is the same way. They said it USED to be a TSB, but Mazda has removed it, and it's no longer covered under waranty.

I can't get mine done anywhere in Utah. I have contacted D, Dahle about it and Bountiful Mazda. They all have told me no. Whatever, I will be painting rotors and calipers in Spring.

Can't get mine done either, so I put a comment about it on the back of my survey thing I got in the mail from mazda. Probably won't help but worth a shot.

Got mine painted today , Ferman Mazda in Tampa sanded and painted them for me, under warranty, also said if it comes back bring it back to us.

I have had my 2004 8 for about 18 months and I just took it to my dealer (Tom Bush Mazda in Jacksonville, FL and they had no issues with painting my rotors. In fact while they were in the process of doing the work, the technician went ahead and replaced my brake pads as well for no charge.

Thanks for the information on the bulletin....

MJ

Whats up Trigger...long time no see.

What dealership did you go to? Why won't they paint them?
oh hey wsup long time. they said it won't do anything and it isnt in their computer. since this was a MRI and not a TSB where they can see it pop up. its not a big deal but i did want it to get it painted.

thanks I'll see if it works :D

Hey, Magellen, have you been able to get this work done? If so, which dealership did you take it to? I'm from Mpls as well, and I'd like to have the problem taken care of, too! Mine is an '05 with 4K miles and the rotor is already very rusted!!

Your dealer will have to dig for this one. It is NOT a TSB. Have them do a ESI search with 2004/RX8/Brakes. It will post as an "MRI" (mazda repair information)


What is an "ESI search" ? And although I believe someone got work done on a 2005 RX8 in this thread the provided MRI only states it is good for a 2004 RX8. Has there been an update to include 2005 RX8 ?

MY dealership in KC replaced my front rotors and painted the hubs of all 4 rotors in addition to painting the calipers. the paint on the hubs is holding up well but the calipers are not fairing so well. Half of the paint has come off and looks worse than before. In addition, the painting of the rotor hubs does nothing for the even bigger problem, the rust i n the rotor vanes that spewing rust water everywhere when wet. Nothing worse than cleaning nice wheels and drive off and a rust ring appearing.

I can't take this rust issue anymore and I'm now in the process of ridding myself of this problem. 3 Step process here:

1. Replace rotors with zinc or e-coated rotors (this takes care of the hub and vanes).
2. Powercoat the calipers.
3. Buy new backplates and powder coat them as well.
4. Replace brake pads and brake lines to round out the process.

Pics are forthcoming as the work happens. wish me luck

What is an "ESI search" ? And although I believe someone got work done on a 2005 RX8 in this thread the provided MRI only states it is good for a 2004 RX8. Has there been an update to include 2005 RX8 ?


I might be the '05 you were referring to. I didn't take any print outs or anything in with me when I asked about the rotors. I just mentioned it to the service manager and he said they'd take care of it under warranty. I'm sure this isn't the rule when it comes to service dept's. One may do it while another might not. Just depends I guess. If they've got any other 8's on the lot walk over and take a look at their rotors. If you see they are rusty as well you might be able to convince them to fix it by bring up that fact. May or may not work but if you really don't want to do them yourself then it's worth a shot. :)

Just got mine back from the dealership today with just a hair over 10,000 miles on the car they did the work for me and I had never been to this dealership before becauset it's out of town for me. Brown's Mazda in Fairfax VA. They also did the slow start recall and my car runs WAY smoother now. Now I just get the chance to wash my car tommorow and I'll be good to go. Here's a tip. If they don't guarantee they are going to do the rotors when you drop the car off, leave the bulletin on the passenger seat (helps if the rest of the car is clean). Then somehow miraculously when they have the car they *FIND* the MRI or whatever it was. It's a good job to get done, they look 1000 times better.

I bought my 8 in November of 04 and mine were just starting to rust a little so I painted the rotor, calipers and back plate. I used black caliper paint and I put like 6 coates and they still look good.

UPDATE: I talked to my dealership last week about my brake rust problems and I was told by the service manager to bring the car in so they can look at it and take pics to send them on to Mazda to see how they want to address my concerns. The dealer took pics of the calipers and rotors and told me they were going to speak to the district rep and get back with me this week.



They called me today and told me that Mazda had authorized them to replace my rotors with the new ones from the ’06 model. These are supposed to have a coating on the rotor hub and the fins are supposed to be coated as well.



I informed the service manger that is was only one of the issues I had with the rust problem. There still is the rust from the calipers as well as the back plates. I told him that I had a plan to resolve this myself with the powder coating of the calipers and back plate and the addition of zinc/e-coated rotors. I also explained to him my dilemma about getting my set of calipers powder coated but needing someone to take my calipers off and house my car while this work was done. He verbally agreed to do this work for me since I was willing to spend the $$ to get the calipers powder coated. He wanted to talk this over with Mazda as well, so I was told he would call me back when he knew something.



2 hours go by and I get a call back from the service manager with good news. Mazda has not only agreed to replace the rotors (4), but all calipers (the new ones from the ’06 – rust treated ones), and the new styled backing plates (treated as well). The dealership is in the process of ordering all the parts and I will schedule an appointment for next week to look over these new parts.



Mazda had issue with the powder coating of the calipers due to the complete tear down of the calipers and possible failure due to improper prep work during the powder coat process. Mazda didn’t want the dealer or themselves liable for this the calipers.



The crazy part about this is that I started ordering all the parts I would need to powder coat my calipers and back plates, replace my pads and to replace my rotors with cross drilled/slotted ones. I have canceled the orders I could, but I still have the new rotors on their way with the Axxis ult pads. If the new dealer rotors aren’t up to snuff I will just have the other rotors installed.



I will take pics of all the new parts with part #’s so others can get the process going at their dealerships.




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MY dealership in KC replaced my front rotors and painted the hubs of all 4 rotors in addition to painting the calipers. the paint on the hubs is holding up well but the calipers are not fairing (http://www.rx8club.com/showthread.php?p=1299675#) so well. Half of the paint has come off and looks worse than before. In addition, the painting of the rotor hubs does nothing for the even bigger problem, the rust i n the rotor vanes that spewing rust water everywhere when wet. Nothing worse than cleaning nice wheels (http://www.rx8club.com/showthread.php?p=1299675#) and drive off and a rust ring appearing.

I can't take this rust issue anymore and I'm now in the process of ridding myself of this problem. 3 Step process here:

1. Replace rotors with zinc or e-coated rotors (this takes care of the hub and vanes).
2. Powercoat the calipers.
3. Buy new backplates and powder coat them as well.
4. Replace brake (http://www.rx8club.com/showthread.php?p=1299675#) pads and brake lines (http://www.rx8club.com/showthread.php?p=1299675#) to round out the process.

i got mine painted yesterday along w/ my 12k mile service... the silver paint isn't the nicest looking but its definitely nicer than having all that rust on there...

My dealer sux. I went in for an oil change and mentioned the rusted rotors, which look pretty bad. He said he'd look into it. When I got my car back, he didn't even mention the rotors at all, but my oil change was free...wtf?

I hate having to argue with people. They should just do what's right the first time :-/

I just got mine painted on my 05 at Fitzgerald in Frederick, MD. When I went in for my first oil change when I had about 500 miles on the car I mentioned it and they said they wouldn't do anything.
This time around I mentioned the ESI search, the service manager was nice and said he would try to look it up but they haven't ever covered this in the past. He looked it up (same one that was posted here but from mazdas site) Called his regional manager to do a CYA I suppose and then took care of the problem for me.

They did a really good job and used a high quality paint. Only thing that ticked me off is they got some of the paint on my red calipers =\ but in about 10minutes I had that fixed myself.

The silver looks way better than the bare metal did even without the rust.

Is there a milage cap or year cap on this issue, i just bought a "new to me" 2004 and have this issue, are they going to give me crap about not being the original owner, thanks in advance

I saw today on my new 06 that I have the rust problem, too, so I am going to tell them about it when I am getting a key programmed.

bump*

im at rosenthal right now, but i cant find the ACTUAL TSB. not the dubious "copy/paste" snap-on posted.

does anyone have the TSB? i'd need the actual tsb for them to do the work.