My RX8 was involved in an accident in which a Semi decided to back into it twice.. Images are below...
http://www.customcougars.com/rx8/rx8damage01.jpg

http://www.customcougars.com/rx8/rx8damage02.jpg

So instead of doing stock, I decided to order all Carbon Creations CF Products... CF Fenders, CF Front, CF Hood, CF Sides, CF Rear, CF Trunk...

ONLY THE TRUNK FIT.

Check out the images below

http://www.customcougars.com/rx8/rx8cchoodfitment.jpg

http://www.customcougars.com/rx8/rx8ccfrontbumperfitment.jpg

http://www.customcougars.com/rx8/rx8ccpassfenderfitment.jpg

http://www.customcougars.com/rx8/rx8ccrearbumperfitment.jpg

As you can see the side skirts ARE NOT installed because they DON'T Fit... they are too long...

If this was fiberglass and cost around $1000, I could understand. However This is Carbon Fiber which is not fixable without messing up the visual characteristics of the parts and has a retail value of over $4500.

So what does Carbon Creations say about this? Fitment was good on our SEMA car and its not gonna fit 100% and they can't offer any refunds. This is insane since even the mounting taps on the bumpers are WRONG. Heck even the factory turn lamps don't fit in the front bumper...

In Conclusion... this kit is CRAP from them out the box. My installer has been making molds for a fiberglass and carbon company for years. It has taken him over 3 weeks to come up with ways just to get it to look SOMEWHAT decent.

that is a LOT of carbon fiber. i agree that it looks like crap.

im sorry to hear to accident. and i like carbon fiber. but dang! thats A LOT of carbon fiber on a stock car. it looks odd no?

sorry it does'nt fit..that really sucks paying so much and gettign let down so hard:( i feel for you....infact i'm sharping my knives and dusting off my slug-throwers time to monkey stomp carbon creations

Yea, I am not gonna deny that at this time the carbon on the stock red car looks like crap, I was talking about the fitment. The car is sponsored by BASF and was going to be in several booths but the fitment has delayed the paint and pearl job we had planned this month. I was simply posting the quality of the poor fitment they offer on some high $$$ products.

Could you keep us updated as to exactly what is being done to remedy the fitment issue and of course post pictures after all is complete.

Will do... should have some completed photos this evening... I am located in Virginia and I am having the car done in San Francisco CA... So I am flying out there Friday and will be driving it across the usa

Im not in the financial industry, but im going to offer this route up. If you paid for this via a credit card I would contact the credit card company regarding filing a "dispute" over the charge.
Obviously you have not received the product that was expected.

OMG that looks like shit! I think thats too much carbon for a car. Eeekk

OMG that looks like shit! I think thats too much carbon for a car. Eeekk
er. lol

any pics of the car as a whole?

Like he said before, not the carbon fiber part.. but the fitment. I'm surprised Carbon Creations/Extreme Dimensions haven't done something to remedy this situation instead of.. "tough luck." If you are trully disappointed with the product and it is not as promised, you can file a dispute with the credit card company. Then if that still doesn't work, there are other ways to handle this situation... since you did spend a lot of money for the parts, a lawsuit could be brought up... contacting the BBB..etc.

Where's Spicy in this response? :P

I dont know if it fitted right then the front half of the car would be sweet. I love the way the carbon fenders, hood, and bumber look together but the color contrast to the red middle of the cars just clashy. Sucks that it doesnt fit after all that money too.

wow that sucks! hope you could get back ur money.

sorry to hear that. hope it all turned out okay for you.
if you look at their original car, you can sort of see some gaps here and there, and being a C/F version, you can chop and reshape them to make them fit better.
good luck and pls let us know what procedures were made to make it fit/look half decent by your installer.

that sucks best of luck
but im sure this thread will be helping the next Extreme Dimensions buyer

dam… the fitment is terrible :mad: :mad:
I bought ED’s urethane kit and haven’t had time to fit them yet… I noticed few days ago that they are not listed as a vendor any more… This makes me really nervous….
Anyone here w/ Extreme dimension’s urethane kit? If so, how’s the fitment?

ED is here in irvine , cali

that sucks if they dont correct this problem
that is too much money
I saw there rx8 car at HIN in cali last week and it had all the same cf parts you do but they seemed to fit. They probably took more time on that show car which is not fair to you.


outlaw is right

where is ED to comment on this?

I can only join the others and offer my condolences... that fitment is shit. Hope you get this issue sorted out.

My personal opinion is though that even if the fit was perfect, that much carbon fiber would look bad with any color. I simply can't understand the fascination with replacing this many body panels with CF. It looks out of place.

geez thats a bad fit..sorry to hear of your unfortunate event...get your money back man!! or tell them to send you a new kit!...it's really bad where the hood and the front bumper meet

holy smokes!!! :eek: The fitment is bad as others have commented, I'm sorry to see that. Regardless, isn't there some type of general return policy in California? You give them $4,500 and they run for the hills? That doesn't sound right???

Well we got the kit fitted to the best of the installers abilities... I am gonna resize pics and try to get them up asap

Images of the Completed Project... Overall this took about 2 weeks now to get to this status and alot of cash had to be shelled out, but good thing its a close friend.

http://www.creativecompacts.com/Merchant2/graphics/00000001/rx8/PICT0002.JPG

http://www.creativecompacts.com/Merchant2/graphics/00000001/rx8/PICT0005.JPG

http://www.creativecompacts.com/Merchant2/graphics/00000001/rx8/PICT0006.JPG

http://www.creativecompacts.com/Merchant2/graphics/00000001/rx8/PICT0007.JPG

http://www.creativecompacts.com/Merchant2/graphics/00000001/rx8/PICT0009.JPG

http://www.creativecompacts.com/Merchant2/graphics/00000001/rx8/PICT0010.JPG

http://www.creativecompacts.com/Merchant2/graphics/00000001/rx8/PICT0011.JPG

http://www.creativecompacts.com/Merchant2/graphics/00000001/rx8/PICT0013.JPG

http://www.creativecompacts.com/Merchant2/graphics/00000001/rx8/PICT0014.JPG

http://www.creativecompacts.com/Merchant2/graphics/00000001/rx8/PICT0016.JPG

http://www.creativecompacts.com/Merchant2/graphics/00000001/rx8/PICT0017.JPG

http://www.creativecompacts.com/Merchant2/graphics/00000001/rx8/PICT0019.JPG

http://www.creativecompacts.com/Merchant2/graphics/00000001/rx8/PICT0020.JPG

http://www.creativecompacts.com/Merchant2/graphics/00000001/rx8/PICT0021.JPG

http://www.creativecompacts.com/Merchant2/graphics/00000001/rx8/PICT0022.JPG

http://www.creativecompacts.com/Merchant2/graphics/00000001/rx8/PICT0023.JPG

Maybe that's what they meant, needs a lot of work to get it fitted right. It looks pretty good in the newer pix. I like it... are you planning to repaint the red part? To Titanium grey or Black would work with the Carbon. Even the X-men Dark blue... or go crazy and do custom color... Purple!

Question, for the rear, is that the rear exhausts popping out in the middle part? I know that the real MS Kit has these brackets that pushes that part down so that you can't see the canisters....

Boy, that UGLY!!!!

well the fitment looks better...how much did it taek to get to that...probable a hella lot of money:(

Better Business Bureau. I would have made a claim with them.

I think you should paint your car black also. It would look better with the CF.
And then polish the CF surface some, so the shine look even.
Some sort of wing, Mazdaspeed, GT or just the small Mazda OEM wing behind.
Bigger Exhaust, Borla maybe, not too big like HKS, might singe your carbon enclosure.
and Rims of course.
Im pretty sure you will have a nice looking car finally, thats ALOT of carbon!

Sorry to hear your problems with extreme dimensions, and thanks for bringing it up here so we wont fall victim to those guys too.

The fitment is better in the later pics, but as a whole, this CF overdose still is ugly IMO. The only way for this car to look good is if you'd go now all out and changed every single panel to carbon fiber. Otherwise, it kinda looks like a car that due to an accident had a bunch of the body panels replaced and was awaiting a proper paint job...

With a BASF Sponsorship, rest assured the car will be repainted... this post is not to pick on the car... I have built some of the best cars in the nation, this is just the beginning stages of the process... My car has been in Cali since last March for product development of 3 new body kits and I have been unable to touch the car.

dude idc what anyone says but i like it i just think the red doesnt go too well it looks a bit dull but i LOVE CF

ps you said you're gonna paint it... to what? are you painting over the CF?

paint that car black ASAP.

^^the Mugatu has spoken...all should listen:D

^^the Mugatu has spoken...all should listen:D

:D

Some of the top cars in the Nation...Hmmm can we see some of them???

As for ED... I like the idea but their SEMA car looked like complete and total shit. I hope that you do something about the crazy contrast between the red and C/F.

Sorry to be so harsh, but C/F is becoming soooooo played out. I painted my C/F Mint Blue wing because it just get sick of seeing ZX2's and 80 Civics with C/F hoods and interior kits.

Since your going for that carbon fiber look, I say get the carbon rear doors too. Work in progess always look abit off, but I bet this car is gonna be sick when it's done.

Some of the top cars in the Nation...Hmmm can we see some of them???

As for ED... I like the idea but their SEMA car looked like complete and total shit. I hope that you do something about the crazy contrast between the red and C/F.

Sorry to be so harsh, but C/F is becoming soooooo played out. I painted my C/F Mint Blue wing because it just get sick of seeing ZX2's and 80 Civics with C/F hoods and interior kits.

http://customcougars.com/mediacoverage/index.htm

2nd best car in the nation in 2003 under NCCA

If you paid with a credit card, you may be able to get your credit card company to reverse the charges and tell them you won't pay until they make it right.

Were you planning on painting over the carbon fiber red? If so I don't see the problem--but I agree with everyone else--carbon fiber is a nice accent but can be easily overdone.

Call me crazy, but I would paint the carbon fiber red to match the car. That way, you would save weight and look nice.

Sorry to hear about this man.

Don't buy carbon fibre though, it is a rip off. I don't even know what Grade A carbon fibre means, they don't use that term in the aerospace industry. It sounds as if it is a wet layup which is really shitty and will warp because there is often air bubbles in the material. The prescence of air bubbles also means the structural rigidity is shit, defeating the purpose of the material. The carbon fibre you see on aircraft/race cars/enzo's etc is not this shit, it is a dry cf which is of far higher quality.

Think of cf like wood. You have oak and cherry, that is nice wood, high quality, akin to the aerospace cf's. Then there is plywood, that is generally what these car companies produce when talking about cf. People pay top dollar because they are misinformed. Would you pay oak prices for plywood?

i'm down with the plywood...:D

I take my hat off to you CreativeCompact.

You might just've saved quite a few people alot of money and alot of misery by taking the time to take those pictures and post them up here. The lack of response from ED on this thread says it all!! Their silence is deafening!! Here's hoping the b'stards never sell another piece of cf again if that's the quality. Sorry that you had to find out how bad they were first hand.

Also sorry that instead of the thanks you deserve from fellow forum members for highlighting the issue, you've had to put up with such an incredible amount of ignorant responses on the thread!

I don't know how you've managed to give such calm and measured responses to stupid post after stupid post about "too much cf", don't like the cf with the red", "are you gonna paint it", "looks unfinished" :mad:

C'mon, he stated right from the start, over and over, it's a test fit, it's unfinished, it WILL be painted. He was drawing attention to the fit, he said ignore the finish!
So nearly every reply turns into someones opinion of the finish :confused:
If you're gonna reply at least have the decency to read the man's posts first :confused:

Best of luck to you CC, hope you get it sorted and thanks for the heads up about ED.

CC nice work with the couger.. im sure the rx8 is in good hands with you i cant wait to see whats in store for the future of that 8!!!

yeah there sema car looks like shit.. the colors are terrible but they have a well know rx7 same type of cf body kit all around w/ blue looks badass. ya just need to know how to do it right..

i think it looks great except for the exhaust canister sticking out in the back but still props to u :D and yah still wondering... wat color are u painting ur car??? wat other mods are you plannin next?

yeah there sema car looks like shit.. the colors are terrible but they have a well know rx7 same type of cf body kit all around w/ blue looks badass. ya just need to know how to do it right..

You obviously have not seen Noel's car in person up close... gaps too. It bounces a lot when it's on the freeway. Looks cool from a distance, but as you get closer, it makes you wonder...

still nothing from ED

that sucks

Car looks like a Russian police car. Too bad it can't be glued together into a tilt front end

Next time a product doesn't fit, You can rest assured I will NOT post on these forums...

Next time a product doesn't fit, You can rest assured I will NOT post on these forums...

Why not?

If you're taking the few critics immature way of telling you they aren't fond of how your car looks, understand that they are probably young and, well, immature. Don't take it to heart.

Most of us are interested in your project. I, for one, was looking into the Carbon Creations parts, and am glad you spoke up.

dude, where you install these in San Francisco? you mind telling me the name of the body shop? and Erebuni is a crap company, it's been known for their ugly copy cat replica, they're good at stealing other car's kit and put it on another car, like a evo looking front end on a mazda 3, and those X man kit they're selling.........sigh, shit quality. if i'm mazda i'll ask them pay at attorney for making it's car look ugly.
i'm sorry but i'll have to say your car looks very funny the way it is, i don't care about what color...................you'll never see this type of stuff in the japanese industry, and this is why they are still leading us....

doesn't really surprise me... at the last hot import nights i went to I don't think i saw a single CF body panel out of the 1000's i saw that fit right

I for one read these posts day after day and sit back in amazement......99.9 percent of the people that post on this site (negatively) probably are still waiting for mommy to buy them this car for their sixteenth birthday-The guy that is building this car has an obvious wealth of knowledge that greater excedes anything 99.9 percent of us have.....Besides the point he is already in the top of the car scene....he doesn't need someone who can't even afford groceries telling him that his "carbon fiber kit doesn't go with red".....you asked him to prove that he has cars that were among the nations best...HE DID!!!! Anyone who knows anything about body work knows that if theis guy even had the know how to find somone that would even begin to try to fix the problem with the first pics....he obviously has contacts.....Anyway!!!!everyone on here needs to climb down off their horse and try to be a little more positive to the people that are trying to save the people money that could afford this kit......if all you can afford is a replica kit....buy one!!!!!Don't sit around bo-hooing about it!!!!

IN CLOSING I WOULD LIKE TO STATE THAT IF AT ANYTIME I HURT SOMEONES FEELINGS......IM SORRY....

momo
I agree with what you say
you make some very good points

you are so right

However, this forum is full of all sorts of people
its too bad most of them are rude

I agree with the idea the Momo is trying to convey, that is, CC didn't come here to hear criticism of his cars appearance, but rather to warn others about possible failings in quality from this company. Which is a noble thing to do.

However, I fail to see how peoples financial status and age somehow make their opinions moot as momo would suggest. It seems to me just a rediculous and immature as all the 'hey man it looks gay with the red and black' comments.

i am glad he posted and cannot wait to see the car when its done. I was looking into the trunk and hood but i think i am going to sending an email to them and tell them, pending their decision about what they want to do to correct this , they may have lost a customer.
In fact, we should all email them and tell them that. Tell them that if they are not going to stand behind thier product them we will let the entire automotive community on the internet know what poor fitment and customer service was recieved when buy from them. It wouldnt be hard if everyone here posted this in the other forums they frequent. Before long, they have 100s of thousands of auto enthusiasts seeing this and seeing the poor fitment.
Maybe then they will get off their ass and do something to make this right.

Thanks for posting this and making us all aware.
I cannot wait to see the finished product

doesn't really surprise me... at the last hot import nights i went to I don't think i saw a single CF body panel out of the 1000's i saw that fit right

actually irwins car , (he owns carisma autotech) his CF hood on his 8 is pretty much flawless..

pics look much better..i can still see many fitment issues but much better than before...other than that, i would match paint the rest of the kit...it just looks a little weird to me...and i thought i had a lot of CF...

Car is back in VA... Rear bumper is not able to be fixed and the overall quality of the carbon is not good in my eyes... I will see what I can do about the situation as soon as I get work caught back up

I dont think it looks that bad. Espicially if your going to get it painted. Im glad that you were able to get most of it fixed.

krazy long thread already hahaha sheesh

I've never seen a carbon fiber kit fit properly.

I always see them warp and fade too.

I've never seen a carbon fiber kit fit properly.

I always see them warp and fade too.

Fading is because lack of clear coat... Working with BASF to get over some clear for the time being until we decide how to tackle the paint on the car...

Bumper held up to 127mph real well...

Chargeback has been filed

sorry for the bad luck. thanks for the post. i was just looking into ED and was seriously considering exactly what you have done. i know now to avoid ED products.

the repair pics seemed like the parts fit better. what was the total cost with repair? are you planning on keeping the cf? if so, i think ED should foot the bill for the repair. i suggest seeking legal advice.

good luck with this situation, CC.

I talked to Stephanie (SpicyMSP) at Extreme Dimensions.. and she said that you can contact her directly and she will help you with this issue. She was the person posting info about their products before... but now that she's moved into a different dept. she doesn't have as much time to keep posting online here.. thus part of the reason ED is no longer a vendor on this board.

Hope things work out.

dam… the fitment is terrible :mad: :mad:
I bought ED’s urethane kit and haven’t had time to fit them yet… I noticed few days ago that they are not listed as a vendor any more… This makes me really nervous….
Anyone here w/ Extreme dimension’s urethane kit? If so, how’s the fitment?

Hi e46328, have you gotten your urethane kit yet?

I was just looking at ED's urethane MS style full rear bumper. I like the MS rear bumper, but dont like to cut off the original. So this would be a good choice.

Could you please drop a note here or PM me your experience with the kit.

Thanks

I personally saw the Rear bumper in person, and took the pictures that are on this site. The material was very flexible, and looks good... without the hesitation of cutting the stock rear. I have no idea about the fitment... because it's an aftermarket part, fitment could be really bad, or good. Depending on your body shop, it should fit fine anyhows.

Hi e46328, have you gotten your urethane kit yet?

I was just looking at ED's urethane MS style full rear bumper. I like the MS rear bumper, but dont like to cut off the original. So this would be a good choice.

Could you please drop a note here or PM me your experience with the kit.

Thanks

Hello,
I received the kit while ago but haven't fitted them yet. My friend who was going to fit them for me is out of town for 2 weeks :mad:
I will let you know when they are fitted.

Hello,
I received the kit while ago but haven't fitted them yet. My friend who was going to fit them for me is out of town for 2 weeks :mad:
I will let you know when they are fitted.

cheers man!

would appreciate your feedback!

Thanks!

no doubt

has anyone had a good experience with ED

not me

wowza, good luck with this situation. Quality parts should fit without modification...

I went to local bodyshop to have my urethane kit fitted and found out that my right side skirt is about ½ inch shorter than my left one… Now, I want to return the whole kit and buy the OEM..
BTW, my kit is by Extreme Dimension but bought them from http://creativeautoonline.com

are you sure its actually from extreme dimensions? BTW that site looks like crap.

i AM SO GLAD i READ THIS POST...a GIANT RELIEF. i WAS THINKING OF THE CARBON FIBRE KIT FOR ME.BUT AFTER READING THIS NO WAY!!!!!!

I have the ED Veilside replica... Don´t know how much work it is with other kits since I have no experience with installing any before this. However.... I think its ok. Have to do some smaller modifications and cutting to it, bot not more than I can handle.

Can you please repost some pics???
I want to see like mad your car but the pics are down..Please post some.

i think this guy had his car at sema and it was in modified mag also

How ironic that he would be complaining about Carbon Creations stuff for so long, and in Modified he's giving them all the praise. What's the real deal here?

maybe thats why you buy the speed kit....

Bad experience here too! I was given the runaround for over a week before having to pay an extra 800 dollars to get what i ordered. Id never praise them due to that even if they offered to pay for everything

man that totally sucks, hope your future plans for the car will turn out good as the fitment seems to look pretty good now, just need a clearcoat and a body or body and cf part repaint but thanks for letting everyone here know about your experience with CC and their products. they've had a bad reputation for along time anyway.

isnt there another company that makes cf products for our car?

i buyed a kit too in carbon from

I buyed a kit too from ED an the hood fits perfect but the front bumper daamn..a lot of fitment en replacement work...sucks...

I think i just threw up in my mouth a lil after seeing those pics, poor car.

i have a carbon kit too..and at the moment i did the hood and the front bumper..the hood was pretty perfect..but the front bump..damn thats another story....

uh... i can't understand...wut is you be saying dawg.

*bows head in shame*

I sold ED kits a while back when I worked at a body kit retail store. I apologize for selling them.

For their quality, it was strange. Sometimes they fit like a glove and sometimes they didn't.

You get what you pay for. lolz.

The carbon kits from ED are not cheap. so, you don't get what you pay for. you get alot less.

So how much weight did you lose after the CF installed?

I never gave ED any praise in the ad... however if you look at the pics, it shows how bad the stuff fits

i can't see any pics.. i want to see badly!

See 2cond page mate

I read this thread the day it started and recently had to purchase a rear urethane bumper from them. I needed a rear in a very short time and no one else had one they could get me quickly except for ED. It was urethane and i have to say, i was nervous. But, it fit very well. i spent maybe 30 minutes putting it on. The urethane was a bit thick on the sides were the mounting tabs were, but i sanded on them for a minute and it fit well. perfect line around the taillights and trunk line.

Now, my boss just got the rear lip for the 350Z in c/f, so that may be another whole issue in itself, ill let you all know how that goes.

ok well heres my $.02
the argument could be made that this kit being completely carbon fiber is a race spec kit and that perfect fitment is not a issue, they feel function over form hence the dry carbon evo from HKS or the C-west dry carbon kit for the s2k that kit is over $20k and if you look it is warbly looking and gaps aren't even etc . now completely not fiting thats a different story. my friend has cf fenders on his FD and they had to be modified. most CF body panels do not fit completely nice from what i've seen. i've seen cf fenders on a focus need to be modified as well. so maybe thats the story but on the consumers side. if this is a race only application than it should properly labeled. DD should step up and make this right one way or another weather it be a partial refund with keeping product or full refund with return. or they could use your car to redesign the kit and give it to you or something like that

i dunno just a thought